Unfortunately Malaysia Airlines remains on this list - it doesnt look like Mh370 will ever be found. Also bad reviews all round regarding its cost cutting measures.
Which are the airlines you wont fly which serve Australia?
Airlines Servicing Australia I Won't Fly
NotAnAudiophile on 12/05/2018 - 21:05
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That's just what happens with these electronics when the smoke gets out.
But we have to go back @tomsco! We have to go back!
Never had a problem with SQ, occasional ones with QF, but still use them if SQ is not practical.
Cebu is ok, but a bit painful at times.
Haven't had a Virgin flight on time, so tend not to bother with them.
Won't get on a plane that comes from or stops in the Middle East.Malaysian I had flown with a number of times, also no problems.
Scoot I haven't tried - their times aren't suitable. As much as I like Singapore & Changi, a 22 hour break between flights is a touch too much.
I won't fly Malaysian after their two lost flights. I won't fly Tiger after it has had multiple groundings on safety violations. I won't fly any Chinese airline after what my friend who worked at Rolls Royce in Hong Kong told me about their adherence to service schedules, and cracked turbine blades.
I won't fly Qantas because of their CEO
You mean one of the few executives that was a relentless advocate for gay marriage, and who went from poverty to being a CEO. Seems like the sorta bloke we should be proud of in many repects.
I understand we all have our opinions…
Is it his place to use an airline he represents as a mouthpiece for his own views though? His job is to make sure Qantas is profitable, safe and reputable, why do we even know his opinion on the matter? It’s great that he supports it, but why do I know that he does?
@KMeister: Literally has nothing to do with gay marriage and how it relates to an airlines operation.
What's wrong with your sense of humour?
@KMeister: the best thing a corporation can do in terms of Corporate Social Responsibility is to concentrate on their own operations and make sure they are as friendly to the environment, their staff, customers & community as possible.
Any organisation that fails to do this is not genuine about corporate social responsibility but using it as a smokescreen to do the opposite (called greenwashing).
The foreign CEO of QANTAS has used the airline to trash its staff & has not shown a great deal of care for its customers & does not show full attention to its environmental responsibilities (putting a futile environmentally destroying capacity war above the environment being one example).
Often companies do this in a misguided attempt to fool the gullible and buy an appearance of being a caring & responsible business.
Kind of like BHP promoting how it is a responsible environmental manager and donating $100k to a save the koala function whilst running subsidiaries in the third world that poison whole ecosystems as they are not taking the kind of appropriate environmental steps they would in their Australian operations.
QANTAS CEO does not have as a priority the best outcome for his Australian customers, staff or the nation, just his own selfish interests & beliefs.
Did the CEO ban you or something?
This is exactly why I dont want to fly with them. First time I am with JV on this one.
The Shovel summed this up brilliantly:
"Man Who Threw Pie At Alan Joyce Sentenced To 24 Hours On A Jetstar Flight"
http://www.theshovel.com.au/2017/05/11/man-who-threw-pie-at-…
I won't fly Malaysian after their two lost flights.
They only lost one.
They also lost MH17, whether or not they were directly negligent, or are only partial to blame. MH17 was in the wrong place at the wrong time- it was a preventable disaster. Most European airlines had been rerouting flights to Asia to avoid that airspace for days, some for weeks, due to previously downed (military transport) planes in that area, and BUK's missiles observed in that part of Ukraine.
Does most European airlines include Lufthansa? Because there was one of their flights in the vicinity.
They still not made Russia pay for that. we lost 38 Aus on that flight.
Some airlines started to avoid eastern Ukrainian airspace in early March 2014 due to the Crimean crisis.[47] In April, the International Civil Aviation Organization warned governments that there was a risk to commercial passenger flights over south-eastern Ukraine.[6]:217 The American Federal Aviation Administration issued restrictions on flights over Crimea, to the south of MH17's route, and advised airlines flying over some other parts of Ukraine to "exercise extreme caution". This warning did not include the MH17 crash region.[48][49] 37 airlines continued overflying eastern Ukraine and about 900 flights crossed the Donetsk region in the seven days before the Boeing 777 was shot down, with Aeroflot, Singapore Airlines, Ukraine International Airlines, Lufthansa and Malaysia Airlines being the most active carriers.[50]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17#Ba… (emphasis mine)
They didn't lose it, it was shot down.
