How Much Do You Spend on Public Transport?

Hi,
I'm from Queensland and my partner and I catch the train to and from work daily. We calculated how much we spent on Public transport last year and it comes to a staggering ~$6K! That's $60K in 10 years! The train line we catch is pretty poor with trains consistently running late and overcrowded quite consistently.

Given that public transport prices are only going to increase every year, it would be cheaper for us to buy a new car (say, less than $25K) and drive to work everyday, assuming we keep the car for over 5 years. The government wants to reduce the number of cars on the roada, but how do they expect to do this with such ridiculous prices.

How much do you spend on public transport?

Comments

  • +3

    $0 currently as I drive and have free parking.

    However when I was studying at University years ago I was putting in around $800-$1k per year for bus travel.

    • +1

      how much does the car cost compared?

      • +2

        Significantly more. I can't really compare as I'm no longer a Uni student and drive 200km+ a week. Fuel is paid by employer with an allowance for maintenance.

        • Is it a salary sacrificed fleet car?

        • @abuch47: Nope it's a personal car.

        • @Clear: Thats a decent setup Ive not heard of before. Probably the best of both worlds. salary sacrifice would be nice but they normally force you to upgrade every few years and so your taking the big hits of the inherent car depreciation.

        • +1

          @abuch47: Very common around these parts. I'm not currently located in a major city with a very good employer that looks after everyone.

  • +8

    ~$800 on trains (uni student fares)

    Every train line in Sydney is late and overcrowded.

    The consideration for every Sydney car driver is

    1) How bad is the traffic? Does it take longer to drive or catch the train?
    2) Where do you park? If you work in the city parking is very difficult and expensive.

    Also depending on what car you get the rego/insurance fees aren't cheap. I spend almost $2k in just rego/CTP/TPP car insurance each year for a standard sedan.

    • How did you calculate ~$800 on a concession transport?

      • +7

        I have my Opal (transport card) statements from last year

    • +5

      Name checks out.

    • +1

      So you reckon everyone who catch the public transport aren't alright?

    • +16

      I 100% agree that our public transport is nasty as it gets.

      But, it doesn't need to be if it's taken seriously.

      Public transport in central Europe is fantastic.

      We should learn a bit from them.

      Personally I think public transport should be free in Australia. It's going to be a net win for every car we swap each day for 1 or 2 additional passengers on a bus/train/tram (think infrastructure, pollution, productivity (reduced traffic congestion, efficiencies, etc), fuel/car saving redirected into (possibly) productive parts of our economy, etc.

      It's a false economy to discourage anyone from choosing public transport over driving themselves.

      If the vast majority of us then used public transport it would get to the scale required to be awesome.

      • +1

        If public transport is already packed in the morning rush, how do you think the system will handle more people taking it?

        • +8

          It's called scaling.

          Public transport is crowded because we have very little public transport and supporting infrastructure. This will need to change and would be a net positive for everyone.

          As for the converse argument, our roads are already full and unable to handle peak loads.

          I'm tipping that it'll be easier to handle more commuters on public transport than putting another car on the road for each new commuter.

          Public transport is able to scale, personal transport not as much.

  • +35

    $0, own a bicycle and no public transport where I live.

    Your consideration of buying a car does not include insurance, rego, servicing, repairs, parking and petrol. Make sure you include these elements in any future cost benifit analysis. Having said that, car also provides many benefits such as weekends away.

    • +15

      Glad someone raised this - comparing $6K/yr vs "let's buy a $25K car and use it for 5 years" doesn't come close to the real cost of vehicle ownership.

      Since you're in Queensland, check out the PDF on
      https://www.racq.com.au/cars-and-driving/cars/owning-and-mai…

      It's a year old, some assumptions may be off (YMMV, literally) and there's potential resale value
      but "$30K for 5 years" barely covers any of the 'micro class' and the 'small class' that sell for the $25K you mention are around $40k to run over 5 years.

      Add in some parking, varying insurance costs and the unexpected that may arise with a car and the numbers aren't so simple.

      • +10

        I'm a uni student. My car was $400 (small, early 90's sedan), cost about $750 to get it roadworthy and a whole lot of TLC on my part to get it presentable.

        My rego is $600 a year, tyres probably average out to about $100 a year and maintenance $300-400 a year. insurance Is about $250, 3rd party only. I'd say I spend about $25 on petrol a week.

