Opinion required: Toyota Yaris, Honda Jazz, Holden Barina or Kia Rio

LAnzi on 20/04/2017 - 13:02
Last edited 20/04/2017 - 13:33

Hi Guys

We are planning to buy 2017 new Automatic Car and wanted an opinion on the following cars to decide which one we should go for:

Toyota Yarris Ascent 1.3L – 2017

Honda Jazz VTi 1.5L- 2017

Holden Barina LS 1.6L – 2017

Kia Rio s 1.4L – 2017

Please share your view especially if you know any specific things to look for.

We have a budget of around 20K. We will be using the car mostly for weekends or during long holidays to explore other states and plan to resale the car at least after 5 years, so yes resale value is of high importance. Handling and servicing cost is also to be considered keeping in view the usage for 5 years minimum.

Also, we are planning to have this financed upto 3/4 the value (say 15k if the price comes to 20K). Please do let us know which of the above company offers better rate or less penalty if we decide to pay off early (early settlement) or if you can suggest any specific bank that may offer better rates and service.

Thanks alot
Anzi

Automotive

Comments

  • Halo375 on 20/04/2017 - 13:08
    +2

    It might help if you explained more about what mattered to you - handling, running costs, storage capacity, dealer experience, price, resale value, your budget, etc.

  • Anzi on 20/04/2017 - 13:31

    Thanks Vinesde for your response. As this is my first experience with a forum, please feel free to advise.

    We have a budget of around 20K. We will be using the car mostly for weekends or during long holidays to explore other states and plan to resale the car at least after 5 years, so yes resale value is of high importance.

    • ATangk on 22/04/2017 - 14:22
      +3

      Does it need to be new? I feel a larger sized car would be better for your needs.

  • Stewardo on 20/04/2017 - 14:06
    +1

    Jazz or Yaris, however I'd avoid the cvt version of the jazz.

    • montorola on 22/04/2017 - 13:16
      +6

      +1 to these, can't go wrong with a Honda or Toyota.

      Although my pick would be the Jazz, they're actually pretty roomy and practical if you need to carry large things in a pinch.

      However - you do say you'd like to take the car on long holidays or interstate…I'd say picking something from the class above (Corolla, Civic etc) would be better and more comfortable on the highway, else you'll be stuck with a loud engine noise the whole time you're on the highway!

  • [Deactivated] on 20/04/2017 - 14:17
    +3

    Opinion required:

    do you want to survive a crash or die, should be the question here.

  • Marcsie on 20/04/2017 - 14:17
    +1

    Mazda 2, Mazda 3, Hyundai i30, Corolla :)

    • dasher86 on 20/04/2017 - 14:29
      +2

      Mazda 3, i30 and Corolla are in a different car category.

  • MechEng on 20/04/2017 - 14:56
    +6

    I would pick the Rio. Heaps of warranty.
    Consider Cerato too, it is in your price range and much better car.

    • ChrisLevo on 20/04/2017 - 15:40
      +1

      +1 for the Cerato.

      Excellent reviews, 7 year warranty, quite spacious inside.

      • Rizflip on 20/04/2017 - 17:17
        +1

        I'd go for a Cerato too if your budget is under $20k. It's a bit more spacious than the rio, jazz etc which would help on longer trips.

        Great value for money, excellent warranty and road side assistance program.

  • djones145 on 20/04/2017 - 14:59

    The cars u list are prolly good for weekend car, but if ur travelling interstate u might want a sedan for a more cortfortsble ride, and easier drive.

    I have a Honda city, slightly over 20k, great small sedan, prolly just ok for long holiday drives ( freeway it does struggle without a good run up on hills with air con on!)
    How big is ur family too?

