Home Theatre Room

Albtal on 26/01/2018 - 18:16
Last edited 26/01/2018 - 18:53 by 1 other user

Hi All,

I have a room that i want to turn into the theatre room.

The budget is up to 15k.

I will be installing them all.

The room size 3.3m by 3.1m

Projector Sony - $7,999.00

AV-Receiver Yamaha - $2,499.16 with 20% off

Ceiling speakers Sonance VP62R In-Wall Speakers x 2 - $1,298.00

4K BluRay Player Sony - $580.00

Sony - HTRT5 - 5.1CH HOME CINEMA SYSTEM WITH WI-FI/BLUETOOTH - 550W - $999.00

Total cost will be $13,375.16

What do you think and a size of that room would that be too much? if so can you guys let me know other options.

Electrical & Electronics

Comments

- Dave Id on 28/01/2018 - 13:47
  
  The Laser is a handy piece to have. Multizone.
  
  Often available at $79 delivered or $69 C&C.
  
  Remainder might be OK for very young kids who don't know better :)
- Wallyt99 on 28/01/2018 - 17:26
  
  +4
  
  That's a true ozbargain home theatre
  - ItsMeAgro on 29/01/2018 - 10:30
    
    It'd be good for daytime in a well-lit room (not a home theatre room), but my 100" BenQ 1080p projector was cheaper than that Aldi (and way better for film and games).
Cheap Bastard on 28/01/2018 - 13:38

The general rule was of thumb is to spend half your budget on video and the other half on audio. Also, I found my theatre room ended up being a novelty and use the projector only a handful of times a year for movies and games. I prefer the convenience of a nice LCD TV at any time without having to close the blinds and wait for the projector or warm up.
- Dave Id on 28/01/2018 - 13:49
  
  1/3 each on PJ,AVR and speakers.
  Other third :) on BDPlayer, PVR, etc.
ode1online on 28/01/2018 - 13:43

+1

A lot of good advice in the other comments, in short your room is TOO SMALL for a projector. Your Amp and a SOUNDBAR are nonsense.

FYI the RXA3070 and the RXV3083 are the same amp , Check the specs. I bought the RXA3081 for the same reason.

http://www.eastwoodhifi.com.au/yamaha%20rxv3083%20av%20recei…

($1999) is a good price from a long time dealer in HT

Also some factory seconds on Ebay with a 12 month warranty worth a look.
dwillia on 28/01/2018 - 14:21

+4

why are you putting a Home Theatre in your bathroom? 3x3 is 55cm LED and two sonos play 5s max - 4k and you're done!
heartychat on 28/01/2018 - 15:18

+3

Hmmm… that setup for a 3x3 room and with 2 young kids… Can I please buy your complete setup for $5k in 12months time?

It all just seems over spec-ed for the room size, and mis matched for your life stage.
[Deactivated] on 28/01/2018 - 17:51

+2

Am I missing something? - 3.3m by 3.1m is a tiny home theatre room.
- ItsMeAgro on 29/01/2018 - 10:33
  
  +2
  
  Likely it's not a McMansion with a dedicated home theatre room, just a spare bedroom he's using as a home theatre.
  
  It'll work fine as long as he doesn't need to fit a lot of people in there; my 'home theatre' is smaller, just one end of the playroom, and a 100" inch screen is just right. 120" would be fine, even.
  - random110 on 29/01/2018 - 12:35
    
    Hang on, aren't there optimum sitting distances from screens?
    
    I would have thought that the sitting distance from a 100" screen would be more than the depth of his (and your?) room?
    - Dave Id on 29/01/2018 - 17:13
      
      +1
      
      Not really.
      120" "screen" at the foot of my bed is perfect. Bit over 6 feet.
      Mine is 1080p,not "4K".
    - ShortyX on 29/01/2018 - 17:28
      
      @Dave Id: Subjectively perfect. :) I wouldn't like to watch that screen size at just 6 feet away.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNOnb5ZEs2o
    - Dave Id on 29/01/2018 - 23:42
      
      +1
      
      @Stix:
      
      That's your bad luck.
      Having over 60 years AV experience,I can only ROFL at youtube experts.
      Do you have any PJ experience …… rhetorical question ….. the answer is obvious :)
    - ShortyX on 30/01/2018 - 09:07
      
      @Dave Id: Each to their own I guess. 😀 I have a 120” with a viewing distance of 3.6m.
      
