Do You Ever Get Jealous of Those with Money?

I work 2 jobs 6 days a week around 47 hours a week. I was at my second job chatting to a member off staff when he told me he worked 3 days a week (maybe 24 hour a week) and basically worked for the sake of getting out of the house.

He was divorced and his two kid had recently moved out of home and was saying his family was loaded and his parents essentially paid for his house and his car and literally if he needed money he would call and ask and it was just a matter of how much $$$ he wanted.

It was at the moment I was like FML what do you mean you just ask and his response was ‘yeah If I want to go on holiday I just call dad and say dad I need a little bit of money like 20k and I jet set’

My first response was ‘20k! WTF that’s not a little money that’s massive’ his response was that’s nothing when I went to buy my son his 1st car his parents shelled out of a NEW BWM with extras and that was easily 80k’ and that ‘if he needed a million that wouldn’t be a problem’
He then told me basically his whole life paid for he has studied got his masters etc but had never struggle or worry about paying bills/rent/mortgage because he was 1 phone call away from cash

now lets get this straight he is a decent guy looked after his kids his wife left him for no good reason and left the kid behind and if he hadn’t told me his parents were multi-millionaires I wouldn’t of picked it. In no way was he gloating he was someone shocked I didn’t have such a safety net (my parents where not rich) and this only came up because I was saying how if I won the powerball this Thursday I’d pay off my house and probably change to 3 days a week like him

Now I like to think I’m not a vindictive man and generally I don’t care how rich someone is but that night left work a bit jealous because my whole life feels like a consent struggle to survive and achieve better and there was someone who basically been handed everything i wish i had…

Just wondering if i the only one?

For the record im not bitter or anything happy for my college just wish it was ME! sometimes

Comments

  • +56

    NO, Joe Hockey said, go get a better job.

    • +80

      No matter how much you have, there's always someone with more1. The key to happiness is to be content with what you have, anything more is a bonus.


      1. Except of course for the one with the most. *Ahem!* 

      • +26

        P.S. I'm currently lying on the couch (free) in my undies (free) with my pussycat (free, but worth $infinity) using my 2 year old phone ($59).

        And I couldn't care less who's driving a Lambo right now.

        • +4

          Got a pic to prove this? Just want to make sure you don't have a secret lambo hidden away somewhere.

        • +7

          in my undies (free)

          There is something wrong with me. I read this as you scored free undies somehow and all i want is the backstory

          • +1

            @4agte: Same! Shopping for undies off of clotheslines or were they a hand me down?! Context OP?

          • -1

            @4agte: Myer had a winter men's night a few years ago with various freebies and other promotions. One of them was a free pair of HK Man (Heidi Klum) undies if you agreed to tag them in an Instagram post. I got one pair and my friend at the time got me another. They're quite comfy.

            https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/196518

        • Wow. It's rare that someone reports they are exactly as you would guess they are.

        • I'm suspicious. IIRC Scrooge McDuck doesn't wear underwear. I bet this liar has a Lambo too!

      • +1

        Envy is always good, for me, it makes me work harder and challenge myself to improve my lifestyle. I am always looking at new ways to make a passive income stream, or earning more money to life a better lifestyle. It is within us that we naturally compare without thinking to much of it. When we compare it can in many ways make you feel like someone else is in a more comfortable place than you are.

        In the end, everyone is different, and I am started to appreciate myself more for the things that I have accomplished in this life.

        I work 80 hours per week, have a modest car, investment property and run a small business as well. Even though I work long hours, I have the fund to fund a better lifestyle and enjoy yearly holidays.

        For many, working 80 hours per week with a yearly income of about 90k isn't worth while. For me it is, as at lease I can travel end of the year. I am always looking at how to improve my income and how to establish something to earn more and have better working conditions.

        • your hourly wage is $21.63. For the amount of hours you commit to each week for work you would want a little more reward then $21.63. I mean how long can you be working 80 hours a week for. 30 years?! I don't think that's great lifestyle at all even if you get to go on a holiday at the end of the year. You'd be tired the rest of the whole year.

        • def not worth while for 80 hr weeks. stuff that!

      • Money does buy happiness, up to $75k (USD) according to this.

  • +34

    Passing feelings of "F*** I WISH I HAD THAT PERSON'S MONEY"? Definitely.

