Included:
24 x Tier One ET Solar panels
1 SAJ WiFi inverter
Full mounting kits
Fully Installed by CEC accredited installer
There are many more brands available to choose like SMA, Fronius, ABB, Huawei, Goodwe, Risen, Jinko, Longi Trina etc.
Please contact us for more info.
Understand this guy (not the poster, the bloke on the website) is a broker of leads to the solar industry. He might have worked for the CSIRO but everyone that came from that website quoted me rubbish cheap panels/inverters and were high pressure. Daily calls until i blocked their numbers after saying no.
OP, can you install in Perth Metro?
At $1 /km, you'll be up for an extra $3,800+ each way for travel from Wetherill Park!
The travel cost will be calculated from Perth, not from Wetherill park
Yes we can.please email [email protected] for a detailed quote with your choice of products. Pls mention ozbargain
OP Can we please get the model numbers of the items used? Us ozbargainers love to be informed consumers. Thanks :)
Beside the panels and the inverter, watch out for the DC isolator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITfQ4S0OUhs
Is the inverter efficient enough to make the most of the solar panels?
OP if you promise to look after ozb member i Will be getting one from you.
Haha I feel like we have some power in numbers. So that’s reassuring. A little. It’s a brave new world.
Of course. Ozb probably in like the top 25 most visited website in Australia.
Prob just me refreshing 😭
Just be careful. I'm not saying they are no good, but do your homework first. Common problems people have with low end/budget solar packages is not with the actual equipment but the install. They cut corners when installing, such as not grinding tiles back properly or doing dodgy work cutting holes in your roof to run cables or just running the cables outside. The systems usually work for a while then have problems down the road. Again, it's not the hardware but the poor quality of installation and how long it lasts until repairs are needed.
Yep, nothing like saving a few bucks to let someone do a crap install job on your several hundred thousand dollar house ;)
To be fair the house I am currently in can't really get any worse aside from the walls and roof falling apart.. It might actually crumble any day now.
How much for a 6.6kW system with Solax inverter and poly panels?
Hi, please email [email protected] for a detailed quote with your choice of products. Pls mention ozbargain
I have 6kw system installed last year with Qcell and Fronius at $4.7k. Though there were heaps of cheap panels and inverter I am really happy with what I have. Today mine produced 29.24kw in Sydney.
I have a 6.6kw and 5kw Solax inverter, I get 35-37kw+ each day.. QLD tho. System cost was $4290, but got $500 back from combank effectively making it $3790. Pretty happy with that.
I've 5.2kw. 20 panels, installed by Captain Green 3.5 years ago and paid $5.5K. Highly recommend them. Few of my friends used them as well and were happy with them.
I haven't paid more than $2000 on electricity so far in 3.5 years. Currently with Origin getting 20c FIT. Today it generated 25.89kwh. so far 24.691 mwh generated by my solar.
Edit: I'm in Penrith area, NSW.
That's awesome.
I had captain green install 2 years ago. And the installer was absolute rubbish. He did a good job but they took too long. Paid a deposit in December. And Didnt get fully functioning install till April.
Having said that I think I paid too much for a 4kw panels and 5kw inverter. I was $4500.
Still able to produce 19kw today in Sydney
Same with me, went with captain green 23 panels of 270W and 5kw zeversolar a year ago. I have no idea why my output is so low, only 10.9kwh today in sydney.
@ntb: That's pretty crap
I'd be getting a solar specific electrician to check it
Could be one of your strings is dead
That's about 1/3rd what a 'normal' system of that size in Sydney would have produced today (assuming no shade issues, north facing panels etc etc)
@ntb: Is north up in that?
I'm surprised you can have a string setup with such varied panel numbers in 3 directions.
@ntb: by the look of your set up, unless you have micro inverter then no wonder your output is low because most string inverter only have 2 strings and you're suppose to have every panel in one string in the same orientation (plus or minus a few degree angle). Because total output of 1 string will be throttle by the panel(s) with lowest output, e.g. if you got 10 panel on sunny day with all maxing out 3000w (300w each) , for some reason only 1 panel got covered by a neighbour tree and reduced to 100w then the whole string output will be down to 1000w. With your setup then very likely 1 string got hooked up with 2 different orientation and at anytime there'll be one side of roof producing suboptimal output because they have different angle to the sun.
