Included:
24 x Tier One ET Solar panels
1 SAJ WiFi inverter
Full mounting kits
Fully Installed by CEC accredited installer
There are many more brands available to choose like SMA, Fronius, ABB, Huawei, Goodwe, Risen, Jinko, Longi Trina etc.
Please contact us for more info.
:) Great minds think alike, I just checked what I currently have
Samil Solar River SR3K3TLA1
12x 265w LG Mono X Panels
https://imgur.com/gallery/RoHbMGR
5kw per phase to export i belive.
How did you set up PV output? Was looking to do itas well, but my installer reckoned there is no way to automate it with an ABB inverter.
I use a wire tap that just rings around my input voltage and one for solar , this way you don't need a particular inverter you just install it youself a kit like this is required, https://reductionrevolution.com.au/products/efergy-engage-hu…
I got mine dirt cheap when Masters were closing $25 ! Maybe hunt around good luck!
How does this company compare vs b solar?
What is the brand of panels and are they Poly or Mono and what inverter do you get for that great price?
Do you service Hobart, Tasmania?
In Qld I can recommend "keen 2b green". These guys are not just fly by nighters and have quality service.
I just had my Aurora inverter replaced by them last week under warranty after it died 6 years after installation.
Great service and I remember at the time they were competitive on price (not the cheapest) and recommended on Whirlpool.
keen2bgreen are great, got a 6.6kw system from them in january and haven't paid for power since install. Every question I've had after installation they've been more than happy to assist with.
Do you run clothes driers? I've wondered how efficient solar would be on those rainy overcast days with near 100% humidity (when you need them most)?
You've got to be crazy to think this is a good deal. Hope your insurance is up to date
I'm in the industry and solar is not the kind of deal you want a bargain basement price on.
Getting a good deal is achieved by getting good equipment with a top notch installer
‘I’m in the industry’ no vested interest to see prices stay high here… hmm
Or, he's giving honest feedback about an industry he knows about which is filled with dodgy installers that will mess your house up.
Judging by your 48 questions you've asked here, I'd take it ozyboy knows a bit more about solar than you do.
You get what you pay for in solar
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The saying "Too good to be true" is especially prevalent when it comes to solar panel installs. Be prepared to get CRAP gear, and then ZERO after sale service when it fails, which it will.
You realise that there's another $4k of STCs on top of this, right? So the price difference between a $5k system and a $2.4k system is really only a 29% difference in how much money the solar providers make.
Ha, my favourite part is this post is now linked on the 'Crap Solar' Facebook page…
Some people just want to convince themselves that they "got what they paid for" on a $7K system.
Settle down man. You’re getting very excited.
You must have a low bar for what's deemed excited.
Sounds more like advertising than a proper deal to me? Pretty same deal as what I have seen at shopping center booths around. So many solar companies these days try to sign up as many as installations possible, then suddenly gone missing when they make the buck. Often their customers dead in the waters with warranty issues or some didn't even get installed. Been there, done that, what a nightmare! Not saying this company is some pop-up scam, so it does seem so when they're trying to advertise product on OzB for quick buck.
P/S for the love of god, DO NOT go for some cheap-ass inverter! Get proper, it's the heart of the system! You'll have a nightmare when you try to find these pop-up companies to change for you!
Agreed, it doesn't cost much more for quality brands like Fronius on string inverters or Solaredge if you need optimised.
@mnalam24, I have 1.5 KW Panels, paid for themsleves years ago, but the inverter died and hasn't been cost-effective to replace.
Will you guys remove the old panels?
Same here. Inverter dies.
I got 2 quotations and both happy to remove the old ones for $100, 200
Hi, please email [email protected] for a detailed quote with your choice of products. Pls mention ozbargain
Also mention that you would like us to remove exiting systems, we will definitely help you. We do that for many customers as they don't have enough space on the roof and have single phase
Please email us to [email protected] and we will be able to help you with that. Pls mention your requirements and mention ozbargain.
Hi. I m not sure if replied before. But yes we can help you. Please contact us
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/483479#comment-7733761
Care to answer my question since youve replied to just about everyone else
Edit: im not expecting a reply,
And if i do get one, it wont address, or will be completely irrelevant
Calculate Solar system payback here: https://www.solarchoice.net.au/blog/solar-power-system-payba…
Read the Whirlpool Solar forum, lots of great info there: https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/143?g=371
My last cheap solar system saw the inverter die 4 times in ten years.
