Can't Get Rid of Squatter

Lmrluke on 05/07/2016 - 01:16

So this drug addict in an unregisted car with no number plates, a totally flat tyre and car that does not start, somehow rolled it into my apartment complex carpark and has put it in the corner and is living out of it. He is littering everywhere, just loitering around and sleeping in the car, right outside my apartment. I feel very uncomfortable about this and I am worried for my safety, the safety of my belongings in my house and also my vehicle. I called the cops and they say they will not do anything, he is not breaking any laws, the carpark is council property and he can stay there as long as he wants!

How do I get rid of this scumbag?

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Comments

        • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2016 - 14:06
          +4

          @sirlothie:

          Why suffer from discipline and hardwork where you can just rewind in drug induced pleasure while people sympathise with you and give you the moral priviledge of victimhood.

        • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 15:55

          @lolbbq:

          Exactly, and not have people turn their nose up at you because you wear nice clothes and have nice things you worked hard for…

        • mskeggs on 06/07/2016 - 18:40
          +5

          @sirlothie:
          Anybody calling you rich scum will get short shrift from me too.
          I'm sympathetic to your plight. I think the cops should ensure the person trespassing on your shared property should be removed, and I can't understand why the police haven't acted more authoritatively.
          But there has been a bunch of name calling and nastiness that isn't doing anything to resolve the problem, not to mention various suggestions to use violence or destroy this guys stuff.

          By all means slip into drug induced pleasure or retire onto the sweet $263 a week on the dole if it makes you feel better, but making up some story that people are victimising you for being a worker are nonsense, and posts suggesting a sympathetic response to a bloke living in a car aren't valid are at best uncharitable.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 12:55
          -2

          @sirlothie: Thank you for revealing all of your opinions are based on ignorance.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 16:56
          +1

          @sirlothie:

          Shit if the dole is 600 a week. I quit my job. Sogn me up

        • goodcopbadcop on 08/07/2016 - 22:53
          +1

          @sirlothie: It is $527.60 a fortnight. And there are no restrictions on how you spend it. It is meant to only be for surviving - not living it up with expensive habbits.

        • simonjb on 08/07/2016 - 23:08
          +3

          @Skramit: That is absolutely bs. Long term homelessness is almost always a result of mental illness.

        • mrluke on 08/07/2016 - 23:48
          -1

          @goodcopbadcop:

          You get 600 if you claim all the additions like rent assistance.

        • mrluke on 08/07/2016 - 23:49
          -1

          @woolfenstein:

          OK I wrote week instead of fortnight. Shoot me.

  • Timfoo on 06/07/2016 - 06:40
    +2

    Skulldrag this junkies car onto the main road

  • CLoSeR on 06/07/2016 - 08:12

    I'm confused, is it private property or council land? Seems to be conflicting comments from OP.

    • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 10:26
      +1

      Cops said its council land, council said its private property. I'm leaning with private property and lazy cops.

  • jimmej on 06/07/2016 - 09:29
    -1

    Make him breakfast everyday. He is not going to steal from you then. He is then probably more likely to protect your house.

    No body wants to be a drug addict living from their car…

    • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 10:27
      +11

      Lol yeah no worries. Maybe I should give him my house and I'll sleep in the car?

      • jimmej on 06/07/2016 - 10:34
        +3

        I'm sure he'd appreciate that.

        It's a sucky position to be in for you. I am just suggesting that there are ways to acknowledge the sucky position for the person living from their car. He is a human too, just trying to survive with where his life is at.

        • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 10:41
          +4

          There is a salvos crisis accommodation center right in the middle of town so if he lifted a finger and asked 1 person for advice he would be directed straight there and be sleeping in a bed tonight. You can't help those who don't want to be helped. He's probably burnt his bridges.

  • TailsK on 06/07/2016 - 09:31

    The car is on private property. Get the body corp to tow the car? It'll cost, but if it's not meant to be there, it should be removed.

  • Tuukmaak on 06/07/2016 - 10:23

    Hey surely it's pretty clear what the police's obligation is? If there is any uncertainty I suggest speaking to a senior officer (sergeant or whatever) and clarifying the situation. In such welfare cases, they have an obligation to make a referral to a welfare service to provide outreach services to this guy. The worst that can happen is that you have more witnesses to call on when you lodge a Personal Safety Intervention Order.https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/find-legal-answers/personal-safety-intervention-orders

    So to recap:

    1. Hopefully sergeant will ensure he's moved on
    2. Maybe the outreach service can help this guy to move on.(You can call Community Connections Program directly on +61 3 5970 2000)
    3. If you have property damage get a Personal Safety Intervention Order

    All the best

    • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 12:11
      +1

      Police are so lazy if they dropped a pen they would not pick it up, they would just order a new one. They only act when they really have to.

      • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2016 - 13:08

        Did you try posting on the victoria police facebook page?

        • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 13:20

          Pissing off cops is not a good career move lol.

        • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2016 - 14:37
          +1

          @sirlothie: I meant a polite post explaining the situation and asking for their assistance.

      • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2016 - 14:46
        +4

        spend a day with a scanner going and you hear the bs they have to put up with every day and you will understand why some are pissed.. and most never signed up for half the crap they get called too

        • mangoss on 06/07/2016 - 20:27
          +2

          Thank you. This entitled individual has absolutely NO idea.

        • ninetyNineCents on 08/07/2016 - 16:33
          -1

          Bullshit alarm, pretty sure police nowadays don't use unencrypted radios…you have been watching to much to…

        • [Deactivated] on 08/07/2016 - 18:38
          +2

          @ninetyNineCents:

          they do in country victoria

          call bullshit with no facts and then say "pretty sure" yeah m8 suggest u download how to internet package from amazon

        • ninetyNineCents on 08/07/2016 - 22:45
          -1

          @storyteller:

          Yeh thats really a honest complete & accurate snapshot of Australian police.

      • mangoss on 06/07/2016 - 20:26
        +17

        Police are not lazy. You evidently have zero idea of how frigging busy they are, and that they have to TRIAGE responses - the most serious / dangerous / violent take priority. This guy has NOT threatened you, HAS not harmed you, and I've read no specific evidence of drug usage - you haven't mentioned syringes or similar, you only mentioned litter. This might shock you, but there are people out there who've been assaulted and hurt, robbed or threatened - and these vics take priority.

        Try working 18 hour days without lunch breaks, having people assault you and spit on you and your colleagues, rescuing DV victims from offenders only to have them go back repeatedly, charging recidivist criminals only to see magistrates repeatedly release them on bail….and do that each day, every day for 14 years, battling PTSD and violent crime scenes that stay ingrained in your memory even whilst you continue to try to help people… only to come on Ozbargain and watch someone whinge that someone who is not directly harming them is not receiving priority response!! And has the balls to call you LAZY?!!!!!! Do you know we work overtime without pay to comfort victims? Do you know we pick up, feed and drive underprivileged kids to school when their parents can't afford to, and take them to the PCYC to keep them engaged in the community safely? Do you bloody realise how many of us go above and beyond and went into this job because we give a shit?!

        Mate, take a look at yourself. If your biggest problem is worrying about a homeless man who hasn't hurt anyone, you have serious issues.

        PS - For the record, we have shitty resources due to stretched budgets - there have been weeks we haven't had soap in the ladies bathrooms. We bring in our own. For you to suggest we can even just 'order' basic items when we need them because we are LAZY is indicative of your complete and utter selfishness and ignorance.

        • Forfiet on 07/07/2016 - 19:53

          "There are plenty of services available to help people in this situation. He says sorry my car has broken down and proceeds to throw garbage and syringes everywhere and linger in my carpark indefinitely. He is not a nice guy." He actually did mention syringes….if its true or not that's a different matter!

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 20:10
          +2

          Fining people for driving 4kmph above the speed limit falls under which category? Serious, violent or dangerous?

        • pufffdragon on 07/07/2016 - 20:19
          +3

          All respect to what you do, but what would you do in this situation, especially being a police officer? I highly doubt you would allow someone park their car just meters away from your house and live there comfortably.

          You point out to the OP to look at himself and tell him he has serious issues worrying about a homeless man, but I would bet all my money if it was you, you would have moved him and his car the day he arrived. I guarantee it.

        • congo on 08/07/2016 - 00:10

          I am sure most cops are helpful and respectful.
          But for me they haven't been of much help unfortunately.

        • mangoss on 08/07/2016 - 00:20
          +7

          @pufffdragon: Despite your preface, I didn't detect a whole lot of respect in your response sadly, only incorrect supposition.

