Holding Parking Space by Standing in It

Lpegasusx on 16/10/2018 - 13:25
Last edited 16/10/2018 - 15:30 by 1 other user

First time I've experienced this yesterday whilst parking inside Westfield. The green light on the ceiling lead me to a vacant space and as I pulled up, a man was standing in the space waving at me. He was on the mobile so initially thought he has mistaken my car. Waited for about 10 secs and realised he was waving me away! Finally dawned on me that he was holding the space for someone else. Basically called dibs on a space.

At this point, a number of thoughts and options went passed my mind, but I choose to drop off my wife/infant close to the shopping entrance and drive to look for another space.

Any one else come across this in Australia? I've been to a few other countries, i.e. Italy / Hongkong where I've seen this happen. Just never experienced it myself in Aus.

I understand that it's perfectly legal, just looked down upon as bad manners.

Automotive Parking

Comments

        • [Deactivated] on 16/10/2018 - 18:00
          +25

          Asia is a very large continent with varying skin tones… You'll have to be more specific.

          Pours more fuel into the fire.

          • 87percent on 16/10/2018 - 19:44
            +18

            @[Deactivated]: I would guess Specifically Chinese, and then my second guess would be Indian

            • [Deactivated] on 17/10/2018 - 09:13
              +2

              @87percent: I'm guessing Specifically Chinese are from Specifically China?

            • resisting the urge on 17/10/2018 - 10:56

              @87percent: Are you a statistician, supasaiyan?

            • dodgybrothers on 18/10/2018 - 08:42
              +1

              @87percent: cannot be an Indian.. they are more smarter.. they wouldn't wave hand, they would just ignore the car at all, pretending you don't exist.

        • Kamsi on 16/10/2018 - 23:43

          middle eastern.. oops

        • esty on 17/10/2018 - 08:45
          +2

          subtleasiantraits

        • JPerez on 20/10/2018 - 19:07
          -1

          Don't clump ALL asians into it.

          We all know 9 time sout of 10 it would be Chinese idiots.

      • goraygo on 17/10/2018 - 22:34

        Well, I had an Italian looking family did it to me once and then an Asian guy did it to me another time. It’s all in NSW.

        Mate, this shit is happening everywhere and it’s unacceptable!

      • JPerez on 20/10/2018 - 19:08
        +1

        something something not from here

    • pegasusx on 16/10/2018 - 13:40
      +18

      The man looked Middle Eastern / Asian Subcontinental

    • altomic on 16/10/2018 - 14:34
      +14

      was he from Earth?

    • Herbse on 16/10/2018 - 19:30
      +9

      Does it matter?

      • cookietime on 16/10/2018 - 20:46
        +8

        It surely does if we want to explain a behaviour from a cultural perspective.

        • Herbse on 16/10/2018 - 21:09
          +40

          Jerks exist in every culture

          • pramki on 16/10/2018 - 21:16

            @Herbse: Agree

          • Xiaomi on 17/10/2018 - 01:24

            @Herbse: Habib is that you

            • khomeini on 17/10/2018 - 13:59
              +2

              @Xiaomi: He just smeshed Conner and now he's on OzBargain. Is there nothing this man can't do!

          • dogboy on 17/10/2018 - 12:25
            -7

            @Herbse: Yes but some cultures are >90% jerk, namely the Chinese. Not necessarily their fault, just the cultural differences.

            • KozieSeller on 17/10/2018 - 14:45

              @dogboy: I think you're kind of a jerk to profile 90% of Chinese, I wonder if you treat them lesser from your sadly exaggerated views

              • dogboy on 19/10/2018 - 13:27

                @KozieSeller: Go live in China for some time and let me know how you feel about it. I treat everyone the same for your information. Thinking someone is a jerk for one comment is a good reflection of your intellectual capacity and world view.

                • KozieSeller on 19/10/2018 - 16:57
                  +2

                  @dogboy: Yes, I been to China and over 90% of the time they mind there own business and wouldn't give a crap what you're doing. And yes a jerk to make a comment like that usually entails what most of typical aussie views are, and how much more racist they'd be when talking amongst themselves. Your sad intellect probably only extends to making fun/insults of asians and likely nothing ever nice.

            • Scrooge McDuck on 17/10/2018 - 18:31
              +3

              @dogboy:

              Yes but some cultures are >90% jerk, namely the Chinese. Not necessarily their fault, just the cultural differences.