I have just done an install will AHE Group. Top service and workmanship and a great price for quality products.
I have been thinking about going solar for long time but prices for a 6kW systems and online quotes were always around $6-7K so never really decided to go for it.
How come this 6.6kW system is so cheap ? $2400 ? does that include install? At this price, I am super tempted. How do I know which panels and inverter to get ?
Hi Omarko.
The price includes installation as well. If you aren't comfortable with the products in this deal you can change for little extra. Please email [email protected] with your requirements and we will be able to help you decide.
Purchased from these guys a year ago. Apart from the delay at the start product and and installer were excellent. Last 2 quarter bills were $5. In Qld and get 19c feed in Tarif with energy Australia.
How much did u pay for your system? Which panels and inverter did u get? Thanks mate
$3100 last year. I believe the rebates are better now. Same inverter and panels advertised now.
Thanks mate. Can u monitor usage via an app for free?
Thought I'd add my 2c regarding solar.
I purchased mine last year (not from the OP), and did quite a bit of research before pulling the trigger.
5 things to consider in my opinion:
Installer quality and reviews on solarquotes.com.au - the reason for this is mainly for inconvenience. You may get a cheap price but the inconvenience of things going wrong, leaks, etc might cost you more in the long term. Remember, this is typically a once in a 10 year investment, you want to make sure it can last a while.
Check pvoutput.org - what I find as a great indicator of whether you can trust your combo/setup for your area, is going to pvoutput and using their search to look at your postcode, and find others who have recently uploaded their solar data, and then check out what panels and inverter they have. You'll then get the most accurate indicator of how much you might generate based on your location and orientation.
Wifi / smart meter - I think this was the best investment for me. You can monitor everything down to when a light switches on, the amount of increased power used vs your Central heating etc.
Time lag for grid connection - once it's installed, the setup gets checked by some independent auditor. They don't actually go on your roof (I don't think) but this takes a while depending on the demand and supply of these guys. I think from installation to grid connected, it took about 2 months for me. Be conscious of this.
Get a quality inverter, as I've read that these tend to break faster than panels, so make sure that warranty from the manufacturer is 10 years.
Fyi, I've posted a few videos on my setup on YouTube (https://youtu.be/ZzS2Y7QPKXY)
I don't think inverter quality matters much as long as it has 10yrs warranty and local office as living without solar doesn't cause any inconvenience in your life and expensive model doesn't provider any better performance.
It's all made in China by Chinese company anyway, the one famous brand installers talking about German tech is a German welding equipment company sold their brand to a Chinese company. Unless you pay 150% more for Korean or 200% for American.
They mostly covers call out charge for replacement as well so your installer will be happy to replace / fix it as well under warranty.
It's also easy/relatively cheap to replace when it fails after the warranty period.
Pvoutput often requires degree of tech skill to setup so don't think it can be the source of truth either.
Came across a quote for solar I received way back in April 2010. 6300w system using 30 Sony panels and Fronius inverted
Net, fully installed price after solar credits/RECs was quoted as $39,886.12. I never proceeded!
if you did do install then very likely still have premium FIT (60c) for a few more year, even assuming 5000mwh generated yearly that'd be $3000 in credit so that system probably would have paid itself off by now, if accounting for inflation. In fact most early adopter of solar on Whirlpool said they got the investment back and still raking in credit for half of the premium FIT period.
Wonder why do they need to advertise to get work if they are always overbooked.
Haha good call…
The industry is all about scale and growth. To win, you need to supply the lion's share of jobs, weed out the poor installers from your pools, have a better marketing/CX/sales/delivery/supply/logistics/admin/invoicing processes and back it up with customer retention and so on.
Well written management wordings, but still if a company that has 2 months waiting period for installation, gets more orders being ozbargained, the waiting period can increase to 3-4 months. And as a customer I will be highly disappointed with the wait time. Will end up giving negative reviews/comments about the company. If a company does not have enough resources to fulfill orders, why advertise and over book and later get kicked by the customers.