      I am interested in your thoughts on the recommended 30-40 degree viewing angle. Wouldn’t most people think that 120” at 6 feet is too close as it’d be like sitting in the front rows at a cinema?
    - Dave Id on 30/01/2018 - 15:16
      
      +1
      
      @Stix:
      
      Lounge room is setup ~ 10 feet.That's with AVR and floor standers all 'round.
      Sometimes,if working on researching a screenplay on a 40" TV as a monitor,might take a break and watch from ~ 80 degrees,with the left rear speaker next to me.
      
      Bedroom,might have a snack and drink off to one side.Maybe 75 degrees.Usually go to the PC for a coffee/beer or food.
      
      Quite happy with both PJ set ups.
      
      As a kid,would happily watch early Cinemascope movies from the third row.
      
      Watched Cinerama's "How the West Was Won" from the front row. Dialogue scenes between two actors were like watching a tennis match. That film ran for 101 weeks at Melbourne's Plaza. Love the Bluray :)
      
      Truth is,due to chronic health problems, I now watch 99% in the bedroom.
      
      Like you say, to each their own.
      
      My apology for being rude,however many comments on this thread are from people with little or no PJ/HT experience.
T1OOO on 28/01/2018 - 18:23

+3

3by3 is too small for a projector man
- Zondor on 30/01/2018 - 17:16
  
  +1
  
  It's about the screen size reflective to sitting distance. I've had a 100" PJ at 3m and it was great.
  - zqipz on 30/01/2018 - 23:46
    
    OP's room is 3m so it'll be closer to 2.3-2.5m, and you do you really want to watch everything that big?
    - Zondor on 31/01/2018 - 11:15
      
      +1
      
      Yes, I've had many people even on the floor in my room watching at that distance and it still looks great.
  - frozenkuku on 31/01/2018 - 19:02
    
    op has 3.1 room, there's no way he can sit at 3.1m unless he is a paper man with paper sofa sticking on the wall
frozenkuku on 28/01/2018 - 20:43

-1

3x3 is a waste for projector, very true
- Zondor on 30/01/2018 - 17:17
  
  +1
  
  It's about the screen size reflective to sitting distance. I've had a 100" PJ at 3m and it was great.
  - frozenkuku on 31/01/2018 - 19:58
    
    +1
    
    my HT room is 6.5 by 7.5, projector mounted on ceiling at around 6m. sitting at 5m, i want to be able to walk behind the couch since I have entire glass display on the back for my movie statues collection.
    
    projected 180'' size, perfect distance, setup atmos 5.1.4.
    a lot people thought it will be too close but after watch it, they all think it's not too big for eyes.
    bigger is better if your projector is capable with that.
yacman on 28/01/2018 - 21:47

Too many people here giving feedback (which is what your after) but if this is what you want and you have the money to do it then go for it, problem is you have not properly considered what it is your doing and how to achieve it.

My opinion is go see some professionals and get some advise, your room is small to achieve what you are after, since your in Melbourne the guys at RIO are great and often have discount packs. Yes we can all be ozBargibners but the reality is some specific places have buying power and you will get a good deal, even if it's roughly the same price, I would still go with them, you get the knowledge and support, they can set it up for you and even do professional tuning.

DONT tell them your budget is $15K though, tell them maybe $10K and what your after, then haggle to closer to $13K if its achievable for what your after, I don't know if you'll be able to get a 4K projector and the sound to match (pointless having 1 without the other IMO) for that price though.

TLDR; tbh you seem like the kind of person that needs the guidance of some experts, if what you posted after doing research is what you come up with, go see some and haggle a good deal.

Please note: I am not associated with RIO can only recommend them, go to the big picture people or others for all I care, but I know RIO are well priced and good knowledge.
muncan on 29/01/2018 - 00:59

I've got a cheap 800x600 BenQ projector mounted in my living room, and thanks to the open plan house it's got a 12 metre throw - giving it just over a 3.5m diagonal projection! But wait for it… the pixels are 3mm wide, and I think the last time I turned it on (going by the cobwebs) was to play Wii Tennis a decade ago. Anyway, don't bother with projectors you'll get more enjoyment from the biggest TV panel you can justify. The heat/noise/cost/bulbs/contrast/wiring/mounting/blahblah just look for the biggest panel you can afford. Then wait a month and get an even bigger one.
- Dave Id on 29/01/2018 - 23:46
  
  +1
  
  Kindly return Moses's PJ to him.
  