              I have just reported your comment to the CCP, social credit rating section.

              I for one welcome our new jerk overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted online personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground parking caves.

              • try2bhelpful on 17/10/2018 - 18:37

                @Scrooge McDuck: that did make me LOL. However, I think they will need to duke it out with our "cat overlords". These things have infiltrated a large number of homes within Australia.

          • MementoMori on 18/10/2018 - 10:04

            @Herbse: It's matters because in one culture it could be acceptable (and the guy isn't a jerk - he's just a regular guy), and in another culture only jerks do this.

          • Sage on 20/10/2018 - 17:44

            @Herbse: True, but often times an offensive behaviour comes from a culture where it is tolerated.
            They may not understand when they're doing something wrong.

        • pramki on 16/10/2018 - 21:15
          +3

          That is the definition of profiling

          • burningrage on 16/10/2018 - 22:18

            @pramki: Profiling or not, it happens in this case soooo probably matter.

      • Flanders on 17/10/2018 - 11:02
        +4

        He was actually standing inside his vehicle within the parking spot. He was having trouble locating the switch to turn off the transparency function in his alien tech vehicle.
        He's never onces been caught by a speed or red light camera ;)

  • PissLUR on 16/10/2018 - 13:30
    +3

    just run over the person.

  • Rhubarb Jones on 16/10/2018 - 13:32
    +83

    You 100% did the right thing. Posted about it on OzBargain.

    • pegasusx on 16/10/2018 - 13:43
      +3

      "Everything Else" seems like the appropriate category for this?

    • cuteseal on 17/10/2018 - 11:59
      +4

      I've gone through the thread and no mention of bikies yet! I'm very disappointed! :D

      The obvious solution is to hire bikies to drop you off everytime you go shopping at Westfield. No need to find parking.

  • tsunamisurfer on 16/10/2018 - 13:34
    -1

    I absolutely hate this practice.

    It causes confusion and probably a row to ensue.

    I can just imagine a driver putting on their indicator to park, and some Mainlander dashing into the spot suggesting it is his/hers because the car isn't in yet.

    • Kamsi on 16/10/2018 - 23:47

      I despise those people who thinks by standing on the car space he or she own it. What is wrong with these people, probably is fine in their own friggin country but is not OK in here.

        • SlickMick on 17/10/2018 - 11:25

          This won't be a popular comment, but they seem to reserve too many parks. Once that quota is used up, no special consideration for the rest too from me. I will XXX XXX XXXX (Mod: Comment Edited). Sorry.

          ps I really hate those reserved for the car wash.

        • Kamsi on 17/10/2018 - 12:33
          +1

          Yeah, what happens if everybody decide to do exactly as you do. I don't think it will end will.

          Not saying I don't give a fCCk about disable people but surely there is a better way than this.

    • dust on 17/10/2018 - 09:14

      Does it have to be a mainlander?

      • Kamsi on 17/10/2018 - 11:35

        Apparently not. Have to say initially I thought it was.

      • oztite on 17/10/2018 - 23:18

        What's a mainlander?

    • rflash101 on 18/10/2018 - 15:32

      It sad that they can get away with.

      Honestly an altercation is not worth the effort or the danger to your life.

      10 more mins looking for parking is better than ending up in the hospital.

    • Exorcist on 20/10/2018 - 23:39
      +1

      what's to be confused about? If the car is not in yet, a mainlander could claim this spot. If a mainlander is not present, an Indian could then claim the spot, followed by the rest of the Asians, then a person from the rest of the world, then a first generation Australian, second .. to maximum 6th generation, and finally an Aboriginal, if they are lucky enough to own a car.

      The same rule applies to your wife, your house, your government and your land.

      Edit: your job too

  • John Kimble on 16/10/2018 - 13:39
    +13

    https://youtu.be/tQ3JnxkZxJg

    • pegasusx on 16/10/2018 - 13:45
      +1

      Ha! no way! Even the mum came and joined in. Where did this happen?

      • John Kimble on 16/10/2018 - 13:51
        +1

        🇺🇸 It's in the video description

    • tsunamisurfer on 16/10/2018 - 13:55
      +3

      This is the detestable one I saw previously.

      They feel entitled because they got there 1 second before the driver who had the inidcator on.

      The solution is simple.

      https://www.quora.com/How-can-one-deflate-puncture-someones-…

      • John Kimble on 16/10/2018 - 13:57
        +4

        Yeah, I don't know why people would risk damage to their car…just find another spot.

