New Nintendo Switch Lite Revealed

Nintendo on Wednesday unveiled the Nintendo Switch Lite, a smaller and cheaper version of its popular console rethought exclusively for handheld use. While the standard Nintendo Switch, released in March 2017, can be played either on a television screen or on the go, the new Switch Lite is strictly for mobile play.

The Nintendo Switch Lite, which will be available for US $199.99 on Sept. 20, has integrated, non-removable controllers and a thinner form factor that’s more comfortable for handheld gaming. It’s got a 5.5-inch display that’s similar to the mainline Switch’s 6.2-inch screen, and a more traditional D-Pad on the left side. The Switch Lite can run any Switch game, from Nintendo’s own titles (like Super Mario Odyssey) to those in the extensive indie library (like Dead Cells). However, games built around the Switch Joy-Con controllers (like 1-2 Switch) will require users to connect external controllers, though there’s no kickstand for convenient tabletop play. It charges with USB-C, but it won’t work on a TV with the Switch dock.

Source: Time


Quick notes From Nintendo Switch Subreddit:

  • Real D-pad on left side
  • Cannot be docked or connected to TV at all
  • Slightly smaller screen (5.5" vs 6.2")
  • Same 720p resolution
  • Slightly better battery life (no details yet)
  • No kickstand
  • Comes in yellow, grey, or turquoise + special Sword and Shield edition
  • Lighter than normal switch with joy-cons attached.
  • No IR or HD rumble
  • Will function with normal joy-cons for multiplayer/games that require motion.
  • No brightness adjustment No adaptive brightness, only manual adjust

Comparison Chart - Source: u/StinkyFishSauce on Nintendo Switch Subreddit


Australian announcement trailer

Official Nintendo Page for Nintendo Switch Lite - SRP AU $329.95*

Credits to sss333

Comments

    • +13 votes

      Oof that price. Might as well just get the regular Switch when sales take it to around $350 (keeps multiplayer split screen after all), although the dodgy Joy-Cons issue kinda sucks still, not to mention lack of d-pad.

  • +3 votes

    It has a real D-pad! Amazing!

    In all seriousness though, this is great by Nintendo. I was expecting a non-portable Switch though - just a box to take the cartridge, probably bundle it with the Pro controller.

    • -2 votes

      Great for sure, a smaller portable switch missing some features that's almost as expensive as the proper switch (at least for the time being). Come to think of it, it will go great with all the Wii U games that cost 4 times as much as on the Wii U but are identical.

      I guess I will be playing my 99 dollar 3DS XL for a couple more years until the price takes a dive. The silver lining might be when someone works out how to connect it to a TV so it's like a normal switch.

  • +4 votes

    there goes modded Switches :(

  • -1 vote

    from Nintendo’s own titles (like Super Mario Odyssey) to those in the extensive indie library (like Dead Cells). However, games built around the Switch Joy-Con controllers (like 1-2 Switch)

    Wait I though Super Mario Odyssey was pretty Joy-Con heavy with all the flick moves etc. Games like Mario Party, Just Dance etc. Won't be able to be played.

    Really they should have just bought out a new Switch which did 4k graphics/upscaling and had a faster CPU. People would be all over that.

    • +3 votes

      Wait I though Super Mario Odyssey was pretty Joy-Con heavy with all the flick moves etc.

      I played through Odyssey with the pro controller just fine, so I don't think it'd be an issue. But yeah, you're right about games like Mario Party, Just Dance…etc. but who would play them on this anyway? They're games for the big TV.

      Might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't like the Joycons at all, no D-pad is a huge bummer, the buttons don't feel as good as the ones on my 3DS XL, and I would say that if you're playing games like Mario, Zelda, Smash somewhat seriously, you really need to get a pro controller.

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      From my understanding you can connect it to external controllers, so likely you'll have to buy a new set of joy cons. Though trying to play Mario Party or just dance on a tiny screen will definitely be quite a challenge.