        Total cost per year is about $2600 p/y and thats with EXTREMELY conservative maintenance extras. If anything more than a standard service is required that number can double. And this is pretty much the absolute cheapest possible set up. I can't conceive of any way to get this to a lower price point. Essentially it costs $7.10 every day just to have it in the garage (I probably only drive 3~ a week).

        I don't believe public transport is a viable replacement though as anywhere other than metro Melbourne between 7am and 7pm is basically inaccessible and (without concession prices) is (profanity) expensive.

        Frankly, there is no best way of getting around. They're all horribly flawed options.

      • Feeling depressed after working out how much I pay for my car, nearly double what the OP pays. I wish we had public transport here.

    • +7

      i Also calculate into cycling:

      Savings/benefits

      • Exercise. Can replace a gym membership, or other forms of exerciseWhere equipment is required. It’s pretty much enforced too, rather than putting it off, you have to do it. Plus it’s a great way to start the day. I found I was way more productive at work after cycling in.
      • Time: No need to find extra time for the gym or another form of exercise. Far quicker than driving and about the same time as public transport
      • Social: again a time saving, cyclists I find make friendships fast and you’re seeing your mates quite often if you’re commuting in a group.
      • Showers: Use your work’s expensive hot water! But you’ll need one at home on the return trip anyway.

      Costs/negatives

      • Equipment: Can add up if you get into it. Or start getting competitive and racing. Plus there are certain items you don’t want to skimp on, get a good set of bright lights front and back. Spend a lot of money on your tyres (same goes for cars too) and replace them often. Don’t get cheap ones with less grip.
      • insurance: Everyone should have public liability cover at a minimum. I personally wouldn’t bother insuring any equipment though, unless it was free/cheap with home and contents insurance. Check and see if your home and contents includes it, otherwise get membership to your state cycling org.
      • food: you find yourself eating a lot more.
      • cleaning: I kept my work clothes at work and dry cleaned them, only taking in socks n undies. You don’t have to do it this way, it worked well for me, but these costs can add up.
      • convenience: I’ll admit there is something nice about just having your car there. Or if it starts really raining etc
      • Good points although with time YMMV. When I lived 2km from my work it was a ~10 minute trip (mostly sitting in traffic) vs ~30 mins on PT (also mostly sitting in traffic), but back out in the burbs ~25kms it is closer to an hour, which is a bit slower than PT.

      • +2

        Out of curiosity:
        How far do you cycle each day to-from work?
        What would you think is the upper limit of how far someone should cycle to work?

        • +1

          I used to ride religiously to Brisbane CBD 5 days a week (rain, hail or shine). It was 20km each way and it takes me 45 minutes each way.
          Very manageable and luckily we have end of trip facilities.
          I since move job to Southside of Brisbane and my commute becomes 35km and 80 minutes each way.
          I reckon it's still manageable if the commute profile is flat but unfortunately there are several hills along the way (500 metres elevation each way).
          So I figure anything below 1 hour each way is manageable.

        • I ride 26km one way, so around 50km round trip, relatively flat and separated from traffic. Wish I had an excuse to ride more, so the longer the commute the better.

          As for limit, really depends on fitness, time, terrain, and how much someone loves to ride.

          If fitness is a problem, there are some great E-bikes on coming into the market.

  • +16

    $0, i cycle everywhere. i save money now + minimise my medical costs in the future. win win!

    • @mtg - good work there and a plus for you.

      I'm assuming you're a male so please keep the below in mind:

      http://www.executivestyle.com.au/erectile-dysfunction-study-…

      • +21

        No kids, save even more!!

      • +1

        "In general, when compared to swimmers and runners, cyclists' sexual and urinary health was comparable, although some cyclists were more prone to urethral strictures," the study found.

        Reading that article it sounds like as long as you're comfortable / not numb there's nothing to worry about.

    • +6

      Except you run a higher risk of getting hit by cars on the road… medical risks may be more that of financial gain. No matter who’s at fault - car vs cyclist, the rider unfortunately gets the bad end of the deal.

      • -6

        The poor motorist that accidentally hits them will probably pay for that with insurance or otherwise.

        • Yeah but who’s the one laying in hospital, going through pain, rehab etc, possible loss of work/income?

  • +10

    $1500 for an annual myki for all modes in Melbourne metro area.

    • +1

      Out of interest, do you have a myki pass (yearly) or myki commuter club?