  12m throw with 3.5m picture. Gotta be kidding.
  - muncan on 30/01/2018 - 00:16
    
    I look up for guidance I receive VGA
    - Dave Id on 30/01/2018 - 00:35
      
      Still have a Benq 800x600,prolly the last model without HDMI.
      Handy for all the old 4:3 movies and TV shows.
      Brighter than my W1070 and even my Epson TW5300.
      Similar throw ratio.
      Handy bit of kit.
      Price of Benq globes ~ $200 though.
      Bulbs for TW5300 ~ $100,newer TW5600 ~ $50.
dailynotsomail on 29/01/2018 - 07:51

+5

the OP doesn't want advice he wants re-assurance…. 2 seperate things

whoever advised him on the hollywood 7 pack is just motivated by commission not in giving solid advice….

140 inch will not fit and even if it did, its just too big for a circa 3m by 3m room. don't forget you need room for equipment and front speakers, AV etc…

optimal seating distance for 120 inch is 3.6m away from the screen…….. you should be at 90 inch for that room with only 1 row of seating, have the row at 2.7m from the screen which will allow your back speakers to be behind, probably 250mm at best ( ok outcome) and you could position atmos speakers perfectly for 5.1.2 set-up.

$15k is too much for that size and the projector should be circa $5k

at 90 inch you should maybe just look at smaller LED 4k TV instead perhaps.

keep it at no more than 90 inch and row of seating to allow you to sit back a bit and the room should be ok. by 3.1 x 3m you are pushing it for a dedicated theatre room, don't overspend as when selling it most buyers will see it as extra bedroom not a theatre room, so it will not be likely a marketing benefit if its looks all cut in with holes, cabling, screen etc…

ps. I have 120 inch for a room of 5.7m x 4.29m with 2 rows and 5.1.2. big enough, any bigger would kill the room - especially i have cabinetry for the AV etc right of the screen in a tall builtin ( sitting flush with the wall) and front builtin speakers.

good luck……
kezho on 29/01/2018 - 09:33

+2
Probably a bit late and I'm sure most of my points have already been covered, but here are my thoughts from installing a system a few years ago.

Get a much cheaper receiver and spend more on surround speakers - you don't need the extra output from a high end receiver in a small room and the cheaper models still have fantastic sound quality. Denon have some good entry/mid range products that suit a smaller room perfectly (https://www.au.denon.com/au/product/homecinema/avreceiver/av…). As others have said B&W have great speakers - look for older second hand speakers if you don't mind not having the Atmos thing (I would prioritise genuine surround over atmos anyway). Don't sacrifice on speakers and get a decent sub - they will transform any viewing experience

Get a cheaper projector that is more specifically designed for short throw use. Your room dimensions don't suit most projectors (which usually need minimum 4m throw and ideally further), but with a smaller screen (100' probably max), a different projector and decent light blocking you should still get a good image. Also keep in mind that certain projector technologies are better suited to different room styles. If you haven't already, get to a home cinema specialist and try out projectors in different classes to get a feel for how much effort it takes to get decent black levels.

On projection - a fixed screen goes a long way to making the image pop and giving it a proper 'cinema' feel. Not having a screen seems like a waste of decent tech.

Remember to factor in costs of blocking out light which can be expensive. Washed out blacks (a problem gaming on a projecter set up due to such high contrast) completely ruins the experience. Highly recommond installing black velvet curtains if your room has any light walls or a white ceiling - incredibly effective at sucking up bounce light from the screen and increases immersion.

Don't mean to be too negative though - installing a projector setup is very rewarding and watching movies as they are meant to be seen is fantastic!
uccoffee on 29/01/2018 - 09:35

+1

Hi, would you mind tell me where to get this please?
AV-Receiver Yamaha - $2,499.16 with 20% off
ShortyX on 29/01/2018 - 12:45

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/337261 (https://imgur.com/a/nk1KN)

At 3m viewing distance, my suggestion would be a 92"-100" screen - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNOnb5ZEs2o

And with that room size, get a cheaper receiver and just have 5.1 (or 5.1.2 if you want Atmos).
bohn on 29/01/2018 - 12:49

-1

Not that you can do anything about it, but square rooms are not great for a home theatre room.
Not enough being spent on sound, it should be higher percentage.
I would start with quality 2.1 sound if you can't afford a 5.1 now. You can always add later.
bahgain on 29/01/2018 - 15:12

+1

Always prioritize Audio over Video. Not only do a good set of speakers last you a lot longer in terms of being superseded, they are also least susceptible to depreciation. Unlike your projector which will drop 50% a year for the next three years.