  • +1 vote

    Ready for the new pokemon

  • +10 votes

    Okay, it makes sense to remove the kickstand.
    It even makes sense to remove the dual-gyros from each JoyCon side.
    (but probably should've included a single-gyro for the entire handheld like a phone).
    But it doesn't make sense to remove the Left Arrow-Buttons.
    Or to remove the HD-Rumble feature.
    It doesn't make sense to remove the IrDA.
    And makes zero sense to remove the ability to Dock it.
    …..all of this means Nintendo is being very cheap, and not competitive or consumer-friendly (if price isn't notably cheaper).

    Nintendo is basically killing off the Nintendo Switch, and making it as a 3DS successor.
    Which probably means we won't get a Nintendo Switch successor, but they'll keep the Nintendo Switch Lite alongside a future Home-only Console Box that would probably be around the same performance of a PS4… whilst the PS5 and Xbox V will be moving towards the performance of Gaming PC's (Ryzen 3700X, RX 5700, 32GB GDDR6).

    • +4 votes

      Have an uptick. Doesn’t seem fair to get negs for that.

    • +1 vote

      …..all of this means Nintendo is being very cheap, and not competitive or consumer-friendly (if price isn't notably cheaper).

      What makes you say this? You can just purchase the original Switch if you want all the features you've stated. I've always criticised Nintendo for a whole host of silly decisions they make, but this doesn't seem to be a valid criticism.

      Nintendo is basically killing off the Nintendo Switch, and making it as a 3DS successor.

      What? Why?

      Which probably means we won't get a Nintendo Switch successor, but they'll keep the Nintendo Switch Lite alongside a future Home-only Console Box that would probably be around the same performance of a PS4… whilst the PS5 and Xbox V will be moving towards the performance of Gaming PC's (Ryzen 3700X, RX 5700, 32GB GDDR6).

      You've completely made this up…

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        It's probably the pessimist in me, but I've seen these business decisions before. What happens is that they make something with better profit-margins, and phase out the other model.

        The reason why I'm more concerned than anything, is because the Lite doesn't have TV-out capability, so it cannot Dock. It basically means this is not a "Switch", it's a handheld console. Officially the 3DS and Switch will get discontinued, and we'll get the Lite and a "GameCone". So it will be back to two products instead of one.

        And while there's many issues with the Original Nintendo Switch, but the concept is not one of them. I think it’s phenomenal to have a portable device that can double as your home console, sort of like what Laptops did for Computing back in the early 2000’s.

        • -1 vote

          It's probably the pessimist in me, but I've seen these business decisions before. What happens is that they make something with better profit-margins, and phase out the other model.

          That makes no sense, the Switch is the best thing Nintendo has done in the past 10 years, arguably since the Wii. It legitimately saved Nintendo from going under, just like the Wii did.

          What incentive would they have to cut the original Switch?

          The reason why I'm more concerned than anything, is because the Lite doesn't have TV-out capability, so it cannot Dock. It basically means this is not a "Switch", it's a handheld console. Officially the 3DS and Switch will get discontinued, and we'll get the Lite and a "GameCone". So it will be back to two products instead of one.

          As in the previous post, you've just made this up. There's no evidence backing up the idea that Nintendo would discontinue the original Switch - it's their most successful product in over 10 years.

          Either way, I think the Switch Lite is a really good thing. The original Switch wasn't a portable console, it was a home console that you could throw in a backpack. It's not a portable console. I could carry my 3DS XL in a pocket, I can't with the Switch. On top of that, the most popular way of playing the Switch is actually not on TV, but handheld, so Nintendo are catering to a huge portion of the market, not to mention that handheld consoles have been an increasingly successful endeavour for Nintendo.

          I wouldn't buy the Switch Lite at $329, but if the price was closer to $250, which it might be during a sale, I'd be more than happy to pick one up to play my Switch games on the go. I don't right now because the Switch is too big. There's a market for what Nintendo is making and they have to expand their Switch portfolio with more hardware, I think specialisation is a good thing.