      • +3

        I have a PTUA Commuter Club 365-day Myki pass. $1,540 + $50 membership = $1,590 for zone 1+2:

        I started getting them a few years ago because they were the best value for someone who usually uses it five days a week, even if you take a few weeks off during the year.

      • +1

        Same as PBA, I use PTUA. I bought mine for 2018 in November so paid last years prices. Technically it'll catch up to me, but I count it as a further discount.

        I have only started using them recently when I went back to my credit card transactions and realised I was paying more with 30~ day passes and also spending a lot of time calculating which days for it to be active (ie to save money over long weekend or holidays). Turned out I was paying more than the full yearly.

      • Myki pass yearly, cost about $90 more. btw, i use PTUA as well and have car sitting in car port Monday to Friday.

  • +1

    Yearly myki, what is it? Like $1500 a year?
    Are QLD prices really that high for trains??

    • +1

      Potentially not metro area. Bendigo/Ballarat may see a similar price to what OP is saying.

      Edit: Bendigo is $14 per day for 70-325 days so that's over $4,500 a year.

    • +1

      NSW ****s got rid of their yearly fare options :( From memory, it was a good 25% off vs a weekly fare back in the day

      • They are sucking every single money from us and there is no outrage from us. Every year, fare increment, less trains, and in case you miss to tap, because they have open platforms, you pay 280+ penalty.

  • +23

    You are not taking into account petrol, registration, insurance, parking fees, servicing. Driving in peak hour is also a lot more stressful than sitting in a train looking at OzBargain deals.

    • Yes I included that and IMO it still works out to be cheaper. For example: If I purchase a new car at $20K (Kia Cerato is on sale at the moment), I estimate that I would spend no more than $3K per year in fuel, parking, Rego, Insurance, etc

      Over 10 years, that's $30K+$20K=$50K. That's $10K less than what I would spend on public transport. And of course, I can still sell the car for whatever it is worth at the time and save even more money.

      • +1

        Are you using a Go Card to save as much as possible?

        How many zones are you travelling over?

        How many kilometres is the journey by road?

      • +3

        I don't think $3K per year is right. Rego is about $600-$1000 per year. Petrol is around 50-70c/km. Say work is 10km away. That's $10-$14 a day, say you drive half as much on weekends. That's $60-$84 a week, times 52 weeks is around $3120-$4300 a year. If you only drive 5km to work that's still $1560-$2150 a year. Then there's insurance - that will be around $1000 a year. And parking. That's about $10 a working day if you don't have free parking at your work. $50 a week times say 48 working weeks, that's $2400 a year.

        Low end (only 5km to work and more efficient car and free parking at work) you're looking at 600+1560+1000=3160 minimum. Higher end 1000+4300+1000+2400=8700

        You're way better off with public transport always, assuming you don't need the convenience (eg if you're about to have a baby it you have elderly relatives you might have to get to quickly, you would need a car). Plus, public transport is more pleasant (read a book or listen to music or snooze instead of stressful driving)

        • +16

          Agree with the approach, although you way overestimate the cost of petrol.

          Even if the car did 10L/100km (which is pretty poor fuel economy) at $1.50 a litre that's 15c/km

        • +1

          I think you have over estimated the costs for some. For example, Comprehensive Insurance with NRMA for a new Kia Cerato costs approximately $450 per year. Of course, if you own a car already (which I do), these are costs that you will pay for irrespective of if you use it for work.

        • -2

          @lazybones1987
          @Shadowsfury:
          You're both right, costs are over-estimated, so maybe 3K per year is reasonable (assuming no car accidents etc). I know I would always prefer public transport wherever possible though (as long as it takes 50% longer or less). Even if you have to stand the whole way you can close your eyes and daydream or listen to music.

    • +9

      Some of the things you mention aren't quite valid though - most people who take the train probably have a car sitting at home in their garage, so stuff like registration and insurance are already sunk costs.

      Also, when you're catching trains during peak hour, it's not exactly like you can sit down, have a good time and look at deals. Whenever I've caught the morning train, I've found myself standing, cramped and hardly able to move let alone be comfortable. As someone who has driven in peak hour extensively and also caught public transport for a long time, I still think that driving in peak hour is a lot more comfortable than standing on an overcrowded train. Realistically, driving in peak hour is only stressful if you only do it once in a while and aren't used to it - when you face it every day, it just becomes a fact of life.

