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New model oled just released and i know alot of ozbargainers are waiting for this..
Thought to post a seperate deal for attention
B9 seems to be released just in time for black friday..
LG OLED65B9PTA 65" B9 OLED TV $2790 + Shipping @ Appliance Central eBay
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Pkrish955 on 20/11/2019 - 07:09 ebay.com.au (1443 clicks)
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My lounge room gets bright on sunny days will OLED do good? Or what other tech I cna get?
If it's sunny outside, you shouldn't be in your lounge room watching television.
Sometimes I like to stay in on 40 degree days.
But today is a fine day! Beautiful in Vicky dunno bout Tasman
When it's sunny outside, that's when I want to be in my lounge room watching television (with the blinds down of course). The sun hurts my cold dark heart.
its fine…. room brightness issue is overstated imho..
Not just brightness but what about glare and reflections? Cheers
My TV is directly opposite a wall of windows :(
That's the only set up, or put the TV on window side looking into sunshine 👎no no
i have a sunny af living room with windows in 3 directions..as much i wanted OLED i went for QLED Samsung 90r and its amazing…you will regret with oled and its reflections on the bright room. But 90r is bit pricy.
Confused with the comments on reflections and OLED being bad, the Q90R gets the same 9.4 rating for reflection handling, as the B9 on RTings and OLEDS take 8 out of the top 10 positions in this criteria. If you say the Q90R is awesome then the B9 should be ifentical in awesomness shouldnt it?
@Jaques Alot: You're correct to state that both TVs have the same excellent anti-reflective properites however the Q90R is 2.5x brighter than the B9 OLED.
@Jaques Alot: See them in person, it’s night and day. The LGs are quite reflective, the Sammy Q80R and Q90R and excellent.
Using the overly bright sales floor and to highlight the issue position yourself in a way that the fluros or other tvs are in a reflection, and the LG plus almost every other except Q80 & Q90 are almost mirror like. Those wonderful deep blacks always just show me on the screen as a reflection instead of the black. Q80/90R still show the blacks, not so inky, but tou don’t get distracted by reflections.
I wish LG or any OLED could have he same anti reflective ability of the Q90 & 90.
@snuke: Ok thanks Snuke, I will check them out like you suggest.
I currently have a light west facing, fully glassed side to the lounge, that gets some pretty bad LED reflections on current LG model I have. Was looking to pull the trigger on a new screen but must admit havent checked alot in the flesh yet. Thats why I was really interested in any personal experience vs the lab tests.
Always found these a bit of a crap shoot buying a tv from reviews anyway (well some things are constant) but thats kind of why they call it the panel lottery when you buy a new LED TV. Panel uniformity and bleeding can vary dramatically between one unit snd the next.
Was keen on LED to avoid their bad charateristics this time around but reflections is a biggie.
Heres hoping the Q90s gets some love on black Friday.Oh just read up some disturbing info about Samsung (all models even top end Q90, with constant brightness changes on sub-titled shows. Seems to relate to local dimming issue, when sub-titles appear. Hard to tell if it has been fixed with firmware update or not? Anyone sble to verify the brightness flicker/sub-title issue?
Cheers,
@Jaques Alot: Good to know re subtitles. I’m still waiting for HDMI 2.1 to be on AVRs before I do a full upgrade of TV and AVR at once, but I’ll keep that in mind. I don’t watch a tonne of things with subtitles, but enough for it to be a consideration.
Don't forget backlight bleed from QLED TVs at night and in dimly lit environments.
QLED is just a LCD with a an additional layer that focuses and helps filter led light back to true white.
In this situation, the Samsung QLED is better. QLED peak brightness of 2000 whereas LG C9 OLED peaks at 700 and the B9 at 500
Look at the QLED from Samsung. Much better in bright rooms then OLED
The real differences are:
- out of the box colour calibration
- the level of colour banding
- B9 has BFI features disabled (which may be a permanent thing as a solve for an issue related to near-black performance that was discovered in the 2018 models and carried over into the 2019 panels)
The C9 still has 60Hz BFI, but it lost 120Hz BFI (and granular BFI options) for the same reason. It's likely that 120Hz BFI will only become available for the 2020 panels, at which point we should see a more significant drop in 65" prices due to manufacturing shifts towards that panel size.
