Discover Islam Australia is an Islamic Australian organisation based in Brisbane dedicated to peace, harmony and goodwill through knowledge of Islam. They offer free Islamic music and literature to your door if you fill out the following contact form http://discoverislamaustralia.com/index.php?option=com_conta….
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why would it be inappropriate? It's free. Anything free is a bargain :)
The reason I has created this post was to give the OzB community access to an alternative freebie and it has been met with very negative reception. Now someone explain to me the merits of the Christian post over this one? This is a valid point for discussion, and I believe that this is an example of discriminative behaviour in a secular society.
Nahhh just democratic majority.
Perhaps you're missing something here.
"If this post gets deleted then we clearly know that OzBargain is moderated by pro-Christians that disrespect other religions and cultures."
LOL seriously…ur gonna go there??
EXACTLY what I was thinking. Thank you.
I've removed your ridiculous and troll worthy description. I don't appreciate the personal attack dman or the assumption that all the moderators are pro-Christian.
P.S. For the record, I don't follow any religion except the religion of OzBargain (and the cult of Zgeek)
"If this post gets deleted then we clearly know that OzBargain is moderated by pro-Christians that disrespect other religions and cultures."
No, I equally disrespect all religions. You're not special.
Evidence? Genuinely interested here.
Yeah, no cheap condom posts here at all, http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/32781, http://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/condom
Thanks for the condom post Neil - that's my next 50 birthdays sorted.
So you were just trolling then? Mission accomplished!
Loving the comments so far.
"If this post gets deleted then we clearly know that OzBargain is moderated by pro-Christians that disrespect other religions and cultures"
You can only imagine pro-Christians deleting your post???
So you see anyone "against Islam" as pro-Christian automatically?
That is so revealing and disturbing at the same time.
Wow with wow on top….
Why are people negging this? If it's free then so what, I don't follow any religions but a free Christian cd was posted on here today and that got 22+ and 0 negs, both are preaching.
The reason I has created this post was to give the OzB community access to an alternative freebie and it has been met with very negative reception. Now someone explain to me the merits of the Christian post over this one?
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm lets see, P.R. issue?
dman, i think you have to see the "bargain" for what it is in itself…aside from all the religious stuff clouding the issue.
the Christian music which you mention is not normally "free" (without going into the reasons for why one should pay for Christian music in the first place, that would be a completely different debate ) - this stuff is always free.
so i suppose it's like any other deal that gets removed/deleted because it's always free (software,etc)…nothing against the nature of the material itself.
I think that because you have turned it into a religious debate now, you've put the mods in an unfair situation in terms of removing the post (which they would in any other circumstance)
Good mate, clear thinking in a cloudy area.
Fully agree.
sits back and waits for the scientology freebie
jumps on Oprah's couch in anticipation
Most people negged because originally there was a suggestion that the mods are ignorant christians who would delete this post.
Actually I would neg it (the Christian CD) for preaching. I am sick of all religions preaching. With Christianity we get free stuff on streets, through tv, through university. I may be cheap but I am not stupid enough to think..yay freebie.
Its not a freebie if it has an agenda this extreme. Should I put up "free" Scientology starter kits?
In regards to motive, not all deals are targeted at everyone. If I'm not in the market for a hard drive, I don't click on the hard drive deal. Deals are posted and whoever wants to take advantage of a particular deal can do so. Likewise, in this case, music that is not usually free was shared for people to download if they wished to.
As rational human beings, we have a choice whether to click on a deal or not - the deal was clearly labelled [Christian], and it wasn't being forced onto you apart from passively appearing on your screen.
I'm negging because I don't think it's an offer appropriate for Ozbargain. I would neg giving out free bibles, pro or anti choice material etc etc.
This is not a forum for spreading beliefs - it's about saving moolah.
I'm with you pal.
Lets keep the religion out of saving the dollarios.
I'd vote for a "no religious posts" policy.
All dangerous fairy tales to me…
And here I was thinking the condom issue was cause by a bunch of prudes who are embarassed to think people actually buy and use condoms for…. shhhhhh…. sex
For god sake dman801, just leave this thread alone, you are giving all Muslims a bad rep. The quran would be an interesting read, so lets just leave it at that.
You have given the material, let people make up their own mind.
Islam.
Mmmmmm did somebody say lamb?
"Garlic sauce boys?"
mods, can we perhaps have all the comments about this thread removed? or perhaps have it reposted with out the comments. This is just gonna turn into a religion bashing thread and nothing more.
dman801 has effectively just destroyed this freebie with his comments.
agree with you.
