Is My Co-Worker a Bully? or Am I over Reacting?

Bit of a long story so please take caution on time reading, but I find OzB good for advice on stuff like this, so thanks for your patience.

So I recently started a new part time job (bit less than 3 months ago). It's hands on, shift work with physical labour. We need to work in teams to make sure things get done within a certain time frame every 40 to 120 minutes depending on schedule.
There are levels to this job, and being inexperienced and untrained in the industry, I've started at the bottom.
You could say I'm overqualified because it's a physical labour job without any education requirements, and it's minimum wage but with great overtime and penalty rates. I've got a uni degree- but I don't care about that or the money- I like the idea of getting paid to exercise and working outdoors and doing only 30 hours a week (gotta look after my 11 month old son 2 days a week and my wife makes very good money in her job as a part time employee).

Anyway, the new job is going well, except I have one co-worker who is really starting to get under my skin. This person has been there 8 months, so a bit longer than me, and they are doing the exact same job as me. I am a hard worker and reasonably fast learner. Not perfect but average/better than average at picking things up.

From about one week in, this person started to getting into the habit of pointing out what I'm doing wrong, then advising me of the 'correct' way to do things. Although the 'correct' way would like telling me I'm mowing the lawn the wrong way, or making the bed the wrong way. eg Every person has their own style of completing this job, and as long as it's done correctly, safely and on time, there is no specific correct way- the official company trainer explained this to me and said I'm doing really well.
So yeah, this co-worker got into the habit of correcting me. I was okay with this, because I thought it must be this persons way of trying to help (even though the social awareness of how they were saying things wasn't there).
I thought that because I was new, I'll just shut up and nod and say 'sorry'- not wanting to cause any trouble as the new guy. (There were 3 of us who started at the same time). As a side note, this co-worker is a hard worker and is a reliable team member. Always on time, stays behind if needed- someone you can rely on. So there's no issues there and I'll give credit where it's due.

Anyway, after about 2-3 weeks it got to a point where the rude 'correcting' and helping, became, what I think is, aggressive, targeting behaviour. It came to a climax one afternoon when my co-worker basically lost their temper and aggressively said I was trying to do too much at once, and that it was going to cause a mistake that would cost us time, and that I needed to do one job at a time. (plenty of people do two jobs at a time, I now realize co-worker was probably upset that I was getting more done in the same amount of time, and didn't like it). Again, I said 'Okay, I'll take what you're saying on board'.

Literally 10 minutes later, the co-worker started doing the exact same thing they'd just yelled at me about. So I pointed it out and said 'so are you allowed to do that and I'm not?'. Co worker got defensive and said they were just trying to help get things done quickly, and that I need to calm down. So I confronted them right there and explained that they'd just told me not to do that, in a condescending, aggressive tone, and it was becoming a pattern, and that they needed to back off, or there was going to be a problem. (not a physical problem, just that I wasn't going to put up with it.)
They then apologised and said that it wasn't me, it was their personal situation at home, and that a close family member is dying of cancer. I already knew this as co-worker brings it up regularly with everyone as an excuse for their behavior.
Regardless, I said I respect their hard work and appreciated their 'helping' me as a newer member of the team. Although I'd already complimented this person on their hard work multiple times over the past few weeks, this broke the ice slightly and released some tension out of the situation. I thought all was good.

Anyway so the next few weeks were a bit better. This person was quieter around me, but wasn't seeking me out or being aggressive- were getting along fine on the same shifts. I tried building some commonalities with them but co-worker really isn't interested. This is the kind of person that, when they do bother making an effort to talk to you, talks about themselves but never asks you or anyone else how they are or anything about their lives.
I've never been interested in being friends with this co-worker just want a decent work environment where everyone gets along and respects each other.

Anyway, co-worker went away for a month on holidays, which I thought would be great so they could get some rest and mental refuge. I have gotten better at my job with a bit more experience, and enjoying it.

This co-worker has now gone back to being very quick to point out how wrong I am when I do something incorrectly- even when these things are rather trivial. eg; they wouldn't point small things out like this to other co-workers, but will jump all over it if it was me and also do it aggressively, negatively. Like with a real scowl or angry expression so others can see it.
I also have a feeling they're talking shit about me to other co-workers.
So yeah, my mistakes were at times, real mistakes. Nothing serious, just part of the learning curve of every job.