    • +5

      i would take peak hour traffic over a train. I would rather sniff (and appreciate) my own farts as to the general publics

    • Rego CTP, and insurance are sunk cost. If you have a car, you would pay these cost regardless of driving to work.

    • Driving in peak hour is also a lot more stressful than sitting in a train looking at OzBargain deals.

      You can't argue with that!

  • +4

    $0, I moved closer to work so now I just walk.

  • Feels like I top up $20 about once a month. I do have concession.

  • I spend $1.47 for at least 2 hours of travel on Melbourne's Zone 2 buses and trains. A day of travel would be no more than $2.94. If I wanted to travel further to the city for example it would cost $4.30 per day. These are concession rates. Full fare rates are twice that.

    If I were to commute each day to the city the full fare to the city and back would be $1,683.50 for 365 days.

    If I had a car I would be spending $35 a week for the car just to sit there doing nothing plus about 10 cents per kilometre. Public transport is always cheaper no matter how I figure it out.

  • +4

    $95/month by bus. I get off the bus one stop early as then it is the minimum fare (otherwise it would be $134 per month).
    With all the traffic lights the bus has to go through it's less than a minute slower to walk that last stop than to travel by bus and I get some bonus exercise in as well.

  • +10

    If you voted for Liberal or Labour you believed the ludicrous notion that profit seeking private enterprises would deliver cheap, comfortable public transport better than the non-profit seeking government.

    You really only have yourself to blame for believing neoliberalist idiocy created to take your money so the wealthy get wealthier. I hope you feel stupid, no offense intended.

    Now, are you going to make the stupid decision again and vote for either of these entities again?

    They play a game where they argue over small points of differences and advertise this as a reason to vote for them while behind the scenes both Labour and Liberal take political donations and carry out the bidding of their non-elected cashcows.

    Over 60% of all political donations come from entities that donate the same amount to both parties. In other words, it really doesn't matter which you vote for, they work for the same unelected cashcow masters.

    Do not put these pigs back into power by voting for them. That would be stupid.

    • +18

      If you voted for Liberal or Labour

      You often start with this. I'd love to know your favoured alternative.

      (Leave pigs out of it - they don't deserve that slur.)

    • An assumption underlying your post is that public transport is a high enough priority compared to other policies to be able to sway a voter.

      E.g. if we take your notion that Labor & Liberal are no good on Public Transport Policies and instead wanted to vote for a party we thought had good policies in this area we might pick the Greens.

      However then we would be voting for a party that believes in open borders & Marxism, continually runs down other people in the community and the nation itself and would require a huge increase in taxation (out of our pay-packets) to support its empty ideals. Beyond that the Greens don't even represent a party of the environment any more because there is no greater harm to the environment that mass immigration from low per capita carbon economies to high per capita that they vociferously support (on top of all the other environmental & other ills that come from over-population).

      Are there good third party candidates out there? I think so (checkout Sustainable Australia https://www.sustainableaustralia.org.au/ if you want a better alternative to the Greens) but vote on a total policy suite not a single item.

  • 3k per person seems a lot of money per annum, I presume you travel a fair distance to work as local fares aren’t anywhere near that high. We spend hardly anything, we are walking distance to the city.

    • +4

      in qld that's cheap. try commuting from the GC to brisbane

      • every day, in every way I'm grateful I live where I do in Melbourne. The weather might not be as nice but everything is on my doorstep.

        • Everything is on my doorstep in Brisbane as well ?

        • @cycleops: rhetorical question?

        • @try2bhelpful: Just wondering why living in Melbourne where "weather might not be as nice" was related to having everything on your doorstep ? Doesn't it depend where you live in every city, bad weather or not ?

        • @cycleops: Melbourne does extremes of cold and hot, which can be challenging, but the plus is I don't have to travel far to get to places I want to be so my transport costs are lower.

        • @try2bhelpful: oh right…I thought you were saying that is something achievable in Melbourne more than the other cities.

        • @cycleops: Maybe a little bit of that as well :) Just spent a weekend in Sydney and, whilst it is beautiful, it made me miss my Melbourne cafes and restaurants.

