Has anybody had experience hiring unarmed bodyguards in India. I like to know how you manage to contact them.
Also cost involved in hiring for 5 day
Hiring Personal Bodyguards in India, Specifically Bangalore
sunnyc on 23/04/2018 - 19:27
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I believe 'infestation' is the more appropriate terminology.
@goodspeler: one of the highest because in comparative terms, the rate of reporting is higher. In Australia, victims gets protected and gets sympathy generally. In less developed countries, in many cases rape victim gets blamed, gets ignore, don’t get taken seriously, etc, thus report rate in those countries are lower.
There might be higher report rate of rape in AU than India, that doesn’t necessarily mean ladies are safer in Australia and India.
@TheOtherLeft: Isn't it a bit too much of exaggeration? Do you mean to say that all 1.25 billion people in the country are not welcoming? Leave aside following similar culture, they don't even look same, nor do they speak the same language or eat the same food. Ignorance has to have a limit.
Do you think that our Western culture is more civilised, respectful and welcoming? Is that why our elders have to live in nursing homes, our people marry multiple times, our families are full of step kids, our society is more prone to drugs and mental problems, we don't speak to even our neighbours, our food is raw and distasteful, our festivals are fewer and lame(r), we never welcome uninvited guests, we take appointment to visit even our own family members, etc? All of these are very much part of culture. India (and many other countries) fares much better in these and numerous other aspects of 'culture' that you are referring to. Do our people with 'great' culture help the strangers or visitors on roads or in public transport? They don't even talk or smile, forget helping.
Give me a break mate. You should experience the culture first-hand and compare it with ours before commenting negatively about any.
@MissG: You're not a feminist if you think it's ok for the husband to decide where his wife is permitted to travel…
Though in this case I'd imagine they just misspoke and didn't actually mean they'd forbid their wife from going, just try and persuade them not to.
@virhlpool: Yes I have been to India and yes, I would say Western culture is objectively better.
If you prefer Indian culture though good for you. The world is made of individuals and we don't all have to think the same.
(And obviously this is a generalisation, there's no such thing as "Indian culture" just like there's no such thing as "Western culture").
@callum9999: Yes I did not interpret that as a draconian "I'm going to chain my wife up and stop her from going" statement. It's too easy to get all riled up over semantics for the sake of proving a point, the Internet is full of it - so I chose to take that statement in the spirit that it was intended. I'd say the same thing if I thought my husband was going into a dangerous situation, I'm sure he'd say the same about me, but we both know it has nothing to do with feminism or sexism (as much as hardliners in either direction might disagree for their own purposes).
This doesn't wash with me at all for two reasons. First of all, rape of non-white women and children is a problem in India - I've been following the protests and reading about the issues after that Indian physiotherapy student was gang raped and murdered on a bus. Secondly - I think the porn thing is a convenient excuse for bad behaviour and a general cultural entitlement to women. It's not like Indian men watch porn to the exclusion of all other Western television. They'd have to watch no Western TV shows and watch no movies for that to be true - there are plenty of cinematic examples of women in Western film and TV that aren't pornographic. They know the difference between right and wrong.
Good points, but rape of women anywhere is a problem, not just in India, singling out a country because of a news article is hardly an accurate portrayal of the manner in which an entire country treats its women.
Based on your logic, women should be worried about walking the streets in Australia given Australia has one of the highest rates of REPORTED sexual assault in the world (92 per 100,000 according to the UN).
Porn is not an excuse, but it is a huge objectification of women, which can then create unrealistic expectations of sex for many uninformed/uneducated men. We're talking about a $100 billion dollar revenue industry, easily bigger than any other type of media industry (heck both Bollywood and Hollywood combined have revenue less than porn). Not to say men who watch porn will want to go out and rape women (in fact it might even do the opposite), but it definitely can create the wrong first impression for impressionable Indian youths and their view of Western women.
@goodspeler: I'm not singling out India, I'm discussing it in context of the topic posted - of course sexual assault is a problem everywhere, but we're not talking about everywhere.
