Home Theatre Room

Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 18:16
Last edited 26/01/2018 - 18:53 by 1 other user

Hi All,

I have a room that i want to turn into the theatre room.

The budget is up to 15k.

I will be installing them all.

The room size 3.3m by 3.1m

Projector Sony - $7,999.00

AV-Receiver Yamaha - $2,499.16 with 20% off

Ceiling speakers Sonance VP62R In-Wall Speakers x 2 - $1,298.00

4K BluRay Player Sony - $580.00

Sony - HTRT5 - 5.1CH HOME CINEMA SYSTEM WITH WI-FI/BLUETOOTH - 550W - $999.00

Total cost will be $13,375.16

What do you think and a size of that room would that be too much? if so can you guys let me know other options.

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Comments

  • No Username on 26/01/2018 - 18:28
    +12

    Better surround speakers?

    • Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 18:37

      Like?

      • No Username on 26/01/2018 - 18:49
        +1

        Are you planning on a Dolby atoms environment?

        • Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 19:16

          What ever it's good. I'm using it for movies and ps4

      • ItsMeAgro on 26/01/2018 - 18:58
        +41

        A "soundbar" system, no matter how pricey, is a big step down from a proper 5.1 or 7.1 speaker set. Simple physics means you'll always get better sound from large left and right front speakers and a big centre. So dump the dinky SONY - HTRT5 for starters.

        I haven't really looked at in-wall stuff much, but you'd really need to do a lot of research, it's not a common solution and so may have some drawbacks (like vibrating wall issues maybe being too loud outside the theatre room or even causing damage over time if you don't install them exactly right, I dunno…?)

        • Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 19:12

          Can you give me some suggestions on the speakers? And also the wall? I did some and went to big theater but for the same above they ask for 17k.

        • Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 19:13

          @Albtal:

          Also using it for movies and games

        • BiotBargin on 26/01/2018 - 21:02
          +6

          @Albtal:

          Q Acoustics 3010 or 3020 (3010 is plenty on that size room) / NHT pretty good also if you can get them

          Not sure if your room is bigger enough to gain anything for running Atmos…you could try going 5.1.2

        • lasterato on 28/01/2018 - 08:25

          @Albtal:
          May i suggest checking out KEF or Dali speakers? JB Hifi sell the Dali Zensor range and go on sale for 30% off at times during the year. They are great speakers: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/?q=dali%20zensor%20speakers& the KEF ones are a bit more pricey - i haven't head these, but i've heard great reports from KEF as an loudspeaker maker (YMMV): https://www.jbhifi.com.au/?q=kef%20speakers&

        • nikey2k27 on 28/01/2018 - 08:38

          @Albtal: yup go 7.1 it put speaker all around.

        • hypie on 29/01/2018 - 10:14
          +5

          @lasterato:

          JB Hi-Fi does a 40% off KEF speakers once every year. Buy the whole range when that happens. I have two Q900's and the sub, just waiting for the next sale to buy the rest.

          Absolutely no point have a $2500 AMP and sony speakers that don't even use it.

      • g4z on 28/01/2018 - 13:14
        +3

        Bower and Wilkins

      • Jqht on 01/02/2018 - 00:11

        Invest in a decent sound system.
        Bowers & Wilkins MT 60D 5.1 pack will definitely get the job done.
        If you're tight on a budget.
        Get those satellite speakers individually. About 300 each, small but amazing.
        Satellite speaker model is M1.

    • nextdoormaths on 29/01/2018 - 10:38
      +1

      https://imgur.com/a/MdL23

      Got these 50% off, Clef audio South Melbourne

  • 2jzzzz on 26/01/2018 - 18:30
    +13

    I'm no expert, but it seems you could achieve a very comparable system for half that.

    • Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 18:37

      Can you please tell me what?

      • ItsMeAgro on 26/01/2018 - 18:50
        +9

        How much research have you done? You can get some good suggestions about projectors from projectorcentral:

        http://www.projectorcentral.com/best-home-theater-projectors…

        That's a 'best projectors for the money - under 10k USD' list, there's also detailed technical reviews for each.

        • Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 19:13

          Thanks mate I will have a look. But if you have recommendation that would be great

          I'm using it just for movies and ps4

        • MrFunSocks on 27/01/2018 - 21:44
          +7

          @Albtal: if you want the best for a PS4 then I'd skip the projector and get the 65" LG C7 OLED. Can get them for just over $3k now.

        • Agret on 28/01/2018 - 04:35
          +2

          @MrFunSocks: second this suggestion. Projectors are not suitable for gaming.

        • RonDMC on 28/01/2018 - 14:37
          -2

          @Agret: How wrong you are. I've been gaming on a projector for 8 years, nothing more immersive than a 130" screen. I also have a 75" LCD and 55" OLED and would prefer to play on the projector. I only really play twitch shooters so saying projectors are no good for gaming is bs.

        • burns13 on 28/01/2018 - 22:53
          -2

          @MrFunSocks:

          Where to get a 65" C7 for just over 3k

        • Zondor on 29/01/2018 - 15:27
          +5

          @Agret: I've used a projector for gaming for ages, as long as your not a twitch hardcore CSGO player there is no issue.

          TV's can have even worse response times for this.

          Source:
          I've owned an Optima 180x and recently upgraded to a GT1080

        • elektron on 29/01/2018 - 16:45
          +2

          For such a small room, would a large screen TV be a better option?

        • haydio on 30/01/2018 - 20:43
          +2

          @Agret: pfft. I game on my 120" projection just fine.

      • gezza90 on 27/01/2018 - 11:47
        +18

        I spent $1100 for our church hall with 5.1 surround and 1080p projector.
        1. Projector for $700 Epson EB-U130
        2. 20m hdmi cable from eBay for $71 with 10% off (24awg and gold plated connectors)
        3. 60m 14 gauge speaker wire ($72 bunnings)
        4. Logitech z5500 speaker system off gum tree ($250)
        5. 4 port HDMI splitter w/toslink (optical fibre for audio) for $51 off eBay

        It was for a room that was 20m x 20m and set up each speaker at the top corner and sound system sounds amazing with projector. I can hook up my laptop or chrome cast to hdmi splitter and it will show on projector.

        Sure you can get a 4k projector for around $3000-$4000 and you'll still be less than $5k.

        • elektron on 29/01/2018 - 19:02

          Could you elaborate on how exactly are you connecting the Z5500, presumably with the HDMI splitter? I also the Logitech as the bedroom home theatre, but not having HDMI really cramps my style!

        • gezza90 on 29/01/2018 - 19:59
          +3

          @elektron:
          Projector is mounted on the ceiling. Only two cables going into the ceiling and coming down on the side of the wall. That HDMI cable from the projector goes into the 'Output' port on the HDMI splitter. Example of HDMI splitter

          The hdmi splitter will be located next to the z5500 control unit. Connect the optical fibre cable to z5500 control unit and the other end to hdmi splitter. Then connect your laptop or chrome cast to hdmi splitter in the 'input'port of the hdmi splitter.

          It's important to do your research on type of hdmi splitter and projector if the hdmi port is MHL compatible. Hope this help.

        • elektron on 29/01/2018 - 20:28

          @gezza90:

          Thank you, good Sir! I am using the Z5500 with a Panasonic ST60, which doesn't appear to support MHL. Doesn't mean this solution won't work for me? There goes the glimmer of hope you've given me!

        • gezza90 on 29/01/2018 - 20:43
          +3

          @elektron: there's a solution to pretty much anything. I think MHL is for mobile devices but I'm using that port anyways. The HDMI splitter should work for your use case. If you're based in western Sydney, happy to meet up and let you test the splitter.

        • elektron on 30/01/2018 - 11:05

          @gezza90: I think you're right, as I've never had to use MHL for anything before. From memory, this was used to display mobile content on TV's before casting or screen mirroring.