@lgacb08: Thank you very much for the explanation. Does it affect the whole system output or just panels in 1 string? Because there are 12 panels facing NW so I believe they should be in 1 string, assuming they only yield 50% capacity during the day; the output should be at least 12 x 270 x 0.5 = 1.62 KWh just for that string. My system never give out more than 2.5KWh even in summer. :(
@ntb: Does your inverter not have a display or web interface to show you things like per string power or voltage/current.
Middle of a sunny day, those numbers should help show what's possibly not working/which string is the weak link (assuming it's a dual mppt inverter string setup)
But unfortunately, it's likely the only way to improve it is get the original installers back (if it was bargain basement system that may be difficult) or a decent solar elec and see what's required to get the most out of the system.
@SBOB: Unfortunately no, the display and app interface only give out total output number. I've already logged a complaint with Captain Green, lets see how things go.
Wow - that is an awesome price
I would recommend people stick clear of products without an Australian office, that way if the solar installer goes bust (like many do) then you have someone to fall back on for warranty claims. In this case ET solar don't have an Australian office and I've never heard of SAJ inverters but a quick google seems to indicate no Australian office. Also fake reviews are rife in the industry, DYOR, solar systems aren't normally comparing apples for apples and you get what you pay for.
I have ET panels and setup is ranked 99th of all global installs on PVoutput when ranked by efficiency over last 1660 days. No issues. Good panels
Wow. That’s solid feedback.
do those numbers match exactly with your power bill?
thats good efficiency (and I wouldnt think SMA were one of the inverters that somewhat 'overcount' their actual production)
you must have a pretty ideal layout (likely not achievable by most peoples location/roof layouts)
Synergy Perth, 4x2, 4pax, with pool pump and solar heating in summer.
Number bit high in winter as were running heated throws and blankets most nights.
$266 59 days Jul
$182 44 days June
$168 49 days May
$102 60 days Mar
$111 62 days Nov
Stay away from these mongrels. They will take your deposit and then will forget about it. Happened to me and 2 of my friends. Don't waste your time with them.pay a little extra with someone who has real reviews on services.
Have u got some emails to show correspondence? What excuses did they use? How much time did u give them? How much was your deposit? Why didn’t u go to dept of fair trading?
Message me your e-mail address I will email it to you
Black out the personal details and upload an image?
@spaceflight: I don't think ozbargain allows image upload in comments section. I tried but I could not find an option
People need up understand how companies work.
They protect the owners from personal law suits
If I wanted to, I could create a company, take hundreds of thousands of $ in deposits for installs and then pay out my salary and then go under.
To get your money back would be such a nightmare most will right it off. Likely years in court and even then you'd only get some of it back if you were really lucky.
Id be installing only if they didn't charge a deposit or used an escrow. Definitely not giving them money
Credit card charge back/PayPal dispute?
Not once a certain period expires. Some are 120 days. So they book you in for 3 months time. At month 3 they say, we're just waiting for the inverter, will be 2 weeks. 2 weeks come around, there was a problem with the model they sent us, 2 more weeks. 2 weeks come around and you're at 120 days.
Buyer be warned.
The deposit they asked for is $50. No one getting rich and ruining their name for 50 beans…
@Bellpop: It's all in the numbers
1000 people x 50 = $50K
10000 x 50 = $500k
It's like the lock stock thing with the fake company scam. Pay cheque to a nice company name, refund from Barry's big black dildos… No one is cashing that cheque
I got my money back after 2 months of wait and constant calling. Excuses were they ran of the panels they promised me 4 weeks installation so after 4 weeks I will have to wait another 4 weeks for installation and after 4 weeks told another 2 week. That too I had to call and find out myself no one cared to tell me that things are getting delayed. Thier customer service is a joke. Deposit was only 200$ my friend's gave them 400$. I didn't got O fair trading cos I got my money back. I will look for emails. I will probably post the screenshots.
