The Samsung 42" (106Cm) Widescreen Plasma TV has an integrated HD Tuner that will allow you to watch free-to-air HD channels. This HD TV features screen resolution of 1024 x 768, 3 HDMI inputs, clear picture panel and a USB 2.0 movie play function.
someone will say something about price in title
Will it be you?
Apparently it is $598
Bought my parents a full hidef panasonic neo plasma for $200 more a couple of weeks ago so not that good a deal inho.
What? No one crying about the resolution yet?
apparently not…yet… lol
Oh, I think ausbob's was a bit of a backhander though! ;)
Didn't realise they still made 1024x768 TVs. Sounds like a cheap monitor from the 90s.
The relevance? In the real world this thing will still look better than most 1080p LCDs.
Ok Marto, after all of your other posts we get it; you're anti-LCD!
Belabouring the LCD vs. Plasma point is just as irrelevant as complaining about the res! ;)
Actually Marto is right. I have a 1024x768 plasma connected to Foxtel, and all the normal SD Foxtel channels look AWESOME on it. Compare this to SD Foxtel on a Full HD plasma… might as well watch pixelated Youtube
To bazza236, the reason why SD Foxtel on a Full HD plasma looks worse than a 1024x768 plasma is because there are more pixels on a Full HD TV. This is because with all that extra pixels on a Full HD TV will show more detail/flaws of the source material (SD Foxtel) than on a HD set, which would result in a more pixelated/blurred image.
So effectively the 1024x768 TV just hides the flaws better (since it cannot display the smaller artifacts)
News flash bazza, not everyone watches Foxtel, nor watches everything in SD on a HD set…ergo, your analogy is worthless for the purposes of this discussion! ;)
I know the part about hiding the deficiencies of the screen, but the thing is, why would you want a panel that displays all the deficiencies when its in its normal use? Look some people might watch Bluray 1080p and thats it but I can bet you thats not the norm, or else there would be no business for Free to Air or Foxtel
Look bazza236, some of the HD stuff comes to mind:
1024x768 is fine if you're not too fuss about image quality. But to most people they like to spend a little more $$$ to get a much better set. Try go to Hardly Normal and see for yourself :)
Honestly tho I think the price of this TV is ludicrous! you would easily get a full HD TV (plasma or LCD) for a couple of hundred more!
Purely using LCD as a comparison in the resolution stakes, they are usually of a higher resolution but look inferior to Plasma.. hence the argument that resolution is not as important as your local JBHIFI $hit for brains staff claim.
double facepalm
FFS Marto, the only person saying anything about LCD vs Plasma is YOU!!! Some of these guys would be referring to higher resolution PDPs as well!!!
LCD v Plasma is about color contract, longetivity of screen and pricing. Not resolution.
definitely not a good deal in my books…like ausbob71 said, you can get a fullhd set for 1-200 more…
meh. cheaper here: http://www.lasoo.com.au/search/PS42C451.html
(at eljo with coupon = 589 + delivery)
not a good deal. for this sort of resolution i would only pay about $200-$250 for the tv.
9/10 of what people watch is not 1080p source, so why put so much emphasis on resolution? There is a whole LOT more to what makes a good panel than just resolution. You would buy a 40inch crapola LG 1080p LCD over this for the same money instead?
9/10 of what people watch is not 1080p source
Seriously dude, how do you know what sources 90% of other people watch??? Any valid points you do make are undermined with sweeping comments like that!
9/10 is probably pretty accurate, when you think about this:
So unless someone only watches Bluray, I would say Marto's comment's pretty spot on.
Wow bazza, I find it pretty amazing that anyone is conceited enough to presume to speak for nine tenths of the population's viewing preferences! Now we have at least two! Congrats! ;)
I'm just glad you're both not speaking for me, coz you'd be way off! Actually, about 90% of my viewing is 720p or 1080p!!! :)
FWIW, you're actually overestimating FTA…AFAIK not much of FTA TV is in 1080i anyway…not that I watch the idiot box (FTA or pay) per se, but last I checked the best was around 576i!