  • $320 every 2 months, not including fuel costs etc to drive to the station

  • $1,500 Sydney

  • +10

    To be honest, if you want to get to work cheaply and economically, the best way to do it is by motorbike. Fuel usage is hardly existent, you get through peak hour traffic much more quickly and (at least in Melbourne, anyway), you can park on the walkway for free as long as you're not obstructing anything. You could literally get to work and back 20km from the CBD for less than a coffee per day. Not to mention they're very cheap to buy as well.

    • Not to mention you might have a better chance of using that expensive health and life insurances. Motor bike riders are vulnerable. Even if you ride defensively, which weaving through traffic isn’t, a collision with another vehicle is much worse for the rider. Before getting a motorcycle imagine your loved ones getting that call.

      • +6

        I agree , peak hour is very dangerous on a bike,
        and I know it looks more dangerous , but filtering through traffic is less likely to get you killed than sitting patiently and being rear-ended.
        More fatalities from being crushed between cars .

      • +3

        But you're saying that without any facts.

        Here are some numbers in Victoria - http://www.tac.vic.gov.au/road-safety/statistics/summaries/m…

        The key numbers are:

        1) In 2016, there were 291 road fatalities, of which 56 were motorcyclists.
        2) 9% of license holders also had a motorcycle license

        So essentially, there are 10 times as many cars as motorbikes, and there are 5 times as many car accidents. So the chance of being in a fatal accident on a bike vs. a car is only twice as high. Sometimes it is made out to be as if it is 20 times higher.

        Secondly, here are some more interesting numbers:

        1) 46% of lives were lost on roads sign posted at 100km/h or more (i.e. fast speed, not peak hour style traffic)
        2) 27% of deaths were single vehicle (i.e. nothing to do with cars)
        3) 32% of deaths were overtaking or head-on crashes (i.e. reckless riding)

        Of course, there is no doubt that a bike is more dangerous than a car. It would be lunacy to argue otherwise. However, where and how you ride is the biggest factor in what happens. The number of riders I see just doing absolutely idiotic things is quite high, cutting off drivers, appearing out of nowhere…etc.

        • Fact - I took that phone call when my brother was killed by a taxi going through a give way sign. It was not a high speed zone, it was not a single vehicle accident and he was not riding recklessly. The taxi went through a give way sign straight into the path of my brother; he had no where to go. My family, myself included, have been in a number of car accidents over the years, and none of us had any serious injuries - this was my brothers only accident on his motor cycle. No matter how you slice it you are much more vulnerable on a motor bike than a car. The emergency services people call motor bike riders organ donors, and that is exactly what my brother became. As I said, everytime you get on the bike imagine your family getting that call.

        • +13

          @try2bhelpful: I completely understand your point of view, and I'm terribly sorry for your loss. Of course, I sympathise with yourself and everyone who has lost their lives in tragic accidents. I said before that I agree with you - that you are indeed much more vulnerable on a bike than in a car. However, I think it is also important that people make their decisions based on the numbers rather than on anecdotal stories. Remember that for every death on our roads, millions of people arrive at their destination safely every year.

        • @p1 ama: Your choice and I hope your family never has to take that call.

    • +2

      I live in an area that's still very close to the cbd.
      I'm in Brisbane just like the OP.
      By bus, it's $6.50/day x 5 days = 32.50 pw.
      The wife also needs to take public transport every now due to rostering. So every couple of weeks, it may cost her $40pw to get to work.

      With the scooter that I'd bought - $3990 incl. on-road costs (anticipated lifespan - 10 years)
      rego 6m included in above cost - should be about $258
      = 3990 - 258 / 10 / 52 = $7.18 per week over 10 years anticipated.

      Anticipated yearly rego costs: $480 = 480/52= 9.23 pw.
      You can add some sort of yearly increase at the yearly cash rate but I cbf.

      Riding jacket = $300 - give it an 8yr anticipated lifespan = 300/8/52 = 0.72 - I can probably extend this longer.
      Helmet = $500 - 5yr anticipated lifespan = 500/5/52= $1.92pw
      Aldi motorcycle gloves = $40 - 3yr anticipated lifespan = 40/3/52 = 0.26
      fuel - approx $8.00 pw - I've got this on the high side. It's usually
      servicing: $160 - 300 per year = $3.00 - $5.75 pw

      Yearly comprehensive motor insurance (with genuine parts replacement): $351 = $6.75pw
      Probably going to drop this after the 3rd or 4th yr back to third party. In which case it's usually 90-110 p.a = $2.12pw
      Weekly costs for the scooter = $33.95

      I'd technically be slightly better off with going public transport, but I save about 15min each way taking the scooter.
      There are variables each way that would make either pub transport or the scooter more favourable.
      I also don't have to cope with smelly bus passengers, and I have less exposure cold/flu germs during the peak seasons.