          Thank you very much for the offer but I'm not in Sydney and wouldn't want to impose on your kind nature anyway. I think you've given me plenty of information to put pieces together.

  • 87percent on 26/01/2018 - 18:41
    +31

    Everyone that I know who has a theatre room, it slowly turns into a kids playroom… If you have kids, I would hold off until they're older

    • Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 19:15
      +2

      I do have 1 and she is 1 year old.
      And another coming in 2 months.
      But will be 2 down and 8 to go

      • Banana on 26/01/2018 - 20:51
        +6

        Ours is now a perfect napping room as it is extra dark and extra quiet since we invested a lot into insulation…we also did a raised platform which is a great place to rest your head on :D

    • Unrvl on 30/01/2018 - 09:10

      this is so true! few years ago we moved into our new home, i decided one room for be a theatre room and decked it out. watched maybe 5 movies in it before it got unused, then eventually sold it all and now its a kids playroom!

      • EnALup on 30/01/2018 - 11:38
        +1

        Why did you have theatre room at first place if you didn't like watching movies. If you do like watching, why did the room go unused?
        I have one dedicated room and have been using it for more than 2 years. We watch 2-8 movies a month in it and everyone including kids love it. During parties, it is a perfect place for all kids to go and watch their favourites .

        Summary is, make a theatre room, if you like watching movies. Dont do it for sake of impressing friends, else it will turn out later to be a playroom.

  • Vieira4 on 26/01/2018 - 18:52
    +3

    You will also need a decent fixed projection screen for that PJ. And that receiver demands better speakers.

    I'd go for one of these packages:
    http://www.projectorscreens.com.au/index.php?dispatch=catego…

    Personally I'd go for a jvc 5900 PJ and screen, and direct more cash towards decent speakers and a proper sub.

    • Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 19:14
      +1

      Cheers

    • Dave Id on 26/01/2018 - 21:18
      +1

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Widow_(paint_mix)

    • gezza90 on 27/01/2018 - 11:50

      Or get a professional dark projector paint for $400

  • SBOB on 26/01/2018 - 18:55
    +38

    I'd be downgrading the projector and seriously upgrading the audio….

    Way over capitalising on the projector in terms of the % of budget

    • Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 19:14
      +1

      I will do that for sure

      • SBOB on 26/01/2018 - 20:36
        +8

        when i use to be in that industry a good guide i went by for original planning was split it 50/50 picture/audio

        I would up your speaker setup, likely downgrade that receiver a bit if need be to be able to go better on the speakers

      • Bacons on 29/01/2018 - 00:21
        +2

        Definitely get an SVS subwoofer

      • amaslam on 29/01/2018 - 10:28

        I'd visit a good shop (i.e. Eastwood HiFi in Dural (Sydney based) or equivalent in other cities).

        Second the recommendation here, I'd ditch the projector and get a large screen instead (75" or 84")If you can engineer it, how about leaving a cavity in front of a large TV for a drop down projector screen and bracket for the projector. It's something you can do right now of course but also later in case a large TV just doesn't do it for you from a theater effect standpoint.

        Projector - why SONY?, how about Optoma or other brands? Wouldn't a 3k project provide some great results?

        Ditch the SONY HiFi system and get good speakers (I went all Yamaha and 5.1 worked out to about 2-3k, 7.1 maybe another 1500 max). Spend on the in-wall wiring and HDMI cabling (I mean the labour, good copper but not 'Monster' brand cable).If ATMOS go for a more reasonable ceiling set, I don't think these need to be super pricey either as these add to the ambience/effects but not as important as fronts/center

    • outlander on 26/01/2018 - 19:25
      +6

      +1
      Subwoofer is lacking in a big way on that system.

      I also wonder how much effort/money will be spent on accessories like lighting, chairs, decor, food?
      Given the choice I will hands down choose a more basic system with powerful sound in a place with a nice atmosphere, over a top-of-the-line projector set up in someones garage

    • SBOB on 26/01/2018 - 20:39
      +11

      you can put together a decent system for $15k, if thats the budget he has to work with. Its only a 3x3 room.