I like your amp. Like the comments above, get the B&W 805 diamonds or second hand 805 Signatures.
usbc activist on 29/01/2018 - 16:29

-3

dump the useless projector for a high end TV. Same with the sony. You would be looking at an amazing setup for your home theater
bryce007 on 29/01/2018 - 17:57

+3

I vote 100% for projector. I have a projector setup in my bedroom, similar in size 3.1x3.5m.
I use a BenQ W1070 1080P projector $550 from BenQ refurbished.
Audio: Logitech Z5500D
Media Center: Home Built Kaby Lake Celeron ITX system. Built in 10Bit H265 Decoding :).

In the living room we have a 65" Sony 4K TV and I have also seen the Aldi 65" (yuck) some people are recommending. Both are not as good in the movies as the BenQ projector is. Projector is so much more immersive and everyone that has seen the picture thinks it is 4k. Initially when I purchased it I was worried about sitting so close and only being 1080P, however you see so much more detail than on the smaller 65" and due to it being projected it has that more cinematic analog look to the picture that you don't get on the TVs.

Every time I have been to the cinemas lately I have been very disappointing - I think my home setup is better :)
- bohn on 29/01/2018 - 21:08
  
  +1
  
  glad u enjoy it,
  I envy you if you are happy with those speakers though :)
  - Dave Id on 30/01/2018 - 00:16
    
    +1
    
    Bedroom PJ :)
    I use AKG K712 headphones,despite having a spare Aaron ATS5 set up.
    Great to kick back in bed at night.No worries about annoying the neighbors. :)
    Immersion and detail.
    Haven't gone to the movies for 5 years.Prefer my own Blurays.Usually on the lounge room setup before 10 pm.
    Netflix is handy.
    Watching TV on my PVRs is great.Even the news looks good. Except Donald Trump.Fast forward/skip is handy :)
    Haven't turned on my much loved Hisense 55" for almost 18 months.
    
    PS.Being a cheapskate,prolly purchase Pioneer VSX932 which would be more than adequate for that size room.
    120" picture would allow floor standers to be placed either side.
  - bryce007 on 30/01/2018 - 11:24
    
    +1
    
    I dont see why people are spending so much money on speakers, especially for a 3x3 room…
    In my old house we had a $5k speaker setup that we were upsold when did the lounge / cinema room.
    Sure it was better than the Z5500D, but it was a much bigger room. Since moving we have now broken up the system and used it for our living room and lounge tvs.
    Price per performance I do not think you can beat the Z5500D but you must feed it optical with AC3. They do sound muddy and yuck if using the analog inputs.
    - bohn on 30/01/2018 - 12:56
      
      Just enjoy what you have.
Aussar on 29/01/2018 - 18:14

+1

If Op is hooked on this projector - https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/sony-vpl-vw260es-4k… This seems like a better price, and comes with a bluray player. Honestly, I get by pretty happily with a $600 projector.
pformag on 29/01/2018 - 19:23

+2

Start Here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/5zt8mw/guide_surround…
pformag on 29/01/2018 - 19:36

If you going for $1000 speaker setup, then go for a Klipsch Quintet. But as mentioned above, spend 5K on speakers, and then move down your list.
ozzpete on 30/01/2018 - 00:49

+1

With the $1,700 left over in your 15k budget,
hire someone on airtasker to serve popcorn, snacks, drinks etc :)
Powershopz on 30/01/2018 - 07:29

+1

That's an extremely small room for a theater room. Our lounge room TV area is 4.5m x 5.5m and we just have a 65" LCD + speaker setup.

I'd skip the projector and go for a 65-80" wall mounted tv over the projector.
vinni9284 on 30/01/2018 - 08:14

+1

I can see that many people are commenting that the size of the room is too small for a projector.

I would like to ask these people:

1 - Do you have a similar sized room with a projector? (or even do you have a projector?)

If not then really, you cannot give advice as you have not experienced this!

2 - If so then move the projector closer to the wall hence reduces the size of the screen.

I have a slightly bigger room 4.5 x 4m and have a projector and can say that it is awesome!

I have an OLED, LED, 4K TV's and a FHD Projector and you can't beat the size of the screen and viewing area of a Projector. Period!

You won't look back.
- bahgain on 30/01/2018 - 09:02
  
  Your room is 25% bigger. 3.3m by 3.1m is like sitting in the back seat of a car watching the windscreen.
  - vinni9284 on 30/01/2018 - 09:40
    
    +1
    
    Ok. Do you have a room similar to the OP with a projector?
  - Zondor on 30/01/2018 - 17:18
    
    It's about the screen size reflective to sitting distance. I've had a 100" PJ at 3m and it was great.
- Duram on 31/01/2018 - 11:20
  
  Yeah this x 100.
  