Yes, I believe we have been moving free religious texts to the forum, http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/40971.
Music, software or other derivatives are probably OK in the bargain section.
MOVED TO FORUMS
Agreed. I would have probably gone for it for curiosity's sake, but his initial comment just killed it for me.
Guys, just to say, this should be moved to the forums, just read, I don't mean no harm/arguments
Because the Truth is for FREE.
Follow those who ask of you no fee, and who are rightly guided.
Due to the fact that this was already FREE to begin with
Everything on this page is free to download*, but this offer will only last until May 23rd
unlike this
honestly though, i don't get the point to start religious wars here
Bible: 96:0
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/39188
Qu'ran 4:4
Sorry to be serious but personally I think a few people should be ashamed of themselves.
I think the OP started off the wrong foot. also, as an follower of the invisible pink unicorn, I am tempted to vote this down.
I didn't see the original post … rather looking at the bigger picture.
this is just as annoying as posting a bargain on OZbargain and saying 'please go easy' , as if assuming the rest of the group are nasty people.
the world doesn't revolve around pro-christian/islam as far as i am concerned, even though there are a crap load of both followers, it is just a very narrow view of the world, imo, and that's quite sad.
I'm sorry, but my invisible blue unicorn is the real deal, and for believing in the wrong thing, you're going to burn in an unproven hell for what is likely more than several trillion years :) Have a nice day.
psst.. google IPU, my religion has a wiki, yours doesn't.. so my religion > yours. :P
Yes. Thou shalt not worship false idols.
I agree, the bible post should have been heavily neg'ed too.
i disagree, because it was avaliable FREE for a limited time, hence it was a bargain
Sorry mxyzptik, but IMO the deals aren't directly comparable. The deal you quoted was a time-limited digital download (no personal details required), whereas this one is for printed materials sent to your home/nominated address. Bit of a difference there.
As an atheist I vote down any post with a religion based offering….as a did a couple of years ago with the controversial Christian Sausage Sizzle.
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/17610
PS Oh, almost forgot……Ala Akbar.
Since your an Athiest, which is that your belief is that you dont believe, so i guess that makes your non-belief a religious belief of non-believing. :)
Didn't you read his last line? He believes in Admiral Ackbar.
"It's a trap"
I note that Bilal Philips is one of the speakers on the 'Free Audio CDs' - he was recently expelled from Germany for defending the use of the death penalty to punish homosexuality (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,6510494,00.html).
"free Islamic music"
I don't actually see any on the website, but isn't music considered un-Islamic by many scholars? http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1786&CATE=142
ok seriously?!!!! even here ?!! and Pro-christians ?!! offensive post, the whole post is wrong and does not fit here.
you started your peace make loving post with an attack on another religion, how peaceful!.
Watch out, if you sign up for this they may keep contacting you about how it effected you, I remember coca cola did this when they sent out a free voucher and kept asking how it was.
lol I can see the link there… Islam and Coca Cola. I knew they would get found out one day. :)
We preach peace and harmony, but if you don't agree you're pro-Christian bastards….
Neg for the attitude and neg for the content. FYI if someone was posting bibles on here and was the nicest person in the world, it would be slightly different, I'd only neg for the content.
I wear short shorts when I read this book
i feel how wise and nice you are , and the ops need to be carefull about the language here
No one is forcing anyone to look at the deal, like it, or download the songs. If I usually have to pay for a Qu'ran but someone is giving them away and I was interested in getting one then that deal would be useful to me. But I'm not so I don't bother with the link. I'm not going to neg the deal. Free stuff is free stuff. But I'd be wary of catches like Gecko mentioned.
hint: people don't really want to talk about religion, because it usually is the cause of really really bad sh1t fights. (ie. my god is bigger and more real than your god)
Agreed.
Good point.
This will be epic.
Years from now we will be asking "Where were you when the 'islamic freebie' was posted on ozbargain?"
not giving a damn like the rest of the people?
Religions and Politics should stay out of Ozbargain
Is it just me, or is the reaction received, exactly what the initial poster was looking for? Never seen an offer here slag off mods et al up front, and he/she had to know those comments would anger people and lead to neg votes.
There have been plenty that slag off mods over something they're passionate about, it's just they're gone before you can see them ;D
I don't have a problem with people questioning our decisions but there is a line you cross when you lie and attack users whether a moderator or not. Dman while posting good deals has a penance to posting the occasional trolling description for religiously themed posts (e.g. An outdoor inflatable waving Santa where in the description he mentioned it to piss off neighbors with different religions). Even the user's location in the profile is trolling.