    Do u have a home loan, would recommend against borrowing at car dealers, full of fees etc, try going to a bank for a personal loan or redraw from ur home loan

    • spackbace on 20/04/2017 - 15:53
      -3

      Do u have a home loan

      False economy, you're borrowing for 20-30yrs instead of 5

      personal loan

      You really think a personal loan is cheaper than a secured car loan… wow

      • justjack on 20/04/2017 - 16:04
        +6

        IF op has a home loan with a redraw facility or offset account this would most likely be the cheapest financing option. Regardless of whether its for a car, investment, holiday.

      • BestofOZB on 22/04/2017 - 11:24
        +3

        Not false economy, redraw the 20k and pay it back over 5 years not 30 years. By far is the best option if available at the lowest rate.

        • WhyAmICommenting on 22/04/2017 - 15:20

          Using an excel spreadsheet? Good luck with the time, motivation and discipline to do that!

        • jlogic on 22/04/2017 - 17:45
          +1

          Who needs a spreadsheet? Work out what you would of paid in personal loan repayments then draw it out of the home loan and increase your home loan repayments to cover.

  • spackbace on 20/04/2017 - 15:51
    +1

    New Swift due to be released in May/June looks to blow those out of the water based on the specs and asking price

    • nocure on 20/04/2017 - 16:46
      -1

      Rio is better :)

      • spackbace on 20/04/2017 - 16:55
        +2

        For under $20k you'll have a car with:
        GPS/CarPlay/Android Auto/Bluetooth
        Blind-Spot Monitors
        Lane Departure Assist
        360-view cameras

        And Japanese reliability & resale

        ;)

        • nocure on 20/04/2017 - 17:04
          +1

          7 year warranty?

        • [Deactivated] on 22/04/2017 - 13:36

          GPS/CarPlay/Android Auto/Bluetooth
          You mean like a $150 stereo from autobarn…..

          Gotta love your salesman dribble, maybe let everyone know that you work for a certain dealership.

        • spackbace on 22/04/2017 - 14:01
          +1

          @Lenny Pepperidge:

          I don't need to put it in every single comment I make, same as I have NFI what you do for a living.

          I've made it known previously, but it's not necessary in every post, unless you're going to ask each and every commenter in here what they do for a living…?

        • [Deactivated] on 22/04/2017 - 15:04

          @Spackbace:

          it applies when you are recommending a car.. do I need to know you work for a dealership when you're posting some supermarket deals? no.

        • spackbace on 22/04/2017 - 15:31

          @Lenny Pepperidge:

          So why aren't you asking everyone else in this thread what they do for work? Why single me out?

    • [Deactivated] on 20/04/2017 - 17:54

      It looks like puke

      • spackbace on 20/04/2017 - 18:02
        +1

        Well, you do like the Jazz, so maybe you need glasses :)

        • [Deactivated] on 20/04/2017 - 18:04

          Couldn't really care less about what it looks like.
          But don't try to tell me your 2 year olds art work is worthy of the Louvre

        • spackbace on 20/04/2017 - 18:08
          +2

          @Drew22:

          Wut?

          Couldn't really care less about what it looks like.

          So you care how one looks, but not the other…

          Wut?

        • [Deactivated] on 20/04/2017 - 18:38

          @Spackbace:
          Wut? They're all ugly

    • moonphase on 20/04/2017 - 18:43

      Isn't it bit small though?

  • wei13 on 20/04/2017 - 16:59
    +1

    A few years ago I bought a new auto 5 door Yaris YRS 1.5l for $20k drive away (qld). Got to 260,000km on it, then accidentally destroyed it on a rainy day (my fault). Got a $7k payout from insurance. Very boring car, but it never missed a beat.

    • Jackson on 22/04/2017 - 17:25

      Boring until you were skidding down the road on a rainy day by the sounds of it…?

  • John Kimble on 20/04/2017 - 17:04
    +2

    during long holidays to explore other states

    Personally I would look for a car with Cruise Control for long trips? Not sure if that is standard with all the cars you list there?

    I would probably choose between the Yaris and the Jazz out of that list (just because I haven't tried the others).