If you're someone who appreciates the benefits of BFI and has no issues with flicker - and can bear to wait another 10-12 months - next year might be for you. Likewise, if this price point is still too much, you should see next year's 65" models getting very close to the $2000 mark.
For everyone else, I would still lean towards the C9 for its motion handling and lack of colour banding, which will add a lot of detail, realism and richness to slow/still shots.
So is this meant to be better than the C9?
Definately not. C9 is little bit superior due to its better processing capabilities. C9 has Alpha 9 Gen2 (Top of their line) where as B9 has Alpha 7 Gen2 processor.As per reviews, its not that much of a difference in terms of IQ. Reviews suggest that B9 is just a bit brighter and bit more noisy than C9( has better processor). Otherwise they're same.
Got way too excited, thought this was the C9. A boy can dream.
Must… resist….
no OLED expert but at $2790 only $260 difference from the C9 at $3050 which is becoming a more regular price I wouldn't be touching the B9 at this price, you’re spending a major premium as it is for 65", now they have cheapened it & charging similar to the C9 avoid imo, wait for low $2ks or pay the small extra for the C9.. same goes with 55” model
I agree with your comment but I don't think it values a neg for the post, it's still cheaper than a C9 and might be good for someone, therefore the post is a still a deal :)
agree to disagree @canberran, point of my neg (nothing to do with OP) is people are spending big $$ for a OLED in reality can get top range led 4k 65" for around $1400 which majority would be more then happy with the picture quality, when your spending a premium close to $3k double what you need to you should be expecting the best specs, to see a cheaper version come out & only $260 difference from recent deals imo its a major avoid, some will take the number of likes the post is getting as its a good deal, I dont see how it is
some people won't see value in forking out several hundred dollars more.
The question is, is this the cheapest B9 around or is there a better product cheaper? if not then it doesn't warrant the neg imo.
I think the price change has more to do with the fact that the C9 is pretty similar to the B9 and was overpriced to begin with. The original price difference between the two models was not worth it as very little upgrade.
Agreed, when we start seeing the B9 for $500+ less than the C9 equivalent then it's worth weighing up.
That will never happen.
I mean it will.. the same thing happened with the B8/C8. I'm not downvoting the deal because it is a deal, just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense to buy over the C9 at current prices.
The only difference between the 2 is in the processor, which are practically identical in terms of specs (A9 has 3GB RAM vs 2GB of the A7), number of cores and clockspeed are the same. The panel and everything is identical. $260 is a 10% price difference. LG push a bunch of marketing fluff to sell you the latest and greatest and maybe if you freeze frame on both TV's you might see some difference, but 99.9% of people would not be able to distinguish between the 2. This is still a 65" OLED for sub $3K which is definitely a good price and does not warrant a neg on the post.
also the weight is different is it made with cheaper parts fair difference in weight & slight dimensions difference
Net Weight with Stand (kg)
C9 - 33.9kg
B9 - 26.2kgTV with Stand (WxHxD)
C9 - 1449mm x 862mm x 251mm
B9 - 1449mm x 869mm x 246mmIt's got a different stand. Weight without stand is the same.
@RogueWolf: It's just the stand.
https://www.lg.com/au/tvs/lg-OLED65B9PTA
65B9:
TV with Stand (WxHxD)
1449mm x 869mm x 246mm
TV without Stand (WxHxD)
1449mm x 830mm x 47mm
Net Weight with Stand (kg)
26.2kg
Net Weight without Stand (kg)
25.2kghttps://www.lg.com/au/tvs/lg-OLED65C9PTA
65C9:
TV with Stand (WxHxD)
1449mm x 862mm x 251mm
TV without Stand (WxHxD)
1449mm x 830mm x 47mm
Net Weight with Stand (kg)
33.9kg
Net Weight without Stand (kg)
25.2kgWithout the stand dimensions and weight are the same.
