Included:
24 x Tier One ET Solar panels
1 SAJ WiFi inverter
Full mounting kits
Fully Installed by CEC accredited installer
There are many more brands available to choose like SMA, Fronius, ABB, Huawei, Goodwe, Risen, Jinko, Longi Trina etc.
Please contact us for more info.
thanks, will give it another shot
Hi paulw54jrn,
Sometimes email goes to spam. Could you please resend it send me your enquiry in the private msg?
So anyone had anything installed yet from these guys? Would love to hear their success/failure stories
I signed late last week, they phoned today, saying they have approval to proceed with the install and would like to be on-site tomorrow
Location? And what product price you getting?
Location is Kellyville.
I signed up for the standard, cheap package advertised here with SAJ Inverter and ET Panels.
They did, ask if I would accept a substitution of the 275W ET Panels for 285W Canadian Solar panels due to stock availability.
I thought it was a no brainer to accept, as according to reviews the Canadian solar have a slightly higher efficiency rating.
I did take the opportunity to ask, if I should uplift for a different inverter, and they said the option is there but the SAJ inverter has a 10 year warranty and will do the job fine. Any issues, they will will swap it out.
I wasn't charged extra for a tiled roof or double storey, also included the Meter Upgrade by the Energy Provider.
Sorry I should have said, it's a 2 day install. Tomorrow will be the panels, and next week will be the Inverter\Meter.
@[Deactivated]: Can u tell Me about the meter upgrade? I’ve got the spinning disc meter. Is that what u have too? Is that upgraded for free by energy retail provider?
@Bellpop: I have the spinning disk meter and an old spinning gross meter.
I am told my Energy Retailer (AGL) will replace\upgrade that for free. No, I won't be forced into time of day metering.
But yes, the new meter will be a smart interval meter, and many people dislike those.
@Bellpop: 3 installers, arrived today, as promised.
They inspected my roof and found 4 cracked tiles under the old panels, then walked me through the optimal setup for my roof.
Explained that one string would be smaller on a less optimal side. Ken had explained this earlier, so it wasn't a surprise.
They Explained that the inverter supports two independent feeds so one poor performing strong won't effect the other.
Sought confirmation, that I wanted to proceed
They were friendly, quite efficient and appeared competent. They replaced the broken roof times, and a few more they broke, and inspected the roof. They took all their rubbish away, and didn't make any mess.
Explained, I would expect a call to advise when the electrician will be out, with the expectation it will be Monday or Tuesday.
They left the Inverter, labeling, circuit breakers with me.
They did not ask for any more money, have only paid the $50 deposit.
Interestingly, my old premium panels had green moss like barnacles, so they would have needed a clear. The old panels were larger and quite heavy. They were also much smaller capacity than I recalled 128w.
The Canadian solar panels, seem quite well manufactured and built, including the connectors.
Anyway looking forward to having the Electrician come out and finish the install. I will ask if the Electrician will also do the meter, but I assume that will be a separate visit, as they said previously AGL would change the meter.
having the Electrician come out and finish the install.
so you're saying the ones that installed the panels weren't electricians?
Did they run any connect the panels together, DC cabling, install roof top isolators?
you know, all thing things which should be legally done by a licensed electrician ;)
@SBOB: Real positive vibe to your post.
What I can say, is this is just the same as my earlier premium install.
The Panels, actually just click and plug-into into each other. And yes for my earlier premium install an Electrician, to be precise LEVEL 2 came out to do any actual cabling.
Yes, a premium mob may complete everything in 1 day\visit.
The Panels, actually just click and plug-into into each other.
im aware how they connect
but connecting MC4 connectors is still electrical work and is required to be done by a licensed electrician
As is running in DC cabling through a roof or wiring up a roof top isolator
but hey, if you're happy having part of your electrical work done unlicensed
plenty of photos around of possible end results of poor RTI's or MC4 connections on the internet
many dont know what in a solar installation should be actually done by a licensed/qualified person
Wow great feedback!
In Rouse Hill, Got quote quote for $3499 with 21 x 315w Jinko Mono + Huawei inverter. let's see how it goes
Great setup, as per my post above, they installed the Panels today and so far I am quite happy with their service and communications.
The installers had plenty of time allocated to do the job and were in no way rushed.
Do you have a tile roof?
did they mention anything about covering broken tiles?
I had a quote from another solar company and they said I had to have spares available in case the installers broke any..
@impoze: Yes as per above, they found 4 broken and replaced, and they broke a few more. So YES have spares.