My question is, should I confront this person again and basically tell them to politely Mod: Foul Language off? This person has only been back from their holiday for 2 weeks, and I've worked maybe 4 or 5 shifts for a total of 20-25 hours with them, but they're back to the same crap from before- it's now got to the point where they won't say hi to me when they walk in. I say 'hey mate', they just look straight ahead and ignore me.

It honestly really is a case of having someone hate you for no real reason at all. I'm a pretty self ware, reasonable person and I've been a manager of 37 staff before. I'm not completely clueless and I've been told by multiple supervisors at work that I'm doing a good job and to just keep doing what I'm doing.
I understand that miserable people like to bring their problems into work and take it out on people who they think are easy targets- but I thought after telling them to back off the first time that the message was clear.
It's almost like this person is back for round 2 and I can't see any way for this to end without me going to my manager (who LOVES me) and telling them that this Mod: Foul Languauge is pretty much a workplace bully.
Problem is I don't want to be that guy at work who dobbed in a co-worker and should 'harden up' in a labourers industry like this.

Would love any advice. Should I talk to coworker again and be firm? Should I just go straight to management? Or should I just document their behaviour and build some evidence before I go to management?
I think my biggest fear about going to management is that my co-workers would label me as the new wimp who couldn't handle a few needles here and there because I really enjoy my job and my other co-workers.
But it just really sucks going to work and having to put up with this for 6 hours at a time and I think this person is having some serious mental/emotional issues of their own that are effecting me (and others) at work.
Thankyou for letting me get that off my chest!

Comments

  • +93

    TL;DR

  • +16

    Tell them to f### o##.

    /thread

    • Already did. Question is, do i just keep doing to do it again or just say bugger it and tell boss?

      • +6

        Usually do it in one big exploision. That usually stops them from doing it to you ever again.

      • Tell them to (profanity) off again.

      • Maybe you could buy yourself another couple of weeks by getting him to read your post ;-)

        Please take that as a joke. I know these situations can get stressful. To me it sounds like you're handling it fine except for the overthinking. This guy's issues don't need to be yours. Just tell him to back off as often as needed, and don't be subtle about it or let it slide at all. If that keeps him from bothering you, great. If he continues to do it so often it's a problem then involve your boss.

    • +2

      Is that sarcastic? Am I being too sensitive?

        • +23

          This person is actively targeting me at work, pointing out literally every single thing I do that isn't perfect. They've already apologised for it and said it's their fault.

          4 weeks later, they're back from holidays and gone back to being doing the same shit.

          Just because your family is dying of cancer doesn't mean you can take out that emotional baggage on people at work every day.
          It's Bull shizz.

            • +1

              @qwerty: Ok thanks for your input, ciao.

          • +5

            @[Deactivated]:

            Just because your family is dying of cancer doesn't mean you can take out that emotional baggage on people at work every day.

            Exactly this. Life is tough for everyone, it's no excuse to be an (profanity) to unrelated people.
            I've had someone use the same excuse a few years ago, to which I asserted "that's not my problem! I don't want to hear about it again".

            If telling this piece of shit to (profanity) off doesn't work, go to the manager as you mentioned in your OP.

    • +1

      Downvote for being a lazy troll

      • -5

        Pointing out he should have some compassion for a guy dealing with a bad situation and not let something as trivial as a coworker telling you to slow down or not saying hi back because he might not have heard or have been day dreaming = trolling .

  • +49

    That sounds like a pretty frustrating situation. When he starts up again, I would tell him firmly that if he has a problem with what you're doing, please report it to the manager because you have no interest in hearing anything from him. And just repeat the same thing every time he says anything like that and hopefully he will give up again.

    • +3

      This!, follow this advise. Don't take matters into your own hand. Just take notes for each instances and finally involve a manager and this piece of shit will know thing gets real.

    • This is the correct answer

  • +13

    Next time you are in the Lunch room and they stir their coffee clockwise, tell them
    they are breaking natural laws and you will pray for their soul.