@Shaun Prawn: another thing to consider is when buying a tv most can be found (majority through eBay sales + coupon code) at 40%+ below the manufacturers RRP within 3-6 months after release, with the B9 being just released rrp $3639 at $2799 its 23% below rrp there is plenty of room to move down in coming months, if you go by the trend take 40% off RRP comes to $2200 which is the right price whether its specs difference is small or not its considered the budget model in the range & you should be paying lower, the RRP difference between b9 & c9 is $1950 difference so price that in when purchasing, as if you plan to resell to upgrade down the track that effects the resale, here is 12 examples of 2019 tv models at 40%+ below rrp
LG C9 65" RRP $5589 - recent price $3050 (45% below rrp)
Panasonic 65" GZ1000U RRP $5549 - recent price $2950 (46% below rrp)
LG 75" SM9400 RRP $5949 - recent price $2795 (50%+ below rrp)
Hisense R8 65" RRP $2999 - recent price $1196 (50%+ below rrp)
Samsung RU8000 65" RRP $2299 - recent price $1190 (45%+ below rrp)
Panasonic TH-65GX850A 65" RRP $2399 - recent price $1356 (40%+ below rrp)
Samsung 82" RU8000 RRP $4699 - recent price $2680 (40%+ below rrp)
Sony 75" Z9F RRP $7999 - recent price $2680 (50%+ below rrp)
Samsung Q60 RRP $2799 - recent price $1424 (45%+ below rrp)
Panasonic TH-65GX740A 65" RRP $2099 - recent price $1036 (50%+ below rrp)
LG C9 55" RRP $3549 - recent price $1712 (50% below rrp)
Panasonic 55" GZ1000U RRP $3299 - recent price $1700 (45+% below rrp)@RogueWolf: You are absolutely dreaming if you think the B9 65 inch OLED will drop to $2200. Maybe when the 10 series is released you might find some on clearance at close to that price. OLED panels are still very expensive to manufacture when compared to lcd, especially 65 inch panels which cost double the amount that it costs to produce a 55 inch panel.
@Shaun Prawn: as said above thats the 3-6 month trend on tv's 40%+ below rrp, the C9 has already come down to $3k from a $5589 rrp so not sure why you would be surprised to see the B9 come down to $2200's within the next 6 months from $3639 rrp, for now think the C9 deals will be a bit rare as they try push everyone to buy the B9, lets see in 3-6 months how low the B9 has gotten my bet $2200-$2400 range, will only take a sale of $3639 reduced to $3000 & then a 20% off eBay deal to take it to $2400
@RogueWolf: It won't drop that low because it is essentially the same TV as the C9 with a very slightly lower end processor and a different/heavier stand. The panel is where the majority of costs are associated, and both have the same panel. $2400 is more realistic. But I think it won't hit that price until the next series are announced or rolling out. Only time will tell.
@RogueWolf: Lol. Wow… You got me. I'm shocked. I honestly thought there was no chance it would drop so low that quickly. I feel like a dill.
You have my apology. And here are your flowers:
@RogueWolf: RogueWolf,
Just a FYI for you and others. A number of people have managed to get the 65" C9 for $2945 + delivery. Making a clear 3K with delivery. Under those circumstances given such a small difference people really need to take that into consideration.
Wow. Misinformed. You sound like a marketers dream.
I read on one of the Forums that Appliance Central sell Grey stock. Does anyone know if this is true or not?
I purchased my oled from them a couple years back, I have no idea if it was a grey import but. Nothing stood out that it was. I haven't had any issues with it at all, and the delivery and everything was fine.
I doubt it. Not many other country's TVs can pick up our channels.
From their website:
Item Condition
All products listed on our website are brand new Australian stock.
We DO NOT sell any factory seconds or refurbished products. We DO NOT carry any grey imported products.We are a genuine authorsied dealer, so all our products are ordered directly from the manufacturer in Australia.
They were selling the 55 C9 for less than this a few days ago but that deal has expired
Get a C9 unless bigger discount on B9
Will have to wait until the price gone down to like B8.
I think I got the sarcasm, others didn't….
What sarcasm?
