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Apple 10.5 Inch iPad Pro (2017) Wi-Fi 64GB - Space Grey $698 Pickup or + Delivery @ Harvey Norman

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A pretty good clearance price on the base model 2017 iPad Pro, probably due to the release of the new iPad Air/Mini.

Still in stock in Blacktown and Castle Hill HN stores.
EDIT: Out of stock in stores, still available online.

$698 for pickup, $5.95 for delivery to Sydney metro areas.
Better value than the new iPad Air? I think it's $779 on the Apple Store and you are giving up ProMotion + Quad speakers.

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  • Does it support Apple pencil 2?

    • +36
      • +1

        LOL

    • +4

      No.

    • -1

      No, it doesn’t.

    • +1

      Only supports 1st generation pencil.

  • +4

    This also has more RAM than an iPad Air, so yeah I think it's a better buy despite being 2 gens older.

  • -1

    No good 10 inch iPad around 300 dollar mark is there??

    • Cheapest ever was 407 so incredibly unlikely. Buy a second-hand iPad Air 2.

    • ….

      • ??????

  • https://www.google.com.au/search?source=hp&ei=i3vFXJ0Nk9_1A5…

    Happened to ours, got replaced and sold it for a 11".

    • +4

      Work bought 100 Australia wide, early release had this problem about five were affected, the rest had zero issues used day in day out in the field.

      • Can happen after 1 year or more not when new.

        • Been in use for approx 15-20 months , age by usage I would estimate 10 times average consumer usage.imho

    • +1

      Happened to mine after 21 months. Apple replaced it with a refurbished one.

      • Which apple store did that for you. Mine is also 29 months old and have same issue. Thanks

        • +2

          21 months < 24 months (Apple's interpretation of ACL) < 29

          You'll need to argue your case strongly that you expect it to last 3 years. And use the date you first noticed it as the "fault date" rather than now.

    • +1

      I have this white spot on this one I’m using right now. Must take it to the Apple Genius Bar before it gets past two years. Great machine otherwise.

  • Picked up one today. The battery was zero, pretty old stock. But all fine.

    • Mine was dead too when I bought it a few months ago. They would have sat somewhere a long time unsold.

      Mine had iOS 10, and I made the mistake of upgrading to 12 right away. I didn't realize the game I wanted to play on it was not updated for iOS 11 and beyond, so now I can't even play it.

  • +2

    Fantastic screen on these 120hz screen refresh double the normal speed to be seen to be believed, so fast , worth every cent .

  • damn, bought this from jb-hifi a week ago for 799, so this definitively a steal

  • it's $14.95 delivery…

  • I'll cross my fingers for the deal to last long enough so I could price match at jb hi-fi tomorrow

  • Still an awesome product after almost 2 years. Mine still runs as smooth as silk probably due to the 4GB ram which is better than my iphone x. A10x processor is still a fast CPU as well.

  • +1

    Still a good iPad Pro. Much better than the current new Air and much cheaper than the new version with FaceID.

    • It's definitely better than the new Air except for the CPU and this deal makes it a bit cheaper too

  • Good price for local stock. Got my grey import one for $737.42 in June 2017. Using it daily and it's still silky smooth unlike all the previous iPads I've owned where they started to stutter 2 years after their initial releases.

    • My gen 1 iPad Pro 9.7 is still going mightily strong at nearly 3 years. Only issue I have is the keyboard magnetic connector points are a bit worn from being attached 24/7

    • iOS 12 has done wonders for older iPads - I had a 5-year old Air and it ran smoothly and about as well as new.

  • +1

    Bought it, free delivery with shipster

  • Thanks OP, bought with free delivery thru shipster.

    ps: we should form a club :)

    edit: has anyone received their order confirmation/invoice yet? I havent, nothing in the spam folder either.

    • Just got a confirmation and a tracking number

      • Still haven't received a tracking number. Anyone else received theirs?

        • I had to call HN so they would give me the tracking number following my receipt number.

          I live in Brisbane and the iPad is sent from Perth … it took it from monday to friday to do perth-sydney and the estimated delivery date is wednesday 8th of May, I'm running out of patience!

        • I only got order number but no tracking number yet.

          In fact when I login it doesn't even show up under "My Orders" section yet!