          I you can bet all your money mate - but you'd lose it. I live in Kings Cross in Sydney for the last 15 years!! Junkie, mental health issues and alcoholics central. I also don't have the power to move anyone on about a personal matter relating to myself. So as not to engage in conflict of interest I'd report it to my manager but we have strict compliance and anti-corruption measures to ensure distance when we do become vics. How much of a vic the OP is compared to others in serious violent situations is the issue.

          lHere's an example: two weeks ago I was walking my little Maltese dog past the KX train station. Some junkie female decided to charge him and kick him in the stomach so hard he did a 180 and screamed. He's my baby, and I panicked and ran to KX station. Got no preferential treatment, waited, submitted an event like everyone else over the counter, and whilst they did a patrol to look for the POI as she had been reported aggressive to others in the area, they couldn't find her. I'm still waiting on CCTV to be pulled so she can be ID'd and charged under the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act. Weeks later, I'm still waiting.

          No response yet. I can ring them up and hassle them, but having worked in several level one commands, I know how frigging incredibly non-stop busy the OIC is - e.g. tonight there were several violent assaults, robberies, a fire in a shopping complex and a plethora of other offences. As much as I love my dog, I have to accept it is simply not an significant operational priority and they will get to it when they can. Triaging seems unfair and frustrating sometimes to outsiders, but you see the other side and have the perspective of actually seeing how goddamned busy Police are to understand that we can't respond immediately to everything.

          I actually think the OP has a valid point in relation to the POI being moved on from private property - but am very suspicious about the later-posted syringes comment (it would suggest drug possession, a charge in itself, which when reactivity allowed should be followed up). I also agree there are some pricks in the job - I've encountered them on a daily basis myself. What I have a SERIOUS problem with is a) him not understanding that it may not be an operational priority due to a lack of specific offence and other more violent, serious offences taking priority; and b) calling us lazy when we work our friggin arses off, day and night, and c) suggesting we are so entitled we can get whatever resources we want, even 'pens' as we're so "lazy" we drop one and don't bother picking it up. OP can do a day in our job, then he might see the light.

          So in summary mate, no, you can't guarantee how I'd act.You lack information about both my humanistic and ethical obligations, about our reporting structure and triaging system. I don't begrudge you this - outsiders just don't get it because they don't see it first hand. Just try to be a little more open minded x

        • mangoss on 08/07/2016 - 00:26
          +1

          @Forfiet: The OP was forcefully putting his case forward in the original post, yet only mentioned litter - not syringes. Suddenly it became 'syringes' in a later post. People generally are specific when it comes to witnessing drug paraphernalia if they are making a strong case to have a POI moved on.

          Also, despite the prevalence of these dangerous 'syringes' everywhere, the OP has approached the POI he's described as a junkie scumbag several times?!!

          Heard a few 'embellished' stories in my time, and forgive me for being a little suspicious…

        • mangoss on 08/07/2016 - 00:35
          +4

          @ms: Witness a multiple pile up, head on collision crash. Watch people burning to death in their cars, or breaking them necks as they are plowed into by a speeding driver and then decide for yourself if it's serious, violent or dangerous. Do you realise how far a car can travel in five seconds whilst speeding? And it's usually not just 4km - the radar picks up a wide variety of high range speeds. Speeds that could kill you or your family or friends if we just let them all slide. A 4km speed over the limit could easily kill a child suddenly crossing the road.

          We are not the enemy…seriously! We try to keep people alive and safe. It's genuinely not about revenue raising - we don't see dollar one of it, and we don't ever get pushed to increase infringement notices to raise revenue. The point of these operations is to raise awareness of the dangers, get people to slow down, and decrease the crime rate. If you get a ticket for speeding, maybe you will think twice next time - and it could save your life :)

        • mangoss on 08/07/2016 - 00:42

          @congngo: Thank you for your comment :)

          I'm sorry you haven't experienced much help. We are not a perfect system by any means - the competing priorities and pressures are enormous, and unfortunately we react to crime more than we should engage in proactivity - simply because they're aren't enough resources.We also have some people who engage in poor conduct, which reflects badly on the rest of us. It sucks working in an imperfect system - but please know that the majority are good and respectful, and if you encounter a disrespectful officer, report it to a superior officer. It's your absolute right to do so, and receive a response to your complaint.