    Jazz is really amazing in terms of the magic seats (could sometimes mean you don't need to get delivery or hire a van if buying a lot from Ikea), but wont mean much if you have a full car of people. I don't mind it, but a lot of more learned people seem to hate the CVT.

    Yaris is also a no brainer I think.

    BIL has a Swift, pretty good too.

  • [Deactivated] on 20/04/2017 - 17:50

    Jazz
    The lane change camera
    The way the front seats fold
    The way the rear seats fold
    The cup holder to the right of the steering wheel

    • PVA on 20/04/2017 - 18:02
      +1

      But they look like puke.

  • moonphase on 20/04/2017 - 18:42
    +2

    If you don't mind the design, I recommend Honda Jazz with given option.

    Resell value is not bad too but if you look for resell value, wouldn't it be better to get 3~4 yrs old used car?

    First 3~4 year drops the resell value most but if you buy your car after those periods, you would expect lesser drop on resell value.

  • captobvious on 20/04/2017 - 19:14

    Toyota for resale

  • ulan on 20/04/2017 - 19:21

    Honda Jazz VTi 1.5L- 2017 = my preference

  • apple2016 on 20/04/2017 - 19:37
    +2

    car mostly for weekends or during long holidays to explore other states

    I would not recommend any of the cars you have listed for interstate trips.

    resale value is of high importance

    the difference in resale value for the listed cars after 5 yrs / 100,000 kms is going to be negligible. Some might prefer a jap/korean over a holden though.

    If I were you I would go for a car based on the answers to the questions below:
    Did you drive all the listed cars?
    How did they feel?
    Which seat was the most comfortable to sit for 6-10 hrs?
    which car did you prefer by looks?
    which car offers you the space for stuff you like to carry on your interstate trips?
    Does the car have a full size spare?
    whats the full tank range(This would help in your long distance travels)?

  • [Deactivated] on 20/04/2017 - 22:38
    +2

    Mrs has a Rio. She loves it. Reliable and hasnt given one issue. 7 yr warranty cant go wrong.
    p.s: stay clear of barina

    • bich.light on 27/05/2017 - 20:40

      Why? What's wrong with the Barons?

      • [Deactivated] on 28/05/2017 - 18:13
        +1

        Mate had it. Gearbox gave him a lot of trouble.

        • bich.light on 28/05/2017 - 19:06

          Seems a lot of hate on the holden for their crappy reliability.

        • [Deactivated] on 28/05/2017 - 19:09

          @bich.light: No at all. I had a VE SSV and it never caused me any grief. Just depends on the model. Captiva is another lemon in their range.

        • bich.light on 28/05/2017 - 19:20

          @Shiv86:

          Hmm I see. What about the spark?

        • [Deactivated] on 28/05/2017 - 19:40

          @bich.light: Isnt that a barina

        • bich.light on 28/05/2017 - 20:58
          +1

          @Shiv86:
          I think they've changed the line out now. The holden site advertises them as different vehicles.

  • TheManInDemand on 20/04/2017 - 22:44
    +1

    Kia Rio without a doubt
    The maintenance on the other cars are more expensive
    Never ever touch a barina. Worth nothing even a 3 years later
    Make sure you keep the service records
    Honda is expensive to maintain with quality parts
    Toyota isn't what it used to be
    Kia is king especially with the new shape for the Rio
    Dont worry about resale value
    All cars drop by half after 4 years.
    No don't touch the cerato either
    This is coming from a dealer.
    You'll end up buying whichever car is prettier 😂
    Go to John Cadogan website and you'll definitely save money
    Dont buy any extras from the dealer. Tinting, paint protection etc none of it. Buy it outside if you need. Be warned the car may not come with floor mats.
    Also put on the contract that the sale is dependent on a family member liking the car. Why? Because that way if you decide to back out of the deal you can blame it on the family member. MAKE SURE it's on the contract!