Just fyi, I went local and got a great working system all within a week.
So you order and they tell you there is a waiting period, but if it gets too long you don't just call and follow up, but you cancel and go all acid about them in public, trashing their name with nothing to gain other than retribution? This is why metrics do not work on the Internet, unless it is only machines contributing
I ordered from SNP, and they installed from go to whoa all done (and done well) in under 2 weeks
@resisting the urge: Reviews are all about a company and services it provides. If it cannot provide reliable service in due time, then the review can never be positive.
My inverter for a 1.5kw system was $2000 alone. This price for the whole kit seems too low.
your inverter must be made of gold and silver. nice rip-off
Based on this the price was about right actually
https://www.canstarblue.com.au/solar-power/fronius-solar-inv…
No rip off bro. Just a good quality inverter.
or they bought a decent quality inverter
eg a Fronius 5kw inverter is about 2k on its own
yeah but for a 1.5kw system? very mean upsell by the sales
@thekensai: they didnt say when they bought it though
not sure anyones selling 1.5kw systems these days
@SBOB: Been happy with it. There was some weird stuff early on where the voltage in the street would get high and shut it down, but they came out and increased the threshold and all good after that
If you buy an inverter standalone, you pay way more than as a package as you don't get any rebates.
Great and awesome if you are in NSW!
Any idea about the least expensive costs for a similar installation in VIC please?
Ozbargain users: go on ozbargain looking for bargains
finds bargain solar
No deal, negging because too cheap 😭😳🙄
we all want bargains but we don't want to pay money and end up with no panels for 6 months!
Ozbargin pros should know when to walk away :)
I'm not saying they are good or bad. But if people are so worried about the quality of the installation then when they install, pay a third party top tier solar installer to do a full inspection upon completion and any dodgy workmanship you can raise with this installer for rectification before paying the full amount. cost would be about $290 for the full inspection by a third party. I know because I just had one done following another installer (provided with full report including pictures), which picked up poor junction box fitment and poor fitment of the 2 DC isolators, particularly cabling and risk of water ingress. 2399 + 290 is still a lot better than all the other options out there.
How do we find a top tier solar installer?
I been ozbaigan for awhile but seldom comment. This solar cheap cause on the final quote they properly write 8k job. You sign off and they profit from government rebate. My work friend have similar quote from different solar business, he didn’t go ahead cause seem doggy. Just remember back then free house insulation job (product was shit insulation). Anyway, there’s always a saying you get what you pay for!
Lol as someone who installed the insulation, how was it shit? Only some people used foil on the floor of the house, a useless endevour as dust lays on it and it gets electrified… Only some installers used crap china insulation, we used pink batts or bradfords. For skillion roofs we used aus prime-fiber celulose or rockwool blow in insulation.
So maybe dont make blanket statements when you havnt got much of a clue.
And recently used a cyclone proofing grant to replace a roof on my house, it got an extra .6 of strapping compared with a new build, the roofer was local and knew his shit. It looks a million bucks and was made very well.
Bought a system with 5.6kW solar PV system with tier 1 Risen poly Risen panels and Sungrow inverter for $3699 from Sunterra who are CEC certified retailer over 3 years ago and can say that the system has been very reliable, now arranging to get my daughter who has moved into her new house a 6.615 kw solar PV system with 21 Risen 315W MONO Half Cell Black Frame - RSM120-6-315M panels and a Growatt 1P 5kW - Growatt 5500MTL-S inverter for $2590 after rebates also from Sunterra,the panels,inverter and retailer are all Clean Energy Council Approved and the new Growatt inverters are very reliable compared to the older model, i wonder what panels and inverter solarpowernation's deal are using.
Hi Norton.
If you can email [email protected] and mention the brands you are after, we will be happy 5k quote them for you.
Pls mention ozbargain for ref
Any rebate for NSW?
How much do you save a year?
Is there some kind of recharge storage batteries to use the captured solar power at night?
If not, then you would only be saving electricity during the day?
no batteries to store electricity unless you want to set up your own, at a cost 2-3 times of this quote.
Yes you need to depend on the grid when sunlight is low or none
Hi Congo.
This is grid connected system. It has no battery. It will only work when there is sun. Whatever you do during the day, you will use from solar power. Extra power will go back to the grid, and you can sell that power at a rate between 6-13 cents per kw.
