Threatening and Abusive Neighbour: What to Do

Lhammer07 on 14/03/2016 - 15:26

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to report story on one of the neighbours threatening and abusive behaviour which has left my family terrified. Police is not able to do anything about the issue as they need proof. Just wanted your thoughts on this situation if you could comment:

It started when my wife and i moved into our property 3 years ago. There are 5 properties (free standing houses) on cul-de-sac and there are 2 visitor car parks. Driveway is common to those 5 properties. Problem started when one of the neighbours had a drug raid conducted by AFP. Next day when i was leaving my property for work(used to catch bus which is about 200 m from my place), this neighbour (whose property had been raided) confronted me and started racially abusing me and threatening me out of the blue. While speaking, it did seem he was under alcohol/drug influence. I avoided him and just went to catch the bus. Few months later, he then started terrorizing my friends/family when they used to park their car in that visitor carspot. This neighbor went really crazy and started racially abusing and threatening them and me. I asked all my friends/family to make sure they dont park the car in that visitor car park to avoid confrontation. In Oct 2015, this neighbour had a dispute with his brother who is the owner of the property and was asked to leave the property. While taking his belongings, he smashed my car’s (which was parked in 2nd visitor spot: I had two cars) passenger side window and left the scene. I rushed out and did see him leaving in his car however since there was no witness, when i called police, they did not investigate the matter further.

Since then i have installed video surveillance camera (1 in front). That neighbour has returned back to live with his brother since last 2 months and now saga of terrorizing, threatening and racially abusing has started again.

Just this morning i went to drop my daughter to childcare which is 200 m away. Once i dropped her, my mother and i were approaching this cul-de-sac when this freak rammed his car from main road into (about 2 mts away from us) at a speed of about 35-40kms/hr. Due to such high speed, that survelliance was not recorded in the camera so unfortunately i do not have proof however i have still reported to police who are yet to visit me.

It is getting very annoying and to be honest i do not feel any safer and am very concerned for my family. What are my options? I am thinking of installing few more camera’s at the front however am open to suggestions from oz community to see what else could be done to keep this freak away from us?

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Comments

  • nocure on 14/03/2016 - 15:28
    -1

    Why can't we all just get along.

  • Clear on 14/03/2016 - 15:32
    +9

    Problem started when one of the neighbours had a drug raid conducted by AFP.

    Don't need to read any further to know that you're in the wrong neighbourhood. You normally have to deal with it or move away. Some people can't be changed.

  • CyberMurning on 14/03/2016 - 15:38
    -2

    get the two groups that fight in melbourne cbd last saturday night to come over to drink to your place and then intro them to your neighbour as your best mates.
    problem solved

  • danield on 14/03/2016 - 15:44
    +6

    Always see this come up as a solution, I can be the first to suggest it this time…

    bikies

    • gomertose on 14/03/2016 - 20:28

      That won't work.

      The bikies are like in cahoots with this guy given his drug raid.

      • Euphemistic on 15/03/2016 - 16:03
        +2

        Need the other bikies then.

        • c0balt on 16/03/2016 - 16:55
          +1

          Bikies - The solution to all of life's problems, including other bikies.

  • [Deactivated] on 14/03/2016 - 15:58
    +2

    I'm surprised you've last this long with kids, if it's just you and your partner I would have thought to suggest something, but if you have a little one around, their safety should have you reconsider.

    • imcjb on 14/03/2016 - 16:07
      -4

      "Just this morning i went to drop my daughter to childcare which is 200 m away. Once i dropped her…."

      You think the safety of the kids is paramount? Dropping kids, sheesh…..

      sarcasm

  • dogboy on 14/03/2016 - 16:08
    +8

    Just call the cops and say you think they are making/distributing drugs at their house. A few more raids can't hurt.

    • EmCKay on 16/03/2016 - 16:27

      And that armed robbery happening around the corner? Sorry coppers can't attend. Too busy following false leads.