  I have 3800 x 3460 not a huge room but good enough for me, I've spent a bit on speakers, sound a screen and the works. So I am sitting .4 further then OP on a 100 inch screen and its fine, for SOME games I feel I am too close to check some stuff but usually its fine.
  
  I think people are just mad and think everyone should buy a 50Iinch hisense and use bluetooth headphones for sound.
  
  Any time I've been to the cinemas since then I've thought for one reason or another 'id rather be at home', no idiots, no babies, can take a break at any point I love it.
- frozenkuku on 13/02/2018 - 11:45
  
  3.3m by 3.1m and 4.5 x 4m is big difference mate
  the sitting and throw distance is not comparable.
  - vinni9284 on 13/02/2018 - 11:47
    
    Well then, move the projector closer to the wall hence the image will get smaller
    Problem solved!
mobius on 30/01/2018 - 09:45

+2

Put that $15k into shares and take your family out to the movies.
ATangk on 30/01/2018 - 13:28

+1

I can't find any comments on this but:

Since this is for a theatre, movies are best watched in cool conditions. Have you got any cooling for the room?
Ryballs on 30/01/2018 - 14:10

In my opinion your room size is not optimal for a projector. Instead I'd buy a 65" OLED and wall mount it. Much higher picture quality and better for gaming.

This 65" Panasonic OLED is probably the best deal currently @ $3598 (RRP $6399): https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/356579

For the speakers I'd visit a local specialist like Clef Hi-Fi. I hear they do pretty good deals if buying a package from them.

Firstly I'd go with a 5.1 receiver (7.1/atmos is overkill for the size of your room): http://clefhifi.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&pro…

This B&W 5.1 speaker package also looks decent, but have a listen to a few before making up your mind: http://clefhifi.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=50&pro…

They also sell OPPO blu-ray players there too which are supposed to be the best: http://clefhifi.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22&pro…

The above package will be cheaper than the ones you've been looking at but with much higher picture/sound quality and more appropriate for the dimensions of your room.
- Zondor on 30/01/2018 - 17:19
  
  TV's have much higher input lag than projectors, I've gamed on mine for years without issues.
  - Ryballs on 30/01/2018 - 17:33
    
    As far as I'm aware it's generally the other way around, with projectors having more lag than a TV.
    
    From what I've read online the Sony projector that OP mentions has exceptionally low input lag for a projector and that has still been measured at around 36ms @ 4K. Whereas the Panasonic OLED is around 26ms @ 4K, which is considerably lower. Most 4K projectors have 50ms+ input lag.
    
    Then you have the problem of not having the entire screen in your field of view. I sometimes have that problem on a large TV, I could only imagine what it would be like on a 100" screen.
    - vinni9284 on 30/01/2018 - 17:56
      
      +1
      
      That's that thing. You state that you can only imagine would it would be like with a 100" screen.
      
      Well to answer this as you have not experience it, I have a room a little larger than the OP with a ~ 110" Screen and it is fantastic.
      
      There are too many people on this thread that have never had a projector, separate HT room (or both) that are looking at calculations and their gut feeling and saying it is too small.
      
      Well, I have also a 55" OLED TV in another room and I can tell you that the gaming and movie experience on the projector is a lot more rewarding rather than squinting on a 55" TV that has great blacks.
      
      Earlier this year I went to a Gold class cinema to watch a movie and IMO, my own HT experience was better (I mean the image quality of my own projector) However my PJ is not projecting 400+" to be fair.
      
      Go to every reputable AV/HT/Hifi seller and you will see that they have HT rooms always with a projector. There is a reason for this. Captivate the experience on a big screen! Wow factor
      
      Cheers
    - Ryballs on 30/01/2018 - 17:59
      
      @vinni9284: Actually I have had a projector in the past and gamed on it, just not recently. Unfortunately I can't remember the screen size but it was fairly big. While it was okay for some games, I did not like using it for others.
      
      The input lag was noticeable to me and with FPS in particular I like to see the whole screen without turning my head. Maybe if I tried a more modern projector it would change my opinion, but I doubt it. To each their own I guess.
      
      I will probably still buy another projector one day because I like watching movies on them.. I just won't be playing FPS on it.
    - vinni9284 on 30/01/2018 - 18:08
      
      @Ryballs:
      
      OK. Fair enough.
      
      I have 2 PJ's, the BenQ W1070 and an Epson 9200W
      
      The BenQ is in my HT room and run XBox1 / Movies etc and it is fantastic in FHD. The motion is quick and handles gaming very well. I only neg is that it has a slight rainbow effect if you move your head abruptly.
      
