Where Do You Get Your News from?

OzFrugie on 13/02/2017 - 23:59
Last edited 13/02/2017 - 23:59

As the title says, just wondering where do Ozbargainers get their news from?

Personally, being in NSW, I use SMH and News.com.au (and sometimes from Facebook News Feed).

Poll Options

  • 68
    Sydney Morning Herald (and its other states' equivalents)
  • 74
    News.com.au
  • 10
    The Australian
  • 5
    Australian Finance Review
  • 1
    Daily Telegraph
  • 54
    The Guardian
  • 37
    The Age
  • 1
    Yahoo, MSN, and the likes
  • 12
    Facebook
  • 153
    Other (state below in comments section)
Internet

Comments

  • atris17 on 14/02/2017 - 00:02
    +34

    PBS, ABC (Australia)

    • Scab on 14/02/2017 - 09:22

      ABC news sucks, I find SBS far better.

      • Rocket6 on 15/02/2017 - 09:50

        Agreed with above, ABC news is terrible.

        • mobius on 15/02/2017 - 09:55
          +6

          Really I work at ABC, why's that?

        • Brianqpr on 15/02/2017 - 16:18
          +29

          @millzy: I assume you have no objection to the rampant right wing propaganda of newscorp aorund the world?

        • psnatch on 15/02/2017 - 17:27
          +4

          Yeah, nah:

          ABC Editorial Audit #1
          ABC Editorial Audit #2

        • Rocket6 on 15/02/2017 - 19:31
          +7

          @millzy:

          I'm still not sure how we're being downvoted here. Only stating a fact. The ABC is left wing. If those that sit on the left are downvoting out of spite, I think that's pretty poor.

        • dazweeja on 15/02/2017 - 23:25
          +20

          @Rocket6:

          It's not a fact. It's conjecture without any attempt at substantiation. The ABC is the only news organisation that is regularly reviewed for balance. The person chosen to conduct the review almost always has a conservative background. And yet they always find that their coverage is generally balanced. You can find all the editorial reviews on this page:

          http://about.abc.net.au/how-the-abc-is-run/what-guides-us/ou…

        • Rocket6 on 16/02/2017 - 09:06
          +3

          @dazweeja:

          Come onnnnnn Daz, you know thats ludicrous. I can post links too:

          "By being even mildly right-wing, they risk alienating the ABC's traditional audience. Over the decades, radio listeners have divided. If you favour the right, you go commercial; if you favour the left, you go to the ABC" Apr 5, 2016

          http://www.smh.com.au/comment/abc-radio-personalities-need-t…

          https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/h…

          http://newsweekly.com.au/article.php?id=5595

          "A survey of over 600 Australian journalists, conducted by a senior academic from the University of the Sunshine Coast, Queensland, has cast a revealing light on the political beliefs of Australian journalists.

          It shows that over 40 per cent of ABC journalists support the Greens, over 30 per cent support Labor, and just 15 per cent support the Coalition.

          While political beliefs do not automatically result in biased reporting, the left-wing dominance suggests that the culture of the ABC is overwhelmingly to the left, so that many journalists are unaware that their views are far to the left of the mainstream, or believe that they are a vanguard who must “educate” the public towards their perceptions of reality".

        • dazweeja on 16/02/2017 - 09:59
          +10

          @Rocket6:

          I posted links to rigorous independent reviews and you post three links: the first is specifically not taking about news impartiality (which is unbiased and the point in this thread) but talk-back presenters on radio. The second I suggest you read again because if you agree with that article's description of the right as purveyors of fear and suspicion and beholden to vested interests, that's self-aware but a bit sad. And the third is just conjecture suggesting that journalists at the ABC can't be unbiased due to their political views when this has been disproved by numerous independent reviews. Wholly unconvincing.

          Maybe try to point to some sources with rigour and independence as I have? If not, it seems it's just a case of your perception.

        • Rocket6 on 16/02/2017 - 10:58

          @dazweeja:

          I agree - but I have posted mine with the intention of describing the mainstream view that the ABC is traditionally biased and left-wing orientated.

          Im not really fussed with the results of a 'review', just like I didn't pay particular attention to the review recently done by Ray Martin of all people.

          Any show which employs individuals who are predominately left-wing is bound move towards the left. That is a normal expectation.

          That independent article makes this point - "Fearlessly reporting facts while deploying reason and logic, at the same time standing strong in the face of vested interests for the good of the country.

          So yep … it’s actually true. The ABC is biased against the Right.

          I think it’s time we just accept it". That is the fundamental message to take from that piece of writing.

        • Ahbal on 16/02/2017 - 11:06
          +2

          @Rocket6:

          I notice that's what they do. Instead of countering a valid point, they downvote it so it's hidden. Not just here, on many other forums with a downvote system.