      You're suggesting he needs to spend double or he's wasting his time ..which is not correct

      • altomic on 26/01/2018 - 21:39
        +13

        Of course it's not correct.

        $15,000 on a room to watch movies!!!! Ludicrous.

    • gimli on 27/01/2018 - 09:27

      I though $80,000 was the magic figure. :-P

  • p1 ama on 26/01/2018 - 21:26
    +39

    I think with these expensive projects, it's always a good idea to think about what you're trying to achieve.

    Playing games and watching movies are very different activities and it's important to realise that.

    When playing games, a big screen is nice, but too big becomes a disadvantage. I'm not sure if you've even tried to play games on a theatre sized screen. You get dizzy very quickly, it's difficult to concentrate, you have to look around too much and overall, I would say that it's not a pleasant experience. There's a reason why most gamers still prefer 27" monitors. Competitive gamers still use much smaller screens. Many think that a standard 55" or 65" is already too large, let alone a projector setup. On top of that, things like latency and ghosting are always issues with setups designed for movies rather than games. So if you're saying that you'll be using it for games, I doubt you'd have a good experience.

    So that really means that you'll be using your setup for just movies at the end of the day. So the question is if it's worth shelling out $15,000 for watching movies. I've seen some home theatre setups before, whilst they're cool and fun and awesome to setup, I've never found them to be as good as just going to the movies for a $10 ticket or whatever the price is these days. You'll have to be watching a lot of movies for the setup to pay for itself.

    All props to you if it's just a mancave project (like guys and their cars, or computers…etc.), but the value proposition just isn't there and I think you really need to think twice about the gaming aspect.

      • p1 ama on 27/01/2018 - 11:34
        +25

        I'm glad you have a great experience, but easy there with all the hyperbole

        What a load of crap!!! That is so far from the truth it's scary.

        There's plenty of stories online of people suffering from large screen motion sickness when playing games, particularly FPS, on larger screens.

        For example, https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/3rev10/feeling_dizz…

        Don't discount a very real problem out of hand just because you don't have it, better to be aware of the issues then to spend $15,000 only just to find out it's not suitable for you.

        • playswithfire on 27/01/2018 - 14:18
          +1

          A bunch of people get motion sickness from FPS games (this group happens to include my wife) - but it's not limited to big screens - it happens for them no matter what screen size. Other game formats such as 3PS and side scrollers and top-down strategy are perfectly fine. I've had heaps of friends come over and play games on the big screen without a problem - and same goes for our kids.

          Interestingly the OP in that post you linked indicated they needed their glasses prescription checked which is more likely to have been the culprit for this particular case.

        • p1 ama on 28/01/2018 - 16:12

          @playswithfire:

          Well, yes and no. You're right in the sense that it does affect some people more than others, but to say that screen size has nothing to do with it is stretching the truth a little bit.

          When you play games, especially FPS, where you need to have awareness of not just the central part of the screen, but also the periphery, on a bigger screen, you have to move your eyes more, which is partly the culprit of the dizziness. You are right that some people are better at handling it than others, but if you don't believe me in saying that it's a real problem (and mind you, it doesn't happen to me) then try standing very close to your screen then playing. It probably won't be nice.

          For people who are more susceptible to motion sickness, playing at what you would consider normal distances makes them feel like how you would playing much closer to the screen. This is not even mentioning the other benefits of playing on a smaller screen. Our eyes see more detail and are more responsive to things that are close to the centre of our field of vision vs. further away. There's a reason why if you go to competitive e-Sports meets, everyone plays on relatively small screens.

          Again, I really reiterate that I'm not saying this happens to everyone or that it is necessarily a problem for OP. However, it is a problem for some people and it would be wise to at least try to game on a large projector screen before investing in one (something not many people consider) which I don't think is bad advice.