Is that a 3 phase inverter?
nah, it's Huawei SUN2000L-5KTL.
It's a two string / two MPPT single phase inverter
Spec sheet can be found here: https://support.huawei.com/enterprise/en/doc/EDOC1100011912
@paulw54jrn: I ordered the Huawei too and have two phase power. I wonder if down the track I can get the extra 5kw pumping? Is that your plan?
@Bellpop: ah k,
got quoted $3299 for 21x 315w risen panels with goodwe inverter, $3799 for a Fronius as I have 3 phase power.
@impoze: Are u dealing with Ken @SPN? I’m finding him great with getting back to me quickly. Even after deposit paid.
@Bellpop: This was via the call center.
Do you have Ken number? Can DM if you like
I haven't deposit yet,
The solarquotes reviews are quite scary lol
@impoze: At first, until you read the follow-ups. People seem to get their deposits back, and no issues with the install quality.
I think they are definitely prioritising metro installations, so if you are regional could be some delays.
I don't believe they are not a solar quotes client, so unsure how trustworthy those reviews are.
There is a lot of hate and spam posts from other sellers, so who knows. Time will tell.
@[Deactivated]: thanks, yep will see how it goes.
Over the past few weeks had been dealing with another company and was $7,200 for 315w risen & 10kw Fronius 3 phase which was one of the cheaper but have been rethinking to get a smaller system and get it paid off quicker.
Just received my winter bill and did average 6kWh a day.
7,200 for 315w risen & 10kw Fronius 3 phase
this is a massively better system than the one in this deal
your lifetime ROI, with a decent FIT, would be much better and give you more flexibility in the future regarding solar usage or storage
@SBOB: SBOB I’m amazed how moritivated u are to rubbish SPN at every chance. Hard to believe you aren’t affiliated with another solar company.
@Bellpop: Im not.. dont work in the industry, not even an electrician (though have a technical background)
did enough research into my own system and whats out there to have a pretty decent understanding of how the systems work, whats involved and what corners are cut in both equipment and installations to get the costs down
not sure how saying a Risen/Fronius 10kw system is massively better than an ET/SAJ 5kw system is 'rubbishing' solarpowernation..
thats practically the understatement of the year,
But anyway, 'ok google, remind me in 10 years'.. we can see how many people that took up this deal don't have any issues and whether SPN is still in business
@SBOB: Once you look at 3 phase it's a big jump in cost, but great for expansion.
24 x 315w is only 7.5kw. for over 3 times the price!! No bad feelings if you can afford that.
The other alarm bell, is the Inverter should be smaller than the panels (unless you are have room to expand in the future, and will likely expand). Inverters are cheaper all the time, so it's a risk sizing an inverter for future expansion.
And for 7.5kw, single phase is still good. 99% of the time you will be exporting under the 5kw cap.
Any lets just say for the 1hour a day you export 7.5kw (2.5kw above the cap, do you honestly believe you won't be consuming anything in the house at that time!!!) Worse case if you dump a few KW for minutes, even an hour on the ripper days, what you loose 10c?
Lets face it, if you sizing to export power, that is a bad move and will kill ROI.
If you generate more, consider a battery, but don't expect ROI.
Maximum ROI is to offset your usage during solar generation hours, not all hours!!
But yes having a zero power bill does look cool.
@[Deactivated]: I work from home and my wife works part time so we're home a lot during sun hours.
hoping to get solar before summer when the AC will get used a lot, it's run on 3-phase.
Do I still need a 3phase inverter or can I just go single phase?
@impoze: If your system can export more than 5kw (Inverter Size, not panels) to the Grid you need 3 phase OR an export limiter to be connected to the Grid.
If you are home during the day, you will be likely consuming what you generate, maximum ROI and be exporting very little. So could be a lot cheaper to have a limiter than 3 phase.
What I found out, and it may pay to check with your Energy Retailer, but this is what they told me.
Assume the following scenario;
Consumption:
- Phase 1 - 1 kw
- Phase 2 - 0 kw
- Phase 3 - 5 kw
Now, solar should ideally be on the phase with the most day-time usage, but lets assume it was on Phase 2 and exporting 5kw
The meter is smart enough to bill as follows;
- Consumption 6kw
- Export 0 kw (despite actually exporting 5kw)
- Usage 1 kw
So I would be billed for 1kw. I actually thought in the above I would export 5kw at 10c and buy 6kw at 22c!!