      The Epson is for my main living area and use if for a TV every day. I have also gamed on it and I can say that this PJ has the best blacks and 3D.
      
      The LG OLED is in my other room for 4K gaming (as I am not going to spend $8K on a 4K projector with limitations. The Sony the OP is after has limitations - as it is entry level native 4K)
      
      When I switch from the OLED to the PJ's the experience on the PJ is better. However the image quality of the OLED is better considering it is only 55" & 4K But the PJ's are still very good.
      
      I agree with you. To each to their own.
      
      Cheers
Joshman5k on 30/01/2018 - 22:13

I'd be spending a lot more on your speakers than other equipment such as the receiver and the projector. A good set of 5.1 speakers will last you 20 years or more. My set I bought 10 years ago have no sign of slowing down. I would go to your local hifi shop and audition some of their 5.1 setups. I would be looking for a set which have a good floor standing Left and right, with matching center speaker.
frigit on 30/01/2018 - 22:24

As mentioned, the room is too small. Better off with a 75" tv and lower your specs on the amp.
I have a 120"screen with a Sanyo PLZ3000 projector in a 5.5m x 4.5m room and it's perfect.
noise36 on 30/01/2018 - 23:04

Epic waste of money on a junk system.

You could spend half that and build a better overall experience.
zqipz on 30/01/2018 - 23:43

Yes, your room is too small for a projector. You won't even be able to fit much seating in it.
You get an amp/speakers OR a 5.1 soundbar, not both.

Consider if you want to mount speakers on your walls or not.
Ceiling speakers are clean. Use wall plates. Hide cables behind walls. Hang tvs etc.

I have a room 4.2 long x 3.6 wide, mainly used for PS4 gaming, some kids streaming youtube and occasional movies.
- 65" Samsung 7000 2016 ($1950)
- 5 x Krix Atmospherix A20 in the ceiling ($2500)
- Denon Amp AVR3313 (it's a few years old now) ($1500)
- + borrowed Yamaha Sub ($800) til I get some SVS.
= $6,750 or $7,450 with the SVS Subs.
+ TV Unit / Couch / Ottoman
+ Harmony Elite Remote / PS4 / Networking / Cabling / Switch / USB Hub etc
= another $5,000
I pieced it together over a couple years (starting with amp)
It's excellent for my room size, you shouldn't need to spend anymore especially with a smaller room.

In your case, most likely a spare bedroom. Get a 65", a decent soundbar with rears and that's it spend $4000 done.
- vinni9284 on 31/01/2018 - 07:35
  
  Your TV is too small for your room.
  
  If you slap a 100" PJ & screen, you'll have a different outlook. 100" to 65" is a big difference. Noted that the Samsung KS7000 is a great 4K TV and has great nit levels. But it is capturing experience on a 100" screen will be better.
  
  Many of these newer PJ's has low input lag and can handle gaming well.
  
  A sound-bar is too gutless and would be a waste of money. Ceiling speakers are good for Atmos and surrounds. You need at least 3.1 at the fronts (Floorstanding & centre + sub)
  
  Tbh, even your Denon and the OPs RXA1070 are gutless. Sorry. You need at least a 2nd highest level receiver (Denon X4400H/6000 or Yamaha RXA2070) .. and still that is questionable. The good thing about these receivers is that is has RCA Pre-outs to add dedicated amps.
  
  You have a good setup at its time however it is now too old (the receiver) and not really a good comparison with what the OP is after.
  
  Going by your setup, you still want to spend another $1000 on top for an SVS-PB1000 (I assume this is the sub) hence your room is still not complete and willing to spend even more to enhance.
  
  Don't forget, the OP quoted a "true" native Sony 4K PJ which in itself is nearly $8K that is half of the cost of the Hollywood Pack. Plus cabling, installation & delivery is in that quote holistically.
  
  Many ppl can say it is a rip off however it is subjective.
  
  OP has to have a receiver that accepts the passthrough 4K 60p 4:4:4/ HDCP2.2/HDMI 2.0/ Atmos/DTX/HDR10/BT2020/D-Vision and has the latest codecs and have a late complete system without upgrading for a few years I assume.
  
  Many ppl here are looking at the cost rather than what he/she is getting.
  
  His room is perfect for this setup ~ 115" screen) as the OP will be close to the 4K image and capture the resolution as it is.
  
  If the image is too big for the wall then MOVE the projector forward and focus. The image will get smaller Simple!
  