    Any lingering or deep down feelings? Not really - I don't believe in comparing myself to others, especially in terms of external financial wealth (as opposed to their own personal achievements). That can only lead to bitterness which is good for no one.

    What's that saying about you shouldn't look in anyone else's bowl other than to make sure they have enough?

    my whole life feels like a consent struggle to survive and achieve better and there was someone who basically been handed everything i wish i had…

    If it makes you feel any better, 99% of people are in your position and not in your colleague's position, so if the revolution ever comes, he'll be up against the wall slightly before you are.

  • +15

    its the Instagram effect

    • +1

      Its the snapchat effect

      • +2

        It's the Google+ effect

        • +13

          You mean it was the google+ effect ?

        • -1

          It's the Doppler effect.

  • +7

    Classic example of someone born with a silver spoon in their mouth.

    • +23

      But even then his wife left him. Even the rich have bad things happen to them. Is he happy?

      On topic. I don’t get jealous of Other Peoples’ Money. I just get jealous of what they can do with it 🤩

      • +4

        His wife left him for no good reason, probably because she married him for no good reason.

        I really don't understand how wealthy men think that marrying a gold digger will work out well.

        • +3

          I would try my best to ensure she doesn't know about my wealth, until see she ain't just a gold digger, cos she and messing with no broke 'person of colour':)

      • +2

        I get jealous of what they dont have to put up with to earn money. If their job fills them with hate, stress and anger they can up and leave with no repercussions and find a newer better one without worrying.

        Off topic. It's much worse when the people who earn more than me, but spend frivolously on holidays (as well as pointless stuff to impress other people), literally hate on me for having savings from being stingy.

    • +6

      i was born with a silver spoon in my butt

      • +3

        You are lucky, mine was wooden.

        • Bamboo you mean

        • So were Carlton…..

      • Laughed out loud the whole office heard

  • +24

    Of course I do. Who doesn't like money or what money can bring you.

    Am I bitter? No.

    Kudos to your colleague, he could have been an Grade A a-hole but he sounds like a decent guy.

    • im certainly not bitter just wish it was me too!!!

      • +2

        If you'd like some exposure therapy, sneak into a high roller room at a casino. You'll see people blow house deposit amounts on each hand/roll/spin!

        • +1

          True. 1 of my siblings was living in affluent suburb, started going out gambling with high Rollers…. His friend won a car and all these lights etc were going off at casino, and his friend got annoyed because the hand or whatever was more important (and I guess more $$$) then the car win. Lol .

          • +1

            @Flanders: i been high roller room meet some lovely very bitter people. money does not make people happy.

      • I find I just focus on my own life and not even really care about where others are or what they are buying or doing, doesn't phase me

    • +3

      he could have been an Grade A a-hole but he sounds like a decent guy.

      While this is true and I don't want to take away anything from OP's colleague for being a decent guy (even working when the doesn't have to - I'm not sure I would in his position), the stereotype of rich people born into money being assholes is very very overblown.

      I'd even go as far as to say, there are probably proportionally more assholes who don't have money, than assholes who do. We just notice the latter group a lot more, add in some natural jealousy/bitterness to those with money, and people just like to think they're all assholes.

      • +1

        According to Jordan Peterson, you're wrong, it's the disagreeable people (ahem assholes ahem) that manage to be successful (and rich).

        • +6

          That's more likely if you're self made. But if you're born into money and raised well, then they aren't necessarily disagreeable people.

          Just my $2 million dollars worth. ahem

        • +1

          There's a difference between being rich and necessarily successful. I mean - OP's colleague is a great example. Rich but not really 'successful' in any objective sense. And there are a lot more people who're assholes and try to be successful and aren't, than those who make it. And those who do make it, would at most be 'nouveau-riche', and make up only a proportion of all rich people in total.

          (And old money hate the nouveau-riche too, but probably for slightly different reasons).

      • Undeserved wealth can have a very damaging effect on a persons outlook. They feel like they're being judged, and end up digging in and creating justifications on why they deserve it. Often the way they do that is by putting others down, because its easier to make negative believable statements about others than it is to make positive ones about yourself. This is a well known psychological phenomena

        • Often the way they do that is by putting others down

          Apparently, so can just being poor. Because if nothing else, this thread shows that being rich is definitely not the only cause of this.

          • @HighAndDry: Yep, very true. The poor are often that way because of bad choices, and they love to blame anyone they can for it.
            But its not about whose better or more deserving, its about who has the power to change things.