My point is simply that the attitude of Indian men towards white women cannot solely be attributed to porn, I don't disagree it plays it's part, but I'm suggesting that part is just another convenient excuse used by people who do indeed know the difference between right and wrong, no matter how impressionable. Just that entitlement overrides it.
@MissG: Yes, without looking too far into the reasons of the rape incidences in India, it is obviously a cultural phenomenon. Cultural as far as class discrimination, misogynistic attitudes with ineffective and corrupt Police officials etc.
You were obviously not commenting earlier on a single news article at all; most of us have read of many cases of sexual assaults against women and children in India. Have also been informed that some such assaults are actually metered out as punishment for some perceived offence by a family member against another family. Reporting such offences in India leaves most abused women wishing they had not. Doing so often results in further abuse, confinement or worse still.
Promising to read that some of the protests in India are trying to turn the tide against the rape culture in India. We can only wish them every success in these ventures. I have no intentions of travelling in India at any time in the future, but if I did, would insist on a strong security presence.
@goodspeler: there’s porn almost everything in this world, it doesn’t explain why some country’s rape problem is bigger than others.
But poor enforcement of related laws, sexist attitude toward rape victims, etc etc does.
Trying to even imply Australia has a bigger rape problem than India by pointing out AU has a higher reported rate from statistic is just an insult to my intelligence. You can save that for ur Indian government propaganda.
@JediJan: Didn't you read abt sexual assaults against children and women in Australia? Does it mean that female visitors from other countries should carry security guards on our roads and alleys which have no human population (and often street lights too) after it gets dark to save them from the maniacs, drug-addicts, wine-drunkards, junkies, rogue teenagers/party-goers and homeless? Who knows, they can assault the weaker humanbeings and we have proofs that they often do. At least on Indian roads and in their bazaars there are always people around (till late night) to help if something goes wrong, sheer due to much higher density living that their cities have.
@virhlpool:
Ridiculous argument; no one in this forum is suggesting Australia is 100% safe. Everyone has to take precautions for their own personal safety. I have warned young Euro tourists against hitching rides in remote areas of Aus, although they insisted it is so very safe here.One thing stands out in the latter part of your argument "… always people around to help if something goes wrong…" (in India). Perhaps you should refresh your memory on that young student (boyfriend assaulted also) who was subjected to gang and object rape by passengers on a bus … driven in busy city streets. Killed and dumped. No one came to their aid. The Police were disinterested too. Why? So much for "people around to help."
who was subjected to gang and object rape by passengers on a bus
Read the news again, rather than making up stories. The rape was committed by the bus staff and not the passengers.
No one came to their aid.
Maybe because the bus was not "in service" and it was a bit late at night.
The Police were disinterested too.
Another misinformed comment.
Following is from the wikipedia…
"Police had found and arrested some suspects within 24 hours of the crime."
@homersimpson:
Since you referred to the Wikipedia article perhaps others may like to read their version:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Delhi_gang_rape
I also read another article about the problems boyfriend endured in trying to obtain some assistance. Perhaps Google / Wiki that too.
@JediJan:
Hope you do realise the mistakes in your earlier comment. Also, the her male friend wasn't her boyfriend.@homersimpson:
People can easily do their own research and read the (info you suggested) link for themselves.
Open boob
Hire a translator. Should be more than enough in Bangalore.
Call Rajnikanth.
Enthiran is sooo good
Forgot to say, it’s for my misses and I’m not there.
Honestly I know a lot of people would disagree but I would be heavily suggesting for my girlfriend not to go personally.
Or if she did go, I would be showing her as much Indian sexual harassment videos as possible so she could fully understand what happens.
Being in a group won't really change anything if she's white and there are no men in the group.
have to agree with this. be assertive about this and stop her from going. why on earth would you let your misses go to a third world country by herself. Indian food, culture, etc are great but its simply not safe.
Clarification - India is not a 3rd world country anymore. It is a developing country.