Some interesting issues in the T&Cs
https://www.solarpowernation.com.au/terms-conditions.php
"Solar PV System requires servicing every two years by a licenced Solar Installer" (for warranty to be valid)
"1.5% surcharge applies to Balance Payments via CC"
"If the installation has not been completed by 31st December 2017, you will be required to pay an additional cost of up to $1,000 in excess of the quoted price" (Might want to improve the quality assurance)
"You agree to pay Solar Power Nation the STC's for the installation as part-payment for your system."
"The Solar PV System comes with up to 10 Years Installation Warranty from Solar Power Nation in conjunction with the Manufacturer's Warranty."
-note some manufacturer warranties require the panels to be sent back to the overseas factory at the consumer's expense.
(Disclaimer - I don't know anything about the solar industry, but these items stood out to me)
First one is dodgy
Second seems fine, cc surcharge
Third needs updating but likely to cover any yearly supplier price increases
Fourth is standards
Fifth says 'up to', which seems interesting.
Sixth is 100 percent dodgy and why you shouldn't buy panels without local manufacturer support.
I agree on most of your points except the first condition as it won't limit any statutory warranty or obligations, and it's probably just there because some lawyer thought they needed to be covered against someone making a claim when their system was covered in crap from the nearby road/or a previous dust-storm, etc. There is no way that item will ever prevent a claim, any plaintiff would already be prepared with written evidence from a CEC approved installer that the system was failing and it wasn't due to dirt and lack of maintenance.
Re the 5th condition, "is up to", as I imagine not all offers include the warranty, they may make exceptions, eg in harsh environments, such as near sea, etc.
I'm yet to see a large installer with nicer conditions
Ah.. pass then.. because of the servicing and send back overseas.
Sending overseas depends on the panel manufacturer - they list several different types.
Well, they may list several different types but you don't know what is applicable to this particular offer as the rep said you would need a quote to get that info.
Reluctance to disclose what manufacturer(s) they're using in this deal is slightly off-putting.
ACT?
Hi, please email [email protected] for a detailed quote with your choice of products. Pls mention ozbargain
The solar installation business if full of fly-by-nighters
Solar Power Nation was only registered with ASIC less than 4 years ago so not a real long track record in the business.
Remember, it is of little consolation to have 10 year to 25 year warranty on parts if the installer is long gone.
Even the 'inspection' industry that is meant to keep these fly-by-night companies in check.
The inspector signed off, and never visited when I got mine installed years back. It wasn't installed correctly, only produced 50% power, lucky the electrician came back to answer a neighbors complaint. Then a year after the system failed, they hadn't earthed the panels.
My sister had a job installed, and the breaker switch wasn't installed correctly. This too was 'inspected', and water got into the incorrectly installed switch and caught fire. Lucky a neighbor saw the sparks/fire when they were at work and called the fire brigade.
I want to know.. What are the chances for service when there is a fault when the bulk of installs rely on volume sales????
How do u know theyll be around in the next say 3 years. All it takes is a change of abn and business name. How many times have u changed business over the past years?
Yep
People should search for the company name in places like 'solar q&a aus/nz' to get an idea of their reputation, quality etc
'Bill Buster specials' are popular on there ;)
Search by ABN, but even then they don't have to do much. I had to take my installer to VCAT to get them to pay for repairs that their incorrect installation had caused. Was out of pocket, and they didn't get a fine or even any other negative.
Anyone can recommend some good and reliable Victorian solar installers. Being at OZB I’d chuck in a clause for great pricing too! Thanks guys!
Origin Energy - you can be sure they will be around for 25+ years for any warranty issues.
Boils down to do want a cheapie installation or a "peace of mind" installation?
I did a 5.4kw system with origin, 2 years interest free just finished last payment. Local grade 1 electrician did the install, fantastic job.
Local grade 1 electrician did the install
so.. like the lowest grade :)
Tier 1 panels? Wow these must be great!
How much to do up a van with 12v panel < 300 W, 110 Ah deep cycle battery, inverter and regulator etc. Could be a market for the summer backpacker season.
Really not that hard to DIY
Yeah. Just thinking if the price of parts extrapolates. Don't even need the labour :)
I reckon this site is worth the time to have a read if you are interested in installing solar:
SOLAR 101: A BEGINNER’S GUIDE
Lol, either work for them or on commission
Assure you I don't work for SPN.