          • -6 votes

            @p1 ama: Most of the things you say "you've made this up" are actually things you can reasonably expect to happen.
            You can expect a great performance from the 2020 PS5 and Xbox V.
            You can expect Nintendo will phase out the original Switch, to push the Lite which has higher profit-margins.
            You can expect Nintendo to keep the Lite console around for at least another 4 years, which means it will have to overlap with the next Nintendo console.
            You can expect the Lite would be powerful enough at that time, just like how "powerful" the Nintendo 2DS/3DS was back in 2011-2013 and despite its technical disadvantages Nintendo kept it for 5-8 years.

            …so there is a VERY reasonable expectation that Nintendo has made a business move to kill the original Switch, phase-into the Lite as a handheld console, and move towards introducing a Home-Only Console.

            It would be very counterproductive if Nintendo introduced a Switch successor that can also convert from handheld to desktop, whilst they still manufacture the Lite or original Switch. Nintendo is smart enough to tap into the "nostalgia factor" which means, they will simply cross-platform port digitally most/all of the Switch games to their next console for a second-purchase. The competitors of Xbox and PlayStation are moving towards this. And there's even more added pressure with Google Stadia becoming a thing in the future.

            PS: Do note, I'm not specifically against having more Nintendo consoles on the market. I simply thing if Nintendo wants to make a Switch Mini, they should make a proper Switch Mini by using newer technology if possible, but not compromising the concept and versatility of the original. There's no reason that they couldn't make it the size of a phone, and still have removable JoyCons, or at the minimum support a Dock. Deliberately altering the fundamentals of the Switch is why the Lite is not "more options/more competition", nope, we've seen this before, it is a calculated Business Manoeuvre.

            PSPS: Nintendo did the same thing by sticking to an inefficient Planar-20nm process, using inefficient Cortex A57 processor, and an unoptimised Tegra X1 build. At the time, they could've used a more modern 14nm-FinFET node, a much more efficient Cortex A72 processor, and a more optimised build. They could've had the device provide more battery life for player, using less power and generating less heat and noise. Not to mention, having performance that could've been even higher than the Base PS4, which would have secured a lot more interest, AAA ports, games, and sales. But no, Nintendo chose to have cheaper internals and build, utterly destroying its chances to stay relevant in say the year 2021 besides "hardcore fans".

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              @Kangal:

              …so there is a VERY reasonable expectation that Nintendo has made a business move to kill the original Switch, phase-into the Lite as a handheld console, and move towards introducing a Home-Only Console.

              That doesn't make any sense - like I mentioned before, the Switch will end up being one of Nintendo's best selling products of all time. There is no evidence that they would kill their best product just 2 years after launch. Even the Wii U, a complete flop by most metrics had a longer lifespan than that.

              I simply thing if Nintendo wants to make a Switch Mini, they should make a proper Switch Mini by using newer technology if possible, but not compromising the concept and versatility of the original. There's no reason that they couldn't make it the size of a phone, and still have removable JoyCons, or at the minimum support a Dock. Deliberately altering the fundamentals of the Switch is why the Lite is not "more options/more competition", nope, we've seen this before, it is a calculated Business Manoeuvre.

              No, not at all. As I mentioned before, the most popular method of playing the Switch is not in docked mode, but rather, in handheld mode. Look this up. It makes sense to cater to that audience with another product. If you have no intention to play the Switch in docked mode, why should you pay for that feature?

              • +1 vote

                @p1 ama: But why remove a $0.01 worth of feature, which is, to enable Video-Out from the USB-C port? It makes no sense from a business perspective, since it prevents you from selling additional accessories for the Dock. Sounds like an anomaly, but businesses usually do practice taking losses/making bad decisions, when they've other ideas or plans in the future.

                The only reasoning is that they do NOT want that feature in the device. Which would mean they purposely want to turn the Switch-platform away from a convertible concept and into a Handheld-platform. Why would Nintendo do something like that? The simplest explanation is that they're planning on making a successor, which would be a direct competitor to the Home-Console portion. No-one is saying they're killing the original Switch now, after 2 years, but trying to point out that its getting poised to be replaced (my guess is Q4 2021, and Switch Lite will continue until 2023).

                If Nintendo was going to make a second convertible console ("Switch 2"), they would not have the need to fragment the platform the way they did. They simply could have made a Switch Mini instead, keeping the features and original concept and just making the device more portable. That's what everyone was expecting.