It worries me that I recognise the location.
I'm not sure what the issue is….. The guidelines are pretty clear on the subject….
Products that have just become free or free for limited time is a legitimate bargain
Products that are always free are welcomed, but should be placed in the forums
Religion doesn't come into it……
Religion doesn't come into it……
except if you're hyper-regilious about your anti-religion, and can't make / see that distinction? :)
still shouldn't make a difference…… the deal may be commented on…. as any deal, (debate is always good)….. but shouldn't be negged because of personal axe grinding.
in case it wasn't clear, i was actually agreeing with you andy…
ahhh…. flew straight over my head :)
for the record, and as has been stated/alluded to by others already, the free christian music post (to which the OP of this post was responding) is for mp3s from commercially released albums that are not normally free. these two albums (physical CDs) currently retail for $19.95 and $14.95 at stores like koorong (yes, a "christian" store), and online from sites like emu music (yes, a "christian" site). afaik the mp3 tracks are not normally sold/available.
the artist behind the albums works in/with christian music for a living (source). so while he may not be "well known" to you, it's not quite the same comparison as
anyone with their garage/myspace/high-school band releas[ing] their crap as "free" but pay[ing] some guy to try sell it on iTunes too.
I never really tried to directly compare this Christian artist's music to "anyone with their garage/myspace/high-school band releas[ing] their crap as "free" but pay[ing] some guy to try sell it on iTunes too.", but merely showed how hard it is to police genuine deals with the rise of digital music stores.
For example, I think I'd get quite ridiculed if I posted a deal for iTunes "song of the week/viedo clip of the week", even if the occasional artists are actually fairly well known, and every other week it is charged at full price. On the other side of the coin, any garage/myspace/high-school band, can record a few tracks, and put their stuff out on iTunes quite easily, yet feel the need to release free tracks on their website anyway to gain exposure.
@tailgatinholden - I read your comment as essentially saying that it's hard to mod free music posts because it could just be "crap", rather than a "good deal" (which in your example is one from a "well known group"). I'm pointing out that while the Christian artist/music may not be as "well known", neither is he "just anyone" by consequence, based on the reasons I listed.
So I agree that it's not necessarily an easy topic to moderate, but also saying that as an example the recent Christian music post would probably fall somewhere in between the "good deal from a well known group" and "crap/no deal from just anyone", if those were your (only) categories and criteria.
1 question tho, do religion text/literature always cost money? i got the feeling you posted this is because its freebies but the fact that whenever you visit a church/mosque/temples, there are publications which was printed by using donations from publics for those who are interested in the religion.
Most of the time those publications dont even cost a dime to ppl who are interested, but you posted this and expect a great thumbs up because they are free? if so, we will have each religion relation society to post up free publications and it will flood the website with all these so called freebies deal. I dont think this is why the website is set up for. Hence this will be somehow an advertisement than bargain. So either way it should be negged, in my opinion. nothing to do with religion, but just deal itself is not a bargain
imho its pretty basic
if it cost money, and now its free it might be a bargain
if its normally free its not a bargain
there are issues I guess if its illegal or against posting guidelines
as for Anti-Islam = Christain thats just plain odd
Intolerance knows no boundaries
I know plenty of Christains who while not agreeing with Islam respect the rights of its followers, only asking the same back
You do not have to agree with everyone to get by, rather boring world otherwise :P
this post should be remove in the first place, not related with bargain what so ever, if u want to discuss about ur faith and spread ur faith, you should post to religious forum. NOT OZBARGAIN FORUM.
Naw - the post is fun… and hey - free stuff is still stuff, and free!
The best sort of stuff right?
I remember as a kid the local church gave away glow-in-the-dark crosses - what a clever marketing ploy - kid, scared of the dark, hiding under the covers with a bit of security light!
Free bibles, qu'ran, Books of Mormon, watch towers - bit less clever, but handy, esp if printed on soft paper!
Lol, no I don't subscribe to a faith, but always happy to listen to see if they have a good argument. (And tease the ones that don't)
Keep the posts coming
can anyone tell me, why these people need to recruit new person join their religion, why can't they fix their current member first. i don't said specific religion. in general every religion should have some extremist, why can't they convert all this extremist before they recruit new member. it seems like a broken home family try to teach other family member how good they are. seriously, if you can't teach your own family member the right thing, don't try to teach other family that your family is good. full stop.
Is this stuff really appropriate for Ozbargain? It seems like preaching to me.