If this was 2000, it would be an instant purchase.
get C9 with extra 200 bucks man. this B9 is not worth unless dropping more than $500.
Does anyone know if I get a Nvidia shield, would the processing difference matter? I am not sure if it goes Nvidia processing -> TV Output or if it is nvidia processing -> tv processing -> TV Output? Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated!
They both process, if you have an AVR in between, you may have that processing too.
My 7 year old TV finally went bang a day after the previous C9 deal expired a few days ago…. What are the chances we see the C9 on special again for black Friday? Or has that now been superceded by this set?
high chance another deal will come soon, just have to be patient or you can pay $3123 + delivery at video pro eBay using code PLEASE10
This is a great time for the tv to die imho… you're so lucky!!
Don't buy Panasonic… their tv's don't die.. but they stop support a few years old… so you're left with something that works forever but no apps work …
You're right.. I'm stuck with my 2012 plasma.. still works well but apps are not updated or supported by many. Plus got my tv from NZ when i moved and tv frequency doesn't match even after reset. Apparently its a known issues and Panasonic wouldn't do anything about it.. Not buying anymore Panasonic for these reasons..
I still have a 46" Samsung LCD non smart TV still working fine XD
I got a 2010s Viera 55" as well still good condition, but sad looking unfunctional apps.
Don't buy Panasonic… their tv's don't die.. but they stop support a few years old… so you're left with something that works forever but no apps work …
Damn straight!
I guess I'll wait a little longer then. Preferably looking at the 55" variant as I fear for my life if I fork out ~$3000 for a TV this close to Christmas :P
I did see the Panasonic for $1700 but reading through the comments the C9 is just as good but has a much better interface and a couple extra features the Panasonic is lacking so I thought I'd hold off until Black Friday for the C9 deal to make a return.
This or the 65" Samsung Q80R?
They're around the same pricepoint, but the Q80R is QLED and this isn't. That's what I've been told but I'm a newbie on the specs and mainly need it for netflix and gaming - if someone can advise. Thanks
Read above earlier comments.
Depends on usage area mainly.OLED > LCD/LED , not even close.
That’s fairly myopic without knowing the users needs and viewing situation.
LG b9/c9 etc. have HDMI 2.1
For gaming, HDMI 2.1 will be where it is at for the next few years. I intend to future proof my gaming TV by choosing a model with HDMI 2.1.
I do not believe that the Samsung Q80R has HDMI 2.1
Correct, Q80R doesn’t have HDMI 2.1, but it already supports FreeSync. Although its 4K VRR is only compatible up to 60Hz.
HDMI 2.1 is a must for me to feel comfortable about spending this amount of dollars and wanting it to be compatible as long as possible.
VRR & High frame rate are the 2 most important feature of HDMI 2.1 and is only good for gamers. I believe VRR is not something that Q80R support? Atleast 120fps… And with nvidea s/w update on LG it'll be dream for gamers. Thats as close the TV gets my o gaming monitor right now..
EARC is also good if you want to have a nice audio setup.
However, Reflections are a big prob with c9 though if you're considering for a bright room
@krish955: Like everything we’re talking about, the need for certain spec, features etc will vary. eARC is missing from the Samsung’s, and of what I just read is true, it won’t be coming via a firmware update. That may be a huge blow to many.
Personally, I run all my gear through an AVR, and the TV is really just a display panel for other inputs (Nvidia Shield, console etc…)
I haven’t watched standard broadcast TV in aeons, even then it was either via my DVR or HDHomeRun.Actually, that’s Samsung’s reasoning for not bringing eARC, they say it’s all streaming now. Don’t get that flawed logic.
How is the OS compared to Android TV?
Probably the best OS amongst all. Atleast for me.. Love the web OS n magic remote..
Can WebOS do Google Play Store?
I was planning on buying oled until I heard about the constant burn in issues people have after gaming.
Thank you for posting these links. Ill do some more research
Rtings have this as the best OLED of 2019 Fall
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-type/oled
Only issue from me is is HDR Peak Brightness at 7.0 versus 7.7 for the C9. Apart from that looks a fantastic OLED