This is system is expected to produce upto 24kw per day depending on how much sunlight they get.
You can contact us at [email protected] for more info.
Has anyone received a quote with an upgraded inverter?
Does anyone know if the railing / bracket fittings work with different panels. Eg: if the panels does after 3 years would you be able to swap the panels out with an equivalent spec but different brand etc.
Cheers.
Yep, got quote with huewe inverter. Total was $3080.
Huawei
Haha yeah I can never spell it. Apple guy here.
Anyone got advice on a good mob in Melbourne for solar that won't rip off??
any in general what a good medium teir 5.4 with future battery support system would be, inverter pannels to get etc?
Pretty much all systems can easily have a battery added later with not to much difficulty.
have recently got a quote in Syd, NSW from Energus after reviewing a few
36 X 315w Risen Half Cut Panels with Fronius inverter: 11.34kw for $7199
thoughts?
You can only grid connect 5kw per phase i belive.
That is what I had been told in the past, but now understand that without 3 phase, you can only export 5 kw\h to the grid, some sort of export clipping is applied.
Now if you purchase a 6.6kwh system, the majority of the time (except a few hours a day), would likely be exporting less than 5 kwh anyway.
Options
- Upgrade inverter (makes no financial sense, unless the system is considerably larger)
- Live with the small amount of clipping
- Drop panels
Clarification: They install an export clipping device, if you're exporting more than 5kwh into the grid 10c kwh, from a 6.6kwh system, you probably shouldn't have purchased solar, in the first place. :)
@[Deactivated]: why shouldn't you have solar?
it'll be on a 10kw inverter - 3 phase.
I asked the retailer today and said over 5kw, you have to have 3-phase, and can be up to 15kw
I have been searching for solar for years, probably have over 20 quotes, but all the pricing seemed excessive for what you get, and could never make the math stack up.
Got a quote from these guys today, and they seemed really switched on. I was going for the inverter Upgrade, but settled back on their default dual string unit.
My currently (faulty solar) unit was a so-called Premium Japanese model, installed way back in the day and had no end of issues, anyway thinking inverters are on the ground not too hard to replace. Removal of the old panels was a bit high, but this is an end to end quote with only $50 deposit.
They claim, single story installs are often done the same week at the moment, and for this double story job, probably next week. (Skeptical but let's see).
When I had my original system installed by Origin, it was an absolute crap fight to actually get it hooked up, they couldn't find a level 2? tech anywhere!!!
When the government audited my Origin setup, numerous issues were found.
The guy up the street had his installed at the same time, and paid 6x for a premium install (Modern Solar?), lets just say I paid mine off in < 2 years, one of those grubs getting 66c feet-in tariff, and he has had no end of issues with a so called premium install.
Interestingly, I have 3 phase and actually thought they had to install a 3 phase Inverter, but apparently not.
The energy supplier will replace the meter with a 3 phase meter. I don't need to worry about feeding into the phase with the most day time usage, as although I may feed all back into the grid, and then drawing all usage from another phase, the meter is smart enough to calculate my usage after deducting solar generation (even though it was fed back into the grid). Yes, complex and poorly explained by myself, but good to know.
ie:
Power usage at a point in time
- Phase 1 = 0
- Phase 2 = 1
- Phase 3 = 2
solar generates 4kw into phase 1 (single phase inverter, can physically be hooked into 1 phase)
The Energy meter says (total usage 3 kw, I generated 4 kw, so I get the 10c feed in on 1kw)
I was worried, I pay for 3 kw at the 22c, while dumping 4 kw in at 10c, so was worried about making sure the solar was installed on the phase with the most usage during the day!!!
Good write up. Why did u decide of the default Saj inverter? I’m sonsidering paying $600 more the the huewae inverter…
I may have not made the correct call.
- From the efficiency stats of systems deployed with these panels and Inverter seem to do their jobs okay.
- $600 is less profit
- The default unit has 10 year warranty, and yes there is a risk it won't be repaired, but that is with any unit. My last inverter cost a small fortune and when it broke, still under warranty Sharp would not repair claiming it was damaged by lightning.
I had quotes to replace and it wasn't that much, and the way they keep getting cheaper was hesitant to spend more than required.