I dont get it, StewBalls - if you watch 720p, why would you want a Full HD panel? A 1024x768 panel displays 720p better than a Full HD panel, I would have thought you would know that.
Thank you also for being conceited enough to call me out for being conceited… ;)
Ok bazza, let's clear up a misconception here…1024*768 does not display 720p better than higher resolution panels, it comes down to how the particular set handles scaling of the image…got that??? This ain't my first rodeo, cowboy! :p
Prior to my current 55" 'full HD' set, I had a 42" 1366*768 set; both do a fine job at all resolutions. I simply wanted a bigger TV for a bigger room, it came with the res, I didn't particularly choose it. It's in a bright room, that's why I chose LCD, I have nothing against PDP, horses for courses!!!
Remember, when we're discussion conceit, I'm not the one presuming to know the viewing sources of 90% of HDTV owners, you guys are…you might wanna look up the meaning of the word!
"FWIW, you're actually overestimating FTA…AFAIK not much of FTA TV is in 1080i anyway…not that I watch the idiot box (FTA or pay) per se, but last I checked the best was around 576i!"
9 out of every 10 ozbargain readers didn't understand 9 out of these 10 acronyms/descriptions
;-)
The tvs good for the money , I wouldnt spend $200 extra for full hd especially a panasonic u or s series.
Most people watch normal tv with maybe a few blu rays every now and then….this set is fine.
If you want a cheap brand name tv from a place you can go back to this is a good deal.
What is power consumption like for Plasma and LCD?
Which uses less power?
& thanks Stewballs, from that i take it LCD is better for bright rooms.
On paper LCD (esp LED backlit) uses a bit less power, but in practice a modern PDP is pretty darn close to older CCFL LCDs, though not yet close to LEDs!
Some folks have posted figures about the differences in past threads, I can't remember them offhand but running the set for 8-12hrs per day IIRC the difference is pretty much negligible! ;)
Yep, definitely LCD is the way to go in a brightly lit room; and in dark rooms PDP wins hands down (despite the advances in contrast & real blacks in LCD). Both technologies have their pro's & con's! If you google LCD vs Plasma you'll actually find a wealth of information, just make sure it's currrent & reliable! ;)
IMHO, it all comes down to personal choice, go look at the TVs you're interested in buying in action, good retailers will have a dedicated HT room where you can check out a few models side-by-side! I wouldn't let power consumption make the choice, IMHO that's down to price/image quality!
In addition to Stew's last paragraph, have the retailer play something you're familiar with when testing the panel. Often you'll see animated movies displayed, which really 'pop' on all panels(especially LCD/LED under the bright lights in-store. I'm yet to see any sport(w/panning camera) look anything but better than average on an LCD/LED…
Often you'll see animated movies displayed, which really 'pop' on all panels
Very true, it's easy to make any panel look good with animations! Try to watch something with some dark scenes/blacks too, to see if you're ok with the blacks/contrast levels or potential light bleeding of LCD! ;)
I'm yet to see any sport(w/panning camera) look anything but better than average on an LCD/LED
This I would disagree with though! You're biased Marto, even you'd agree with that. There are some good LCD panels out there that do very well with fast motion. :)
Don't buy into the whole 100/120/200Hz 'motion compensation' thing with LCD either though; I've seen native 50Hz sets that thoroughly outperform 100/120Hz 'MC' units! I actually don't like MC much at all, IME when improperly implemented it tends to make many movies/TV shows look somewhat 'unreal', and doesn't really work that well on fast motion anyway! ;)
Take home message once again; irrespective of technology; it's purely personal choice: Look, Like, Buy! :)
Thanks folks! all this 'direct' infor helps alot :)
Yes i had googled, and found an ABUNDANCE of info.(Alot of older, not much newer)
Aahh, is that what motion compensation is.. I think i experienced the 'unreal' thing - i was watching my sisters TV awhile back and all the TV shows looked like they weren't real.. (Was very hard to explain to her what i was seeing!) in the end i thought that it had been slightly sped-up or something (Even though it played the same speed as their kids CRT..)
Cheers!
Please put the price on, otherwise who knows this is a deal?