Kicking Someone out of a Sharehouse?

Hey guys,

At current I'm in a sharehouse and our lease is up in October. There's three people on the lease. Myself and another agree that the other person needs to go. I assume they're planning on going as the friendship is at best rocky between them and us. There hasn't been any conversation, I guess you could say me and the person are scared of confrontation with the person we want to remove.

Is there a correct way to go about this? Like I understand it's just as much our house as it is their house. But they need to go and I like this place.

NSW if that is relevant.

Thanks.

Comments

  • +6

    I recommend a boot. In true Aussie tradition, maybe something like this?

    https://i.redd.it/sentjq5w5k311.png


    More seriously, you basically answered yourself here:

    it's just as much our house as it is their house.

    So it's irrelevant that "they need to go" - no, they don't. The only way to do this properly is wait for the lease to end in October and convince the landlord to not renew it with the other person.

  • +10

    Bikies

    • +2

      Read that as Bickies at first and thought that was a terrible idea.

      • +8

        Might work. Hide their keys and then lure them out of the house with a trail of their favourites then close and lock the door behind them.

        • Oh piece of candy… Oh piece of candy

  • +7

    https://www.tenants.org.au/resources/share-houses is more likely to have info

    You are probably better off trying to have the awkward conversation with them now about you not wanting to renew a lease if they are on it, rather than hoping the real estate agent asking you about your future plans prompts it

    If they do want to leave, they are going to have to start looking for new places soon, and maybe giving them enough notice in advance to look now will get you what you want - them out of the house - rather than them digging their heels in because they have no place else to go.

    Some things to think about:

    Was the bond filed properly? Is the property still in good condition, or would you be likely to lose some of it? If there are damages who caused them?

    Do you want to bring in a new 3rd person, or going forward will it just be the 2 of you?

  • +2

    What did they say when you asked them about moving out?

    • +7

      …."Sheldon drafted a new
      Roommate Agreement"

  • +8

    There hasn't been any conversation

    Start here. Try this first before anything else. You're just gonna have to bite the bullet and have the hard chat.

    Make sure the conversations is factual and not emotional. Sell it as being better for everyone in the long run. See how you go. You may find they agree but just needed the initial kick in the bum.

  • +9

    Why not just ask the other housemate what their plans are when the lease is up?

    • +5

      "I was thinking about staying here…"

      "Yeah, about that. While the house sharing was great at the beginning, the dynamics have shifted a little bit in recent months so [other mate] and I are preferencing to continue the lease on by ourselves."

  • Apply two's a couple, three's a crowd rule.

  • +8

    sounds like you don't like confrontation … so if you can't bring yourself to have the conversation, start looking for new places with the other tenant, tell the guy that you two aren't planning on renewing the lease in October and that if he wants to stay on, he'll need to find new tenants, get you guys off of the lease and get your bond back …

    fair chance he'll start looking for something else and move out before you guys do, when he does, get another tenant and say "oh, we couldn't find anything else so we decided to find someone to move in"

  • +2

    Tell the third person that you two are leaving, and already looking for a new place, because October is 5 weeks away.

    Person 3 can either take over the full rent of the current place alone, or find a new place and move out early. Once they've moved out, cancel your plans for a new place.

    You might actually find a new place that suits you better in the process. Win Win Win.

    • +4

      Unless Person 3 finds 2 new people to renew the lease with him…

    • +1

      This. Sounds like he might be difficult? He doesn't have to leave until the lease is up. Your best bet is to have a deed-of-surrender with the landlord and have all three of you sign this. Work with the landlord to then just create a new contract with the two of you.

  • +9

    Just move to a new property and don't invite them.

  • +2

    Tell him that either he goes and you stay or he takes over the rent by himself. Personally, a 200% rise in rent with no guaranteed housemates would have me moving on.

    He may just call your bluff…

  • +4

    Talk to him.

    If he agrees to move out, will you have the money to cover his share of the bond and rent?Are you planning to get another person on the lease to replace him? This will be subject to your landlord's approval. He can also refuse to renew with just the 2 of you on the lease and you might still have to move out.

    If your frienemy wants to stay. What will you do? Leave? If you're leaving, you'll have to give 4 weeks' notice to your Landlord or you'll still be liable for rent.

    The sooner you find out what's happening , the sooner you can inform the RE of your intentions, whether it's to renew the lease, add a new person on the lease or give your 4 weeks' notice to move out.

  • +3

    Announce it with a cake

    • +1

      The cake wasn't a lie!

  • +4

    Hey. You're a blast to hang out with but I don't think we're living compatible.

    We're happy to move out and let you have the place. We don't want to put you on the spot so we're also prepared to assume your share of the rent should you choose to find a new place to live.

    We would like to make a decision <insert date> as we have found a place to move out to if you choose to find new housemates for this place.

  • I'm pretty non-confrontational myself. If I was you , I would make him an offer he couldn't refuse .Is there any available accommodation that will be available in the near future and that could suit him? Help him find an alternative accomodation and offer to help him move out.

    • …I would make him an offer he couldn't refuse…

      F me. I didn't paint you as mafia.

      • +1

        Is a mafioso sexier than a scientist?