Don't get me wrong, 3 phase inverters are good, they are just not essential as many companies try and tell you that you need them.
Sorry just googled and found this; (a lot clearer than my ramble, but note their last sentence is misleading that anything over 5kw needs 3 phase. it's 3 phase or an export limiter)
https://solaray.com.au/ive-got-3-phase-power-but-ive-been-qu…
@[Deactivated]: ah ok,
so I could stick to a single-phase inverter, unless I want to export more than 5kw which requires 3 phase
@[Deactivated]: Where do they say 24 panels?
All I see is the panel wattage
Oversizing panels against inverter is standard these days, so I'm assuming it's at least 10kw of panels of not over.
And every energy provider meter measures export import across all phases. it's standard, regardless of single of three phase inverter.
The reason to go three phase is due to export limitations (some providers limit to 5kw, some are 10kw per phase. Depends on your area ) on a single phase and to also reduce the likelihood of system shutdown due to high voltage.
Hey I’ve made a forum post for those of us who ordered, and those who are thinking about it, to compare notes, progress and jobs.
Link here https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/485249
Is there much difference in quality and performance of this system vs the more expensive ones? Looking at getting one installed but am not sure if the "better" packages are worth the extra money. Also @mnalam24 please reach out to me if you are able to give me this price on a payment plan
yes, different panels have different performance ratings, watts per panel, warranties etc.
It also changes if you go for the black panels compared to the silver ones.
More expensive panels/inverters will have longer warranties as well.
Thanks do you know what the expected difference in $ savings would be per quarter for each of these?
Hey guys I’m thinking about solar panels. Is it best to get one with battery? We are usually out during the day. Tia
battery is still very expensive and not very cost effective.
what state are you in as there are different rebate schemes going on in different states.
Thanks we live in South Sydney so we should be ok (I did a bit of reading) would this system suit us? We use about 19 kWh a day
ah ok,
there is a battery program starting end of the year I think for NSW.
How much would you use in the daytime though? say between 6am - 6pm.
Also, what's your roof space like since that will determine the max size system you could get
@impoze: I don’t know exactly how much I use between those times. Me and kids get home around 3.30pm each day. Weekend we are here all day and that’s when I do mostly my washing.
My house is fairly big (two stories), but I am not entirely sure about the roof size. I’m attaching a photo of my roof, I’m number 16, the house at 12 has some solar panels as you can see and roof seems similar size.
@fozzie: looks like your house roof is mainly split East/West but you seem to have plenty of space on your roof for a decent sized system.
It all really depends on your usage, as getting a large system just to feed into the grid isn't the best way to maximise the system. Just means longer payback period.
What about cooling/heating throughout the day?
@impoze: Thanks impoze, we do a bit of heating early in the morning (like 7 for half hour) and maybe be an hour in the evening in winter, whilst at weekend a a couple of hours during the day.
In summer we have aircon on for 2-3 hours during the day up to 6, whilst weekend for probably 5 hours a day but mostly during the day.
@fozzie: if you schedule your heating/cooling throughout the day it could help offset the costs.
I've only just got the system put in so I'm curious to see how much my bill changes.
have already changed a few habits like running dishwasher in the day to utilise the solar, rather than at night,
Solar Quotes has a few handy calculators to help find out what size system you could use - https://www.solarquotes.com.au/calc5/
@impoze: Thanks Impoze. I run the calculator and I should be able to recoup cost of this system in 2 years. I think I will give this a shot as it should suffice for my household needs (this system will produce more than 20kwh a day). I have a dishwasher with delayed start too, and also Aircon’s with timers so I could be running the systems to warm/cool the house during the day (within reason as I also know Of impact on the environment hence me wanting to get a solar system too)
@fozzie: I've only had my 5kw system for a week, has been producing 30-40kw a day on average. Bear in mind we're heading into summer, and has been blue skies or partially cloudy this past week
FYI my experience
After sitting on the fence re solar for a long time a solar bargain listed on Ozbargain made it affordable to me. Like any good Ozbargainer I did my research. Amongst the answers were plenty of people telling me ‘avoid them at all costs’, ‘you get what you pay for’, ‘install job will be dodgy’, ‘they haven’t been in business long’, ‘they don’t know what they are talking about’, ‘they will take your deposit and run’, install times take months’, etc.
I understand some of the the doomsdayers were genuinely trying to help, while others were so negative that it felt like they had to have other motivations outside of just trying to help me. Some of the feedback made sense, things like ‘choose products that have offices in Australia, so if you need support, and SPN goes out of business, you can still make a claim’, as far as I’m concerned, that was great advice. So I did.