          I hope your future interactions are more helpful x

        • Forfiet on 08/07/2016 - 01:03
          +1

          @mangoss: Like I said "if its true or not that's a different matter!" I just was re-iterating the fact it was mentioned at some point…. I also thought it could have been trumped up by either him or influenced by others, however I feel if it was the case of the "homeless" guy dumping drug paraphernalia then it should have been to influence the 'official' parties into taking action.

        • mangoss on 08/07/2016 - 01:31
          +1

          @Forfiet: Mate I was totally agreeing with you :) Sorry if it came off differently (that's why I didn't neg you). I sensed you also thought it might be trumped up a bit too as it wasn't originally mentioned by the OP (only in a later post), and yet this was key to his argument of criminal activity occurring.

          Problem with the law is drug possession is an offence, whilst drug usage is not…unless he's caught in possession he can't be charged with drug possession, even if littered syringes may suggest the high likelihood of use.

          If there genuinely are littered syringes indicating a drug possession hotspot, the cops need to patrol and report it as soon as they have the resources. Unfortunately, violent and serious crimes take priority, and there are so many of them :( 24/7,365. Never ends.

          The answer to issues like this is simply more police resources working together with mental health agencies, socioeconomic agencies, Juvenile Justice, Corrective Services, Legal Aid, etc - a collaborative approach is needed to solve a complex issue. Govt needs to pull together to make this happen, and stop running the cops on a shoestring budget.

          And the community need to realise more broadly that we don't actually make the laws - Govt does. We're just mandated to enforce them.

          Have a good night :)

        • Forfiet on 08/07/2016 - 06:40
          +1

          @mangoss: no probs :) After all, reading through these two threads you end up realising the different laws and protocols regarding the homeless and it's nature in regarding discrimination of their circumstances…. I apologise if I came off defensive to your replies :)

        • mangoss on 08/07/2016 - 07:49
          +2

          @Forfiet: No worries at all. I was homeless for a while as a teen due to DV at home, so am oversensitive to this issue. It's one of the reasons I went into this job - to help the vulnerable. Homelessness not as simple a situation as people like to make up, resources to help them are not enough and it breaks my heart to see someone living rough. But it's so much worse when entitled, safe and comfortable people like the OP paint them all as scum and dangerous with nil proof; and people comment on here about violent / aggressive ways to move on the POI. We're all bloody human - I worry society is rapidly forgetting that :(

        • pufffdragon on 08/07/2016 - 08:28

          @mangoss: Sorry if it sounded like I was coming across the wrong way but what im saying is, if you walked out the door in uniform, that would be enough for most people to get their arses moving.

          I've lived with two cops years ago, one being my brother and I fully understand the crap that comes with your job. The amount of idiocy you deal with on a daily basis is just mind bowing. I myself cant stand the general public and hate even just going to the supermarket and dealing with people.

          The stuff you guys do, see and put up with would blow most individuals away, if they only knew.

        • mangoss on 08/07/2016 - 08:40
          +1

          @pufffdragon: "You point out to the OP to look at himself and tell him he has serious issues worrying about a homeless man, but I would bet all my money if it was you, you would have moved him and his car the day he arrived. I guarantee it."

          You were coming across the wrong way mate, intentionally. But appreciate you somewhat owning up and acknowledging it.

          Not all of us are in uniform, e.g. Detectives.

        • wyrmy on 08/07/2016 - 11:57

          @mangoss: Genuinely curious since I never heard from an officer before, but where DOES the revenue go? We are talking about over 300 million a year in Victoria alone from just fixed speed and red light cameras and I think close to 100 million from mobile cameras. Death tolls don't seem to have drastically changed in the last 5 years and pedestrian deaths have gone up in some states. We don't have statistics showing number of non-fatal accidents and in cases where deaths have reduced it doesnt take into account massive improvements in car safety and design.

        • mangoss on 08/07/2016 - 15:14
          +2

          @wyrmy: Hey. I believe it goes to the govt treasury, where along with other revenue streams / taxes etc it is then distributed for state-level enterprises like health care, etc. Genuinely, we never see it unless it's redistributed through Treasury for operational necessities, but they make those decisions on allocation.

          Have a read of this: http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/statistics/fatalitytr… The implementation of state safety measures, speed cameras, RBT etc have drastically reduced fatalities. Agree that car safety and design also has drastically improved the rate.However, there are also more cars on the road than previous years, which can affect the stats.