      The last thing, which is not really quantifiable - riding is just plain fun. It is much more fun than public transport and I'm more awake and refreshed when I walk into work as a result.

      • +2

        Yep! Not to mention that if you need to go shopping on the weekend or visit family…etc. then it works out to be even more cheaper because all of your sunk costs are not being amortised over more trips. What a lot of people aren't taking into account is that even if they take PT, they often will need a car/bike…etc. for other purposes anyway.

        • It's great for going to southbank, west end, milton, paddington etc. No real need to find a proper car park, no parking fees, no bus/train/taxi/uber fees.

          In addition, it's a quick ride to either of the rocklea or west end farmers markets for those sweet sweet savings. I only really have the car in case work needs me to drive somewhere, or if I want to do trips during the end of the year. I'm almost tempted to sell the car and just rely on a go-get or hertz vehicle for the daily usage.

  • +7

    PT will always be cheaper than car ownership. If you're looking to save cash by buying a car, forget about it.

  • $300 / month living in Brisbane and catching train or bus to and from city.

  • Usually under $30 per week on PT in brisbane and live 9km out in kedron. People always seem to complain about costs but coming from london i think the PT is pretty good considering. And new underground to bne coming in few years.
    I work at home 1 day a week which helps keep cost bit lower

    • your 5th day half price / after the 8th trips

  • The cap on the Opal card in NSW is about $61 per week which is not bad considering I get the bus for about 15mins then train for 1h20m each way 5 days a week.

  • +4

    Nil for me.

    I bought an e-bike to make my commute a breeze without even cracking a sweat! It's also now quicker for me to ride in versus driving in and walking the 10 mins to get free parking like I used to.

    I had to bypass the speed limiter on the bike though to unleash its full potential. Max speed is now 50km/h, previously it was only 25km/h - the maximum legal limit for e-bikes……which is way too slow.

    • +1

      I did this for a little bit. Felt uneasy with it. What if I had an accident / I’d definitely be seen as the at fault party regardless of the situation. Insurance wouldn’t cover me.

      I wouldn’t recommend to others unless they also like living on the wild side, haha

  • +5

    I refuse to pay for a myki card so I never catch public transport. I don't pay for a car either. I ride a bicycle into the city each day (20km each way). Saves on gym membership too. No such thing as a traffic jam ever. Best way to get around a crowded city

  • I'm in Sydney and travel by bus/train to/from work daily (40km round trip), cost is a bit under $30 per week using the Opal system, so approx $1500 per year.

    Significantly cheaper than a cheap car that would end up costing around $250+ a week taking into account purchase cost or loan repayments, rego, insurance, maintenance, fuel, tolls. Not to mention the hassle of being stuck in traffic, plus parking being a big issue and potentially having to pay for parking on some days.

    For my route by car, just road tolls alone would cost me $32.26 PER DAY. To avoid the tolls would add 30-45 mins to my journey. Road tolls cost most of my colleagues who come to work by car between $400-$600 per month, depending on where they live. Road tolls are quite outrageous in Sydney..

    So public transport is a about 10x cheaper and very convenient, so it's no contest. I also shift my working hours slightly to avoid the peaks and the buses and trains are never crowded and very comfortable to ride on.

    • +1

      Well the tolls are there to discourage people from driving, yet lots of people continue to do so.

      • +1

        The tolls are there for profit. The toll companies will lobby for higher public transport fares.

  • -1

    If you spend so much on public transpirt maybe u should consider getting your travel card surgically implanted like this guy in Sydney

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&obje…

  • Where's the poll?
    I spend roughly around $20 a week. I auto-top up my Opal card because most of the time the machines are out of order, or refuse to work for me so not sure exactly but around that ballpark.

    I also catch a bus to/from the station so no need to factor in petrol. 25 min trip - compare $1.30 for bus (after discount for transfer onto train) versus petrol will get maybe a litre for that much?

  • i do around $10 a day from my place in the western suburbs of brisbane to the CBD

  • +1

    NSW OPAL. About $45 per week. So up to $2340 a year.

  • -5

    whenever i need pt, i use a school aged sibling's card. costs about $1 a day.

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