                So from a business viewpoint, the smart move to make is to transition the Nintendo Switch away from being a low-end home console and midrange mobile console, to being in the future a low-end mobile console only. Then introducing a new midrange home console ("GameCone") to stay relevant in the field. Well, smart when thinking about the short-term profits, but probably unwise if considering the longterm business. Some of us remember the way Sega went into obscurity, Nintendo is doing the bare-minimum to prevent such fate, while maximising their short-term revenues on their core-fans every couple years. Sony is the only one playing the long-game (focusing on studios, games, and marketing), and Microsoft is taking things much more seriously with Xbox as a platform like Steam or AppStore.

                • -2 votes

                  @Kangal:

                  But why remove a $0.01 worth of feature, which is, to enable Video-Out from the USB-C port?

                  Product segmentation - otherwise they would not be able to sell the Switch if you could just get a Switch Lite for cheap and pair it with an el cheapo USB-C dock from eBay.

                  It doesn't mean they want the entire Switch platform to be transformed into handheld only. In fact, that would be one of the worst decisions they could do. Nintendo have made some bad business decisions, but this is glaringly obviously bad.

                  I think you still misunderstand the point, which is that the Switch Lite caters to an audience who are obviously not you. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to buy it, the original Switch still exists, will exist for a long time and the entire Switch concept isn't going anywhere. More options is never a bad thing.

                  So from a business viewpoint, the smart move to make is to transition the Nintendo Switch away from being a low-end home console and midrange mobile console, to being in the future a low-end mobile console only.

                  That's a seriously dumb move.

                  Then introducing a new midrange home console ("GameCone") to stay relevant in the field.

                  That's even dumber. They have a very successful console right now in the Switch, there's no reason (short or long term) for them to go down this path.

                  Some of us remember the way Sega went into obscurity, Nintendo is doing the bare-minimum to prevent such fate, while maximising their short-term revenues on their core-fans every couple years.

                  Sega never went into obscurity, they just simply made too many bone-headed mistakes, especially Sega of Japan who continually screwed over Kalinske and Sega of America, who were much better at the business decisions. The botched 32X left a foul taste in consumer's minds, the Sega Saturn launch was one of the worst in history and the Playstation couldn't have come at a worse time. The world was a different place back in the 1990's, people aren't rich as they are now and people didn't spend as much of their income on technology. It wasn't common to see people own more than one console, whereas there are people who own much more (e.g. I own over 10 consoles, including all 3 current ones).

                  It'd be silly to compare Nintendo now to Sega's position in the mid-1990's. Nintendo has survived (and will continue to survive) due to the strength of their IP. People bought the Switch to play Zelda or Mario, they didn't just buy the Switch and then stumble upon Zelda or Mario. As long as Nintendo continue to pump out good games, their consoles (whatever they do) will continue to sell.

                  They've already removed themselves from competing with MS/Sony, so comparisons with them are really invalid. I don't think Nintendo really care about MS/Sony.

                  • +2 votes

                    @p1 ama: Product segmentation is the Nintendo Switch Mini. However, the Nintendo Switch Lite is Platform Fragmentation. Besides, they control the software, license, and hardware. They can very easily make it so that only Nintendo Docks work, so they have essentially killed off an important revenue stream. Not to mention, platform fragmentation.

                    Yes, it's a seriously dumb move… from a longterm business outlook, where reputation and consumer-focused are attributes that pay dividends. But its a smart business move if you're Nintendo, who focuses on making short-term profits as per their history.

                    Their console is failing to attract third-party developers to it, like the Nintendo Wii and Wii U before it. It's dumb for them to not be making plans now for the next console, so you're wrong here again. See PS4 Pro which went into development phase in 2014, shortly after the original PS4 launch.