        • Jebroni on 16/02/2017 - 19:00
          +4

          @mobius:

          Extreme left bias. Until they start moving closer to the middle i think they need another funding cut. I don't think a public broadcaster should be pushing a political agenda.

        • RockyRaccoon on 16/02/2017 - 21:03
          +3

          @Jebroni: Have a look here

          https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/260836

          Majority of Ozbargainers identify as being male 0-29

          Generally younger people are more idealistic, and hence have more left wing views.

          As people get older they become more conservative/realistic.

          The point being made is that since the majority is younger and probably (although not surveyed)have a higher education, they will read more left wing/liberal publications, as evidenced by this survey.

          The ABC has rarely been criticised for being right wing

        • rump parliament on 16/02/2017 - 23:24
          +5

          @RockyRaccoon:

          You're right that aging is linked with a small gradual increase in voting conservative.

          But I would be very cautious about describing conservatives as realists. Conservatives in Australia have been continuously hostile to not just action on climate change but its existence, despite the huge weight of evidence and the real long-term costs and risks it poses.

          It's not that the ABC is biased, it's just the Australian and the Murdoch press are so openly right-wing it shifts where conservatives think the middle is. There's just not a left-wing equivalent to the shock jocks and Miranda (profanity) Devine.

        • Jackson on 17/02/2017 - 00:02
          +1

          @Rocket6: The Socialist Alliance is left wing, the ABC is a fair way to the right of that

        • Jackson on 17/02/2017 - 00:10
          +2

          @Rocket6: the ABC being left wing is not a mainstream view, it's a view of the right. I disagree that a predominantly left wing group of journalists when doing their job properly ie. Reporting facts, would be biased.

          I also don't see why standing against vested interests should be the domain of the left? Shouldn't both sides of politics be encouraging that in a democratic society?

        • Jackson on 17/02/2017 - 00:14

          @rump parliament: there is, but they are so far left from where the ABC are and therefore so few that no one really pays attention to them.

        • DingoBilly on 17/02/2017 - 09:39
          -2

          @Rocket6:

          Glad we can depend on a non-biased news source that is not reviewed by anyone as the main piece of your evidence. Especially by a news writer who's written 5 articles in total on the website. Glad you verify and utilise the best quality of journalism available to you.

        • [Deactivated] on 17/02/2017 - 14:59
          -1

          @Jackson:

          The ABC is about as left-wing as the Democratic Party in the US. When people sit on the fringes of conservative politics, such as that snake Bernardi, then they see everything that disagrees with them as leftist. You only have to look at America, when Fox news/Breitbart/Republican pundits call the media the 'alt-left radical media'.

        • Jackson on 17/02/2017 - 16:45

          @fredz: which is "a mainstream stream party"

        • chiefbodge on 18/02/2017 - 14:41
          +3

          From my observation the right tends to see reporting of cold hard facts as biased so it would be hard for the ABC to please them.

          I can't comment on radio in other cities but our local (ABC Adelaide 891) morning presenters Matthew Abraham and David Bevan attack labour consistently and ferociously.

          Also those on the right seem to rave on about how great Chris Uhlmann is (he is not only an ex independent conservative MP but also an ex liberal staffer) and he is ABCs head political editor.

        • EightImmortals on 19/02/2017 - 14:09
          +1

          @Rocket6: That's how the left operates these days.

      • [Deactivated] on 17/02/2017 - 14:59

        Sorry, disagree with you 100%.

        Sounds like you prefer foreign news. ABC tends to be more focused on Australian affairs.

  • nocure on 14/02/2017 - 00:11
    +44

    OzBargain forums.☺

    • Nugs on 14/02/2017 - 06:46
      +1

      yep, why wasn't it listed as an option?

  • auna on 14/02/2017 - 00:18

    www.drudgereport.com

    www.twitter.com. Subscribe to Fox News. For laughs subscribe to Huffpost and CNN fake news. Make sure to subscribe to Jake Tapper, Piers Morgan, J.K. Rowling and Adam Baldwin to have some fun.

    Countless places now have negative status to me. I would rather talk to a random guy on the street - he would have a higher status of trust than these so called journalist who reside in havens of libel and lies.

    Talk shows are hidden sources of "news" and you should guard yourself from their efforts to persuade you - because it's "comedy" they can get away with murder.

  • Elppa8 on 14/02/2017 - 00:49
    +42

    ABC (Australia)

    • El Cap on 15/02/2017 - 15:24
      +7

      I am not sure why the poll didn't include ABC to begin with!

