Added Intel Core i7 9700K 4.9GHz Processor 12MB LGA 1151 8 Core 8 Thread Desktop CPU $575 to header as it had a price drop
Intel Core i9 9900K CPU 5.0GHz LGA 1151 16MB 8 Core 16 Thread Desktop Processor
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which CPU will you go for?
or you waiting to see the benchmarks 1st?
3900x or 3800x depends on the price. Both should be an upgrade from my current 8700k set up.
8700k was the part to buy though if you want to wait till ryzen 4000 for an upgrade (unless you need 12 - 16 cores).
@Budju: The thing is that I actually wanna build a full AMDcomputer for myself. Gonna give the current one (8700k and1080)to wife.
@nico8amy: I don't think Radeon is going to deliver this year. They are just getting closer to the mark - NVIDIA is already talking about dropping prices and bringing out upgraded variants of their current product lines.
Hats off to AMD though cause they forced NVIDIA to do those things. You might be able to pick up a current version 2080 or 2080 Ti for cheaper soon.
@Budju: For the GPU We don't know yet. But for CPU, I definitely will get a 3900x or 3800x which requires a new motherboard. It's just so much better value then Intel right now. equal if not better performance in gaming and production work and it comes with a cooler. I might get an AMD GPU the new motherboard supports pcie 4.0. Wouldn't be look at the 5700x because its not worth upgrade from the 1080 I got. Will wait for a higher end GPU (>=2080) from AMD.
@nico8amy: Definitely AMD if you are about to buy a new system for the CPU. As far as GPU goes, watch this space over the next few months.
@Budju: Yeah. 5700xt is a disappointment for me but it shows AMD is focusing on the right things and right technology. nvidia 2000 series pushed the RTX too hard and too far. I wasn't interested at all.
@nico8amy: Well, hold on to your hat - https://wccftech.com/exclusive-nvidias-super-gpus-unleashing…
@Budju: Nothing will be clear untill we can have these cards side by side for a benchmark test. I will probably get this new setup during black Friday sale anyway.
can't afford the electricity bill with this.
38W normal workload.
13W idle.
69W gaming.
Where's the problem?
Synthetically torturing it with extreme unrealistic workload is 205W, and I doubt you'll be doing that.
Please note that the Intel's official 9900k TDP spec was considered to be fake news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmAWqyHdebI&t=314s
Please note I pulled this from review benchmark data.
@BradH13: Had a quick look. You misquoted the TDP for the i9 9900k with the TDP for the i9 9900. At least they recognised that a good amount of VRM is important not to bottleneck this CPU, like Linus did in his failed review.
The comments section rightly pointed out, a z390 motherboard (which you'll need) is horrendously expensive. The motherboard they use is $600 US or $850 AUD. Conclusion, don't buy this CPU 1 month out from Zen 2.
And? If you're already spending $600+ on a processor, you may as well spend the extra $100 and get the top of the line one with double the thread count. If it's just for gaming, shouldn't really be getting either of them.
well its more for the overclockers like myself who would get a 9700k over the 9900 because the threads dont matter for gaming but the extra thermal overhead helps in pushing past 5ghz
Another day, another person assuming gaming is the key use of a CPU.
@BradH13: It's no better than people harping on about AMD processors and all the exaggerated workloads they'll be using them for.
The hyperthreading on these are a security hole
Got mine yesterday from Computer Alliance for $551 delivered.
Im getting this Just for the Box
If you give me $600 I'll get you two boxes!
Worldwide release on the 7th July (however 3950X will be out in Sept):
*AMD Ryzen 9 3950X: $749 (about £590, AU$1,080) – 16-cores, 32-threads | 4.7GHz boost, 3.5GHz base | 105W
*AMD Ryzen 9 3900X: $499 (about £390, AU$720) – 12-cores, 24-threads | 4.6GHz boost, 3.8GHz base | 105W
*AMD Ryzen 7 3800X: $399 (about £310, AU$580) – 8-cores, 16-threads | 4.5GHz boost, 3.9GHz base | 105W
*AMD Ryzen 7 3700X: $329 (about £260, AU$480) – 8-cores, 16-threads | 4.4GHz boost, 3.6GHz base | 65W
*AMD Ryzen 5 3600X: $249 (about £200, AU$360) – 6-cores, 12-threads | 4.4GHz boost, 3.8GHz base | 95W
*AMD Ryzen 5 3600: $199 (about £160, AU$290) – 6-cores, 12-threads | 4.2GHz boost, 3.6GHz base | 65W
Personally I decided to change my i9-9900K build to include the upcoming Ryzen 9 - 3900X
AMD's presentation claims 3900X can beat a i9-9900K
but…
Here some think i9 is still the one to beat in a real world comparison
With all the security holes in Intel CPUs, you would also need to take into consideration if their tests are before or after applying the necessary patches. Doesn't Zombieload expose a huge vulerability with Intel Hyper-Threading.
