Price lowered from $3799 to $3499 on October 25th.
Unreal deal. This was an $8000 TV earlier in the year, and now it's less than half-price. The only other retailer I know still selling this TV is AddictedToAudio for $7699.
The 75" Z9F is a much better option than the 75" X9500G in my opinion thanks to significantly more dimming zones.
Vincent Teoh review (more in-depth analysis): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mlTElC2z2A
Not OLED, LCD screen 2018 model
No, it's LED/LCD.
$8,000 was probably overpriced considering it's an LCD, but it's arguably the best 4K LCD on the market today. Has hundreds of dimming zones and some seriously intense brightness which is great for HDR. One potential downside is the X-Wide Angle system, which basically trades contrast for better viewing angles. It's the same when comparing the 55+65" models of the X9500G to the 75-85" models; Sony probably figures viewing angles are more important at 75"+ TVs.
Read more here: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/z9f
No, it's LED/LCD.
there’s no new consumer TV not using LEDs for LCD backlight, so, “LED” qualification’s redundant.
OP, how would you rate the Z and X94/95 models of recent years?
Including Z9D, Z9F, X94D, X94E, X95G.
I can't speak too much for the Z9D, Z94D or X94E, as I didn't own them and they are not fresh in my memory.
The X95G is a great TV, but the 75" Z9F is basically a better version of it. They both have the X-Wide Angles system, which trades contrast for better viewing angles, but the Z9F has hundreds of dimming zones (conflicting information though), whereas the X95G has less than 100. This means less noticeable blooming, which is much better for both HDR and night time viewing. This is particularly noticeable when you watch these videos in full-screen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qt48qq5xI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3jrybLPuw8
The Z9F is also a brighter than the X95G, although both are already quite bright.
The X90F is the one that offers something a bit different to both. The 75" version of the X90F has no X-Wide Angle system, which means it has noticeably better contrast than both the Z9F and X95G, but worse viewing angles and brightness than both, and the same limited dimming zones of the X95G. Nevertheless, it's also a great option, but not as easily available, at least not brand new. Sony Ebay selling it refurbished.
It really depends on your use case.
The Z9D is by far the best over all. Unless you’re watching sport I’d take the X94E over the Z9F. If you are watching sport I’d put the X94E last because it has pretty poor motion response.
I found these dimming zone numbers:
X95G -60 https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?id=1551684183
Z9F - 104 https://www.avforums.com/review/sony-zf9-kd-65zf9-review.155…
X94E - 250 https://www.techradar.com/reviews/sony-bravia-x940e-xbr-75x9…
Z9D - 612 https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?id=1474868470
Do you know since which model Sony has introduced X-Wide Angle?
I think it was the Z9F, because last year's X9F series didn't have them at any size.
This year, the X9G series doesn't have it at 55-65", but does have it at 75-85". Sony clearly thinks viewing angles are more important for larger TVs.
It looks like everyone wants to avoid X-Wide Angle…
It's a matter of opinion.
Personally I prefer it, because my family watches from several different angles, and we never watch TV with the lights off at night. If you watch a lot of TV in a dark environment and sit directly in-front of the display, then yeah, you'd definitely prefer not to have the x-wide angle technology. Then again, at that point, you might as well get an OLED, which is by far the best display for a dark room.
Depend on whether they prefer better contrast, or better viewing angle.
I personally choose contrast over viewing angle. Also, I can see the contrast difference in darker type movie even in normal lit room (not on bright showroom floor). It remind me of IPS type LCD (although it is not that bad, compared to IPS).
I already planned to get 85" X95G, until I learn that it has X-Wide Angle :(
@ben1680: Yeah you're in a bit of a tough spot if you want LCD. Samsung is overpriced and over-dims, Sony 75"+ now have x-wide viewing angles and LG is IPS.
If you're ok with refurbished and 75", Sony Ebay has the 75" X900F for $2699. It isn't as bright as the X95G, but doesn't have the x-wide angle:
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SONY-KD75X9000F-75-X90F-LED-4K-U…
Revised numbers of their Dimming Zones:
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/af96d9cd…
75" X95G - 60
75" Z9F - 288 (https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/3…)
75" X94E - 256
75" Z9D - 858
75" X94D - 96 (https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/3…)
MMmmm…. Since posted here,so far just 2 purchases ??