          Just remember, we don't make the laws - Govt makes them. Govt decides that speed cameras are needed, red light cameras are needed etc. We are solely mandated to enforce them by law. If people have an issue with the law, best place to take it up is with your MP.

        • ankor on 08/07/2016 - 17:46
          -1

          @ms:

          Seriously violent to our bank accounts!?

        • goodcopbadcop on 08/07/2016 - 23:03

          We totally get that you are a jaded cop! Sounds like it's time not to give so much of a shit! Plenty go into the force cos they lap up the power and can speak down to people and get paid for it. How do you know that this guy, who has blatently disregarded that he is loitering on private property.

        • juventino on 09/07/2016 - 13:46
          -1

          @ms:
          the answer is all three. yup haha

  • WorldClassMiser on 06/07/2016 - 13:22

    Go to A Current Affair. It sounds like the sort of story they love doing. Never underestimate the power of television to stir authorities into doing something.

    • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 13:25

      Most people feel sorry for him, not me.

      • WorldClassMiser on 06/07/2016 - 13:37
        +15

        I doubt it. Here, I have even written the promo for them. "Drug addicts living only metres from terrified residents! Syringes discarded where children play! Authorities do nothing! A story no parent can afford to miss!"

  • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 13:30
    +6

    Update: spoke to my property manager, she rang the body corporate. Apparently quite a few tenants have complained so it's all been handballed to them.

    • Skramit on 06/07/2016 - 14:09

      It might take a few weeks but sounds like it'll get resolved if enough people complain.

    • foreveraloan on 06/07/2016 - 19:44

      i think that is the best way to handle it. ideally, get the body corporate to call the cops. complaint probably needs to come from them rather than tenants.

  • AMLagonda on 06/07/2016 - 13:32
    -2

    Not gonna read the comments , but for gods sake get the car towed away…

  • gimme on 06/07/2016 - 13:38
    +1

    Why would a private complex carpark be council property? It's owned by all residents of the complex (common property) and managed by Body Corporate.

    As a landlord your FIRST point of contact would be Strata Manager
    As a tenant it would be your Property Manager who would then contact Strata Manager.

    People unnecessarily overcomplicate their lives.

    • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 13:42
      +1

      It was just some prick cop giving me false information to try to make it someone else's problem.

      • ankor on 08/07/2016 - 17:47

        Hence the requirement to complain to his senior.

    • goodcopbadcop on 08/07/2016 - 23:06

      It's just gonna take for ever for them to get it towed. Essentially it will come out of Body Corp funds which are paid for by residents and unit owners.

  • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 13:45
    +2

    As far as cops are concerned he can stay as long as he wants, they don't care. He is not committing a crime they say. That's cool, my next holiday I won't worry about a caravan park, I'll just sleep in the beach carpark.

    • buckster on 06/07/2016 - 13:53
      +1

      But council will probably sting you because it's 'public property' =\

      • tonka on 06/07/2016 - 14:02
        +1

        As long as you can convince them you're homeless you should be fine. Don't do it with kids though or they'll be removed.

    • bassmaniac69 on 06/07/2016 - 17:22
      +2

      Maybe you should find a nice apartment block at your holiday destination, hire a car and park there for a week or two?? :)

  • WaterMark on 06/07/2016 - 13:58
    +2

    Is he Asian or Muslim? If so call Pauline Hanson.

    On a serious note I thought if the car was unregistered on council land then it can get red stickered and towed. Best of luck.

    • andyken on 07/07/2016 - 01:54

      and if he is black? donald trumph? and how about white? who to call?

  • tonka on 06/07/2016 - 14:11
    +1

    There is some sort of agreed policy that Police and Government types cannot hassle homeless people. So the cops and council aren't supposed to move them along if they know they are homeless.

    Make him want to move.
    Go see the guy, make out like your sympathetic and want to give him a heads up . Tell him you heard the Strata is sending someone the next day to crush and remove the car and offer to help him move the car out before they get there so he doesn't lose his stuff.

    • tonka on 06/07/2016 - 14:41
      +2

      Here's the NSW policy. You may need to look yours up if you're in another state.
      http://www.housing.nsw.gov.au/help-with-housing/homelessness…

    • godofpizza on 06/07/2016 - 15:06

      in saying that. in the Melbourne CBD there are folks who are sleeping in front of businesses on full size mattress. cdoesn't look like anything is being done about that.