        • Mate, the guy who cleans the windows of the accountants that work for the mafia is sexier than a Scientist.

          Nice try giving it the spruce up with the ol' upper case S. Can't sneak one past me. Hehe.

          • @[Deactivated]:

            Nice try giving it the spruce up with the ol' upper case S

            What do you mean? Could it be your subconscious trying to tell you something? Perhaps that the S in Scientist stands for 'sexy'? Is it tshow?😁

            • +1

              @[Deactivated]: Ah. You gave it the ol edit.

              You could be right though. I have spent many a night perusing all matter of scientific journal from theoratical science to the slow loris of science, social science.

              (Damn, should have made a BBT reference with "geology" but I actually find geology captivating.)

              • +2

                @[Deactivated]:

                I actually find geology captivating

                Do you? I've always found geology a bit boring:

                If a biologist screws up -> mutant killer virus 😱;

                If a physicist screws up -> deadly black hole😱😱;

                If a geologist screws up -> rock on table is now rock on floor. Picks rock up and put it back on table.🤷🏻‍♂️

                See what I mean?

                • @[Deactivated]:

                  If a geologist screws up ->

                  Is volcanology a subspecialty of geology? Because if so…

                  ?

                  • @HighAndDry: They don't take volcanoes back to their labs to study though, only samples.

                  • +2

                    @HighAndDry: They also have the lamest pickup lines I've ever heard:

                    Disclaimer: my nemesis may or may not be an exogeologist. 🙄

                • @[Deactivated]: If a biologist screws up -> they dissect frogs with kids (I'm assuming they still do this.

                  If a physicist screws up -> they do after school specials putting ping pong balls into beakers.

                  If a geologist screws up? I dunno… maybe a mine collapses or something.

                  Most likely they end up selling those orange blocks of salt with a lightbulb inside.

                  Maybe I'm blowing my own trumpet, but when docs stuff up, people become homeopathic gurus. There's no greater horror.

                  • -1

                    @[Deactivated]:

                    If a biologist screws up -> they dissect frogs with kids (I'm assuming they still do this.

                    A high school biology teacher is not a biologist, he's a teacher.

                    If a physicist screws up -> they do after school specials putting ping pong balls into beakers.

                    Hmmm, is that an euphemism? 🤨I believe the saying is "what happens in Pattaya stays in Pattaya!"… and those are most definitely not physicists!😉

                    when docs stuff up, people become homeopathic gurus

                    Worst! Patients whinge on ozbargain :
                    Chiro broke my back thread
                    Why do Doctors overbook?
                    The one who was complaining because his paed wrongly filled his blue book.
                    The other one demanding that his Dr accept CC payments…etc🙄

                    Please don't stuff up anymore Docs.

                    Now, perhaps "I'm blowing my own trumpet", but when my colleagues and I stuff up … wait! Who am I kidding? We never stuff up😁 and this is why the world as we know it , is still the world as we know it.😋

                    • @[Deactivated]: I do not know what is a Pattaya. I had to Google. I should not have Googled.

                      Unfortunately, what happens in Pattaya doesn't stay in Pattaya. In fact, it hangs around like an STD. Oh wait. It is STD.

                      • @[Deactivated]: TBH, I know very little about Pattaya and even less about it's ping pong-loving ladies. I've only ever been to Thailand once for a work team-building /meditation/survival experiment that included, among many other tribulations, a "fruit cleanse". I understand you don't approve of those? Neither did my digestive system, which is probably why I kicked up such a fuss when they suggested squirting 10-odd litres of coffee and vinegar, lemon or garlic solution - lightly warmed, mind you - up one of my orifices. I never went back to Thailand after that.

                        As for STDs , being a happily married man protects you from those, assuming that your spouse is also happily married :)

                        • @[Deactivated]: There's nothing wrong with fruit but having large quantities over a short period of time can only have detrimental long term effects if there were any effects at all.

                          The body is fairly self regulatory as long as nothing is no extreme external input. Eating a bushel of fruit is an example of extreme external input.

                          Having 10l of breakfast hosed up the keister is nothing short of bloody amusing. I've read up extensively on absorption of caffeine via the dirt road. My take home message is - don't sit on a bag of coffee beans.

  • +5

    You're an adult. You need to put your adult pants on and have that conversation. If you think they feel the same as you then its a pretty easy conversation.

    For all you know, he is looking for an out too but wants to avoid confrontation.

    Just start the conversation off as "Hey Name, I'm just curious…..how are you finding the living arrangements at the moment? The lease renewal is coming up soon and just wanted to have a conversation around our options…"

  • Start up a relationship with the housemate you want to live with, then make it super awkward and uncomfortable for the 3rd wheel with constant displays of affection.

  • +1

    October is only 5 weeks away, suck it up and use this time to find another place. problem solved with no confrontation and fair for everyone - no one is keeping the place and you guys might still even be friends after that.

  • +4

    I think both of you should call your Mummies to come and hold your hands .

  • +3

    Arrested Development S04E01 will show you exactly how you should handle this as sensible adults with a secret ballot vote.

  • +2

    Welcome to adulthood.

  • +2

    Tell Jeff Probst that the tribe has spoken and he’ll snuff out your housemate’s torch.

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