Not everyone has a lazy $3500 (+) laying around to buy a new tv, including me. Otherwise I'd probably buy one. Time to upgrade to something bigger.
I have a 75 inch TV and it's great for watching something for 2 to 3 hours at a time no more. if you are planning to use it for 5 hours or more at a time it will burn your eyes off and will have eye strain alot more compared to a smaller TV
75 inch probably too big for your room. There's no other reason to explain your statement
No I have it on the living room and I sit far away. I like to do gaming sessions 8 to 10 hours at a time on a regular basis and I find it much easier on the eyes on a 55 inch compared to a huge 75 inch.
@cheapOjoe - Maybe your brightness is higher on the 75” model?
Unless your comparing a 55” and 75” of the same model and settings, there’s too many variables.
Yeah have no such issue. Would go larger if I could fit it. Would never go below a 75" screen now.
How often do you use your TV ? You might not use it as much as you think that's why you don't suffer from eye strain compared to smaller tvs
Very night for at least 3-4 hours.
You probably have a cheap, nasty 75” TV with the backlight, contrast and colour saturation set all wrong. Hence the eye strain.
I use a 55" TV for my gaming desktop at a desk and I don't get eye strain …
I'm trying to make sense of what you're saying, but it's not working.
If you're watching tv 10 hours+ every day I don't think it's the TV that's the problem
I'm just trying to share my experience to help out but a lot of people in ozbargain are jealous that they can not spend 10 + hours Infront of a 75 inch brand new tv I see. That's fine, minus my comments, try to talk down on me, I will just Lol because You are only making my point.
Don't know why you're getting negs. I have the X9300E which is still the brightest for 75-100% window and yes it does cause eye strain if watching it for hours on end. Even though I
love the brightness as you need it for HDR. Until these guys get a TV that has that amazing brightness they don't realise how much of a difference it actually makes. I have a friend that can't even watch it! He thinks it's way too bright.
Maybe lowered price because 8K models about to be released?
Olympics will be a showcase for UHD and 8K. Count on massive push and incentives by vendors.
My friend bought this TV for $5k a few months ago……apart from a high quality 4k bluray demo reel to show off the picture quality, he mainly uses it to watch 4GB downloaded movies. Face palm.
Hahaha it has good upscaling though apparently.
The reason why this has been up since last night and only 2 have sold is that it seems it's not as good as the Z9D. It has such few dimming zones and it blooms and floats black hardly master quality?
I think people are waiting for next year's more mature HDMI 2.1 sets with all the HDR spoils. Judging by the brightness of the Samsung QLED on a 65" set, it seems a 65" good management of blacks as well as good contrast whilst still being bright is better than a 75" with less of the former. If you wanted it I'd wait it'll fall in price if it's selling so poorly. The bargains we've been seeing on TV's are pretty good but I'm expecting better deals to come soon across the range.
Keep in mind the 75" version of the Z9F has more dimming zones compared to the 65" version.
Are high end Samsung QLED TVs any better than the high end Sony TVs?
No. Samsung TVs have darker blacks, but it comes at the cost of colour accuracy and crushed shadows. Samsung put a far stronger emphasis than Sony when it comes to keeping black level low on LCDs, presumably so their QLED TVs can compete with OLED (they refuse to buy the OLED tech from their Korean rivals LG). The problem is, while it minimizes blooming, it clearly alters the image, particularly the HDR highlights.
Taking that into account, for the price you could get a Q80R or a Q90R, you might as well just buy an OLED if deep blacks are particularly important for you.
Thanks for the info!
You also wont find Q90R at this price too for 75 or 82 inch
Yeah it overdims smaller highlights like stars or building lights, etc. So all that HDR goodness doesn't pop when needed if it's too small an area. Sony is the full raw picture but there can be more blooming for really bright objects on a black screen. Guess there's no winner, even OLED you won't get anywhere near the brightness of LCD so HDR lacks in a few areas. Hopefully in the next couple years we'll get the best of both worlds.
Outstanding peak brightness, pity about the abysmal contrast ratio.
Restocked again.
Darn, seems out of stock again.
And restocked again. Sony playing games here.
Last day for the 20% coupon though.
Is this OLED? What makes the "master series" so good that it was worth $8k earlier in the year?