  Many of these new PJ's a vertical and horizontal shift so the image can be displayed perfect on every wall positioning. They have high lumens now so if you have a white coloured wall, you don't even need a screen! Save another $1000.
  
  The good thing about a PJ, the kids can't damage the screen with their interactive gaming and then render their $3K TV useless. Then they'll try to flog it off on Gumtree damaged for $50 :-)
  
  Cheers
  - zqipz on 31/01/2018 - 22:51
    
    Appreciate the comments… rarely do I get to talk home theatre tech. Honestly, the tv and size is fine for what I use it for, gaming, which is my primary use. That Denon was the the best of the range at the time of purchase. Unfortunately I'm well aware of how quick these are superseded due to the resolutions of the TV. I'm more into my audio and I mostly game (so headphones/mic a fair bit) and I have a kid, so big sound is not my priority. Quality sound is. Which it currently does very well. The Denon has 4K capability but I haven't tried it, I just stream direct thru the TV from NAS, and is the reason I didn't get a PS4 Pro (which goes thru the amp).
    
    Plan is for 2 SVS1000s over a single 2000.
    Reasoning
    
    I agree OP is quoting specs and wants… but realistically it's just a spare bedroom, not a dedicated theatre room. I'm only suggesting OP doesn't need to spend the money due to the room type, rather than it being a waster of money. I tend to go for a more practical and flexible solution than a dedicated theatre room solution. Like if you just wanted to watch the news, it's pretty overkill.
k3nnis on 31/01/2018 - 12:47

Hi Guys,

I will add my 2 cents. I have both a projector and 2 X Tv's.

JVC X35 Projector 1080P 3D
Panasonic VT60 55" Plasma
Samsung MU6100 75" LED

I have the panasonic upstairs in the leisure area, sitting around 3m from screen. Looks tiny.
I have the samsung 75" in the family area on ground floor sitting around 3.1m away and looks OK. Will look big at first but after a few days it will look normal.
Now I have the projector in a dedicated HT room. Dark gray walls but white ceiling and dark grey carper flooring. And block out curtain in the rear. My room is 4m X 3.3m. Have a 110" 16:9 screen in there. Sitting around 3.3m away. Looks about right. Would like 120" but my throw distance is my enemy with the JVC. I have people come over and say the JVC's 1080P picture looks as good as 4K lol. Maybe it's the size of the screen. It's a totally different experience. I don't game on the projector, only movies and tv shows. I just play games on the 75" Samsung.

Thanks,
K.
Make it so on 31/01/2018 - 14:00

That is a very small room for so much gear. Forget about a normal projector, as it won't have enough distance. I would consider a short-throw laser projector, like the Xiaomi one.

I wouldn't spend too much on powerful audio, and focus on quality. In such a small room, the accoustics are horrible anyway - the interference between speakers will be quite bad.
- vinni9284 on 31/01/2018 - 14:03
  
  How would you know if the Acoustics are horrible? Have you got a similar setup or not?
  
  It seems that too many people here are copying/pasting comments regarding that the room is too small and not suffice for a Projector considering they don't have a similar setup.
  - Make it so on 31/01/2018 - 14:12
    
    How would you know if the Acoustics are horrible?
    
    Experience with putting heaps of audio in a small room, and knowledge of physics, specifically wave propagation and interference.
    
    not suffice for a Projector considering they don't have a similar setup.
    
    I own a projector, which needs 4m throw for a 120" diagonal picture. 4 > 3.3
    - vinni9284 on 31/01/2018 - 14:16
      
      Well I have a very powerful system in a room similar to OP however slightly larger and it sounds fantastic. It's all about speaker placement and type of equipment you use.
      
      Well your room seems a little larger than the OP so not sure why you are suggesting that a normal projector is not suffice.
      
      What make and model is your PJ?
    - Make it so on 31/01/2018 - 16:32
      
      @vinni9284:
      
      Well your room seems a little larger than the OP so not sure why you are suggesting that a normal projector is not suffice.
      
      Because if the projector needs to be 4 metres from the screen for a 120" picture, a 3.3m room is not big enough.
      My projector is a cheap Vivibright GP100. I use it outside, not inside.
      
      Yes, speaker placement and type is extremely important. I am just not sure you will ever get an ideal sound worth $1000's in a small room like that. You would have to ensure there is a lot of cushioning around to avoid excess interference. Fairly sure if you put a powerful sub in there, the sound will be very distorted.
    - vinni9284 on 31/01/2018 - 21:20
      
      +1
      
      @Make it so:
      
      I see where you are coming from re: 120" size however the OP can reduce the size by moving the projector closer to suit his room as it is smaller. As I have written on earlier posts, the OP can go to 100 - 120" to suit.
      