        • playswithfire on 28/01/2018 - 17:32

          @p1 ama:

          try standing very close to your screen then playing. It probably won't be nice.

          Can confirm, it's pretty nasty. Pretty much impossible to play any closer than where the couch is - even putting a beanbag in front of the couch makes it a little too close.

          There's a reason why if you go to competitive e-Sports meets, everyone plays on relatively small screens.

          That's changed since I was last at a competitive e-sports thing - which admittedly was the 90s - but all the best players had massive CRT screens back then. And there was me, stuck with my little 15" Viewsonic screen and struggling to keep up…

        • p1 ama on 28/01/2018 - 22:08

          @playswithfire:

          Can confirm, it's pretty nasty. Pretty much impossible to play any closer than where the couch is - even putting a beanbag in front of the couch makes it a little too close.

          Yep, that's exactly how it feels for someone who has motion sickness - what seems like normal eye movements for us can make them quite dizzy.

          That's changed since I was last at a competitive e-sports thing - which admittedly was the 90s - but all the best players had massive CRT screens back then. And there was me, stuck with my little 15" Viewsonic screen and struggling to keep up…

          Well back then I guess massive CRTs were 19". These days, it looks like 24" 144Hz is the go-to size: https://www.144hzmonitors.com/other/best-cs-go-monitor-what-…

      • Chris12345 on 27/01/2018 - 12:45
        +4

        Have too agree with this. I also have a 100inch projector and it works a treat for gaming. Never been dizzy and infact my eyes tend to strain more looking at a TV.

        • stinkydog on 28/01/2018 - 12:15
          +2

          Same! Love my 112". Never have trouble, bought a cheap w1080st for $1k. We just project it onto the wall, our paint is perfect for projecting.

      • Agret on 28/01/2018 - 04:40

        With projectors it is not the screen size that makes people "dizzy", it's the refresh rate. Projectors have way more input latency and screen ghosting than a regular TV and aren't really suitable for gaming.

        If you want to play games you are far better off going for a really large TV like 65-70", you might "get used to" the blur and latency over time to where it won't bother you as much but once you make the switch to playing on a quality TV it's night and day difference.

        • playswithfire on 28/01/2018 - 08:11
          +5

          Sounds like you're not up to date with current technology.

          Refresh rate is constant 60hz on my projector, and setting it to fast processing mode reduces input lag to 28ms. That's better than many TVs. Gaming is amazing on it.

        • Agret on 28/01/2018 - 11:44
          +1

          @playswithfire: hmm, looks like you are right. I apologise.

          https://i.imgur.com/DU44Thr.jpg

          I guess to get low input lag + 4k HDR from a projector would be a lot more expensive than a large TV at this stage but they are definitely viable for gaming now. I'll have a more open opinion on them now.

        • stinkydog on 28/01/2018 - 12:17

          @playswithfire: which projector do you have? Not that I want a new one, just that one-day I'll buy my brother one!

        • playswithfire on 28/01/2018 - 17:27
          +2

          @stinkydog: Epson EH-TW5600. For the price I paid, it's fantastic :)

      • Savas on 28/01/2018 - 10:47
        +2

        I think you were down voted because you've spend 600 hours playing video games.

        • playswithfire on 28/01/2018 - 11:27
          +5

          My life, my choice to make. Don't really care about downvotes to be quite honest.

          Over the 4 years we've had the projector setup, that's 150hrs per year, so roughly 3 hours per week. Truly an excessive amount of video games! /s

        • stinkydog on 28/01/2018 - 12:19
          +1

          @playswithfire: when you put it that way, I shudder even considering calculating my time playing. Surprised the bulb in mine still works!

        • playswithfire on 28/01/2018 - 17:27
          +2

          @stinkydog: I'm pretty glad the bulbs for these projectors are only $99 :)

    • ItsMeAgro on 27/01/2018 - 14:36
      +3

      you'll be using your setup for just movies at the end of the day

      Yeah sorry, but this is pure fantasy mate. Everyone but you has no issues playing games on their projectors. It's drastically better than a 60 inch screen, even from a couch just 2-3 metres away.

