sk11%off
I have been buying quite a few windows 10 pro keys from scdkey and never had any issues with them. Just received this code "sk11%off" in my email box and was encouraged to share them!
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Windows 10 Pro OEM US$13.55 (AU$17.5), Office2016 Pro Plus US$28.64 (AU$37) via SCDKEY
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That is a good question. Please explain, OP.
3 hrs without a reply is suspicious in itself, but I like to assume the best in OzB postings.
In that sense, OP might build computers and is trying to reduce cost for customers.
Assuming the worst, OP is actually SCDKEY with a very misguided view of appealing to OzB users.
More likely, OP is just a new(er) user who saw what they thought was a massive bargain and wanted to share :)
to summarise every other shonky cd key thread
pirate it instead of buying it because buying one of these hacked/carded/bs keys is no better than piracy
It's amazing that blatant piracy isn't banned here.
We all know how to get pirated stuff without $ being needed..
Not speaking of this seller, or offering, but Euro courts have made it clear, Euro owners of software can on sell to anyone when they are finished with their software. Oracle lost the case, and it effects all software makers.
The only thing they cant do is break up say 5 licence deal into 5 single licences. It must be sold as a block of 5 licences.
Its not necessarily pirated.
Considering you can buy 1 x Office Pro Plus license from them, and office Pro Plus is a Volume License only product, I think you're drawing a long bow.
But whatever justification people want to use to make themselves feel better about buying pirated software…
They are selling single licenses for a product you can't buy a single license for!
@jnewau: How do you know these are say 5 or 50 licence packs, being sold as a single, and the new owner just doesnt use the remaining 4?
They can not sell a 50 licence pack, as 50 singles. That is not the same thing as not being able to sell it for use on on machine.
@jnewau:Nothing desperate about it. I just understand justice, and evidence. Youre assering its not possible, and Im telling you it is. Moreover, Im telling you why, with evidence. None of it says this is a legit deal, it says your statements are assumptions.
See here. We generally have to repeat this comment every time it comes up (4 days between last drinks). So here we go:
We have reported these deals to Microsoft, eBay and other parties in the past with a result of no action. There appears to be loopholes in some countries where it is permitted to sell Windows 10 keys, e.g. Germany. Bottom line is if Microsoft and the seller sites don't care or won't act, then that is what we have to go off.
I suggest everyone report this to Microsoft and any other relevant authorities. We will continue to monitor this thread and inform the community of any different statements from these companies.
it is difficult to investigate cases where software keys checks out fine in microsofts end when you report them. What many don't see is the hidden facts that many were obtained from stolen credit cards in a criminal chain almost impossible to trace. The discrepancy between retail cost and these people are able to sell it for is a huge indicator.
But… if you cannot see the fact that Microsoft Office 2016 Pro Plus cannot be sold as a retail purchase, then there is an oversight in giving a platform for questionable business practices @ozb.
@im:
Agree so much with this. If the mods want to stand behind the resale ruling over OEM Windows licenses than thats fine, but the continued overlooking of sales of products which can only legitimately be bought via Volume Licensing is an absolute copout.
That post re the German decision that is always linked even refutes this - if licenses are supposed to be resold at the same quantity as the original purchase, then how are these stores managing to sell single keys (which of course will be a MAK) for a Volume License product
@im: so Microsoft selling Office Pro Plus on Amazon is a fraud???
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Office-Professional-Plus-20…
You do realize Amazon is not selling it? Its a storefront for dealz-4all in the Amazon marketplace
And yes, it is one of the more expensive shonky key sellers Ive seen
Amazon marketplace is full of fraudsters, check Reddit or any large forum for stories
@jnewau: They do not have to be resold at the same volume, thats is a selective understanding. They can sell a 5 licence pack, as a single and the new owner ignores the remaining licences. They cant sell a 5 licence pack, as 5 singles. There is a distinction. Show me this is what they are doing.
Right, so you're saying that they are buying say 5 licenses (the minimum for Vol Licensing) which is $3k worth of licenses at least, then splitting it out and selling just one of those for approx $30?
I have a bridge to sell you, are you interested?
@jnewau: No, I said how do you know they arent? And before you respond, google 'evidence'.
Ill happily accept this offering is piracy, when its proved its piracy. Until then youre herding cats.
Common sense? Reseller buy for Office Pro Plus is approx $660 ex. Again, why would anyone be selling something worth this much for $30
I really dont care what you think, you are the one drawing ridiculous conclusions when its obvious to anyone with experience what is going on here.