      • Perhaps.. seems more matter of fact.

        Plus if you're friends, I guess you tell your life story.

      • +4

        Or it's called making conversation with colleagues. It's not like OP is a pauper or homeless person where mentioning money would be tactless.

  • ask for some ransom ?

  • +2

    would ALWAYS be able to use more money…….BUT,

    chosen a career and employment that instead gives me 'enough' money, plus time with the kids and slightly less stress than working for every extra few % of income and it being a total Sh1tstorm every day. That's always an option in the future I guess to climb the ladder and battle it out but family time is more important and we're not starving so can't complain, I chose not to strive to earn a seven figure salary so the outcome (less $$$) is on me, not the worlds fault We can't buy a private island.

    I'd love to win the lotto, but that'd mean I'd need to start buying a ticket!

  • +71

    in a way your friend is a failure. He didn't build upon what he was born into. He hasn't grown up and is still relying on his parents, to support his own family.

    You, however, worked your arse off and have made everything from your own effort; to support your family too. And you will continue to build upon this with what you've learnt.

    Money is nice, but honestly, you will only appreciate something if you work hard for it. On the other hand, if it was given to you, you would not value it as much.

    • +7

      in a way your friend is a failure.

      Do we really need to put others down to make OP (or more honestly, yourself) feel better in this way? You'd probably also be the first to say, money and achievements aren't as important as how happy you are, so if OP's colleague is happy where he is, wife leaving him notwithstanding, is there any justification to put him down like this?

      • +6

        meh, you can twist words and what not to whatever makes you happy. Depending on your own belief system, you can say this is better, or that's better. For some, it's doing something with your life, instead of just meandering with what you've got. For others it's having a big happy family. For some, it's just get shit loads of money and screw whatever everyone else think. No need to get offended or putting anyone down, because everyone is different. So take your pick.

        My point was: "in a way…". Ie, one point of view.

        EDIT:
        thanks tshow, just my point exactly. Each to their own

        • +1

          I'm not sure tshow is agreeing with you - Maybachs are rich people cars. But I actually don't know.

          In any case - there's no point in saying "I feel like [person] is failing" - this is exactly the comparing yourself to others that I disagree with. If you depend on that kind of external validation to feel good about yourself - i.e. "Look I'm doing better than [person]" - you'll never be actually content.

          What if OP meets someone who came from a worse background than them, and is still more successful? Should OP feel like a failure in comparison then according to your logic?

          • @HighAndDry: I reckon I'm clear enough with my previous statement.

            tshow's pov is as long as he is rich, everyone else can bugger all.

            someone else's pov of success is growth through life.

            Someone else's pov of success is being charitable (insert other goals).

            it's not about external validation, it's about your own belief system. My comment was in regards to my pov (which is what OP was asking).

            What YOU feel when you are presented in this situation is of your OWN experience. Jealousy? Drive to be successfull? Indifference?

            It's not about guessing what others would feel. You don't know me, op, or his colleague.

            Have a good one.

            • +3

              @mbck: Sure, my view is, to put it simply, instead of:

              in a way your friend is a failure. He didn't build upon what he was born into. He hasn't grown up and is still relying on his parents, to support his own family.

              You, however, worked your arse off and have made everything from your own effort; to support your family too. And you will continue to build upon this with what you've learnt.

              Which predicates OP's success by comparing to that of his richer colleague and putting down that richer colleague, why not just say:

              You worked your arse off and have made everything from your own effort; to support your family too. And you will continue to build upon this with what you've learnt. And that's something to be proud of in and of itself.

              ? No need to compare to anyone else. OP should be proud of where he is because of what he's achieved. That's it.

            • @mbck: BTW, I'm not rich.

              I am comfortable but I still have to rock up to work tomorrow.

          • +1

            @HighAndDry:

            I'm not sure tshow is agreeing with you - Maybachs are rich people cars. But I actually don't know.

            I was just trying to twist the old addage about the Mercedes and the bicycle.

          • +1

            @HighAndDry:

            external validation to feel good about yourself - i.e. "Look I'm doing better than [person]" - you'll never be actually content.

            True, and such validation is flawed and absolutely pointless. Each of us is an individual with so many differences (including skills, aptitude, goals, and what is important to them) .
            Only person to compare yourself with and 'compete' with is YOURSELF ie. Try to do best you can towards attaining or not attaining (mindfulness) what is valued to you.