  • +21

    Try avoiding having moments like these…

    You could say I'm overqualified because it's a physical labour job without any education requirements, and it's minimum wage but with great overtime and penalty rates. I've got a uni degree- but…

    I now realize co-worker was probably upset that I was getting more done in the same amount of time, and didn't like it

    I'm a pretty self ware, reasonable person and I've been a manager of 37 staff before…

    Your entire post reads like a very condescending person who feels the need to still have everyone like you.

    • +3

      That's fair enough, and it's hard to communicate every detail without going 10 pages deep.

      I think there's a difference between being condescending to coworkers at work (which I'm definitely not) and describing the overall situation. Like perhaps this coworker feels threatened somehow?
      I mean I get along with everyone really well. Been invited to drinks and been invited over for dinner by other co workers etc.
      So I'm probably not too much of a pompous (profanity) as I've made it sound here.
      Also, you don't think it's pretty shit to not say hi to a co worker who says hi?

      Not saying we have to be best mates,
      But if we're gonna work together for 6 hours straight, ackowledgement or some level of at least appearing to show basic respect would be the decent thing to do?

      • +6

        It's laborious work and unlike some other jobs where there is a good mix of activity, you're describing something someone may be hating.

        Maybe it has nothing to do with you. You can't be everyone's friend.

        You don't need 10 pages to describe your situation. Here's a TLDR version -

        Coworker, who started 8 months earlier, at entry level labourer job is ignoring me at work. It started out as constant unsolicited and unnecessary correction of my work style. This person has apologized and the issue has reoccurred in cycles. This person now ignores me.

        • I understand the post was long, but I made 2 points that you missed in your assessment of my 'arrogance'.
          1) stated that the person doesn't just ignore me, they still actively seek me out and target me, after they've been told to (profanity) off. They won't say hello, but they'll gladly come and have a go at me for something trivial.
          2) I said I don't want to be this person's friend. They don't have to like me. I don't like them. I would however, like to be able to come to work and not be harassed.

          My issue is that going to management creates other drama/complications.
          So I was seeking advice as work place bullying is a common issue and I'm sure other OzBer's have been through similar stuff.

          • +6

            @[Deactivated]: Mate you've missed tshows point. Being a manager of 37 people is completely irrelevant to the subject at hand. You've given the impression that you believe you are uncritisable and perhaps subsconsciously thats how you are approach things with your coworker.

            • +3

              @SpotTheOzzie: It's not irrelevant, it's giving background information as to why I'm not completely oblivious to something I may be doing to piss this person off. I've had to handle these situations before in a smaller manner and understand that sometimes, coworkers can be so useless that it's really hard to not say anything.

              There's a difference between being a moron who gets everything wrong and gets justified polite help or constructive criticism from a superior or even co worker.

              Being targeted and harassed is a different kettle of fish.

      • "That's fair enough, and it's hard to communicate every detail without going 10 pages deep."

        1 page was enough mate….

        • +3

          Then bugger off and don't read it. There was a warning in the first sentence.

    • +1

      Agree, and now OP comes to OZBArgain to get even more sympathy for himself.
      You have a UNI degree, and managed 37 staff before. Are you sure you like your job? I think it's you that is the frustrated in their job, you are probably expecting a quick career, and blame the other poor soul, who has the misfortune to have to work with you, for not being promoted. You should leave the 'unqualified' jobs for the 'unqualified' employees.
      I think your story stinks of BS and you are the guy who is harassing the other one. He comes back from holiday, and you jump on him straight away.
      Other guy is already down for what's happening in his family, he is working hard, in time, and stays longer, and you are trying to make his life a mess, and get him out of a job. I know it's dog eats dog out there, but you don't have my sympathy.

    • +1

      Disagree. It would be condescending if they were actually talking down the job and expressing disdain for being there. Outside of a few points, the post mostly seems happy with the work and other coworkers.

      To me it seems like maybe they just want to explain that they aren't an oblivious moron, and they think their work background is evidence supporting that theory. Otherwise half the comments would be "you're probably a socially inept noob who doesn't have work experience" and "welcome to the real world".
      And then they'd have to explain why exactly this isn't their first time out of mum's house anyway.