My employer is contracted by Microsoft to audit organizations , and we see plenty who buy these licenses and then sell them the shortfalls when they realize they have been dudded. More than one of them thought they were buying legit licenses from Moonbox and their cohorts. Microsoft will eventually get their money one way or another, they dont care about individuals
@jnewau: Are you sure you want to claim professional opinion status, and state this deal is piracy? What company was it you work for again?
Youve been told MS isnt interested. No court will uphold your assertions. You have no evidence,
I KNOW MS isnt interested, I said it myself above. They dont care about individuals, they only care about corporates.
This is going nowhere. If someone wants to feel better buying this, then they can knock themselves out
its still a waste of money and a rotten deal
@jnewau:
Well, there you go! You got a great shot and bonus. Tell through your employer to Microsoft about this seller.
Why catching up small fish when you an get the reseller. Same with drugs. Better to catch the dealer than the small drug user….
Mind you - I was also against those deals, but if the MS has been notified and decided not to act or even respond then…
No viruses or Trojans and the latest patches work
Get ya popcorn for the comments section, lads. Here we go!
Missed my comment edit window, but here's my experience and 2c on the issue:
Got one of these grey keys when I was a poor uni student because straight up piracy always involves using someone else's program. Someone you really shouldn't trust. I've since bought a legit licence because I'm no longer a poor uni student. That said, the old computer with the grey key is still valid, but I'm not banking on it staying that way forever.
Ultimately, if you're in a situation where you're weighing the merits of piracy (risky for your system and a crime) vs. gambling on a grey key (less risky, but not a crime), the choice is pretty obvious to me (you may feel differently). I'm (finally) at a place in my life where the price of peace of mind exceeds a relatively minor saving, but I completely understand that many people, my past self included, are not.
Seems like some people on here have wayyyyyyyyy too much time on their hands to worry about things that don't affect them in the slightest.
You just gotta shake your head at times!!!
They're certainly grey market sellers.
It could be they're selling old windows 7/8 keys which activate windows 10? Or they could be reselling cheap keys from other countries. Or they could be selling keygen keys. All which could be deactivated.
Here's a handy Reddit guide on the subject
https://www.reddit.com/r/GameDeals/comments/2yhlw4/key_resel…
too many warning signs, staying clear of this one.
what people don't get is the fact many of these legit keys (checks out) were bought from black markets of which they were obtained/purchased from cyber crims using stolen credit cards. The fact that these people are even selling Office2016 Pro Plus should ring some alarm bells. You are just making crims rich. What you don't see behind the scene from your support to purchase these… are the likeliness of their origins from a chain of criminal activities.
I don't get microsoft's pricing. Essentially free if you're a student, cheap if workplace is in some program with them, but for the rest plugging away at home they charge exorbitant prices.
Your comment raises an interesting ethical (as distinct from legal) question. Are Microsoft's pricing strategies any more ethically moral than the criminals that im is (rightly) concerned about?
If you have a copy of Win7 on any PC you can still get 10 free, why would you buy a code?
No less fraudulent your method. Aren't you supposed to have some impairment to qualify for that upgrade you're referring to ?
Carw to elaborate?
I had a windows 7 laptop, which was offered a free upgrade. I have a windows 8 laptop which I did upgrade for free. all via windows pop ups. Not sure how its fraudulent if MS themselves offer the free ipgrade?
Only free upgrade win 7 to win 10 available now I'm aware of is via microsoft's assistive technologies page.
They were pumping that upgrade to everyone for ages. Stupid pop up annoyed the crap out of me.
Perhaps, who's to say you don't know somebody who needs to use your computer. Yes, semantics.
This is an OEM code, it says so in the title. Typically this means that it needs to be sold with a PC by an OEM.
The fact that is not occurring here alone would mean selling the keys are a breach of licence, regardless of whether they activate successfully or not.
This is where youre wrong applying Aus opr US standards. The Euro courts have stated, Oracle, and by extension MS, can not restrict the rights of software owners. If it came with a PC, as long as I remove it from the PC in question, or the PC is destroyed/no longer working etc, I can then sell the software. MS, tries to act like you lease it for the period of your ownership. Euro courts stated thats not how they interpret the law, and ruled it is the sole property of the purchaser, and they have every right to sell it. The only restriction is if you bought a 5 licence pack, you cant sell it as 5 separate licences, or sell 4 and keep 1. If you sell it, you sold all 5. You also can not keep a copy for yourself.
Again fr the irate, I have no opinion on the legitimacy of this particular deal. Just informing you that your understanding of what is legal is wrong.
U wanna test euro laws in australia? U keep on upholding euro laws. Not refering to oem rules.
Theres no need to test Euro law in Aus, I can legally buy from Europe, anything not illegal to own in Aus or sell in Europe. You would need to have a ruling stating I can not import it to stop me. Until then, we are free to do so if we like.