  • pasey25 on 26/01/2018 - 22:47
    +2

    This thread prompted me to price out my current setup so I knew what I’ve spent

    Jvc x7000 $4k second hand with 300 hours
    Denon x4400 $2300 mates rates
    Xbox one s $269
    Xiaomi mi box $75
    Screen Stewart studiotek 130 $1500 second hand

    Dual 10” sonutube diy subs and 800w power amp $1600
    Equinox audio aphelion fronts $5100
    Equinox audio eclipse centre $1450
    Equinox audio surrounds $2900

    Prices up to $8ish for tech and screen and $11k speakers. You could easily dial back the receiver/ speakers. I have a biiig room. Note this is currently only 5.2. I need to spend $1-2k or so on some in ceiling speakers for Atmos.

    I do have other old teck in the rack like a ps3, a hddvd player, iq3 but I didn’t count it. Plus cabling another few hundred I guess.

    So I rekon for that size room I could pull together a $15k system that would be better than 90% of suburban hoyts/village

    • [Deactivated] on 27/01/2018 - 13:04
      +1

      I think your speakers (Inc spacing from wall) would be right next to seating position in a room of OPs size. Haha. You'll need one amazing amp to be able to feather the volume to prevent deafness at that distance.

  • jace88 on 26/01/2018 - 22:51
    +5

    Maybe I'm missing something but a few things jump out at me.

    1. Why do you have the soundbar in there? You have a dedicated receiver and speakers… so not quite sure the point of this in a home theatre room unless you're trying to keep it casual?

    2. You've picked a decent amplifier (I'd probably go a bit cheaper on this if it were me) and put more budget towards getting good speakers and speaker stands/mounts. It's an Atmos compatible receiver yet you want to go down in-ceiling speakers (as opposed to normal freestanding/bookshelf/etc speakers)?

    3. 4k projector at $8k sounds overkill especially for a 3m x 3m room. If it were me I'd just buy a decent 4k TV - 75" or bigger for less than that, potentially even OLED.

    4. I think I saw gaming mentioned above in the comments; do you already have a 4K gaming setup (eg at least PS4 Pro/Xbox One X, or a HTPC/gaming PC which can support 4k)? And whilst I've never used a projector for gaming I can't help but think it would be laggy vs a decent TV? (experts - pls correct me here if I'm wrong).

    5. You did budget for something to sit on too right? And sound insulation/deadening.

    I mean, if you have the cash to blow then go for it, but it just sounds like for $15k, you are buying some expensive pieces which are good, but they may not necessarily work well together to achieve the outcome you want for watching movies/playing games.

  • [Deactivated] on 27/01/2018 - 00:20
    +15

    Home Theatre Room

    my room cost about 2k
    its a TV and a xbox

  • Fergy1987 on 27/01/2018 - 08:19
    +4

    All I can say is B&W Diamond Series speakers……..get!

    • rake on 27/01/2018 - 08:24
      +4

      My dream speakers -> 805!

      • Fergy1987 on 27/01/2018 - 08:29
        +4

        I bought the 685's years ago as my first set of speakers and was like YEAHH!!! these sounds awesome!!….then heard the diamond series at the local hifi shop and walked out with my head down shuffling my feet.

  • PlasticSpaceman on 27/01/2018 - 09:26
    +9

    Wow - 3m by 3m room? You might be able to squeeze in a 130 inch diagonal screen, but let's say it's 120 inch. To view UHD detail, you'd need to sit about 2m or closer away.

    The kicker though, is according to the docs, that projector would only just be able to fill a 16:9 100inch screen in the room you're talking about: diagonal 100” (2.54 m) width/height 2.21 × 1.25 (87 × 49) distance 3.05 – 6.28 (121 – 247)
    http://pro.sony.com.au/pro/attachment/1237495199790
    You also don't really want to be on the 'it can just do it' as chances are you won't get a clean edge on the screen.