The initial deal was for a Raj inverter, Et panels and install for $2,399. I decided to get an upgraded quote with a Huawei 5kw inverter and Risen 330w Panels for $3,399. To me the double benefit of brand awareness and noted quality and a local warranty presence were worth the extra.
Before jumping all in, I did what the doomsdayers said and got local quotes for the same equipment, installed with local companies. The two local installers gave me quotes of $5,999 and $6,790. Both sales people were like used car salesman. Both tried to upsell me to unnecessary systems. One tried to sell me a bigger and more expensive 10kw system, even though I have one phase (5kw) power at my house (he said, trust me I know a guy who works for Energy Australia and I’m pretty sure it will work…).
Motivated mostly by price, I decided to go with SPN. There was no pressure to upgrade, those items that I chose to upgrade to were chosen because I requested them. Once I paid my $50 deposit I was given a tentative install timeframe of 3-4 weeks. I then got an email to say it would be in two weeks. I then got a courtesy call to say there had been a cancellation and I could get it done within the week.
I took them up on this, organised the day off. The installers arrived at 9am and to my surprise were one of the local companies who had quoted me $5,999. They had been contracted by SPN to do the install. So not only was I getting the best price, but I was also getting the install don’t be people who know the local conditions and work to a high standard. It was a win/win for me and debunked a lot of what online doomsdayers were saying.
The install took about 5-6 hours. It’s very neat and tidy. They were very good to talk me through the decisions they made for placement of panels, inverter and conduit. They were extremely polite and courteous. They did note that companies like SPN make it tough for them because they sell the same products as local companies, but as a cheaper price. They also said they do like them because they provide them with install work.
I was told by many people online that the ROI for my cheaper system will be longer because my energy generation will not be as high as others. I, as a noob, thought this would surely be the case, but was happy with my system, even if it made less power, because I wouldn’t have invested more than I had into solar, and thus wouldn’t have gone ahead with a more expensive system from a local business.
Long story short, my first day of power generation netted me 39.2kw of power. From what I can see on PVOutputs, it’s the highest amount in my suburb and pretty much the highest amount you can expect to make with a 5KW system. This results was then repeated on the next day. Everything ‘just works’. The Huawei app is amazing. And, for what it’s worth I had some questions to ask the local installer, but he didn’t have the answers. So I called Hauwei, they have a free call 1800 number that is manned 24/7 by engineers. 40 second wait time on Saturday afternoon. All my questions answered from a person speaking perfect English.
So, was I nervous and feeling like I was taking a punt by going against all the online resistance to SPN, hell yes. After biting the bullet, am I glad I went with them? 100%. I’ve crunched the numbers and at this rat my ROI will be less than two years and we won’t have another power bill over that time.
I’m sure the usual suspects will try to discredit all this, but honestly, there has not been one single incident that would prevent me from recommending SPN. Great customer service and a great product.
Pics of installed inverter and panels attached, along with screenshot of power generated for one day via Huawei app.
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Ok, you just sold me…
I was speaking to a sales consultant at spn who advised that you can't Install phase 1 system to phase 3 power which is not correct. I understand some companies prefer to connect phase 3 to phase 3, but it is definatley possible to Instal phase 1 without any issues. In fact other installers have advised it is the most common Install. I'm looking at sungrow inverter and risen panels
My system through SPN is 1 phase 5kw and I have 3 phase power
Has it been working Okay?
Why wouldn't it. Should be zero issue with a single phase inverter, as long as your under the distributors per phase export limit and there aren't any voltage issues in the area (a 3 phase inverter could assist in getting around either of those issues if they existed though)
@Bellpop: Inverter shuts down on high grid voltage as it can't export (limit set by distributor)
So if you're in an area with heaps of solar or poor infrastructure you could have cases where the line voltage exceeds the cut off and your inverter ramps down (eg bye bye solar generation)
@SBOB: Yep, been getting 30-40kwh a day
I think if you want to export over 5kwh then you need to get 3 phase inverter
@impoze: Depends on local supplier limits. some areas are 5kw per phase, some have no issues with 10, some may be less.
I've read that as well. Is there a way of knowing if there are voltage issues. I'm trying to work out if should go 1 or 3 phase connection. Difference approx $500.
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They have been really proactive with me. Lots of quotes for different setups. Check the email address?