      But it's a tricky thing to tell people that you aren't an idiot because explaining why that should be the case can be taken as an indication of attitude, as you have done. It might not really be necessary, and it doesn't help that they used the word "over-qualified" or mentioned the number of people they managed, and I understand why these could be taken as signs of attitude.

      Still, I'd give benefit of the doubt, because I can also see them as not entirely superfluous details that are intended to convey something quite different to what you've received. And if they really had an attitude problem at work their post would be about how "all of my coworkers are mean to me for no reason" and not isolated to the one person.

  • +7

    You need to learn how to stop being too agreeable and to stand up for yourself and to 'bare your teeth'.

    Have a look at this short extract from a Jordan Peterson lecture & see if it helps:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqM1EUWI-HE

    • +2

      This actually works but can also backfire on occasions.

    • Thanks for the advice.
      I've already told this person to back off-which seemed to fix the problem for a while.
      But it's started up again, and slowly escalating.

      You're right, I'm going to tell them to back off again, but with even more conviction.
      I think most bullies aren't used to having people fire back at them.

      I was just hoping they'd piss off after my first warning.
      Some people are just so miserable they can't help taking it out on others.

      • +1

        When someone has a default of perceiving politeness for the potential for weakness, they are going to revert back to their default behaviour to test the waters again, after you have shown to stand your ground. IF you are not consistent, they may again see it as weakness and continue to play the same game of one-upmanship as prior. So consistently respond in a way that shows you are not an easy touch and they will eventually leave you alone (and probably move on to someone that is). It is just like school yard bullying, no different, but that it is no longer in school and those involved are no longer children.

    • Peterson is so well spoken lol. thanks for the motivation.

  • +4

    Ask your perfect co-worker if they are opposed to being cloned so they can do
    your job and you can go to the Pub.

  • -4

    You write you know what you are doing but also admit to making mistakes and a coworker telling you to not do so many tasks at once is considered bullying

    Plus hes been in the position 3X as long as you

    • Yeah I thought that aswell but the guys just a coworker not a manager and has no right to tell him off or get angry at him like that.

  • +9

    Some people are petty and define their miserable existance on the work they do and how well they perceive they are at it.
    In reality they are just another cog in the wheel and the world doesn't stop turning when they aren't there.
    Sounds like he is threatened by your presence, so there is nothing you can do to help people like this. They eventually build up the problem in their minds and boil over.
    Best thing you can do is tell your manager he has a problem with you and your not interested in snitching but pre warning him of any incidents brought on by his behaviour.
    After all your both preforming the same role so it's not like he's a supervisor. Just a little minded pleb. Don't let it affect you day.

    • Thanks for sharing. I reckon I'm going to tell this person to piss off again. (Politely, calmly) and depending on how they react, I'll warn the boss as you say.

      This person is a single, 45 year old misery guys who's mission is to make sure no one else is happy or doing the job at work.

      Hardest part isn't confronting the bully, it's tossing up when to go to and what to say to management.

      • +12

        remain calm it will sh*t him off more

      • -3

        This person is a single, 45 year old misery guys

        Wow, and you are what? A 24 Year old Mr. Perfect. I think you are an arrogant, entitled, selfish little prick who has been kicked from his previous job, and now making up this story, to feel empowered and important. Leave the hard working, in their 40ties alone and get a life somewhere else, maybe as insurance or car sales guy.

    • +2

      Ignore every other comment except for this guy. You are in a very simple environment and trying to look at the situation in depths that these people wont even understand. Your co-worker is not your superior, you do you.

  • +2

    it was their personal situation at home, and that a close family member is dying of cancer.

    Could never understand this. We get it. You have problems at home. Last I checked we all do. No reason to take that baggage to work and taking it out on your coworkers.

    Not saying be an insensitive prick about said coworker but seriously if it's getting too much for you personally seek help. Talk to hr instead on taking it out on your unsuspecting coworkers who just want to get on with their work day.

    Yes I have come across this before.

  • +11

    From reading your post, you do seem very self-aware, well-reasoned and have made attempts at differing strategies in an effort to work around the issues of your co-worker. Maybe there is some jealousy about your life that makes your co-worker resentful. I had a co-worker once who would have so much satisfaction from seeing people miserable that you had to make up stories of how bad your week had been or he would get jealous and even scratched a workers car who dared to eat too much of their birthday cake at work.