    Anyhow, nice stuff, but seems you can do better with that budget. What would I suggest?
    1. Get a big TV and mount that on the wall - less than $8k would get you an 82inch Samsung for example (https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tv-home-entertainment/hd-televisio…). Yep, smaller than 100 inches but then again way better contrast, able to view in normal light, quiet…. and in a room that size, the tv is still going to look enormous. Frankly a 75 inch screen would be plenty big enough, and you can get them for under $3k.
    2. Get a decent receiver and just use cavity wall mounted speakers for some 7.1 goodness. Keeping all the speakers off the floor will help increase the amount of space available in a small room. Cavity mounting them makes it all very neat, although the sound is not quite as good and you have to be careful to avoid vibrations etc. Can even consider a cavity wall mounted subwoofer. If the room has a built in cupboard, can use that to store all the electronics (xbox/ps4/receiver/etc) and control that by a logitech harmony RF remote. Basically, make sure you hide the clutter/cables/etc.
    3. Optionally, spend some extra money on discreet lighting, decoration, seating etc to make it feel more like a theatre.
    4. Optionally, if you later decide you really really need those extra few inches you can always put a drop down screen that comes down from the ceiling right in front of the tv (I've done exactly that in my room). Then you can find a projector with a shorter throw that would be able to fill that screen, and frankly it does not need to be UHD.
    5. Put the money you save on altcoin. (Or you can use it to make tweaks to the room so it can be used for other purposes eg sliding panels to make the tv 'disappear' so it no longer dominates the room, and the room can then also be a guest bedroom if you can squeeze a couch that's also a fold out bed in there…. it can also be a study or reading or music room….. )

    My recommendation out of all the above would be getting the 75 inch tv and install the (biggest one that will fit) motorised screen to drop down in front of it, and get a cheaper 1080p projector that will fill that screen. Plan where those front speakers are going, because you don't want the screen to cover them when it comes down (you can get audio transparent material but it's usually for fixed screens). You will probably find yourself normally watching the tv, but movie nights you'd use the projector.

    Here's a handy group of calculators: https://www.projectorscreen.com/projector-screen-calculators (imperial, but easy to convert to metric)

    • jace88 on 27/01/2018 - 12:32

      I agree with this especially the wall mounting TV bit - it makes a big TV feel even bigger when it's mounted at the right height. Obviously (to the Op), don't do this until you know your seating positions/furniture.

      • kiitos on 27/01/2018 - 19:27

        Didn't realise the optimal height changes depending on the future placement, interesting

        • jace88 on 27/01/2018 - 19:32
          +1

          I originally wrote out how it was explained to me when I was wall mounting my TVs in a previous apartment, but this article explains the different factors much better:

          https://www.houzz.com.au/ideabooks/88991249/list/the-full-pi…

          TL;DR - eye-level matters which depends on your seating (or standing) position and furniture height.

  • berry580 on 27/01/2018 - 09:27
    +1

    I think even a decent oled TV would trump even a great projector especially when the room is only small one, so it defines what's the optimal screen size for your room.

    • ItsMeAgro on 27/01/2018 - 14:42
      +1

      Nah, I have 100 inches in a slightly smaller space, it's not overly large, could easily go 120 or so.

      • berry580 on 28/01/2018 - 12:34

        Depends, it's about the length of the room. Not area size.

  • grizzle on 27/01/2018 - 09:39
    +1

    As others have suggested, I think in a room that size, and used for gaming too, you might be better with a large TV than a projector.

    But if you're keen for a projector, check out AV stores for some package deals. E.g. https://www.digitalcinema.com.au/home-theatre-packages/compl…

    There's plenty there well under your budget, or closer to your budget that should he pretty good.

  • Powderhound303 on 27/01/2018 - 09:46
    +5

    Ok the issue you have is the room. Way too small for a cinema room. Plus you have babies so eventually they will take over the room maybe.