    • TheLurker on 16/02/2017 - 23:42
      +1

      ABC news bot on Facebook messenger is pretty good. I get a daily message with 3 articles which is good for super quick news briefing. For time poor people, worth a try

      • [Deactivated] on 17/02/2017 - 15:03
        +2

        Use the ABC news app and delete your Facebook account.
        Your life will be much happier. :)

  • canyoudoitcheaper on 14/02/2017 - 01:15
    +40

    The Onion; Betoota Advocate

    • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2017 - 09:00
      +8

      ugh /r/worldnews just ugh.. very carefully curated to the agenda they 'want' you see, very much goes against the reddit ethic

      /r/news is only USA

      /r/australia is pretty good

      • Tnetennba on 15/02/2017 - 09:27
        +9

        The problem with reddit news subs is that they all have an agenda and anything critical of their views will never see the light of day.

        E.g. In /r/Australia, if you criticise Labor pretty much guaranteed to get down voted. It's simply due to the demographic (young white males primarily). Not that I would criticise them, it's just pretty obvious of the amount of left-leaning bias that exists there.

        • Praeto on 15/02/2017 - 12:18
          +1

          Create a multi-reddit by using a + between a number of subreddit names and the bias balances itself out. :p

        • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2017 - 12:34

          It's not so much the natural bias of the people casting their votes, rather the moderation teams actively suppressing what they don't like (even if it has a lot of upvotes) which is the problem

        • ATangk on 15/02/2017 - 21:38
          +1

          Just sort by controversial. You'll see a different side of Reddit.

        • Infraction on 15/02/2017 - 23:17
          +1

          @Praeto: 2 years and I never knew you could do that :|

    • redpump on 15/02/2017 - 18:10
      +2

      also, https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/ is good for sydneysiders. I like frequenting it

    • Protato on 19/02/2017 - 14:09
      +1

      https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/

      Lol

  • PJC on 14/02/2017 - 03:23
    +27

    New Idea. Everything in there is gospel. That's how I learnt of Lleyton & Bec Hewitt's first 53 divorces.

  • RockyRaccoon on 14/02/2017 - 05:47
    +8

    Your options are wrong.

    SMH and its other states equivalents

    then you later list

    The Age

    The Age is another state equivalent of SMH

    • OzFrugie on 14/02/2017 - 21:24

      Lol sorry didn't know

    • Rocket6 on 15/02/2017 - 09:51

      Was going to type exactly the same thing. OP, suggest you replace 'The Age' with the 'Herald Sun' for Melbournians.

      The Herald Sun is the most popular newspaper here in Vic.

      • Devils Advocate on 15/02/2017 - 13:23
        +5

        Herald Sun and News.com.au are the same thing though.

        • MoMoney on 17/02/2017 - 07:56

          Not really. News.com.au is a news aggregator for News Corp sites; which includes the Herald Sun. Herald Sun have their own independent content; not all of which is aggregated by News.com.au. News.com.au barely produce their own content; unless you consider Opinion pieces by staff writers about MKR and MAFS decent news content.

  • mskeggs on 14/02/2017 - 06:44
    +4

    Smh, daily Tele and guardian website. Need to mix it up a bit to understand the whole picture.
    ABC radio sometimes and news24 if there is a major breaking story

    • Jackson on 17/02/2017 - 00:20
      +2

      Latte sippers, yobbos and sandal wearers covered!

  • ms_caz on 14/02/2017 - 07:16
    +8

    ABCnews24 seems to be constantly on in our household, along with Parliament broadcasts. Mr Caz also watches online US content. Channel 10's The Project is usually on when we are having dinner and then ABC 7.30 report.

    All of the above is background noise - plus the associated commentary from the man.

    Me personally, I scan through the Herald Sun - looking at the comments sections and reading my horoscope - that is news, isn't it?

  • Gronk on 14/02/2017 - 09:10
    +10

    See it on Reddit 1 day, see it in the paper 2 days later, the sad new face of Journalism…

    • Clear on 14/02/2017 - 10:37
      +1

      Newspaper usually reports it a week or a few months later.

    • Tnetennba on 15/02/2017 - 09:31
      +2

      Maybe for internet memes, it takes news days to catch up.. But for actual news, reddit is literally an aggregation of links to news sites.

      • Praeto on 15/02/2017 - 12:20
        +9

        Every time there is any kind of major incident, the reddit live threads are the best source of information around. They're not just linking to news sites, they're usually getting input directly from the community in the area.

    • TenaciousTom on 17/02/2017 - 11:38

      But reddit would just be a link to a news article…

  • hakkenuh on 14/02/2017 - 09:14
    +2

    Guardian 100% & ABC the only unbiased news sources, The Australian has to be pure shit after looking at the front page several times, just a think tank for the libs.

    • victorwilson on 14/02/2017 - 12:59
      +6

      The Australian has to be pure shit … just a think tank for the libs

      Just like how the Guardian is a "think tank" for the left?