Singapore Airlines was in the same area though
And they likely aren't responsible for either of the planes. Honestly I knew superstitious Chinese were going to be turned off, but I didn't expect so many Australians to avoid them since. I've flown them and had a great experience.
Meanwhile, the holy grail of Emirates left me in a shambles of a queue for 8 hours, followed by 2 days stranded in dubai over Christmas.
I am surprised no one mention Garuda Indonesia.
They used to be bad, but have got a lot better.
Malaysia used to be OK, but cost cutting has made them worse.
I've always considered Qantas to be overpriced for what they are. And particularly after the CEO behaved so badly when in dispute with the unions - seeking to hurt passengers because he was a petulant child.
I wouldn't fly with them. I don't care if they're better - all it takes is another pilot treating a landing like a goddamn video game…
I took them Melbourne to Bali recently and it seemed fine, everything was on time and in-flight service was excellent.
Garuda are very good these days, have won world's best cabin crew a few times. Its 20 odd years since they had a dodgy reputation.
They did have some very recent incidents, three runway overruns in about 5 years.
Yeah 'most improved airline' isn't difficult after having political assassinations carried out by crew in flight…
Sky Tunt.
Garuda!
Our flight from Bali to Melbourne was overbooked by 140 people!!! They seprated our family (all tickets were purchased & paid together, all same surname). When we arrived at the airport, my elderly parents-in-law (one of them had a medical condition & was on a wheelchair) were checked-in quickly, and swiftly taken through to immigration. While the rest of the family (and other 300 people) were waiting in line for 2.5 hours. Then we were told the flight was overbooked and we had to fly to Sydney instead. We told the staff of my father-in-law's medical condition, and we needed to fly together…but they wouldn't budge, and was told they would look after them, help them with wheel chair/luggage…etc. At the end, Garuda did nothing for them, they didn't know what was going on at final boarding call and they were all alone. Staff told them the flights was full, so we could be flying to Sydney 'but not sure'. They received no help when they arrived in Melbourne. Imagine two elderly, one on wheelchair, had to get their luggage from the carousel and had to organise transport to get home.
They are neither shit or unsafe. You are wrong.
Typical stupid bogan comment.
That’s awful.
I avoid Bali … too many volcano, criminal and political issues to be bothered.But beer is like 2 bucks
too many volcano
Yes, Indonesia should embark on a volcano reduction program, they are scaring away tourists.
Maybe throwing the criminals and politicians down the volcanoes would solve the problem?
It's always a risk when you go over there mate, if he's not comfortable there's no shame in his decision.
Yea, you should go to phuket and catch herpes.
Yea, Malaysian. They call themselves a full service airline, but give worse service than the budget airlines. Sure the food is free, but AirAsia’s $5 meals are more than worth paying the extra $5.
A little flying warning … after MH370 fiasco, I booked a cheap Phuket holiday with MH, via KL of course. I booked the flights to give me a couple of extra weeks in Phuket, so I separately booked flights from Phuket to Penang and Langkawi, finishing in KL, aiming to pickup the MH KL to Melb leg. Cannot do! If you ‘no show’ a flight (Phuket to KL), some airlines cancel all your following flights. I had to fly back to Phuket from KL to avoid this. (Ie Melb-KL-Phuket-Penang-Langkawi-KL-Phuket-KL-Melb)
All airlines do that. Otherwise I’d book tickets to the USA in school
holidays from Adelaide, as they have different term dates and their USA flights actually start in Melbourne, so if I could jump on a middle leg, I’d save myself $1000 a ticket.No, not all.
