Thinking of buying a bat, have golf clubs right now but they're too easy to break.
Are there any other weapons or defences we can use to protect us from home invasions?
What Do You Use for Self-Defence in Your Own House?
pingualien on 16/06/2018 - 00:26
Last edited 16/06/2018 - 00:56 by 1 other user
Last edited 16/06/2018 - 00:56 by 1 other user
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I'll just go back and distract the invader's parents.
Make sure dad pulls out.
Sock full of eneloops
Stick a paperclip to both terminals so they short circuit and it becomes a burning sock with a chance to explode on impact:)
Wow!
BB Gun
In all seriousness, people who do not know how to use a weapon can often have it taken and used against them.
Please be careful when considering to confront an invader with a weapon.
yep, you'd be dead/in hospital AND still had your possessions stolen
What about an attack cat?
She's autonomous (when awake) and, after a few hours of licking, can actually draw blood with her Velcro-like tongue.
I find unmanned autonomous attack cats (UAACs) to be unreliable and often have trouble with recognizing IFF transponders.
Attack cat in action (they're pretty scary) - https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6UB65bfF8P1anIZ2/200w.gif
people who do not know how to use a weapon
Exactly - which is why firearms are a better solution. Not only are they much more threatening and effective most people can use them effectively at short ranges of a couple of metres with minimal knowledge or practice.
This gonna get negged ;)
considers upvoting just to annoy Diji1 and his fishing attempt
I feel like that's Diji1's reverse psychology working…
Firearms are as effective as FBI agents doing backflips at parties.
FBI is an American institution and has no relevance here in Australia.
@homersimpson:
Guns-in-regular-homes are an American Institution and have no relevance here in Australia.I mean, I think if you have an FBI agent at your house, that's going to be fairly effective and deterring home invaders no matter if they're just chilling or doing back flips.
That's a lie.
Only specially trained police and military officers engage in combat one on one while on duty. The risk is too high. And that's with gun's strapped to their body, not locked in a safe.
Why kill people to defend yourself?
Darwinism
If someone's breaking into my home, I'm not going to be feeling much sympathy for them or extending any benefit of the doubt. As far as I'm concerned, they were definitely coming at me with intent to hurt me and I had no option to escape and so was forced to defend myself. Every. Single. Time.
@boohooimissout: First of all, there's no chance Oscar Pistorius actually thought there was a burgler in the bathroom. Secondly,
Personally, I would rather get killed for being too naive, rather than living with guilt of killing someone.
Good for you. Not so great if you're a family man with a wife and kids, who not only might depend on your income and as a father, but might also be in the home at the time.
In any case, that's going to depend on a person-by-person basis. I personally wouldn't feel any guilt over injuring someone who breaks into my home, so that logic doesn't even apply. I won't be aiming to kill them - that's unreasonable.
@boohooimissout: it's ridiculous that you think like that. I'm not being mean.. But you missed a few steps at the end there.
Think smarter. Not pussier.@BusMan247: I don't understand why you said that.
I have read many cases of misused firearms due to mistaken identity, or accident or anger.
I can't trust myself that I would be able to handle such a powerful weapon.
In the dark, at night, with possible influence of food, alcohol or drugs, and heighten sense of fear, I might shoot anything.
Maybe you are not being mean, but you are.
Your use of words need to be smarter.
I can't trust myself that I would be able to handle such a powerful weapon.
Maybe others can trust themselves? I don't get drunk at home - literally never. I get drunk at friends places or at the pub. At home I have at most a double of scotch.
I also don't take drugs. Hell, I don't even take Panadol unless I'm absolutely dying and need to.
I trust myself under the influence of food. Less so under the influence of hunger, but food I can usually deal with.
@HighAndDry: I don't think it's about trusting yourself or not. I trusted myself that I would be able to drive after drinking alcohol still, but the cops disagree.
Some kids would probably trust themselves to drive.
Would you trust someone else with a gun?
Would your guests and family feel more or less saver knowing you have a gun in your house?
Very true. So, the question is would you prefer to be wacked on your head with your golf clubs or a bat? Your choice.
For some reason I read 'to confront vader'
use the force.
I shoot watermelons on my family's farm since I was 13. I'm a good shot with my semi-automatic.
My powerful body odour
Yep, hand up for that
'put your hands up!' vomits, 'no! put your hands down and keep them down!'
Move to a better neighbourhood.
Seriously, there are places where every second home is broken into every year and others where it is 1/200.
Yeah, damn 'diversity'. 'Cause it's never the white kid funding their drug hobby while mom and dad are busy paying off their mortgage.
Nah, the white kid funding their drug habit steals from family and friends, breaking into houses is too much like hard work.
A white kid with parents who have money to pay off that mortgage is going to steal from those parents.
Steal what? It's all go's on the mortgage. I want to retire soon.
more like the mom and dad also funding their drug/booze hobby
all the druggos in council housing around me got kicked out for "diverse" families and immigrants and crimes have dropped off big time in the past 3 years. don't even have to worry about sketchy (see: ice addicts) people walking up the street when i get home at night now.
My heart goes out to your poor, white, drug dealing neighbors who lost their stable customer base. Hopefully these 'diverse' families assimilate quickly after bankrupting these loyal Australian local business people.
Shoo shoo /pol/ goblin
Easier said than done.
Even the worst suburbs in Melbourne are stupidly expensive. $600k+ median price for Dandenong.
I have a very firm baguette in my home currently, other than that no prepared weapons.