      • hakkenuh on 14/02/2017 - 18:35
        +3

        No not really, the guardian is completely independent and is unbiased, it sounds like a newsreader from the australian is a bit butthurt

        • Bren20 on 15/02/2017 - 07:51
          +7

          Why do people always think the paper they read is unbiased?

          I sit fairly comfortable in the left of the political spectrum, and I see slight left leanings in The Age/ABC, with the guardian sitting somewhat to the left of your typical labor voter. Having said that, the guardian's journalism is second to none.

          I read The Age primarily, but I tried to switch to the guardian/ABC but they didn't have enough local content.
          Herald Sun is good for quizzes, which can be brutally hard compared to The Age.

          The Age annoys me with it's uninformed crusades and clickbait rubbish.

        • mobius on 15/02/2017 - 09:59
          -3

          @dinna89: The problem saying that both left and right leaning papers are equally bias and thus both points of view should be listen to is disingenuous. The "truth", or facts always leans left. Right is almost always based on fear mongering.

    • ilikeradiohead on 15/02/2017 - 11:22
      +6

      Guardian 100% & ABC the only unbiased news sources

      You're trolling, right?

  • markb28 on 14/02/2017 - 09:14
    +9

    BBC

    • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2017 - 06:54

      That's what she said.

      [Deactivated] on 15/02/2017 - 06:54 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
    • [Deactivated] on 17/02/2017 - 06:26

      yeap, BBC…

  • TransportPosters on 14/02/2017 - 09:15

    news.com.au
    PPRUNE.org

  • Pumpkin_rrr on 14/02/2017 - 09:16
    +3

    In addition to the above, Quora & SBS.

  • Scab on 14/02/2017 - 09:22
    +2

    I get my news from Ozbargain forums.

  • railspider on 14/02/2017 - 09:28
    +14

    You really need to add ABC news (abc.net.au) as one of the poll options. It's the most unbiased news source in Aus with minimal 'junk' news ("top 10 ways to impress your man", sort of tabloid articles, that news.com.au is infamous for)

    Crikey is good too, if you feel like paying a subscription.

    • Wampus on 14/02/2017 - 10:08
      +5

      ABC new website for the actual news. News.com.au for entertainment

  • altomic on 14/02/2017 - 10:00
    +1

    i avoid all the pinko, commie, tree hugging, homo, feminist, lefty crap news and only go to the impartial/tell-it-like-it-is journo's with integrity - John Laws + carl sandilands

    /s

    • Jackson on 17/02/2017 - 00:28

      Now how to work out who is voting each way on this comment? Definitely some sarcasm but equally there will be people who literally think this way

  • Diji1 on 14/02/2017 - 10:07
    +8

    Every single option you listed includes news organisations that simply repeat press releases without doing anything else because they exist to serve the consumers of their garbage ads. They weren't set up as a propaganda system but it's even easier to get propaganda into the system because they just repeat press releases.

    Or single Tweets from new Twitter accounts as history has shown over and over - whatever horseshit sells ads.

    Your life is made worse by consuming news. However if you want to stop consuming it you will find it difficult for about 3 weeks in a manner somewhat consistent with that of a drug addict trying to quit.

    I challenge you to stop consuming it.

    • imnotarobot on 15/02/2017 - 21:59

      Got some examples? Legit question

      • imnotarobot on 16/02/2017 - 16:33

        I guess not, then?

        • Jackson on 17/02/2017 - 00:29

          Ah, no.

    • Porco Rosso on 16/02/2017 - 17:37
      +1

      I kind of agree with this. We had a very stressful patch we passed through last year. I totally detached myself from the world by not reading any news or not listening to any news. Believe it or not it helped a lot. I thought that whenever I read news (real news), it was mostly all bad or worse news except ABC science section and this made me sad. By not reading the news, I did feel better.
      Although ABC does not sell ads which is why I 'kind of' agree :)

  • Godric on 14/02/2017 - 10:13
    +2

    Memes on facebook

  • inherentchoice on 14/02/2017 - 10:26
    +11

    Google News. https://news.google.com.au/

    • readyState on 15/02/2017 - 11:30

      good suggestion. i'm going to try this out.

  • nomoneynoproblems on 14/02/2017 - 11:45
    +37

    Sad so many go to news.com.au

    • peterpeterpumpkin on 14/02/2017 - 13:23
      +1

      That's what having the ideal domain name SEO-wise (just type "news" into any au search engine) and no paywall gets you.

    • rodinthink on 16/02/2017 - 13:39
      +6

      Fake News , SAD!

  • [Deactivated] on 14/02/2017 - 11:59
    +10

    RT.com

    Alex Jones

    Don't ever buy into western media..its all run by the establishment and always pushes for agendas/brainwashing

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