Some airlines eg. air Asia are point to point and each leg is effectively a one-way ticket.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-point_transit
Remain ignorant, np.
Your choice.
It means in air asias case….. if you book Syd-PENANG return but then get off at KL and make your own way to Penang (eg by boat) then the return from Penang to Syd in still valid. (As all 4 legs are point to point).
Another example with air Asia would be if you book SYD-KUL return. But miss your outward bound flight. You can then decide to fly with another carrier one-way but then use the return part of the original ticket to come back,
MAS has truly lost their way, not just because of the incidents but just the level of service in general. Mind you they were actually pretty decent previously. Flew SIA recently and yeah not much has to be said since they're worlds apart.
Meh… this os ozbargain. Throw a $50 deal to Japan and you'll all jump on the 'never again' airline.
"I disagree with their policies, think they're unethical and have had horrible experiences with them in the past. But for this price… how can you say no??"
Jetstar out of CNS is so cheap to Japan i just pay for everything else onboard
I wouldn't travel on Malaysian airlines for free.
Tiger. Never ever.
Note their asian operations have been folded into Scoot. Australian operations sold & managed by Virgin Australia.
American Airlines and United Airlines.
Arrogant, ignorant and rude.How are they ignorant? I'm pretty sure the pilots know how to fly the planes and the stewards know how to serve drinks.
Clearly, you have never flown with an American Airline and or have savoured the 'delights' of American Airlines Check-in or their Airport Security else you wouldn't have asked the question!
Have you not watched the recent video of the man being 'asked' to vacate his seat on an American flight?I've found that if you put an American in a uniform, any uniform, they become arrogant, condescending and without checking the facts first they want to start a war with me. And although I'm not deaf they feel to need to have to shout at me!
I have flown many American Airlines and you haven’t answered the question. How are they ignorant?
I have answered the question. Don't you know the meaning of the word 'ignorant'?
Try Googling the word and educate yourself.
I wouldn't fly United but I've never had an issue with American Airlines.
People boycotting airlines is a funny thing sometimes. I have a Chinese relative who refuses to fly Malaysian ever since MH370. Most victims on the flight were Chinese nationals, so I guess she feels the issue more than other people. But when I point out Malaysian probably runs 100 or more flights every day since March 2014 without accidents that has no impact on her decision. She'll probably never fly Malaysian ever again.
I haven't included MH17 as that wasn't an accident. Other airlines were using the same air corridor. The separatists could have just as easily shot down a Singapore plane 15 minutes earlier.
This sort of stance isn't rational. But looking at it from the point of emotions, it makes sense not to give more money to an airline associated with deaths of "your people".
I probably won't fly with them because of reports of poor service and poor servicing but really I haven't had to decide because they haven't been a candidate for where I was going.
People are rarely rational. I wouldn't fly MH purely because in my one and only experience kl>syd the aircraft was old the food quite bad and full of smelly passengers. I'm sure I've described any airline on a bad day but only takes one poor experience. Of course I'm happy to be flexible if I came across a great deal (that's my rational side)
I drink garbage water. You're right. People are rarely rational
I would never fly Tiger as know someone who did behind the scenes safety analysis there and said they were soooo dodgy with accidents waiting to happen.
Would not fly Malaysia because of MH 370.
The rest….I've had bad customer service or delayed flight experiences with all. So it basically comes down to price.
Well MH 370 wasn't an accident either.
If a pilot decides to end it all, he's capable of taking everyone with him, no matter the airline.
I'd avoid Malaysia now because of their cost cutting to try and remain profitable, not because of non-accidents.
Well that's why they don't allow pilots to be alone in the cockpit anymore.
Was that pre or post Virgin buying them out? I know they had some big issues from some investigations pre them being grounded by CASA. I assume that some things aren't as well maintained as a premium airline, but haven't heard a lot about their post Virgin takeover history.
Qantas, lost my luggage twice and often delayed
Did you leave labels on your bags?