    I think setting up walls is something you have to do. Call out the behavior each time, don't let your guard down, but don't go on the attack or get emotional, just speak diplomatically, calmly, EVERY time. When they bring up the first excuse as to their behavior, whatever it is, tell them that is their one and only free pass but that't it, no more and that you're both here to get your paycheck and pay the bills.

    OP, you are a new worker and seem to know how to work with people, so no wonder you have been teamed with a person who seems the hardest to get along with. Your main aim is to be happy enough at work to support your family, so TLDR:

    1) Keep calm
    2) Keep a log book
    3) In case of co-worker jealousy, keep that to a minimum with your own stories of woe
    4) Mirro your co-worker and talk about him, he loves it… But don't try and fix issues, emphasise
    5) If they hate you, direct the hate at the job as the common enemy
    6) Never talk negatively about them except to management

    Good luck!

    • +8

      even scratched a workers car who dared to eat too much of their birthday cake at work.

      Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. 🤣

    • +2

      ^^^ This. Follow all mwalks & you wont get it wrong.

    • +1

      Thanks heaps for the advice/support.
      Asking them to back off again, whilst keeping cool and making sure there is a record of events is the plan.

      Cheers mate!

  • +7

    sounds like my wife telling me how to stack a dishwasher, like there exists some international regulation on how to do it.

    Does this bloke have any seniority over you, if not tell your boss, thats why you have one, but i wouldnt call that bullying, they are just trying to help but maybe not doing so the right way. Where is your boss in all of this?

    The issues at home stuff isn't much of an excuse, thats just called lack of maturity, you can be pissed off at the world, but its life, and it sucks alot…

    your boss ultiamtly needs to make the decision on how you should do the work, and if any changes need making.

    • +1

      sounds like my wife telling me how to stack a dishwasher, like there exists some international regulation on how to do it.

      I'm sure you broke a United Nations convention on how to stack dishes in a dishwasher thereby causing mass cringing and outrage to the wives of the world. And as such you will have to be extradited to the Hague to face criminal charges.

      /s

      • Stacking the fridge is an issue, my wife is telling me how to stack the fridge, but there is no right or wrong in stacking the fridge, as long as everything is in the fridge and the eggs are not falling out when opening the door. I tried to ( politely and calmly ) tell her that. Even when she came from out holidays, she kept on stacking the fridge in the wrong way, not the way I do. But I have a master in science, and have been stacking fridges faster and better than her, and she still tells me how to stack fridges. Her dog ( I dont like dogs ) has serious health issue, and I think that's why she is telling me how to stack the fridge.
        I even told my kids how to stack the fridge and they love me, and agree with me on how we stack the fridge. I am now taking notes every time my wife is telling me that I do a mistake, and I might take it up with her parents. If she does not stop harassing me while I stack the fridge, I'll get her fired.

    • +3

      So you're one of those people that stacks the dishwasher front to back.

      Brute.

      • +1

        i have no consistent method, it just happens

        • +1

          You absolute animal

        • +3

          You're the reason I have an internet curfew.

    • Lol - "you can have something done for you, or you can have something done the way you would do it, but not both babe"

      Or with a wry smile every time she complains "yeah you do it so well, can you show me how you do it again, I forget".

      Then, duck.

  • +1

    not everyone is going to be your friend, not everyone gets along, sometimes you gotta let things go, and live your life. Maybe they have their own personal/psychological problems, its not for you to fix them.

    • +1

      "If you manage to piss off only 50% of the people you are doing a great job" [ My brother ]

  • +3

    There are conflict resolution skills, where you say something like I feel like I am being picked on when I am being criticised. Rather than when You pick on me and you criticse me. Look up basic conflict resolution skills

    • Hello Pam,
      I agree these softer conflict resolution skills have their place when dealing with ordinary people, and should form part of the toolkit. But when dealing with a bully or sociopath, these techniques may not work. Sometimes, you just have to up the stakes on them, to the point it is no longer worthwhile for them to continue the behaviour. That is the only language they understand, unfortunately.

      • These are profressional skills written by experts and some are designed for dealing with bullies and the like

  • +3

    should I confront this person again and basically tell them to politely (profanity) off?