    • HighAndDry on 16/10/2018 - 17:34
      +1

      She ran to stand in the spot. Wtf? Who does that??

      • Scrooge McDuck on 16/10/2018 - 17:49
        +7

        Inconsiderate people who have no qualms about cheating to get ahead.

      • smartazz104 on 17/10/2018 - 21:52
        +1

        The kinds of people who don’t understand the concept of a queue.

    • Scrooge McDuck on 16/10/2018 - 17:56
      +10

      He was far too tolerant with them.

      I would lean on the horn while creeping forward, take the space, wait for another driver, give the space to them, and park on another level so the squatters can't find my car.

      You have to stand up to those people or they'll keep trying it.

      • orangetrain on 17/10/2018 - 08:34
        +2

        Keyed car, broken wipers, cracked/broken windows. While you wait for another car. It pays to be right.

        • rover100 on 17/10/2018 - 11:43
          +2

          Yeah but you are still in your car, they wouldn't dare.

          • orangetrain on 17/10/2018 - 12:38
            +1

            @rover100: You must be big, I'm a short girl compared to most guys

    • ribze1 on 16/10/2018 - 21:39
      +1

      That video came to mind, ridiculous scenario.

    • CheapskateQueen on 16/10/2018 - 22:31
      +2

      damn. they had some decent self control not to run them all over :,)

  • John Kimble on 16/10/2018 - 13:40
    +1

    Yeah, it's not cricket.

    Better than sitting in it suppose though?

  • [Deactivated] on 16/10/2018 - 13:46
    +4

    It happens a lot in Kuala Lumpur, mostly in areas with a large Chinese populations… Although in KL it is actually illegal to do this.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvDCdmPvdI

    I've never run into one of these people while I was trying to park, but I've seen them many times as I was leaving, etc.
    Looking forward to the day I see one, and reverse over them.

    • Dr Techno on 16/10/2018 - 23:22
      +1

      yep my Malaysian friends do this. reminds me of the time I stepped into KFC in Hong Kong one half of restaurant with ppl sitting eating their meals and the other half what looks like vacant seats were not. Every empty seat & table had someones bag or personal being on it reserving it while they ordered. Im not sure how I can compete as a non asian.

      • [Deactivated] on 16/10/2018 - 23:27

        Well, you're likely at least triple their size… So, the real question is, how are they going to compete with you?

        • Ten on 17/10/2018 - 08:43
          +3

          Sheer numbers

      • orangetrain on 17/10/2018 - 08:35

        Bring back pickpocket crime. Natural solution.

      • abb on 17/10/2018 - 10:00

        You get a seat to sit at and a free jacket, sweet!

    • Kamsi on 16/10/2018 - 23:49

      You're not a car you're a person… :)

  • [Deactivated] on 16/10/2018 - 14:15
    +39

    It doesn't pay to be friendly and accommodating.

    Roll down the windows and tell them what they're doing is wrong and if your car is scratched, you remember their face. Proceed to drive in. If they won't move, stop the car get out and confront.

    I am not even kidding the in the slightest. Put up with this kind of rubbish and it ceases to be the exception and becomes the expected.

    • HighAndDry on 16/10/2018 - 15:20
      +6

      Agreed. This is the thin end of the wedge for the adage that "bad things happen when good men do nothing."

      • Wiggleh on 16/10/2018 - 21:59
        -2

        🎻 Dramatic, much?

        • [Deactivated] on 17/10/2018 - 09:21
          +12

          Today it's parking embargo, tomorrow it's trade embargo. Before you know it, nuclearisation.

        • HighAndDry on 17/10/2018 - 09:48
          +6

          Well, the original is that "Evil triumphs when…" so I already toned it down. But it's the general mindset. People find it easier to let unreasonable things by, and in that way it encourages unreasonable people to continue being unreasonable - because it works.

          It's basically the "squeaky wheel" phenomenon, and which I personally hate.

          • tranter on 17/10/2018 - 10:40
            +2

            @HighAndDry: Gotta pick your battles.

            • SlickMick on 17/10/2018 - 11:39
              +2

              @tranter: This world is in a mess because we tolerate nearly anything. Nothing is ever so dramatic as to be that battle worth fighting for.

              I'd much rather a "nip every problem in the bud" approach

    • MementoMori on 18/10/2018 - 10:07

      Take a photo of them (and their car if possible).