  • +14

    Comparing this one to the new iPad Air, the iPad Pro has

    Positives:
    - a 120hz display vs 60hz
    - a higher brightness display (600nits vs 500nits)
    - 4 speakers vs 2 speakers
    - USB 3 vs USB-2 transfer speeds with Lightning.
    - 4GB RAM vs 3GB RAM
    - a 50% faster GPU (approximately)
    - better rear camera

    Negatives:
    - A10X vs A12 processor in the Air misses out on the Neural Engine
    - processor is about 15% slower for single and multi core
    - new Air has Bluetooth 5.0 vs Bluetooth 4 (4.2?) in the Pro.

    Hope that helps- I just bought the 10.5 Pro myself and it’s fantastic.

    • +6

      Neural Engine sounds like marketing BS to me, just like 'Bionic'. It's not going to literally read your brain. Come on guys.

      • +1

        Sounds like something Cyberdyne Systems would make

        • +1

          Apple has an obsession with hyperbole.

          The much inferior iPhone XR screen which does not have the OLED panel of the X and XS is called.. Liquid retina. Sounds so cool. But what does the liquid refer to? It's just the same LCD screen they'd been using but with a notch. But it sure did get your attention didn't it? So it worked.

      • +1

        Not pure marketing: from wired.com

        That feature is the “neural engine,” part of the new A11 processor that Apple developed to power the iPhone X. The engine has circuits tuned to accelerate certain kinds of artificial-intelligence software, called artificial neural networks, that are good at processing images and speech.

        Apple said the neural engine would power the algorithms that recognize your face to unlock the phone and transfer your facial expressions onto animated emoji. It also said the new silicon could enable unspecified “other features.”

        Chip experts say the neural engine could become central to the future of the iPhone as Apple moves more deeply into areas such as augmented reality and image recognition, which rely on machine-learning algorithms. They predict that Google, Samsung, and other leading mobile-tech companies will soon create neural engines of their own. Earlier this month, China's Huawei announced a new mobile chip with a dedicated "neural processing unit" to accelerate machine learning.

        • +2

          That feature is the “neural engine,” part of the new A11 processor that Apple developed to power the iPhone X. The engine has circuits tuned to accelerate certain kinds of artificial-intelligence software, called artificial neural networks, that are good at processing images and speech.

          I don't believe whatever they are doing can't be done with a previous gen chip. It reminds me of nvidia's RTX cores. Turns out you can do ray tracing with previous gen GPUs also, it will just be a slower.

          AI has existed since the dawn of computing. Processing images and speech… not new, sorry.

          If you're telling me it's going to be able to do something that no other chip can handle, I will see it when I believe it.

          Apple said the neural engine would power the algorithms that recognize your face to unlock the phone

          I can already do that without a neural engine chip.

          and transfer your facial expressions onto animated emoji.

          Been done already.

          Chip experts say the neural engine could become central to the future of the iPhone as Apple moves more deeply into areas such as augmented reality and image recognition

          How far away is this future, and how about the present? Is this neural engine being used in the present, or are you paying for a capability that won't be here until you've naturally replaced the phone with the next model already?

          AR exists already. Without Apple. As does image recognition, which you can do through google images, or Bixby on your 2 year old Galaxy phone.

          They predict that Google, Samsung, and other leading mobile-tech companies will soon create neural engines of their own.

          When Apple does something, others tend to follow. So they're all going to be in on this marketing bs. Even if they're controversial (and in my opinion dumb) things like notches and removing headphone jacks.

          Apple said the neural engine would power the algorithms that recognize your face to unlock the phone and transfer your facial expressions onto animated emoji.

          Is this stuff live yet? Pretty sure we've already seen the animated emoji. Either Samsung or Apple (or both) already did that a couple of years ago without the neural engine or bionic.

          This article is very speculative. I want to know what are the benefits of this neural engine chip, right now. After all, the chip is being sold right now, not in the future. There will be some new marketing buzz word in the future that they tell you you're going to need. I can guarantee that.

          Apple loves marketing buzzwords. When they tell you it has a "retina" display, it sounds like they can read your eyeballs like in those retina scanners you see in high security door locks. But it just means it has a ppi of 200-300. Adding "liquid" to the display, you'd think some new liquid crystal technology is being used but it just means there's a notch compared to older screens with a home button and big bezels. Neural engine and Bionic sounds like it can analyze your brain cells, but if it's just an engine to help compute AI, it sounds a bit hyperbolic.