      • tonka on 06/07/2016 - 15:15
        +2

        Have seen that in Sydney too in some of the pedestrian tunnels.
        A couple of the parks that are sheltered and out of sight have been turned into camping grounds with tents etc. I don't mind it, there is no solution to some homelessness and this seems a good compromise and maybe it offers enough stability that after a while they will be able to deal with coming indoors and some conformity. Keeps them safer, out of the way and easier for services to help them if they're staying put, also keeps them out of people's driveways.

  • gimme on 06/07/2016 - 14:21
    +2

    Yeah I'm sure junkies can be perfectly reasoned with but hey give it a shot.

    • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 12:30

      Was that a pun right there?

  • OzzyOzbourne on 06/07/2016 - 15:41
    -1

    Police will only consider doing something if he's actually committed a serious crime or is speeding. As his car is broken, best you can hope for is for someone to be robbed or attacked, then the police might think about doing something if they're not too busy catching commuters travelling to work.

    • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 15:58
      -1

      There's too many jay walkers and people crossing on the red man for them to do anything about this.

  • Ravensbane on 06/07/2016 - 16:41

    Personally get you and a few mates, take the hand break off and push the car out of the complex. If he tries anything restrain him only. Once the car is out good luck on him moving it back in. Or just call the cops and say he has been threatening etc. Am guessing there are likely children and women in the complex? Would do a hell of a lot to get a person like that away from my wife and kids, most of it not legal.

    • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 18:09
      +1

      Yeah there is kids here. Everyone I speak to around here is furious about it, most of them have called the cops or body corporate and got as far as I have. Some blood reckons if he is not home in 2 hours car will be in middle of road so see what happens. No one has gone and told him to piss off yet though… I'm not doing it cos I live closest to him.

      • ninetyNineCents on 08/07/2016 - 16:35

        Get a camera and film the police when they refuse to remove him.

        It's amazing how different people become when you film them and suggest posting that on YT…

  • Neptunesblood on 06/07/2016 - 17:49

    Show some compassion. Offer him a cup of coffe and a sandwich. Speak to him and find out what's going on. Glass houses?

    • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 18:03
      +8

      Why don't you come and do it? Glass houses how? I'm not a drug addict squatter.

      • jenkemjunkie on 07/07/2016 - 07:41

        Just make us a sammich mate cmon mate… and get us an ice cream too. With a flake in it! And a pack of durries…I might even give you a hit of my jenkem bottle

        Didn't you know bro…glasshouses for real

  • mskeggs on 06/07/2016 - 18:43
    +1

    Was there ever a squatter? Or is this just performance art from Andrew Nikolic now that he has lost his seat?

  • simonjb on 06/07/2016 - 19:37

    Haven't read all the posts here.
    There is absolutely no way that is council property. None.
    You don't own your car park either. Call your Body Corporate and file a complaint with the Manager/Landlord. Tell them there is an abandoned vehicle on the premises.
    They will remove the car if they are fair.
    To the police in this case you are just someone complaining about another persons behaviour. Nothing more.

    • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 19:46

      So you are saying private property is not protected? So I can just go jump in someone's backyard pool and have a swim no worries? I'm not breaking any laws by swimming.

      • simonjb on 06/07/2016 - 20:50
        +4

        Protected? I'm not sure what you mean. No council could care less about a car sitting on private property. Until the owner of the carpark (not you) contacts the police and informs them that they will be removing this car nothing will happen. To be honest you don't come across as someone that is very nice. If you asked me to help you with your attitude I would decline. I regret even telling you how to deal with the problem.

        • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 21:02

          Don't worry I paid no attention to it anyway.

        • simonjb on 06/07/2016 - 21:11
          +2

          @sirlothie: I own property in Frankston and Frankston South and Carrum Downs which is your area. I think I know where you are. I've been wanting all those cheap flats along Nepean hwy demolished for years. They are the blight of Frankston and holding it back as it nests the bad element of the area along with Frankston North.
          I'm sure you knew before you moved there that there would be trouble.

        • mrluke on 07/07/2016 - 07:45

          @simonjb:

          I don't live at the old Ambassador or Nepean Hwy but you are right it is a drug and crime den that should be demolished. You know there is a rule there that owners cannot live there, only tenants so it is a transient community.