                    I think you're over-estimating the current market. Sega made many mistakes, Nintendo has made many mistakes. Sega went into obscurity, that's not something you can debate. Nintendo is going into obscurity. They are trying not to, but honestly they aren't trying enough. It would be stupid to not compare Nintendo's position to that of Sega with many parallels to draw. There's really not much room in the market for many players, the leaders always get the largest slice of the pie; see the profit margins of Apple, Samsung, BBK, Xiaomi, Huawei, and everyone else (Pixel, HTC, LG, Sony, Motorola, Nokia-HMD, etc etc).

                    You're right, Nintendo is too incompetent to try to compete against Sony, MS, Valve, Apple, Google, GPD etc etc. Relying only on nostalgia and old IP isn't an airtight plan. It's almost like the entire corporation is run by a small group of ageing Japanese men who have lost their touch with the evolving industry. Absurd.

                • +1 vote

                  @Kangal:

                  But why remove a $0.01 worth of feature, which is, to enable Video-Out from the USB-C port? It makes no sense from a business perspective, since it prevents you from selling additional accessories for the Dock. Sounds like an anomaly, but businesses usually do practice taking losses/making bad decisions, when they've other ideas or plans in the future.

                  It's probably $0.00, and disabled completely in software.

                  The reality is most likely that the new thermal profile of the "lite" version does not cope with running a full 1080p output. Or, rather, designing it to never have to handle 1080p means that it can be made smaller, cooling can be sacrificed to gain battery capacity and so on.

                  A recent firmware update enabled software to overclock the CPU, it's specifically used in games when they can guarantee the GPU will not be busy doing other things (loading screens and so on). The entire (current) system is very much constrained by thermal limits.

                  Still, Nintendo have a long history of making hysterically bad hardware design choices, so it could be just plain old stupidity too :-)

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                    @tardisx: I was actually thinking about this initially, but the folks at Anandtech think its the same Tegra X1 chipset punched out on a smaller 12nm die. So that would ease the voltage/heat concerns. And worse comes to worse, they could build a fan or cooling-solution inside an official Nintendo Dock.

  • +8 votes

    Seems pointless. The features that are removed are major selling points for the original switch. Being able to remove the joycons and play two player is one of the best features of any console ever made.

    • +1 vote

      I have a friend who had his switch for 3 months before docking it. he finished Zelda/Mario and DK before seeing any of them on a TV, maybe its for ppl like him?

      • +7 votes

        So your 'friend' didn't invite you over for two player gaming when they got their Switch? Some friend.

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    Important question, does it have Bluetooth audio?

  • +2 votes

    Way too expensive for what you loose.

    • +11 votes

      For what we lose, I think this should be priced around $250 AUD max.

      • +2 votes

        I'm sure ozbargain can find a switch lite on sale at that price. I mean who buys Switch at RRP anyway?

      • +1 vote

        That's what the New 3DS XL was at (US$199 -> AU$249.95), but our currency has tanked quite a bit since then. I just didn't expect it would be that bad - thought maybe AU$299.95 at worst.

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    Soo… It's basically a 2DS but bigger single screen not dual screens

  • +6 votes

    Handheld mode only? Why is this still called Switch?

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    Wonder if they're going to release a 'Pro' version of the Switch - it's been rumoured along with the Lite.

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    Not bad… gives two MSRP price points of $470 and $330, personally I'm happy it cant be docked into the TV cuz it would then make the Original switch redundant for me (not a fan of the joy-cons and mostly play docked).
    Really hanging out for the pro/upgraded model though… 1080p/60fps, proper Bluetooth audio, online party chat… come on Nintendo make it happen!

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      Pro/upgraded model isn't gonna happen, just look at the previous trends of Nintendo.
      This is just like the the whole 2ds and 3ds situation, everyone wanted an improved 3ds.

      The next "pro/upgraded" model is gonna be the next gen console thats probably gonna be released 2021

      • +2 votes

        This is just like the the whole 2ds and 3ds situation, everyone wanted an improved 3ds.

        Yes, and we got the New 3DS.

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        Another model is already being reported as in production expected to released next year… we obviously have no idea what it will be like yet as Nintendo won't release any info, but given how accurate the Switch Mini rumors were you can bet some form of improved model will drop probably in the second half of next year to compete with Sony/Microsoft's new consoles. This is nothing like the 2ds/3ds situation… comparing Nintendo's handheld hardware releases vs their console hardware releases (which will be 3 years apart if released next year) definitely won't be the same specs!