I have been here 14 years, probably won't be here in 10 years time. Considered having solar, is just another plus. (not expecting it to sell for more)
If you can afford for a better heart, go for it.
Thanks mwte Can u use any apps with the Saj inverter for real time data of power generated, sold back to grid, used by house, etc? Thanks again for the info mate
@Bellpop: I know it comes with an App for your phone, and the data is accessible over WiFi web page.
Unsure about compatibility with other apps.
Reviews are always tough, but the SAJ has been in Aus for man years know, and according to some reviews has an efficiency rating of 97.71% on the 5KW – beating both the SMA and the Aurora.
I don't claim or expect it to be the BEST, but it seems good, especially for the price and functionality.
The reviews out seemed genuine.
I’m sonsidering paying $600 more the the huewae inverter…
easiest decision ever
Try and find any reviews on a Saj inverter
At least HUAWEI are a sizeable brand and get somewhat ok reviews (assuming its limitations suit your roof)
e.g. https://mcelectrical.com.au/blog/huawei-inverter-review/
(I would also step up from ET panels to something with local manufacturer support)
Thanks for the feedback. Which is the cheapest panel with local support?
Maths only stacks up if the life of the system is decent. Shouldn't just be aiming for break even, but lifetime roi on the syarem
Plenty of bill buster deals don't add up on that second count.
Been there tried that. My earlier so called premium system, still has working panels, but the output is too low to even bother keeping on the roof.
If your not pulling your weight financially, off you go. The tech in the solar space, just keeps on advancing.
I went with 21 x Longi panels and a 5kw SMA inverter…
My system was installed approx 2 weeks after I ordered
Longi have made for LG and others (https://www.lumaxsolar.com.au/are-longi-a-good-solar-panel-4…)
I reiterate, I am not associated with SPN, and I posted on OzB because I had previously had much higher quotes from other solar companies for a very similar system.
My system (that I specified) was quite a bit more that the $2399 system though.
My own experience with SPN was very good, dealing with their contractors was good as well.
How much was your setup?
My system was just under $3,900… all of the other solar companies I contacted for the exact same system were around twice the price.
I had the advantage that I knew quite a bit about solar systems and equipment, and so I actually specified what I wanted.
As I said in earlier posts, I dealt with a guy called Shaun at SPN, he understood what I wanted, and I have given his name to a number of friends in Qld and in SA.
Kind of surprising that so many people on OzB have negged my posts, without knowing nor understanding what I said.
Seems totally against OzB to jump on someone genuinely praising a company for providing what I requested - for the best price !
I could provide Shaun's direct line if anyone wants to verify my story.
Seems totally against OzB to jump on
a first time poster
that would have been the basis for the negs, first time poster praising a company
objectively, thats always gonna look suss :)
@SBOB: Just a shame that the keyboard warriors don't think first, nor ask questions before being so negative…
Like I said, happy to be verified, not so happy to be vilified.
My system was just under $3,900… all of the other solar companies I contacted for the exact same system were around twice the price.
Do you think it make senses for someone to sell at half compare with others, in the industry that so competitive? If just 20% cheaper maybe okay but 50% that's a lot of money (from the seller point of view).
@CyberMurning: All I know is, I did the investigations, I contacted several companies asking for quotes and what I found was all of theme were around 50% more.
I contacted SPN, and got them to quote, and was a bit skeptical myself.
But, to my surprise they took my order I paid $150 deposit and my system was installed approx 2 weeks later.
I was pleased, so I thought it made sense to make a positive comment from my perspective when I saw a posted deal for SPN on OzB.
@CyberMurning: It was fairly easy. I was aware that SPN, and many others large solar retailers, all used 3rd party contractors to do the actual installation work.
Once I knew who would be doing the installation works, and that they were indeed qualified tradies, it was just a case of comparing 'apples for apples'.
Some providers 'apples' I specified was around 50% dearer than SPN.
The final decision made perfect sense to me !
sent a request for quote to the email address supplies on 15 and haven't heard anything since. did anyone else had similar experience?
![[NSW] 6.6kw Solar Power Installation for $2399 @ solarpowernation](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/79/483479.jpg?h=92b97350)
same as my question..