@ozzyoi: a new world to describe the same condition. majority of indians still live in poverty. India is developing but a large majority remain poor.
Please stop spreading false information.
https://www.adb.org/countries/india/poverty
21.9% is not considered majority by any means.
@homersimpson: in absolute terms ok. that is still ~200 million people living under $2 a day. Is there a sprawling middle class in india? Yes. Are there big corporations and very rich people? Yes. A major societal issue in india is wealth disparity.
Is it that hard to accept india isn't a safe nation to visit if your are a lone female going to rural areas?
Is it that hard to accept india isn't a safe nation to visit if your are a lone female going to rural areas?
But OP's wife is going to Bangalore - which is not a rural area AFAIK.
@bigmanlukaku:
No denying it is a bit dangerous, but a bit of common sense is all that's needed to stay safe.@homersimpson: Common sense isn't too common you see, unfortunately. When we are hearing talks of hiring bodyguards.. can't stop my laugh though I know it's a serious issue but media makes it look a bit too serious. lol..
I was in Bangalore 3 weeks ago with my wife, primarily for the airport to connect our holiday segments (Aurangabad to Mysore). I can’t advise on bodyguards, but we had no issues as a couple in our late 50s travelling around India. We had a car and driver, so we didn’t have to walk the streets looking for shops, restaurants, taxis, etc. However, my daughter in her late 20s went to Goa 3 years ago and she was constantly harassed by men, even while holding hands with her boyfriend. Leering, commenting and grabbing.
In the 5 or so weeks we’ve spent in India, Bangalore stands out as the place I wouldn’t go back to. It’s a big, dusty, dirty city with horrendous traffic. Pretty much every car is covered in dents and scratches, testimony to the driving style of this city of 18M. As an IT hub I expected it to have a more modern western feel … it didn’t.
My missus has also been offered work in the Punjab (English examining). The employer provides transport from airport to hotel, advises staff to only eat in their hotel, and not go outside the hotel except as a group.
Yea, things have a changed a lot in India. It used to be a peaceful place but now they call it rape capital of the world for a reason.
18M
Holy Cow!
what is 18m?
18 million people
indeed they are.
Thank you for getting my Dad joke
i understood that reference
We have spent a lot of time in India, and a fair bit in Bangalore though I'm male. You don't say if she's traveling a lot - locally or interstate - as this affects the plan. If there's a fair bit of travel, as someone mentioned, a driver hired by the day for every day will be 99% effective, even unarmed. They actually consider their passenger's safety in all ways to be their responsibility. If not traveling outside Bangalore, hire a tour guide on a daily rate for the duration (unless this visit is for more than say a month). Believe it or not, male or female will be equally effective. All the usual precautions are a good idea as well, but with a 'local' in tow, with local language, contacts and knowledge of the no-go-at-certain-times details, it should be a safe trip. Bangalore is pretty dirty, dusty, messy and noisy. But there is plenty to see and do. Lalbagh Botanical Garden is clean and safe and Cafe Coffee Day chain is not cheap, but has good coffee (v. average food). This is from our diary: 'Traffic and driving as chaotic as we remember anywhere in India, possibly more so, though hardly a cow or ox cart in sight. The streets are swarming with cars, bikes, pedestrians and tuk tuks. The footpaths in Bangalore are known to be some of the worst in India, and we hope they are as they are quite dangerous, buried in rubble or non-existent! Matteo cafe serves us well with v. good espresso - an unexpected luxury!' We had a 'walking tour, and that was fabulous too 'Our guide Mansoor Ali, from Bengaluru by Foot, (architect by day, when not skiving off for this greater passion - proven by the fact our 2-hour tour took about 3 1/2 hours)'. It's 700 Rupees or so per person, but likely a lot cheaper for a longer duration, and say 8 or 9 hours a day. Summary: if your lady friend is not repelled in any way, as some are, by all that is India, she should have a great and safe time. We are Anglo-Australian for generations, and love India.