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    The Sword and Shield edition looks so pretty but I have zero reasons to own one since I barely pick up my normal Switch these days. Dammit Nintendo making me want to spend my monies!

  • +1 vote

    No brightness adjustment kind of sucks, it'll be great for a family with one Switch already and cartridges that can be shared, digital purchases on the other hand…

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      digital purchases on the other hand…

      Agreed, it's just such a dumb idea to tie digital purchases to a console rather than to an account or person like basically every other platform does (Steam, PS, Xbox…etc.).

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        Wait what. Digital purchase is tied to an account. The Nintendo account. It's the first thing you have to create to go online/eshop.

        I think restrictions come when you want to have multiple accounts on multiple switches to share games because people will abuse it.

        But if you have an account on a single switch with digital games, everyone who has a profile on that switch can play those digital games

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          I think restrictions come when you want to have multiple accounts on multiple switches to share games because people will abuse it.

          That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's not like Steam where I can log in anywhere with my Steam account and play my games.

          I can't just have multiple Switches and have my games downloaded to all of them.

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            @p1 ama: You can sign in to as many switches as you like and download your digital games, I actually looked that up yesterday as I bought 2. The restriction is that the first one that you go to the e-shop on is then your primary switch and anyone on that console can play your games. Any subsequent ones only you can play them.

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    Where is the "No brightness adjustment" info coming from? That seems really odd, surely it's a software thing. And why would they remove that feature?

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    Hoping Prime day has killer Original Switch sale. Will give the newer ones a miss.

  • +1 vote

    Everything on the list makes sense to me apart from the no TV out.
    I get it if they don't provide dock in the box, but at least allow the functionality specially that they're the same processor…

    Now on the price side whoever says it's a great price I'd like to disagree. Here's why:
    Dock: $100+ dollars (on sale)
    Joycons: $90+ dollars (on sale)
    So if you remove these two elements from the $400 switch (on sale). It should be somewhere between $200-300 not $320.
    If they kept the TV out function this wouldn't be as bad. Just my thinking. Who'd use a joycon/pro controller on a portable system?

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      $400 switch (on sale)

      I can tell that you don't spend much time on OzBargain.

      • +1 vote

        If I said $350, or the all time low of $315 (or $295 after cashback from Amazon) people would've jumped at me.
        Point of the matter is, they have greatly increased their margin with this release, everything being smaller and less but price doesn't reflect that. I'm still bedazzled as to why omit HDMI output when it's basically free

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          They omit HDMI because the increased graphics spec and the CPU docked mode and subsequent cooling. The innards have been downgraded to mobile only specs. Should make it easier to discount hopefully. Production costs are much lower.

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    Interesting move by Nintendo.

    Whilst the features are great for a new device variant, the biggest con is the price. Especially considering many of us piced up the Amazon lightning deal at $315 for the Switch last year.

  • +2 votes

    The price is nuts, should have been $269.95.

  • +1 vote

    My kids have already put their order in for two yellows and a blue….. Haha!

    This is going to be a great Christmas for them 😁

    Very happy with the announcement, replaces the 3ds. Win win win!

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    You won't be able to hack the new version that's for sure

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      I'm sure there will be a browser hack or game (Ninjhax) hack of some sort down the track never say never.

  • +3 votes

    Guys, you told me to wait for the new switch…. This sucks.

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    Please compare this with PSP or PSV

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    Not really exciting… the only 2 games i was keen on playing were Botw and Mario Odyssey
    and both are now almost running perfectly on Cemu and Yuzu respectively…

    • +1 vote

      Or you can not be a criminal and support game studios so they can make new good games…

      • -1 vote

        its ok i own nintendo stock…

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        I would support Nintendo if they released a permanently docked version with higher specs…

        Its such a waste of money to buy a gimped portable console if you will never use it outside your house.

        Until then, cemu/yuzu.

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      If that becomes common, the only solution will be no offline play.

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