The airlines do anyway.
Our company’s travel policy says we can’t use Jetstar or Tiger.
I broke code once as there was no other flight… Delayed by 4 hours. Missed my meeting.
Won’t ever risk it again.
I would sack you for breaking the company policy and late for the meeting :)
saving company's money by going against company policy to fly budget airline?
The company probably had experiences with flight delays with them in the past, which wasted money instead of saving it.
Jetstar. Not because of their service, but because of their customers.
Absolute idiots in every aspect. They pay peanuts for a budget flight, then crack the shits when the flight is delayed or cancelled. Then have zero respect for anyone else on the flight, talking loud and drinking like their on a booze bus.
Pretty much any flight to bali lol
Japan too
To be fair, most of them probably know how to spell they’re.
I'll fly any airline. just give me a bloody seat and minimal leg room.
people are too precious.
Are you implying that it's human flight is somehow amazing, and that it's a privilege to be able to travel to different countries and see the world?
What's wrong with you?!
Right? Like it's crazy that we're able to project ourselves into the sky and travel to far destinations - like a ducking bird.
No, not all. I'm saying some people are whingers. E.g. " my flight was delayed by engine trouble, I'll never travel with that airline again".
Get on the plane which will take you to where you want to go.
No, not all
Oh, well I was.
you're 5 feet something ?
probably, i hate paying for extra leg room.
Garuda, Trans Asia and Air Asia. I'd probably still fly Malaysian Airlines, I think MH370 was an isolated incident and not due to mechanical failure. Hell I'd even fly Air France even though that was mechanical failure. I don't love flying Tiger because they're incredibly unreliable. For travelling with small children I think Virgin and Qantas are the best.
If you want inside info on airlines though, highly recommend this forum when deciding if who is worth flying with and who to avoid:
Air France was not caused by a technical failure. It was caused by the co pilots ineptitude. The frozen pitot tube did not stop the plane from flying. If he followed procedure, the plane would not have crashed.
MH370 was clearly not an isolated incident. Weeks later MH17 happened, and while the plane was shot down, it was following a route that most other airlines avoided.
But without the frozen pilot tube they'd never have got into that situation in the first place. I take your point but systems are supposed to protect from situations like that.
MH370 was an isolated incident in that the person likely responsible for the crash is dead so the failure will unlikely be repeated. MH17 I agree was catastrophically poor planning but it's an error that's highly unlikely to be repeated (although if I did fly Malaysian I'd probably check the flight path). It's not like Air Asia and Trans Asia where it sounds like there are some serious issues with pilot training.
Poor training.
Not to say that other airlines don't… But 99.999% chance that wouldn't happen with QANTAS' pilots
Trans Asia
Are the staff all Lady boys?
I flew Air France 3 years after the crash and it didn't bother me much. The flight crew were decent- spoke both English and French. The other passengers (mainly French) were awful.
Had a terrible experience with Hong Kong Airlines HKG-OOL, 3rd leg of an Air France ticket. Never will fly with them again. Got to fly with China Southern after rerouting the return leg, still poor but not as unfriendly as HK Airlines. Air France's response was pretty poor in the dispute as well, so they're of the list.
I will no longer fly through a Middle Eastern Airport/Airlines. Lately entering any airport renders all your civil rights kinda moot and you are at the whim of airport security, border control , customs etcetera. Worse as a non muslim in a Sharia bound Society, where you are treated as a 2nd, or 3rd class human in a legal dispute. Thanks but no thanks. Wonder how many people stopped flying Qantas when they moved their BKK/SIN hubs to fly via DUBai? Before you go on about Islamophobia, sorry but that would require an irrational fear!
This 100%^ upvoted
I'm avoiding Concorde flights after their Paris accident. Also Continental airlines for causing it.
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This is interesting….
Concordes were retired in 2003 so you can't avoid flying them coz they don't fly anyway…unless you have some way of getting the one on display at CDG back on a runway!
We need to talk. I have so many questions.