  • try2bhelpful on 16/10/2018 - 15:17
    +10

    The ones that get to me are the tools, in the suburbs, who come out and object to you parking in the street outside their house because it is "their" space. I take great delight in getting out of the car and heading off to where I'm going whilst just laughing at them. It is usually some entitled idiot with more money than sense.

    • [Deactivated] on 16/10/2018 - 15:31
      +2

      It is usually some entitled idiot with more money than sense.

      It's usually the ones that cannot afford a well planned suburb or a choice residential spots that have to complain.

      • try2bhelpful on 16/10/2018 - 15:41
        +4

        My experience is with the "I know my local member" ones who have not only have the his and her cars, but also the cars for the their private school brats, that take over the streets. Just gives me a sense of satisfaction to introduce them to the concept of "public" parking in the street.

    • serpserpserp on 16/10/2018 - 19:55

      I had someone do that to a relative that was staying with us, they were parking about 100m down the road. Someone left them a barely legible note scrawled in highlighter saying "DONT PARK HERE" placed under the wiper. I was going to move my car their permanently but then decided that a) this person could have a mental illness and it could escalate to something where harm is done to people and b) there are heaps of spots around, so who cares?

      • So lo on 17/10/2018 - 02:03
        +3

        Buy a cheap banger off gumtree that barely runs. Don't give the seller the correct details and wear gloves. Park it in that spot. Throw away the paperwork. Worth a couple hundy.

    • Munki on 16/10/2018 - 20:42
      -1

      Holy shit I had this once. I couldn't even fathom her claim it was their spot. It was on a ducking public road.

    • khell on 17/10/2018 - 02:22

      I'm happy when my neighbours park in front of my house. It makes it look like there's someone home when there isn't necessarily. I had to tell them off for parking onto my nature strip though. THAT is not acceptable.

    • SlickMick on 17/10/2018 - 11:45
      -1

      I once had somebody park on the footpath outside our house, with sun-shield on windscreen. I thought it was quite weird (we're in the suburbs - nowhere near anything). He was lucky I didn't intend mowing that day… What is the etiquette regarding mowing when someone is parked outside your house?

      • GaryQ on 17/10/2018 - 14:05
        -1

        The correct formula is you mow closer and closer to a car in proportion to its value, to ensure a comfortable resting place for it

  • qwerty on 16/10/2018 - 15:42
    +6

    If you push in while someone is standing and holding a spot its a good way to come back to a keyed car

    • [Deactivated] on 16/10/2018 - 16:05
      +3

      Take a picture of them. Usually makes the message very clear.

      • boomramada on 16/10/2018 - 16:22
        +3

        what you going to do with the pic? sell it on gumtree?

        • TheBilly on 16/10/2018 - 16:29
          +10

          make a meme… pray it goes viral

        • [Deactivated] on 16/10/2018 - 16:57
          +2

          It's just to send a clear message that you're watching. A flair for the dramatic if you will.

        • Scrooge McDuck on 16/10/2018 - 18:04
          -2

          what you going to do with the pic? sell it on gumtree?

          Feel righteous about it after your car gets keyed.

        • serpserpserp on 16/10/2018 - 19:56
          +12

          Look at the picture every day and shake your fist…. Do this the rest of your life.

          • [Deactivated] on 16/10/2018 - 21:28
            +7

            @serpserpserp: I shake my fist but at different pictures. ;)

      • dufflover on 16/10/2018 - 18:45

        On a related thought, I wonder how the person would react if you made it very obvious that you half-pulled in, and take your time taking a photo of them with your phone. No comments or expressions or gestures, I just wonder how they'd react. Like confront you more, or think there's no "evidence" they'd get into trouble, etc.

        • [Deactivated] on 16/10/2018 - 21:28

          I've never been confronted more. I guess I have too friendly a face. :D

    • dust on 17/10/2018 - 09:15

      Yep, that's the issue with trying to 'enforce' rules such as first car to see the spot gets the spot.

  • 87percent on 16/10/2018 - 15:48

    I've seen cars intentionally park over 2 spots next to each other, to save the spot too.

    • SupeNintendoChalmers on 17/10/2018 - 15:31
      +21

      Someone did this to me once. He had a brand new M3, and obviously didn't want any scratches. Little did he know I was willing to park literally millimetres from his car and I exited my car via the boot.

      Sometimes you just have to prove the point so they learn.

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