Not so firm if you need to chase away marauders in the rain.
But what if they got mayo?
If they have capers too I'll bring the smoked salmon.
How common even is it for a home invasion while there is still an occupant? Are you going to set a weapon in every room? I doubt a burglar would make life difficult for themselves and break into a house with someone inside. If it's a well thought out home invasion you probably wouldn't have the chance to reach for a weapon. Maybe this thread from a few hours ago will have some tips
I doubt a burglar would make life difficult for themselves and break into a house with someone inside
Why would you doubt that when there is real examples of it happening?
How common even is it for a home invasion while there is still an occupant?
once a day
Had someone break in and steal my mum's purse while about about 5 of us were sleeping at night.
Good point. You should have left a weapon in the house that they could have used while you were sleeping.
You're obviously not from Melbourne. If you were, you'd know that break-ins occur while the occupants are home in this city every day.
Man, I've asked several times and yet another comment with a 'stat' that isn't backed up by anything. I think that's how paranoia works. Anyway, I decided to have a look myself this time just to see how big of a problem it is, and specifically in Melbourne since that is where OP is. I don't know if he's mentioned a specific suburb. A report in 2017 states that there were 86 aggravated burglaries (when a person is carrying a weapon during a burglary or when an occupant is present) per 100,000 people in Melbourne.
If it makes OP feel better psychologically, he can have something to protect himself, but another way of looking at it is that it seems extremely unlikely it's going to happen so it can also be beneficial to shift perspective. OP hasn't divulged much information at all in terms of how bad it is in his area so maybe the stats aren't as relevant to him, but for the general person, it's best to make sure you have your windows/doors secure and locked than to have a weapon.
Ok, so approx 4,500,000 people live in Melbourne. 86 armed home invasions per 100,000 people means 3870 armed home invasions over the year. That's more than 10 armed home invasions a day. You statistic only made me feel worse about living here.
@freakatronic: First of all, looking at the absolute number is pretty pointless. It doesn't matter if Melbourne had a population of a trillion. If we look at how many are happening in China, I'd expect a huge number considering they have a population 50x greater. That doesn't mean it's 50x worse there, you have to compare the rate.
Anyway, there aren't 4.5 million homes in Melbourne, that's just the population. In the article itself it says there were 136 home invasions in a 12 month span.
@HighAndDry: Ok yeah, thinking about it again, I think you're right. Looking at the heat map in the article, seems like most suburbs are safe. There are some like Ballarat though which are terrible. 131 aggravated burglaries per 1000 is a joke.
Somebody lives in a nice homogeneous high-income neighborhood, I see. All those diversity imports have to be housed somewhere, you know, so there are neighborhoods where home invasions are a real and present danger.
An unfortunate consequence of our firearm laws is that, proportionally, burglaries while occupants are at home are more common than in regions where people are free to own firearms (in which burglars more often target houses when the owners are out).
What? Since I asked more information on how common the issue is I must be in a high-income neighbourhood?
As for your second statement on firearms and burglaries, can I see an article or anything that backs up that claim? Just doing a brief search on it, I'm actually seeing there's no real evidence for it. From a quick read, guns are a valuable loot, hence are targeted just the same as an area with no guns
Rare unless your into drugs.
Unlawful entry to private residences sits above 100,000 per year per year.
Robberies in private residences sits around the 1,000 mark per year.
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/DetailsPage/4510.020…
If you're going to rely on "best possible scenario" then why even lock the front door? I mean, it's also uncommon for houses to burn down, but we still not only recommend fire alarms but make them mandatory.
I don't get what you mean in your first part. I know it's uncommon for houses to burn down, hence it would be irrational to worry too much about it. Obviously, for peace of mind, get a fire alarm, but short of common sense fire prevention practice, there's not much else you can do. Same with a home invasion. Make sure you lock the doors and if it makes you feel better have a weapon, but it's pointless to worry so much about it.
I know it's uncommon for houses to burn down, hence it would be irrational to worry too much about it. Obviously, for peace of mind, get a fire alarm
Exactly. People can have something for home protection for the same reasons - peace of mind. I don't think OP is worrying too much about it. The post is just asking about what to have for home defense. Imagine someone asked for recommendations for a smoke alarm - would your comment be "Don't worry too much about it"?
@HighAndDry: Yeah, I agree. I just wanted to make sure OP knew the scope of the problem just in case he was feeling pedantic over it. I never denied he shouldn't do something like get a weapon.
I have a compound bow for long range and kukri for close range.
Sure you do champ, sure you do.
Maybe I'm missing something, tell me if I am, but why wouldn't he? A compound can be had for a couple hundred second hand, and kukri new for less than a hundred.
Who is going to invade your house from long distance?
Telemarketers.
i honestly cant upvote this enough
rofl …
and bloody scammers!
Damn that's an impressive compound bow if it reaches all the way to India…
comment of the year
CHUGGERS!!!!
Ever thought of guys come in with sniper rifles, rifles, bows and crossbows?
Then they've come ill-equipped because indoors it's all short-range!
Long range isn't self defence.
It is if you yell it out first.
Why dose he have an arrow in his back?
HE WAS COMING RIGHT AT ME
I keep an illegal firearm on my side table.
Joke
I keep a Smartphone on my side table. Call the cops.
$50 note in the top drawer of my side table. So the junkie can get his/her fix.I have the same joke :)
I keep a second joke in the toilet.
Your second joke is sh!t
Only when I haven't had veggies for months.
Flux capacitor.