I fully realise that there'd be people that are very skeptical.
Guess there are rules for posting personal info, but I'd be happy to share my own 'verifiable' purchase from SPN
But I realise there are doubters, and probably nothing I can say that will change peoples minds…
You can always pay much more to other solar companies!
of all the posts in your 'long time reader' life, this is the one that made you sign up and post
what are the odds :/
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Just called and asked for Shaun.
"Hi. Is Shaun there?"
"Speaking."
"Ernie sent me."
"ErnieAU? Haven't heard from the legend in ages. How's he doing?"
"He seemed OK. Didn't really discuss his personal life when we spoke."
"Fair enough. So how can I help you?"
"Nah, that's all. Just running an errand he requested via OzBargain. Do you require my services as well?"
"Sorry mate, you're not making much sense. Can I actually help you with anything?"
Then I hung up, before it got awkward. Story mostly checks out though.
@justtoreply: Yeah I just assumed it was a bit like Mel B or Melanie C. A differentiator from all the other Ernies. But now that you mention it I don't know anyone outside of the Spice Girls that shortens their name like that.
Admittedly it was a little strange that he said he hadn't heard from Ernie "in ages". But when 2 people really connect I suppose a week can feel like forever. I've never really built such a connection with another human being. But I've also never had a solar system installed.
Just going on my experiences… I have purchased lots of things because of deals posted hereon OzB.
Standouts such as the SoundPeats ear phone, the recent Officeworks external hard drives, to name but a few.
Fully realise that there would be doubters, but I just wanted to give OzBargainers some feedback on my own experience.
Shame that there seems to be so much negativity, rather than asking about what system / equipment I chose, and how the install went and how my order was dealt with.
:-/
Because my system was installed last week… and then this came up on OzB.
I was happy to tell OzB about my own experience.
Is that Wrong ?? I thought this was what OzB was all about…
Which inverter did u go with?
When did you order your system?
So what panels and inverter and for what price?
I had 21x Longi 315W panels and a SMA 5Kw inverter (Qld allow up to 5Kw on single phase) I chose the Longi 315W panels because Longi have been trusted to manufacture cells/panels for LG Solar at one stage.
My system was just under $3,900 installed.
I figured that if Longi were trusted by LG, and based on cost of Longi's panels it was worth it to me.
The system is installed, working exactly as expected, and whilst I am waiting for the new Smart Meter to be installed, the solar system during daylight, is spinning my old meter backwards at a fair rate!
Longi have been trusted to manufacture cells/panels for LG Solar at one stage.
got any links to back up that claim?
Longi are decent panels for the price range they fit in, but not in the same league as LG
@SBOB: I think Longi simply make the ingots for a number of panel manufacturers. The manufacturers then make the ingots into a panel. Think of ingots like raw material.
That being said, Longi don't have an Australian office so if you need to make a warranty claim, you're really at the mercy of the retailer/distributor being around and willing to help. I could have got Longi but went Jinko (same price point) as they have an Australian office, have been used locally for a long time (Longi is still very new here) and came equal second in the choice panel test (lg were first)
@SBOB: https://www.lumaxsolar.com.au/are-longi-a-good-solar-panel-4…
Couldn't post earlier… OzB has limits on new members.
ErnieAU Member Since: 50 min ago
Ha, I'm not a socketpuppet … ignore the man behind the curtain …
This post is kinda like when JJB pretended to write a post as his kids. Worth a shot but you're not fooling anyone
Peanuts and monkeys
if this is in VIC. I would surely go for it. But I have 1.5KW system,Can this be installed in addition to the existing ? then I would never have to pay electricity bill I guess.
They don't do VIC 'cause it's too hard to scam the state government.
hahaha. Good one.
I'm in QLD, already have solar for the past 5+ Years but I do recall spending $8k+ getting the panels and inverter installed with my builders I ended up with LG Mono X Panels and a Samil inverter
I export my data to PV Output - https://pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=32219
I'm wondering if I can add this system deal ontop of my current system? have two separate systems running?
![[NSW] 6.6kw Solar Power Installation for $2399 @ solarpowernation](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/79/483479.jpg?h=92b97350)
This maybe worth a read for those new/unsure about solar Solar 101