Question is self explanatory. I realise that this is not necessarily an option for everyone but would be interested to hear thoughts.
I recently started 4 x 10 hr days so that we can keep my son out the petri dish that is daycare. I work 7am-5pm Mon-Thur and find that it works well though it does not leave much flexibility if something comes up
It's never been something that I requested or even asked about in interviews, has just come about organically based on individual needs at different companies
I'd like to work 4 hours per week, once a week then have a bloody good sleep.
I'd just like to have the bloody good sleep…
For many jobs, people believe you cannot focus and be productive for that long in a single day and therefore is not worthwhile. We can all 'be' at work for 10 hours a day, many of us do anyway but how much of that is actual efficient productive generated work?
Pretty sure pilots are allowed to fly up to 10 hours straight. That's a fairly high level job.
It's a job that has its ups and downs.
I think they have a nap in between Takeoff and Landing.
10 hours straight, but the time flies by
Pilots are just plane lucky
need to have the right altitude to get a job like that.
It's quite a low pressure job though - equal to the pressure seen at around 8000ft.
I think 5 days at 6 hours would be more productive. But then you would not allow chit-chat in the office ( which would benefit the productivity again because of less noise ) or any other informal communication. Meetings would have to be banned as they are the biggest waste of time.
In my company, every Thursday 20+ people congregate in a mass meeting to discuss what will be deployed to production. Meeting often exceeds 1H.
I worked 4 days a week, and during this period I did all I did before on a 5 days a week.
It can also be broken down into a week, I've read that anything more than 40 hours a week is unproductive.
I personally have worked 10 hour days before and I do notice that my effort levels tend to exponentially decrease once it gets to the 9 hour mark or so, I don't really get much done in that last hour and could just leave work right away because I'd be wasting my own time.
Prior experience required:
- Mile High Club
My dad company dose this.
Does he sleep on the job?
NODOSE
I was working for nab before starting my own business. I was working 4 days 10 hour days. I had every Wednesday off to break the week. I did that for about 9 months. The best thing in the world. I had so much free time because of that and I was way more productive at work as my next day off was just around the corner. I was happy.
Now I have my own business and I work 6 days a week. And I couldn't be more happier. I am doing what I love and I get to do it 6 days a week.
Find a job that you love and you won't work a day in your life. Can't remember who said that but it's so true.
I have worked in digital agencies for the past 7 years which are generally quite flexible when it comes to work hours. My current agency offers flexible hours on a case by case basis.
One colleague works 6am-2pm 5 days per week
In a previous agency in Sydney a colleague lived 2 hours away so worked 4x10 hour days.
Like I said I know it's not possible for everyone but a lot of employers are starting to become more flexible, but it it does depend on the industry
some example of other companies that have been doing that for ALL of their employees? in sydney, australia, or world?
https://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/economy/2013/07/10/worlds…
basically every country that truly has their kit together has an average 4 day work week.
Australia is about 10 years behind.
Good thing we’re hallway there.
when starting a pool its best if you give some more research result
I think OP is just asking for opinions. And are apples really pricier than oranges?
170 votes so far. Seems to be doing okay without it thanks
I would rather work 13.333 hours a day and have a really long weekend. :)
If I could fit all my working hours into 3 days (like with uni), I'd do that in a heartbeat. Probably be able to pull it off as well, as long as I crammed my normal 5 days of caffeine intake into those 3 days too.
My caffeine intake has increased since starting the new hours. Used to have 1 a day, on my second already and only 3 hours into the day
Yeah - as good as a 4 day week sounds, that 7am start can't be much fun.
My son wakes between 5:30 and 6am so up anyway. You get used to it, though some evenings you're just wiped
sooo… you're at work and on ozbargain at the same time. we know you can multitask… but are you productive?
I'm about to go to a 4 day week next year - full time at 9 hrs a day 4 days a week.
Can't wait!
Yes, I believe in a 4 day work week, I think it is good for family and good for jobs.
I currently work 5 x 10 hour days … So either sounds good to me
4 x 10 hour days sounds much better then 5 x 10 days to me.
It's like, at least 2 hours better
It's actually 10 hours better.
Hahah yeah, I voted on "Hell yeah" before I saw the poll option of "I already work more hours"….. because yes. More than 40hrs a week here too haha.
How about 4 x 12.5 hour days?
I'm in the wrong industry (regularly doing unpaid OT). But if I wasn't in this line of work then I'd love to.
Yep. I would definitely.
I think a lot of people would happily work three 12.5 hour days per week and have the other two off.
I personally find it much more preferable when I’m already working to do a bit extra rather than stop and then continue the next day. I think that for people who travel a lot for their job, they’d much rather work the extra too.
As long as folks are getting proper breaks and aren’t being run ragged.
Once you can handle 4 x 10 hours per week, you will think about 3 more days you can earn income for luxury things like euro car & bigger house etc, so end up you working 7 days a week for 10, 20, 30 years, that is reality for typical Sydney people.
How about 4x8 for the same pay. Everyone buggers around Monday mornings and Friday afternoons anyway.
Tuesday morning and Thursday afternoon would become the new bludge sessions…
My current workplace has 3 shifts. Morning, afternoon & night.
4 days @ 36 hour week, 9 hours a day
3 day @ 36 hour week, 12 hours a day
excluding overtime.
Without revealing too much, what kind of industry is this in?
Paint manufacturing.
I like the sound of 5 4Hr days.
Agreed. After 20 hours a week I can feel the frustration, fatigue and stress increase. 40+ and I am an angry drunken overeating zombie.
15-20 is pleasant, stimulating, energising, and makes me feel like I am giving something without sacrificing everything.