  • dasher86 on 21/04/2017 - 08:36

    Go to John Cadogan website and you'll definitely save money

    I didn't. couldn't get me better than what i had.

  • Anzi on 21/04/2017 - 09:38

    Thanks, alot guys. Pretty good insight and things to know before we finalize.

    Yes, we dis the test drive of all of them. The design seems to be very similar in all except magic seats in Honda. Almost all has cruise control but no navigation system.

    Toyota Yaris 2017 has the cheapest service capped at 140 every 6 months but unfortunately, their interest rate ranges from 8.5 - 10.9% which is highest amongst all. Their penalty rate for early settlement is also capped at 150 per year.

    Kio Rio 2017 no doubt has the longest warranty period but during the test drive, we found that it take more time for the car to shift gear (auto) at a U-turn. The dealer mentioned that this is because of its a new car and will be settled after some use which I doubt.

    Honda was smooth to drive with blind spot monitors and magic seats. we some negotiation, the guy was ready to throw in Mats, trays, mud guards together with full fuel of tank.

    Thanks once again everyone for all your contribution. This has really helped us in taking our decision.
    Anzi

  • HeWhoKnows on 21/04/2017 - 14:14

    Mate. FORGET about what anyone else says! This is something only YOU can decide as its really a PERSONAL choice.
    Firstly, Take each one for a drive and see which you like the best.
    Secondly check the cost of capped servicing if its available as this can vary considerably
    Thirdly Check which one is cheapest to insure as this too can vary considerably
    Fourthly but not least importantly the location of the nearest dealer is VERY IMPORTANT! You don't want servicing and repairs to be a major inconvenience.

    • BestofOZB on 22/04/2017 - 11:54
      +2

      MATE STOP SCREAMING!

      • grog on 22/04/2017 - 15:55

        He is not screaming… he is using a mill on some letters…

        " For those who have never encountered one, a mill is a typewriter without lower case letters. "

  • janmejoy on 21/04/2017 - 21:37

    May look at new Suzuki baleno

  • rickxs on 22/04/2017 - 09:22
    +2

    a no brainer ,the Cerato at $19,990 auto drive away— 7 yr warranty ,the Rio is small for legroom

    ..

  • aman00024 on 22/04/2017 - 09:59

    ToyotA👌🏾

  • [Deactivated] on 22/04/2017 - 10:33

    Hyundai Accent - it is the most practical choice.

  • SuperFly 420 on 22/04/2017 - 10:58

    Why Ford Fiesta is not in your list? Same category, compact cars.

    I did test drive on all these cars before choosing the Ford Fiesta.

    That's been 4 years without a problem, except for a transmission issue.

  • BestofOZB on 22/04/2017 - 11:28

    Add a poll to make it easy for you.
    I would get a rio or a cerato, or i30 if you can push your budget a bit.
    I would stay awaaaay from a barina.

  • MessyG on 22/04/2017 - 11:32
    +2

    Yaris, they run forever.

    • montorola on 22/04/2017 - 13:20
      +1

      Toyota ftw!!

  • Peteroz on 22/04/2017 - 13:20

    All of them are ugly for with Mazda 3.

  • [Deactivated] on 22/04/2017 - 14:56

    Forget the holden

  • AlienC on 22/04/2017 - 15:50

    Boogatty Vayron only choice on here there is.

    • ggrant on 23/04/2017 - 01:20

      Get a red one, yeah!
      Like BNJAM3 suggested consider Suzuki Swift, or Toyota.

  • Bnjam3 on 22/04/2017 - 16:59

    I would say go with Suzuki swift. Highly reliable and great resale value and cheap on fuel, you will also get capped price service :) Rent one for couple of days and see if you like it or no.

  • Stimps on 22/04/2017 - 17:51

    2016 Mazda 3 demo can be had for 20,000. Better resale and fuel efficiency than the Cerato.

  • nikey2k27 on 23/04/2017 - 21:52

    Toyota Yarris but have you look at new mazda 3

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