          Oh please.

          • +1

            @lostn:

            Turns out you can do ray tracing with previous gen GPUs also, it will just be a slower.

            Slow enough not to be worth trying. That's the point. Nobody wants 6 frame-per-second animation. So along comes "RTX".

            But it just means it has a ppi of 200-300.

            I agree generally about marketing buzzwords, but Retina has more meaning since it relates to whether you can see individual pixels at the typical viewing distance for that display. If you can't see individual pixels, it's classed as a retina display. Personally I call them high density displays, but I can see the logic in Retina, as relating to what your eyes can see or can't see.

            BTW, I will never buy another iPad after Apple abandoned my Ipad3 after only 4 years. No more updates, meaning I can't get email anymore (due to newer security protocols for email) on my iPad, and forget about the app store, and many websites don't work properly due to no support for javascript ES6. It's bullshit. A tablet from 2012 should not be sent to landfill. Imagine how many millions of working iPads exist out there, manufactured between 2010 and 2012, but can't get updates (even browser updated or security patches) because Apple want you to bin it and buy a new one.

            • @cerealJay: you can say the same for any android tablets. Even popular custom roms like lineage OS will stop support for certain devices at some point. Maintaining software for old hardware is costly

              • @dekaiser: Nope, it's not the same. On Android you have the option of installing a completely different web browser from the play store, even if you don't get OS updates any more. Apple does not allow other web browsers on the App store to have their own rendering engine. So regardless of whether you install "Chrome for iOS" on your old iPad, it will have the same limits as Safari. Same deal for email clients.

                "Maintaining software for old hardware is costly"

                Yes poor Apple, they can't afford to pay their developer to update code for their own products from 4 years ago. Instead, they literally call those products "vintage" and put their developer to work on selling shiny new iPads.

                It's trivial to code something to say for example "if device has a fingerprint scanner, use it, else use alternate method". That's coding 101. It's dumb, and environmentally costly to say "oh well, all new devices have fingerprint readers so better send all old devices without fingerprint readers to hell".

  • Is 64GB enough space?
    how big does the OS take up?

  • +7

    Wish there was a HN Amex deal right now :(

    • I wish I'd bought gift cards when that deal was on :(

  • -1

    Price match at Officeworks?

    • It’s out of stock at Officeworks.

      • Mentone Victoria has the Rose Gold version only ….. only for those that don't mind that colour

  • Thanks, bought the 256gb Model for $855 by buying $900 worth of egift cards with 5% discount.

    • +1

      Nice, where did you get the discounted gift cards from?

    • I bought 512GB LTE version for $1120 on an ebay 20% off. And with 15% discounted gift cards from December, brings it down to about $952. This was a few months ago before the Air 3 was revealed. Would have waited for that but no one saw it coming. I thought Apple was done with home buttons and headphone jacks but I was wrong.

  • +2

    Great first post!

  • +1

    I believe it is my destiny to acquire a 'Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Plus' Android tablet (I was looking for the best price on the weekend, probably AlieExpress but they add 10% GST right at the very end of the checkout process). However, it is good for us as consumers to be able to choice a product that best suits our neeeds and our temperament.

    • Been thinking of getting one myself. I think 450-500 is the price I saw a few days ago on Ali Express.

  • +2

    Just bought. Conversation with wife is going to be interesting…

  • Will any of you buy applecare plus? I read about the white spot issue and kept wondering if it's worth putting the extra

    • +1

      It'll be covered under ACL, just make sure to go in before your 2 years if you have the issue.

      • I suppose it's only worth it if I ever break the screen

  • I still don't have a delivery date and when I login to my Harvey Norman account I still cannot see my order.

    I only have the initial order number.

    Anyone else with the same problem?

    • Best to call them up. I had to follow up everyday for over a week. Initially they gave me the wrong tracking number. After many phone calls, chats and much escalation on twitter, finally got he right tracking no. Doesn’t help that it had to be shipped from qld. Came by road, so travelled like 8 days.

      I suggest you start making calls.

      • They contacted me and mine too is from QLD…..fingers crossed that it arrives on Monday or Tuesday next week.

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