You will need to be more specific with your needs, but not on this forum.
Think about whether you just need personal protection of whether you need someone trained in evasive driving, counter surveillance etc.
Also do they meet you on arrival and put you safely on the plane home or do they meet you somewhere in the city?
How many people do you need protection for and are there physical assets that you need protecting, (cash, jewelry, documents).
Your top guys are former special forces and your bottom rung are the wannabes who have done the equivalent of a Cert III in Security and think they are Jason Bourne.
This is your top choice and I can recommend them:
https://www.unityresourcesgroup.com/index.php/services/secur…
These guys may be worth a try, but I don't have personal knowledge of how good they are:
https://www.sulekha.com/ngv-security-systems-pvt-ltd-r-t-nag…I'm only looking for personal bodyguards, to lookout for men trying to take advantage of a mid 20 female.
Those are the links I have provided!
I now think he simply doesn't want his missus hooking up with someone else and will pay someone to sniff around for him!!
Bryan Mills, is that you?
If it was payton I would find you and I would kill you.
good luck
hangs up phone
Some of the photos of the security officers on this page made me laugh so hard I think I broke a rib lol:
https://www.sulekha.com/ngv-security-systems-pvt-ltd-r-t-nag…
My 4 year old daughter could bring down the guys in pictures 7 and 9 haha!
I used to be involved in the organisation of martial arts conventions that attracted practitioners from all over the world. The Indians would demonstrate arts such as Kalaripayattu, possibly the oldest martial art in the world, Chumattadi, a very impressive art effective against multiple attackers and Shaolin kung fu, which has its origins in India. The guys who came along looked just like the guys in those photographs.
Looks like you can go to this link and organise a call back. But you might have to do while in India as you need a local number. I am sure they would speak english.
https://www.sulekha.com/personal-bodyguard-services/bangalor…As above….
Trust me your missus will be better off without a guard. She may attract attention if walking with "men in black". If you must then only get a armed one ex-army. Or change her tickets to visit Pakistan, a safer alternative. My sister did a tour of Pakistan 2 years ago including Northern areas near Afghan border and found it super safe, she said local people were always there to look after her and her family. She said people were very thankful to them for choosing their country for tourism. She highly recommended Pakistan to me.
its for work. nobody is going to approach her with 4 men in black
Man!!! are you kidding me! 4 men! Don't even do that! Seriously, I suggest you go with her! See the situation yourself. Imagine coming out of airport with 4 body guards, good luck reaching hotel safely. These people sit outside airports to track tourists. don't get her extra attention. If you can, go with her. 1000s of tourists go there and come home safely. Don't send her alone with a body guard! I wouldn't!
Hi Sunny, I sent you a private message. please reply.
cheers.How do you know those 4 (or even 1) won't be the opportunists themselves?
Won't her work sort this out then? My Wife just went to PNG for work, and they provided a driver and a security detail for her, and a secured house in a compound for the week she was there. There are security firms who specialise in this stuff, her employer should make the arrangements given they are sending her there, otherwise you just wouldnt go…
If it really is that dangerous to send a single white female to Bangalore without a security detail, its kind of akin to a tradie working at unsafe heights without the employer providing a safety harness, right?
Tour of Afghan borders? Is she a minesweeper fan?
Let me warn you, you cannot trust a stranger body guard with your young missus. He may tip off his friends about her whereabouts or may stage her up, I have seen in movies.
Your family will be fine without any guards in south india.
Why not take a cattle prodder? Not only resembles a big stick but can deliver a healthy dose of (electronic) respect towards anyone invading your personal space in a very sexist community. They think nothing of striking a lower caste with sticks and you need something to defend yoyrself with. Could hardly be classified as a deadly weapon. I think I want one now!
Get in contact with Goa police and ask for Singham, he might be up for some private work!
Examples of his work - doesn't look like he is one to mess with.
https://youtu.be/En_8UgGZXio
https://youtu.be/ttBacY3QaYM
Just wear a cow mask. Nobody will come near you. True story.