      • t_c on 16/03/2016 - 16:46
        +1

        Don't you mean too busy manning the radar guns?

  • SnoozeAndLose on 14/03/2016 - 16:14
    +6

    I would suggest you move, this is the best for yourself and your family, understand that sometime is hard to make the decision on moving.

    But your family should be put in priority accept you can be there 24/7 to take care them.

    • pointless martyr on 14/03/2016 - 17:44
      +3

      This.

      Move.

      These are the kind of people end up on the 6pm news for any of all the worst things you can imagaine.

      Dont wait until a triple homicide or lab explosion forces your hand.

      Youll be happier in a smaller place in a nicer postcode

  • decryption on 14/03/2016 - 16:22
    +2

    Get more cameras (high quality ones), to record the incidents. If the police want proof, give it to them.
    Otherwise, move house before your kid starts school and settles in there. Life is too short to have it ruined by shit neighbours.

    • DARK KHAOS on 15/03/2016 - 11:35

      Yes unfortunately white trash bogans will always take the racist approach.
      The more you retaliate the more you will suffer as they have nothing to lose.

      Sorry

  • dins on 14/03/2016 - 17:03

    Sorry to hear. Do you own the place or renting? My advice would be to move out asap for your family's sake. Clearly the guy is not all that well up stairs. Get out before something really serious happens. No amount of cameras and security gear going to help when dealing with idiots like that.

  • Ughhh on 14/03/2016 - 17:43

    Unless the police is able to put everyone in that house and their friends in jail, the only thing you can do is flight rather than fight. If that crazy head goes to jail, whats the chance of his brother/friends won't mess with you for revenge? They have nothing to lose, but you have a lot to lose. Life's too short to live in fear 24/7.

    • kima on 15/03/2016 - 09:18
      +1

      AVO's will do nothing except provoke them and it will get worse. Police still won't do anything. Sounds good in theory but doesn't work in reality. They are not going to issue an order to remain a large distance away because he lives there, so if they give a 2 meters, unless he physically hits you (which is a crime anyway) then they still won't take it seriously.

  • hammer07 on 14/03/2016 - 18:45
    +2

    Police just came few hours ago and they have suggested i take APVO against him by visiting the court. Problem is i dont know that freak's name. I will contact police and see if i can obtain the name.

    I own the place and it is relatively nice suburb with the exception of this f***. He is an unemployed druggie remaining confined within his brother's home for most of the time. When he gets out, thats when he creates all the troubles.

    Will install another camera(about 2 more) soon.

    • kipps on 14/03/2016 - 20:26
      +1

      You can buy a title search of the property and that will get you the owner's name. If he's renting then often times writing to the owner and telling the owner what is going on will yield an eviction. If he's the owner then that will get you the guy's name….

      • Limitless on 14/03/2016 - 20:58

        It is his brothers house

      • hammer07 on 15/03/2016 - 15:28

        I have just done title search and it seems that owner is not that brother. Looks like owner is in correctional services (checked out second schedule in title search and it was in one of the notifications). I had a look at one of property reports and tenant is listed under the property. So most probably looks like he and his brother are tenants.

        My question to you guys if you are aware is how can i confirm above facts? Also for AVO, i will need to know the name of person. How can i obtain the name since his brother is not going to provide name?

        Thanks for all your help so far.

        • DARK KHAOS on 15/03/2016 - 15:32

          The website below will show previous rental history so you will have the agency to make a complaint and the tenant's details.

          http://www.onthehouse.com.au/

        • hammer07 on 15/03/2016 - 15:35

          @shane_au:

          Thanks. No rental history found for that property.

          Does any one know how i can find out the name of that person?

        • Ughhh on 15/03/2016 - 17:36
          +2

          Go through their mailbox.

  • gummibear on 14/03/2016 - 19:23

    Maybe some dashcams front and back also for future car incidents.

  • Flowerbomb on 14/03/2016 - 20:07

    Does he deal in drugs or have a large possession of some? Maybe you could call the police and DOB him in. Such scum.