    • +1

      Mate, I rather be laughed at in my Maybach than do the laughing outside that strangely branded car I have never heard off.

      Flopping upwards is upwards all the same.

    • +2

      Sugar coating to make yourself feel better? One way to over come it :)

    • +4

      Money is nice, but honestly, you will only appreciate something if you work hard for it.

      Guess who won't be getting a birthday present this year!

      • Guess who won't be getting a birthday present this year!

        Be right for xmas presents though.. it's alot of hard work being nice and not naughty , especially under the pressure being surveilled constantly ;)

    • +5

      Money is nice, but honestly, you will only appreciate something if you work hard for it. On the other hand, if it was given to you, you would not value it as much.

      Isn't this just being materialistic? Value shouldn't come from the effort you put into something. It comes from what it provides to you. The price tag and sacrifice you made shouldn't be a consideration for the things you already have. You shouldn't value the more expensive car in your garage if the cheaper model does everything better and makes you happier

      Having lots of money just means you don't have to waste your energy getting money, so your efforts can be spent on other things. Once your family is free from the threat of starvation and homelessness, you can spend time with them and have good relationships.

    • mbck,never a truer statement made.
      I am like everyone else…daydream about being one of the two people who won the powerball a couple of months ago,and each walked away with 50 million each (yeah,should buy a ticket one day),or what it is like to be born with the surname Packer / Murdoch / Rothschild (and i won't lie,i mentally buy that mansion in Point Piper / the chateau in Nice and a home for each of my sister in laws…whilst thinking how wonderful life would be to not have the stress that my own and my hubby's job brings us.We would both do volunteer work with children and animals,which would bring us both a sense of still being useful in society,AND doing something we both feel passionately about),but then i think "God no.It was sheer luck this is why we can do this…not actual hard work.The reason for that is exactly as you said…to work for your wealth is an infinitely more satisfying feeling,and one that you appreciate so much more (no,i'm not wealthy…yes we can pay our bills and not sweat too much),whilst having to rely on the bank of Mummy and Daddy is not an achievement (in fact,for a grown adult,it is a little pathetic.If ever you have seen The Big Bang Theory,and know the character "Raj",you will know what i mean).
      We do have family members who have well off parents / inherited money and assets,and i don't feel jealous there..i feel sorry for them.
      My Dad left me a little when he recently passed,and whilst it is a help,it isn't getting me a brand new Beemer,but i know the hell he had to go through to have that money at all…and i cherish every damn cent.The things that Dad left that ARE valuable to me from him are his war medals (a 16 year old boy went OS to fight to get those so that i may work to get the home i own now).With THAT,i am wealthy beyond 5o mill.

    • And this is why most lottery winners end up broke and unhappy.

      Having money does make you happier, up to the point where you're in the upper middle class, and after that it doesn't seem to matter too much.

      The only amount of money that would make me happier is the amount which would allow me to quit my job, and even then I'd need to find something that I could do every day without getting bored.

    • 100% agreed. He has a masters degree but still asks parents for money?

      Dont care how rich he is, that is pathetic.

      OP, nothing to be jealous about. Even if my parents had that kind of money I would never ask for it.

      Disgraceful.

  • +25

    Don't believe everything people tell you.

    • Should I believe you?

      • +7

        Of course

        • +10

          That sounds like something a person who I shouldn't trust would say…

    • +3

      I work with a bloke who claimed he'd payed cash for his expensive fast car, however running a PPSR check showed that it was on a rather long lease.

      Another guy claims to have all sorts of money after splitting with his girlfriend of many years and selling their vast property portfolio. Yet he lives with relatives and is always hanging out for payday. He was found out when he applied for credit to buy some white goods and they rang work.

      • +1

        Quite amusing that people would make themselves appear richer than they are.

        • +1

          I think this case is the opposite. OP is the one who cares about money - OP's friend seems to not be splashing money about, to the point that until he told OP about it, OP had no idea.

          • @HighAndDry: It's always the quiet ones…

            I wear flash Gucci & Armani jeans with the hopes that I people assume I am wealthy. I flaunt my gear and supposed lifestyle on social media to make people envious too, and I bought a Mercedes to show what a high-roller I am. Yep livin the dream… seriously guys, just believe me!