        • lysp on 07/07/2016 - 12:02
          +1

          @sirlothie:
          @simonjb:

          There's a story on that here:

          http://www.domain.com.au/news/melbournes-cheapest-apartment-…

        • mrluke on 07/07/2016 - 15:32

          @lysp:

          Its truly frightening, I have to deliver there sometimes. You would swear its abandoned but people live there.

        • JIMB0 on 10/07/2016 - 10:01

          @simonjb: Piecing together all of the clues I'd say he lives in one of those blocks of flats between the railway line and the freeway.

  • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2016 - 21:01
    +2

    Invite the guy in for tea and biscuits and show him around, make him feel invited, tell him that the world owes him and that the government doesn't do enough for those who don't believe in the ideology of "work."

    • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 21:17
      +2

      If this guy had an ounce of self preservation instinct he would go straight to the hospital, get admitted to the mental health unit, he would stay there for 3 weeks, they would diagnose his mental condition, medicate him, give him the morphine or whatever he needs for his addictions, 3 square meals and a bed, he would not have to spend a cent for 3 weeks so he would have a grand in his pocket, they wouldn't let him leave without an address, he would probably come out with a DSP, support worker and clinician to reintegrate him into society. But he's an idiot spending all his money on drugs, scrounging for ciggie butts during the day, sleeping in a car in the dead of winter, surrounded by people who want him gone…

      • simonjb on 06/07/2016 - 21:26
        -3

        Want him gone but are too weak and frightened to do anything about it themselves.

        • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 21:30
          +18

          Come on down you hero.

        • simonjb on 08/07/2016 - 12:56
          +3

          @sirlothie:

          He's a homeless person with a mental illness not a violent criminal, I wouldn't call helping him roll his car out of a driveway an act of heroism, I'd consider it compassionate.

  • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2016 - 22:13
    +13

    Hi all I am the squatter.
    I decided to come out now because liberal probs lost the elec.. More welfare!!

    Everyone be nice to me !!
    I used your computer, slithero, to type this!
    Nice house.
    Btw you should shower once a year like me to conserve Water.
    Ps haters are my motivators

  • mrluke on 06/07/2016 - 23:48
    +4

    I just had a good old chat to our friend Mr Squatter. Seems to me he is a paranoid schizophrenic, diagnosed or not I'm not sure. He tells me his father is an ex IRA hitman and Freemason, everyone who lives in this apartment complex is also a Freemason. They are not welcoming him because he is not a Freemason. He found the problem with his car, someone put a satellite chip car disabler in it. He is very mad because he pumped up his flat tire and someone let all the air back out (its punctured). He is involved with the police, so he has mates coming, he is going to put his car in police custody so I guess he is going with it. Priceless. He is now going to squat in the police compound I guess, I wonder if their attitude will remain the same!

    • tonka on 07/07/2016 - 00:48
      +7

      Poor guy, I had a friend like this, when they are like this they are completely dysfunctional and really terrified a lot. Not bad people just something in their head is clearly not working right.
      Very hard to cope with and the paranoia and delusions makes it hard for them to accept that they are ill. He may well have family and friends looking for him.
      My flatmate used to just disappear when he went off the rails and show up a few days later. He didn't really know where he'd been. We found out once he'd entered someone's house to try and rescue them from invading aliens.
      Even sadder is the couple of times recently these types have been killed by police because they're too dysfunctional to follow their instructions.

      • mrluke on 07/07/2016 - 01:15
        +1

        Yeah, could even be psychosis thrown in as well. If the cops would get off their arse and do their job and chat to him for 5 minutes like I just did they would see he is mentally unwell and drop him off at the hospital or at least call the CAT team.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 12:34

          Because you know, human rights. Gotta let the mentally unwell roll their own way.

    • Name on 10/07/2016 - 08:57

      One of my aunts is like this (my mum's brother's ex-wife). She purposefully lives in a car so she can move around, keeps the CIA away. They put things in her head to control her. Etc. She turned up at my parents house one weekend, they gave her the spare room, good meal and stuff to have a shower/clean up. But they locked themselves in their bedroom for the night and called her son to find out if she is dangerous. He wanted them to keep her there for as long as possible so he could fly up to get her. He hadn't seen her or heard from her in a few years. They're trying to get her put in a home.

      He said she wasn't dangerous, just a little crazy. More worried about her harming herself or getting herself into a situation where someone would take advantage of her.

      Sounds a bit like this guy, just a danger to himself.

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