  • Marcsie on 14/03/2016 - 20:24

    Just pack and move,problem solved !

    • Limitless on 14/03/2016 - 20:59

      Then the issue becomes someone else's problem

  • Dont Care on 14/03/2016 - 21:13
    -2

    Call A Current Affair

  • PVA on 14/03/2016 - 21:15
    +1

    it may be a pain to do but I suggest move. no other option you do will sort things nicely, going to police wont stop him.
    maybe chat with the brother that kicked him out may help calm things down.

    • hammer07 on 14/03/2016 - 22:26

      that f*** is such a pussy. Whenever he does something like this, he remains confined within house for about a week or so.
      I am not worried about myself but I care for my family and hence weighting options of what to do next. Moving out (selling)!and renting is the least preferred option since we selected this suburb due to good primary school.

      I ll try doing title search for that freak's property however it seems his borther has purchased this property. Chatting with brother is of no use since he seem to be protecting him. When I asked him name of his brother, he bluffed and said one of godfather's (movie) character name .such a (profanity) up family.

      My next door neighbour also complained to me once about being that freak driving recklessly when the neighbour and his son were on their property.

      • PVA on 14/03/2016 - 23:07
        +2

        I understand, but i'm not saying move suburbs, a street away would even be better wouldnt it?
        I know, ideally, the prick should be the one going/getting charged/whatever but in reality it is going to be a pain in the butt for you, not nice for the whole family.
        For your sanity and safety move somewhere else, or at least start looking and consider the idea.

        Or maybe try to be his mate (fake it) and give him a beer when its hot or something like that, might make him calm down knowing you're a mate .. maybe.

        • Ughhh on 15/03/2016 - 06:15

          Or maybe try to be his mate (fake it) and give him a beer when its hot or something like that, might make him calm down knowing you're a mate .. maybe.

          And next time you have a problem with someone else, you can use him as the "bikie" solution!

  • kima on 15/03/2016 - 10:00

    I know it sucks but look at moving because its the best choice, its not worth wasting more of your time near them, its going to stress you more, cost you money and the police and courts don't care so if you want to try that option its going to be a long battle. Its just not worth putting your family through it.

  • woodwa on 15/03/2016 - 14:14
    +1

    Rent your house out and live elsewhere…

    Its probably not worth your effort.. and maybe your new tenants can take the battle on!

  • Tomato on 15/03/2016 - 15:58
    -1

    Sorry to hear about your predicament. I feel for you and your family. Maybe that guy had bipolar disorder? I had encounter my very first tenant who had bipolar disorder and it's a nightmare for me. I did not know about it until the day he moved out, his friend told me about his condition. But he had already damaged my place, broke the kitchen sink tap and showerhead into half. All door and window locks were sticky from spraying of excessive lubricant. And more… He refused to leave until I had a chat with my ex-colleague who is sort of a bikie and he offered to pay him a visit. It worked. I think that guy is bullying me since I am smaller and not fierce enough. One day I was there talking to my female neighbour and he decided to come ranting, my neighbour 'barked' at him and he was actually scared and ran back into the house. So I am lucky with some help, managed to make him leave.
    In your case, that guy might also be bullying you since you are not reacting and appear to be 'weaker'. But like some suggested, best to leave if you can't put up with him since his brother cant do much about his behaviour. Renting out the house as suggested is also a good idea, but maybe rent to big guys (if any) who might be more able to deal with that guy.
    Good luck!

  • GameChanger on 16/03/2016 - 15:27

    Tell him you love him and forgive him.

    Nothing love can't over come.

    • DARK KHAOS on 16/03/2016 - 15:33

      Could be worth a shot.
      Shouldn't be hard to find out what he drinks as there is bound to be beer cans in his yard.
      Then head over there late Saturday morning to give it to him.
      Have a few and try to sort it out.

      • DARK KHAOS on 16/03/2016 - 15:35
        +1

        Oh and don't tell him you love him because he might think you are trying to get him tanked to take advantage of him.

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