No need to worry, buying Norton's AV software will protect you from an OS you can't see, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine
Let alone AMD's version (no doubt far better!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Secure_Technology
What you can't see can't hurt you
Prices will be much more expensive here in Aus.
Factor in taxes and mark ups and what ever else they like to add on.
If you think those are going to be the prices, you're going to be very disappointed when they release. You haven't accounted for GST, nor the fact that everything costs more here in Australia.
I would be very surprised if the Ryzen 9 3900X sells for under $850. The i9 9900K was priced slightly cheaper (US$488) and sold for $869 here at launch when the AUD was stronger.
Well maybe not. If you look at the 2700x on Newegg.com, it's $294 USD. Converting it to Australia dollars, ex GST, it's $422.58. A quick look at Staticice shows prices starting from $440.00. The majority of sellers are around $469.00, if taking into consideration GST.
Hopefully we will be able to find some ram running at ideal clocks, by that time as well.
Yep, currently on the lookout for "sweet spot" 3733MHz RAM myself.
They didn't mention timings but I'm guessing it's CL16?
Edit: according to the amd presentation they recommend 3600@cl16 or 3733@cl17
Easy enough, you can even get 3600@cl16 kit from G-skill at the moment.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/tech_preview_amd_ryzen…
A shame there's no TSX, otherwise the 3800X looks super tempting…
Getting $9.95 for delivery of Norton Internet Security Premium 5 Users, bringing it to $37.95
damn must be only free delivery for eBay+
Just bought for $28 (I have eBay+). Great price from a reputable seller
Personally speaking, AMD Ryzen 9 3900X will be much better choice at this price point. I will wait for 3950X
It won't come down anywhere near this price point for months after release.
I mean 3900X, 499 USD, which is around 720AUD. Of course we have GST, but EBAY discount is likely to bring it close to this 9900K's price point. You must consider 3900X is 12c24t
The i9 9900K was priced at US$488. Here in Australia it launched at $869, and at that point the AUD was slightly stronger. It's not going to be priced anywhere near $720.
imo it'll launch close to $900, and you won't see a 3900X under $800 until Black Friday sales.
Intel still has a much higher rate for encoding over the Threadrippers. So if you do alot of compressing movies or TV to HEVC, Intel rules by a big enough margin.
Threadripper we have is old tech now. The mainstream cpu's have just booted them up a level for the next release.
Are your comparing a mainstream product like the 9900k to a HEDT Threadripper CPU? Where is the evidence to support your claim. With Threadripper you also get quad channel ECC memory support and 64 PCIE lanes. The 9900k can't offer those features at all if you need to do critical high end production. work. You need to pay a lot more for Intel's HEDT offering to obtain similar features and performance to Threadripper.
The more cores the more heat used and less efficient it will be once you hit double figure cores. Do you even look at the tests shown for encoding comparisons? AVX used in Intels CPU is way more tuned for HEVC encoding and beats AMD easily. Look at many of the reviews on tom's hardware or tech sites. The only time AMD would be better (possibly) is when you have multiple things going that are heavy use for the CPU and have encoding as low priority. Obviously this is purely about HEVC encoding, nothing else. As its the most consistently draining thing for a CPU.
That shouldn't be a problem with zen 2, they do AVX 256 in a single clock now like intel chips do, they doubled the number of FPUs. Encoding just uses AVX 256 heavily.
Good timing - This should double as a great passive heater for winter
After a price adjustment from $899 -> $799 I picked up one of these (9900K) this morning from Computer Alliance's eBay store for $679.15 using PLINK.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Intel-S1151-Core-i9-9900K-3-6GHz…
Obviously, Ryzen 3000 series coming yadda yadda….
nice find should post it as a deal
Better wait for amd