            —— on a serious note—-
            Went to a store with the Mrs (who strongly believes that mrs isn't her title) and was told by shop attendant "no, you have to wear this so you look wealthy to others" … and me looking thoroughly well-to-do with my flip flops & 3/4 track pants… cool.

            Some people just have that temperament & want to look successful. Sad but true. One of my mates, when a teenager, would try to buy high-end gear to look cool/wealthy (wait for it) I remember him getting Louis Vuitton undies - I was like… wtf man, who cares!

            • +1

              @khomeini:

              Louis Vuitton undies

              That's actually hilarious. Did he think once he got a girl to that stage, they'd run away on seeing him wear normal Bonds briefs like a pleb?

              But yeah. I know a lot of very very wealthy people that you wouldn't know was rich just by looking at them. They wear jeans, polos, sports jackets - good but not ostentatious brands (Levis, Polos, etc). Drive ten year old Audis or BMWs, etc. If you saw them on the street you would say they're comfortably off, but nothing like their actual networth.

              • +3

                @HighAndDry: A good friend of mine is like that. He's single, has been an engineer for 30 years, and lives cheaply. He casually mentioned to me a while ago that his accountant told him he should retire as he has a few million in super, but he seems to enjoy his job, and I think he'd be bored out of his brain if he didn't go to work.

  • +2

    Yes, jealousy is good, very good. It makes me want to work harder/smarter and make my money work harder/smarter so that I can get to a place where I feel good about myself. People around me, believe I have a pretty fortunate life and I agree but at the same time, I know I want more and what I have now, is not enough. It's a good cycle.

    • +5

      so that I can get to a place where I feel good about myself.

      To what degree?

      Could you arrange your life so that you feel good about yourself now and throughout the journey?

      • Would you rather feel good, or look down upon others from your towering achievements born of insecurity?

        A more genuine question than it might seem - I actually struggle with this quite a bit. Contentment is basically another word for complacency.

        Edit: To paraphrase a world-renowned doctor, I suppose it would particularly suck to have incredible insecurity and still achieve nothing.

        • +4

          Feeling good is the greatest good1. I do not find looking down on others enjoyable. Supremacy is a lonely proposition.

          Contentment is only complacency when viewed from a fearful perspective.


          1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonism 

      • To what degree?

        I don't know, every one is different and have different levels / degrees etc.

        What I want to say is that 'jealousy can be a good thing' especially if that 'feeling' can motivate and change your behaviour so that you take steps to try and make your own life more positive.

        • Envy is always good, for me, it makes me work harder and challenge myself to improve my lifestyle. I am always looking at new ways to make a passive income stream, or earning more money to life a better lifestyle. It is within us that we naturally compare without thinking to much of it. When we compare it can in many ways make you feel like someone else is in a more comfortable place than you are.

          In the end, everyone is different, and I am started to appreciate myself more for the things that I have accomplished in this life.

          I work 80 hours per week, have a modest car, investment property and run a small business as well. Even though I work long hours, I have the fund to fund a better lifestyle and enjoy yearly holidays.

          For many, working 80 hours per week with a yearly income of about 90k isn't worth while. For me it is, as at lease I can travel end of the year. I am always looking at how to improve my income and how to establish something to earn more and have better working conditions.

  • +10

    If I see someone under the age of 50 with expensive things I just assume they're riddled with debt. And if someone brags about how much money they have I just don't believe them. Suits me just fine, I couldn't care about someone else's financial situation. Would getting 5 million tomorrow be nice? Sure it would, but for now I'm quite content with where I am and driving around my 16 year old car.

    • +14

      My wife always asks me how friends and others we know can afford to drive around in new flashy cars while we have older cars. I have to keep reminding her that they most likely have a loan for the car and we own our cars

      • +2

        What if one day you find out they've just been wildly successful and bought those cars outright, have emergency funds, a well-performing property portfolio, savings for their kids' schooling and university, and a family trust fund with millions in it?

      • +6

        My dad used to work with car fleet providers. He heard from Mercedes and other euro dealers that they would often have to repossess cars, and find people living in almost empty apartments because they were all outside flash, hoping the money would come later

        • reminds me of that episode of breaking bad. when skylar helped that guy out to pay of his tax debt with the cash or something and he went out and bought a new mercedes with it.

          shoulda got heisenberg on his ass

      • -3

        If my wife asked me things like that I would be offended. Sounds like you are the bread winner if she's asking you about those things. Tell her to get off her arse and work if she wants a fancy new car.

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