Nobody is stopping u. But u cannot uphold euro laws as if its .au laws.
If all of a sudden au laws state otherwise fom euro laws, u cant go arguing but in euro ruling… Blah blah.
@im: Yeah, Ill repeat, there is no law preventing it being imported. There is no law preventing its sale. No need to uphold Euro law in Aus, Aus law applies to importing software. Software that is readily available here so not illegal to own it. Just like mobile phones I can buy from hardly normal, or import from Hong Kong. And the product is perfectly legal to sell from Europe, to anyone.
Since its difficult to prove its origins of illegaly sourced win cdkeys….most likely from the black market, given the selling price…
ill move to my next point where u cant dispute, office 2016 pro plus cannot be sold like this.
It begs the legitimacy of businesses like these….
Having a close relative working for the bsa keeps me in check and passionate in standing up against these practices.
@im: Everything you say, is in an Aus sellers/owners context. If the software is available for use in Europe at all, in any fashion from MS, then the owner can sell it. I note youre not saying Office 2016 Pro Plus is not available in Europe at all.
Get it in your head. The Euro courts state, software, no mater what restriction makers put on it, is solely the property of the purchaser.\
EUROPE, does not allow software makers to retain rights over the property once they sell it. That is the ruling.
Get in ur head. If any of these turns out to be pirated keys (incl vol keys from somebody else) and say for example ur deploying it in your work place…wanna see.what happens if ur audited?
@im: Well the people who audit you would have to prove that = you had purchased a license from a known illegal source.
Such a thing would be near impossible to prove…
somewhat hard to prove. not impossible. especially in this globalised economy. different jurisdiction. for the effort of going for individuals its a tough ask. =does that make you in the right supporting crims. its more worthwhile to tackle bigger fish.
well in here anyway to make things a little easier to governing bodies in tackling piracy in businesses, they offer monetary incentives for "informants" willing to work with to expose the culprits.
@im: See there you go again. Assuming you are correct in your assumptions they are pirated. Your reasons for doing so has been shot down, but still you cant grasp it.
Me, I never made an assumption, I stated the law.
Ok to make it clear in my standing, my concern is obviously illegally sourced.
One side of the argument is that many of these turn out to be pirated. Other part is they are genuine but commonly sourced from illegal means. The fact that u dont bother acknowledging any of those things only highlight ur one narrow arguement. If i can recall, Eu ruling states they need to be lawfully sourced. Another point was upon transfer of license to the new aquirer, the first aquirer must cease using that license…
@im: Ive come across car thieves, that doesnt mean you or anyone else is one. I stated the ruling, must not retain copies or split up licence packs. OF course it must be legit purchase, that goes without saying. Courts generally are courts of equity, you must have clean hands to seek relief. That means you cant use the court to further illegal activity.
Ill happily concede these are pirated, when someone proves these are pirated. Not simply stating I saw a pirate once.
Read my original post, I never said these are or arent legit. Only they could be legit, and all arguments Ive heard that people think are proof they are pirated, are not any such thing. They are speculation.
Who are you referring to as software owners?
Microsoft owns the IP - so they are a software owner, and you as a licence buyer, a licensee, and bound by the terms of the licence.
Could you send a reference to the ruling where software once sold transfers the IP ownership to the buyer? This seems illogical given my understanding of IP. What you are saying then is that licences don't exist in europe - actual intellectual property ownership is transferred when a purchase is made? Then everyone jointly owns this IP? Confusing.
Google, have you heard of it? Oracle, Euro court licencing.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=oracle+euro+court&ie=utf-…
Whats confusing, is people struggle to look at something outside their own context.
Thee things you assume transfer etc are not necessarily so. The courts have ruled that attempts to control software after sales, are not valid. ie: nice try Oracle, but no.
Ah so you meant software licence owners.
Not to be confused with an IP owner - your post was confusing.
There are only four ways to get Office ProPlus. Via Volume Licensing; via Office 365 ProPlus, E3 or E5 plans; via the Home Use Program and via the Microsoft Action Pack. This is none of these. Therefore not legitimate licenses.
Why does everyone get irate about these keys? I'm sure everyone has used a pc at work (for example) where your company has paid the full whack for using Windows. I have no issues using these keys, and if they were bought with a stolen CC then I'd be happy to be given a refund and buy another one.
Yea why bother getting so worked up… pointless. Microsoft etc dont care so why should anyone else?
Some get upset because they had their own cheap/free access to this software and …dare, forbid that others access it !
They have shares in Microsoft
"I have been buying quite a few windows 10 pro keys from scdkey"
may I ask why ?