The cow is revered deeply in India.Else wear a shirt with a pic of the tyrant modi on it. Again nobody will harm you.
I don't think hiring bodyguards will solve the problem. If she is travelling for work, it is up to the employer to make sure that they are safe and make some arrangements to keep them safe. If you could, I would ask you to go with her at least for a short time. Banglore is a crowded city but it is much safer when compared to the other cities. I am from India and I have friends and family living in Banglore. My advice for travelling is that when travelling in a group, always travel in a group. If you are worried , contact the consulate and seek their advice. And maybe if you could find friendly locals, they would be of great help
the work organisers organised a 3 star hotel, I don't think they understand how to make proper arrangements. For anybody the Minimum hotel arrangements should be 4 stars unless there are no four stars available in the vicinity.
My advice for travelling is that when travelling in a group, always travel in a group.
Sound advice.
I would say don't even think about travelling alone when you are travelling in a group!
Your inherent issue will be: how can you trust the bodyguard and his contacts??
And some crim may think she’s super rich and could take the bodyguard on…
No.
You are going to a country where the ratio of rapists and sexual predators is high. There will always be a risk. But it could be worse… she could be going to Delhi or Haryana!
Go with her, stick to popular areas and those near nice hotels, dress to blend in (and modestly), carry pepper spray and never travel at night.
Well I hope I can trust the security company. Their reputation is on the line. Criminals can take on the bodyguards, theres at least 2 bodyguards and a group of men travelling with the group.
I'm not going, I can barely survive a Chinese Airport, I probably wouldn't even make it out of the airport.
theres at least 2 bodyguards and a group of men travelling with the group.
Then why even make this thread?
Bangalore pandhis
Bangalore is ok.Best night life city in india. Avoid crowded markets or local 3 wheelers. Stick to a rental car with driver and arrange the driver to be with the group all the time just as a safe measure.
You can just use OLA.
Please don't let your wife to go alone:
This is a very recent accident just happened:
https://www.ndtv.com/kerala-news/family-of-lithuanian-touris…
https://www.deccanherald.com/national/liga-skromene-case-fam…
https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/news/india/lithuanian-to…Not alone, as a group but yeah. I was trying to convince her to go on holiday instead of this work trip to any country in the world. She considered it but wouldn't budge
Wow… is this real? I thought the media has blown up the rape problems in India, but it seems to be pretty terrible there.
So any single ladies here survived India before? (i.e. backpacking solo?)
Ive travelled through India twice, once with gf and the other time with two female backpacker friends (both trips roughly a month). stayed in cheapest accommodation and never had an issue or saw/heard anything concerning.
The western media… infected by leftists… Exaggerate the problems in another culture!? LOL. If anything it would be the other way around… they'd be hiding and excusing it.
Lmao Indian bodyguard, reminds me of an Indian top grossing movie called "Bali Bali something" ……make sure one that has the name "kapata"
Just shout his name when you are in trouble and he will come flying.
Tell her to shave her head, get a dark tan and wear mens clothes. She'll be fine then.
Yeah, I don't think you can convince that on anyone even some men.
Yeah a lot of men prefer women's clothes
i wonder which man can't be convince not to shave their head, get a dark tan and wear men's clothes… hmm..
That's not really that extreme. My brother, who did a fair bit of backpacking around the World in his 20s, would agree. On his return I hardly recognised him for his tanned skin and scruffy clothing. He said wearing nice clothes in India would have set him up as a tourist target. India and Nepal being the final leg of his travels, he had sent his good clothing on ahead. He said all the tourists and backpackers came down with dysentery, vegetarian or not. Was not impressed with the state of the cities but said the remote, country areas (especially Nepal) were quite nice. Unbeknownest to him a "friend" had set him up with the promise of a dinner, to visit parents of a young girl for marriage purposes in Nepal!
TIL I don't want to go to India. Add that to my list with America then..
america is pretty safe.
@OzzyOzbourne: +1'd