      Yes, I do get fantastic sounds from my room and it is not even treated. No distortions whatsoever. I do use an expensive DAC, separates, XLR connectors, respectable speakers and subwoofers. That is even cranking the music at really high volumes. The subwoofers I use are very fast response and musical Class AB amps with the high level speakon connectors & LFE for HT. I am not sure as my setup can be from luck LOL.
      
      My definition of high volume is when you can hear music across the street as decent listening volume considering my HT room is in the middle of the house and only the front door is open with the security door closed. Thank god I have great neighbours!
      
      However sound quality and experience is subjective and I could say that owning many different receivers, separates, going into the showrooms at Hifi joints etc .. comparing them … that my gear sounds pretty good.
      
      Cheers
Justaddgrum on 31/01/2018 - 19:28

Well and truly overkill.

I have a similar room size and have a 65" tv which is perfect for me. At most i would go 75". I have't looked at the specs of that projector but would assume it needs a considerable throw distances.?.

Seriously consider reading up more on audio gear. i recommend
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/
and
https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater/

for info.

With more research you could achieve MUCH better results for a more realistic price.

I personally think you have overshot it with the receiver, ceiling speakers, projector. And if i were you i would get a PS4 or something over a dedicated bluray player. And for the love of all that is holy, don't go near that Sony speaker kit…
- vinni9284 on 31/01/2018 - 21:27
  
  +1
  
  Trust me. If you go 100 - 110" screen with a projector you will relocate your 65" TV LOL and wont look back.
  
  There is one poster about 7 threads (k3nnis) above has a similar experience and setup.
  
  Have a read of his comment.
  
  His gear is not an overshot. Please have a look what type of equipment the OP has been quoted.
  
  You probably referring to a PS4 Pro and not a PS4 to playback bluray 4K. Even if so but the PS4 Pro doesn't support Dolby Vision like XB1X does. (if that is important to the OP) Having said this, they don't compare the sound quality vs the Oppo.
  
  Cheers
  - Justaddgrum on 01/02/2018 - 13:19
    
    The point i was trying to make with the projector is that his room isn't big enough imo. The image will likely be projected over his speakers, and equipment unless he chooses a pulldown projector screen over the speakers.
    
    My room size is pretty much the same and my original intent was a projector, but i am glad i didn't go down that road in this house (later in life i would love to have a massive theater room). I put sound quality over a massive screen, and considering how large 65" is, when i set my self to the recommended viewing distance by THQ, it was way too close and we had to move the seating back. If i had a 100" screen in the same room i would be regretting it, because i cannot move my couches back any further.
    
    With tight spaces like this, speaker placement also becomes an issue also. I initially had my seating and speaker placement as close to this diagram as i could https://i.imgur.com/lJyQTs8.png But due to room size it wasn't completely possible.
    
    Edit: Also yeah i didn't consider 4K content in my original post;
    - vinni9284 on 01/02/2018 - 16:53
      
      The great thing about a Projector is that the screen size is not fixed.
      
      You can move the PJ forward towards the wall until the image size reduces/fits to the size that you're happy with.
      
      You can place the speaker approximate to the diagram however it is not mandatory. That is just a guide. If there are some interference with other hardware, then you can decide how many speakers/subwoofers that you can add/place.
      
      I guess this is subjective.
      
      The OP was talking about a 4K package hence the price hike. However, closer the distance with a 4K image is better.
      If the OP was talking about a FHD package, I'm sure the quote would be slashed by half.
      
      Each to their own
      
      Cheers
caleb2003 on 09/02/2018 - 00:06

I have a similar sized room as a media room but done on a shoestring compared.

We have an old 40"lcd that is on one side with an Xbox one attached and in front of where we mainly sit we have a retractable projector screen (bought on Ebay) with a Benq 1080p projector (2nd hand but with plenty of hours life left) this is connected to a Minix box as a media player and a 2nd hand Sony Mu-te-ki Amp and speaker set.

I realise this may horrify the Audiophiles but it works fine for us and cost peanuts and we can always add better components as they appear on Ozbargain.

I would note though that although I can easily switch the HDMI for the projector to the Xbox, we use the TV as the xbox games on that size screen a little too fuzzy and just a lot sharper on the telly, I guess it means I do need a new projector but I'm waiting for the ultra short throw laser Xiaomis to drop in price.
- k3nnis on 13/02/2018 - 17:19
  
  how big is your projector screen?
  
  Also is the xiaomi much better than the benq?

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