100% I would opt for it. I used to do 12 hour shifts, 4 days on and 4 off. It was a hard slog when you were working but having 4 days off every week was amazing and as mentioned above the transport/time savings of only going into the office half the week were great.
i do.
have done for ten years, it's awesome.
given i was working 5 x 9+ anyway is has turned out well.
I don't consider it babysitting. I'm glad to have the time with my son
True but they absorb so much energy off you without you noticing. After you spending 10hr day (depend on what kind of job you do), you surely need some rest before QUALITY time with your kid.
No not really, I try to always get a good nights sleep plus my son is in bed by 6:30 and sleeps through so still have evenings to me and the wife
@cillianbc: and how old is your son? if the kid is 10yo+ and your kind of quality time is playing ps4 all day, why not.
And you still have to send your son to petri dish child care, he still can get sick and pass it on. :)
@boomramada: He's 14 months. No, quality time is the park and bringing him swimming, on Friday's anyway. Yes he still gets sick at day care.
Maybe it's just me but I never feel like it's draining to spend time with him. Do I get tired? Of course but I got tired before 4x10 hour days and my son
I currently do 6 day weeks and spend the other with my daughter, certainly wouldn't consider it working.
Wouldn't really call it babysitting. More so parenting..
Let's not assume his parenting skills prematurely…
I hope you don't have kids
This sounds like pretty weak personal attack to me, so me putting 100% at work for 5 days a week 9-6 and put 100% of my energy all the other time inc weekend make me a bad parent? Seriously?
Not every kid is the same, not every job is the same and if OP has energy to do that, good on him. That doesn't make all the other millions of parents that send their kids to child care 5 days a week a bad parent.
You stated that OP would be "babysitting" on his 5th day off. Perhaps he actually enjoys spending time with his son? Wasn't a personal attack, simply hoping that people who don't want to spend time with their kids, don't have kids in the first place.
no brainer
HELL YES - already doing this :)
just have to make sure you're not that tired/stressed that you're spending the free day just resting up
10 hours a day is just 2 extra toilet breaks.
I changed to a 4 day week. Yes it was good having every Friday off.
I'm happy to trade 5x0 days for 4x0 days. Same amount of work not done. Then I can look for something to not do on the extra day. :)
Absolutely 4 day week. Prefer longer shifts and less days.
I do 4.5 days which is works for me, not as long hours and gives me flexibility to do running around on Friday arvo or take a nap :)
I thought you would just sell crude oil by the barrel
Haha if only..
In the US, most nurses work 12 hour shifts. The actual shift is probably closer to 13 hours, 30 minutes is for lunch plus you never get out on time. My wife likes the fact that she can knock out all three days in a row and do some sightseeing the other days (she's been a travel nurse in the past). She REALLY likes how much easier it is here in Australia (she's a midwife here). Plus we're at a point where she only needs to work 1-3 days per week (8hrs per shift).
So…depends? Three 12hr shifts per week would be easy enough for a few months at least (unless they swap between days and nights, which my wife has had to do). If you live close to work and commute time is minimal, having the hours spread out a bit more would be nice. Plus, if you have kids and don't have a partner staying at home, you'll need to work around that. The extended hours at work for those 3-4 days would mean you'd require some before/after school care.
NSW police work 12 hour shifts unless they've changed it since last I checked.
Mental health nursing, and some ED roles, run on 12-hour shifts, too.
Poor coppers, no wonder some of them seem a bit grumpy.
Make it three 10 hour days and you have a deal!
every one could be on a moving roster , dictating the day of week off. ie you work ,
T,W,Th,Fr week 1
M,W,Th,Fr week 2
M,T,Th,Fr week 3
M,T,W,Fr week 4
M,T,W,Th week 5
get a 4 days weekend every 5th week
this would reduce traffic a tonne to, and there is no bias to the day you get off.
Hell yes for an 8hour 4day working week
And here is some news reports
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/work-less-get-…
Petri dish make son stronk.
Germless bubble make son bubble boy.
Bubble boy pop in real world.
Company I'm with is in between. We work 9 hour days Mon-Thurs and 4 hours on Friday (half day Fridays!).
I think 4x10 or 5x8 depends on each individual's situation. eg: long commuters would favour 4x10, but those with family might prefer 5x8
'Employers will be forced to justify their decisions to knock back requests for flexible working arrangements under a new clause to be inserted into all modern awards by the Fair Work Commission.' - read this morning on train
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/employers-forced-to-…
Easy. A manager will say other people might need you during those hours. This effectively screws over most people.
/source, used to work in big company that will come up with any excuse even if it makes employees more productive. The only reason they allowed annual leave to be taken outside of mandatory annual leave periods is that it's a liability.
Not true. They cannot unreasonable reject your request. If it's a medium/large company that have to justify why someone else cannot fill your role for your adjusted hours FWA.
Small business it's an uphill battle however. Might not be enough to staff for accommodate your FWA. You'll have a better chance changing to part time 3/4 days a week and unfortunately accepting the paycut.
If my contract was changed to 4 days 10 hrs a day. I would probably be working 5 days at 14 hrs a day instead of 6 days at 11 hours. But on a serious note though, is there such a thing as a job where you can earn 100k pa and just fulfill your contract hours and just walk out the door with zero stress or fear of respite? genuine question? because in my line of work it is project based, the project becomes a lifestyle
Yes (IMO) - IT Sales!
I should look into this, they would probably get paid more than 100k too … I always pick the careers where the contracts say, working hours from 8.30 to 5 or all hours necessary to fulfill the duties of the role.
Sadly I think will all say that
Public service!
But at 100k pa?
I always liked this idea because you save time and money by not traveling an extra day, but I’ve never found a place that offers this.