    I would. Politely. Tell them that is the last non-professional interaction your are interested in with them and to tell the boss if there is a problem.

  • +8

    If you're confident you're doing a great job, and confident your manager thinks you are, then you need to do the following:

    1. Never approach or speak to the other person. Ignore they exist. They are getting some sort of mental need satisfied by taking out their anger on you. Ignoring them doesn't allow them to satisfy it. Ignoring they exist also helps you, as the entire situation is causing you stress. Put them out of your mind.
    2. If they approach you or speak to you, respond with "Thanks". Every single time. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't be sarcastic or aggressive. Be cool and calm. Go back to ignoring they exist. Document everything.
    3. Eventually the above will probably infuriate them. If that happens, tell them "Take it up with the manager". Nothing more, nothing less. If they persist, if they want to discuss it further, just keep repeating "Take it up with the manager". Once again it is important that you remain cool and calm. They may try to aggravate and make you hostile. Don't fall for it.

    Likely outcome is:
    1. They'll leave you alone. Whatever mental need of theirs that was previously satisfied by having a crack at you will no longer be satisfied; or
    2. They'll speak the the manager. Manager will sort them out. If the manager speaks to you about it, keep it short and simple. Other employee has been aggressive and hostile, you don't wish to speak to the other employee and just want to focus on your work.

    • +6

      Thanks

    • "Ignore they exist"

      Righto mate…

    • +1

      Thanks for the advice, really appreciate the ideas. The more I read from experienced people here is that this person is going to eventually dig their own grave.
      I don't need to push them other than politely telling them to stop again. They'll do the rest of the work for me.

  • +7

    In your case, you have already tried to be friendly, but he ignores you. So ignore him back.
    If he tells you how to do your job, if it has merit, adopt it, if there is no merit, ignore it.
    If he is aggressive, tell him firmly to tone it down.

    And you don’t complain to management, wait for him to do so.

    Speaking from experience here, a somewhat similar situation to yours. Had this co-worker who was rude, nasty and aggressive. After this went on for a bit, I totally ignored him and became somewhat uncooperative. Was hoping he would complain to management (I wasn’t going to do so). Sure enough, he did.

    When the director had a meeting with us about this, and asked if what he said was true, I said yes, I did it on purpose. Then I recounted his behaviour, and why I behaved the way I did. I had a track record of being a good co-worker to others, and there were witnesses to his behaviour, so I was not afraid of any smears he might throw.

    But I told the director I knew this was not optimal for a good working environment, it was only out of necessity due to his behaviour.
    I was willing to start afresh and pretend none of this ever happened. Director asked us to shake hands for a new beginning. I gladly did it, and then even brought him down for drinks.

    The funny thing was a few days later he resigned. Had he not, I would not have held a grudge. As long as he behaved civilly or friendly, I would have done the same.

    The most important thing is you must be tough mentally, and not let him get to you.

    • Great attitude. As I said above in another reply, this person is going to dig their own grave eventually.
      I really enjoy my job and can't let this person get under my skin.
      Just gotta keep in mind this person is miserable and that's her problem, not mine.

      • +3

        Her? I wouldn't have picked that

        • Not surprised. A guy is assumed as a calculated guess because the job is physical labour - but bullies come in all race, gender, age, class, etc.

      • +2

        this person is going to dig their own grave eventually.

        Bullies always dig their own grave – even if it may not be obvious to the naked eye. Strong people don’t see the need to bully others, only weak people become bullies because they feel inadequate and desperate to yield some power. In most cases, they are already living a mental hell on earth.

        So all you have to do is not overreact and handle your own responses appropriately. But more importantly, focus on the important things, and create your own heaven on earth.

        gotta look after my 11 month old son 2 days a week and my wife makes very good money in her job as a part time employee

        You are in fact in a very enviable and blessed position. To be able to spend more time with your baby and watch him grow, especially in the adorable phase of his life. It sounds like a great work-life balance you and your wife have been able to achieve. On top of that, you also enjoy this job (bar this issue you mention). This alone should give you the proper perspective, to not let this get under your skin so much. Someone can only affect you if you cede the person power. If you don’t, the person has no power over you.