    Seriously for that small room you to buy a 55 oled and 7.1 satellite speaker system plus basic av amp. Save your money.

    If you have a much bigger room…say 4m by 5-6m then you can spend a bit more money and get 65 oled (new lg c8 is coming out), Yamaha av-r3083(same as the av-a3070 and it’s only $1920 on eBay with 20% off sale), subwoofer either martinlogan dynamo 1000w or an SVS 2000 (2 to choose from) speakers their are too many options but check out some website reviews for around $5000 budget. Speaker Cables and USB device cables, oppo 4K player but I don’t you would use it as I download content from web or use a streaming box. Xbox or ps can play ur blue rays and 4K discs I think but who buys discs anymore?

    I currently have an older av system which cost around $20k and I’m upgrading atm. I’d highly recommend going to Eastwood hifi in Sydney as they’re super cheap and you can haggle a little if you buy a lot. Otherwise excel hifi in Melbourne.

  • DiscoJango on 27/01/2018 - 10:02
    +16

    a projector (an $8000 one at that) for a 3x3m room and a crappy el cheapo sound bar???

    sounds like youve gone and got yourself a quote from some harvey norman salesmen my friend

  • playswithfire on 27/01/2018 - 10:57

    Your room is pretty small for such a setup. My room is 3.5m x 5m and we sit 3.6m back from the 100" screen - and that's about perfect.

    110" screen is the screen size we should've gone for that viewing distance. A friend has a 120" screen and his couch is 4m back and it's perfect.

    Definitely consider putting much more into your surround sound setup rather than the projector.

    Once you've spent a few hours playing games on it, you won't ever want to go back to gaming on a small screen again :)

  • inittobinit on 27/01/2018 - 10:59
    +5

    This has to be the worst combination of price to bang for buck ive ever seen.

    65" OLED ($2000-3000)
    Entry-mid range A/V receiver ($500-1000)
    Entry 5.1 speakers ($500-1000)

    Used/on sale PS4 for Bluray ($600 for a bluray player wtf seriously?)

    • MrFunSocks on 27/01/2018 - 21:51
      +3

      PS4 doesn't do 4K Bluray though, could just buy a $250 Xbox One S.

      • BillyG687 on 28/01/2018 - 00:23
        +1

        Xbox One S or Xbox One X are both cheaper than the one OP is listing, and is universally considered to be a solid performer for UHD and HDR blu-ray performance.

        Additionally it supports DTS and Atmos, along with passthrough for the AVR to handle all the audio processing.

        Also, I understand Dolby Vision Support could be on its way too.

  • birdhouse on 27/01/2018 - 11:21

    With that budget and size of the room I would also recommend a TV instead of projector. Quality over size. And then spend a bit more on the audio.

    65 inch oled or qled. If you want a bit bigger then look at the 75inch qled.

    Budget for the amp is good. Could look at marantz.

    https://www.aussiehifi.com.au/products/marantz-sr6012-av-rec…

    With speakers I would spend around 1500-2000 on the fronts and then get the matching brand surrounds and sub. Being a small room you don't need big speakers. Again quality over size.

    You will always change your amp and even the tv in 10 years time but your speakers should last you a lot longer or even forever.

    Ps4 or Xbox for Blu-ray, media box, gaming. Or buy a separate media player of choice.

    Don't forget to budget for cables. Search online for best pricing.

    Then maybe a reclining couch from super a Mart and some beanbags if you can fit them.

  • KLoNe on 27/01/2018 - 11:34
    +4

    Lol. I love how noobs give no regard to audio when designing a home theatre.

    • jace88 on 27/01/2018 - 12:31

      In all fairness he picked an (expensive for what he needs) receiver though.

      I just find the ratio of price between each of the items to be a bit confusing, and hope he budgeted for the stuff which will actually make it a nice place to be as others have mentioned (eg. comfy chairs, lighting, decor, etc).

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