  • +3

    OP, he feels threatened by you. Been there , done that. Trying to befriend my bully didn't work for me, neither did having a chat with him regarding the situation. I would also often go out of my way to acknowledge his work ethics and congratulate him on his successes.It was all in vain.

    I later found out that he had taken credit for some of my work and sabotaged others.It all came to a head after a business do where he got all worked up and threw a punch at me. I swerved out of his way, he missed and, aided by the couple of glasses of wine he had drowned, fell flat on his face. He called HR and reported me for assault. He played the victim so well and had the bloody nose "to prove it" whereas I was unscathed. Luckily, there was a restaurant full of witnesses and camera footage of the incident.

    If I was you, I would keep a diary of every incident that happens and bring it to HR's attention. Someday, it could come down to his word vs yours and trust me, it can be frustratingly hard to prove that you're the innocent victim and not the bully.

    • +1

      Wow, what a crazy bastard!
      Thanks for the advice mate and good on you for persevering.

  • should I confront this person again and basically tell them to politely (profanity) off?

    Hang on, we can say (profanity) without it getting censored?

    • +1

      Obviously not in the comments. Fvck.

    • F,uck like this?

  • +1

    Take it to your supervisor/ manager with you both there. And talk about what you think is happening. Best way to do it. Not only does it stop you from causing any friction on the job. It will show you're serious about what is happening. Best advice I can give.

  • +1

    Is your grandma or grandpa dead?
    I mean if they are dead, use them as a excuse and make up a cancer story just like his and play the 'I am in the same boat shit's and see how he reacts. Does he show sympathy or??

    I am sure your deceased granny won't mind and would love to help u out

    • +1

      I like this idea but they will probably figure it out op will get burnt

    • This makes me laugh and quite funny!

  • If "family member has cancer" thing is true, you could bring in to the conversation every time you have a negative interaction with this person. It could be good (for them to talk it out) or it may bother them…in which case they may learn to leave you alone.

  • +4

    +1 to myself for reading the whole post.

    Politely tell him to F off.

    Also surprised bikies haven't been mentioned yet.

  • +1

    You sound like my partner having this same exact problem she was a manager who had a team that everyone got along great etc, she changed profession and now works as a AIN for a hospital in a group of 10-15 theres this one guy who actively takes it upon himself to try and be the unecessary voice of the group and will pull up people tell them their opinion/advive then be friends again then talk shit behind everyone's backs. My partner did take this character to heart and said the same thing when being a manager, it took her about six months to stand up for herself and get some thick skin but he still continues 🙄🤦‍♂️

  • +2

    Have a read of the download available on this page, it describes what is considered bullying in the workplace https://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/doc/dealing-workplace-b…
    Your employer will also have a bullying and harassment policy you can refer to.
    If you are in a union, they will have information and advice available.

    It sounds like there is repetitive unnecessary criticism or your work which constitutes bullying.
    Youve already spoken to the guy about it but I think you need to bring it up again and without using the words bullying and harassment, tell him you feel that he is repeatedly singling you out and necessarily criticising your work and you want him to stop doing it.
    if hes smart he will recognise that terminology and that you are accusing him of being a bully and taking the first step before escalation, without you actually spelling it out.
    Its important that you tell him to stop doing it, however dont threaten any consequences.

    Tell him if he has a problem with your work, he needs to take that to your superior.

    Keep saying hello to him and treat him like you would treat anyone else, even when he ignores you.
    If things escalate, dont provide him with any opportunity to say youve ignored him or that you say hello to everyone else except him.

    You can ask colleagues if they have experienced the same behaviour or if they have observed him behaving like that towards you. This might help you later if things dont change.

    Things like this can really take a toll on you psychologically and really break you. You cant let that happen, just remember he is the problem, you are doing nothing wrong and he is potentially a huge problem to your employer.

    If he doesnt stop it, then you really have to take it to management but its important that you do it in writing so that action is taken. Thats why you need to read the workplace policy so that you follow the correct procedure.

  • +2

    Have not read the other responses but as you have outlined you are doing fine. Document the behaviour and ignore him/her. Welcome to workplace relations. You guys are just different people.

    If it really bothers you, invite him/her and a few others for a drink after work and buy them a drink. Find out what they drink and put ricen in it.

  • +4

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