Mentioned in the comments of this previous deal for the i9-9900K which is out of stock. Plenty of stock left for the KF.
For those who must get themselves an Intel i9 for the highest frame-rates in games this appears to be the cheapest way to get one, for everyone else there is Ryzen. Note that this KF version does not have Intel UHD 630 Integrated Graphics enabled.
They are going to take more than one generation to catch up. They dug their own hole.
pay a bit more for and get the 3900x, combine with gigabyte x570 motherboard you can also claim a 500gb ssd.
Why wait? Why not just get an AMD proccessor, intel isnt going to catch up anytime soon. AMD is way ahead, both in price per performance and power consumption compared to the 10th gen.
Their current architecture allows them to make CPU's with higher core count for much cheaper.
Then to add to that, intel processors are still sitting on 14nm (even 10th gen) while the amd stuff are 7nm/10nm
What would I need to change if I have an existing build.
Also, any con's to AMD?
what is your existing build ?
@jaygee: You'd need a different CPU and motherboard.
I know 1st gen ryzen cpu's had compatibility problems with ram, I don't think it'll be an issue here. But if it is, you might have to lower the speed to 3000mhz or something.
Is that an x61 or x62 liquid cooler? I recently upgraded from a 7 year old intel processor and had the x61 kraken too. If it's the x62 then the AM4 bracket might not come with the cooler so you'll have to submit a claim to nzxt and get the AM4 bracket, I think it's free.
if you have the x61 then it is too old to come with one. You'll have to buy one of these AM4 brackets like I did
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/corsair-amd-socket-am4-rete…
Most of the major brands use the same asetek closed liquid cooler and just rebrand it, so this will fit onto the the nzxt kraken even though it's for corsair. Nzxt also sells one too, but I haven't come across one here in Australia when I was looking for it ~2 months ago. If you stick with intel, you won't need to buy anything extra for the cooler.
Downside is probably gaming performance. For the absolutely high end (and by extension future GPU's), a highly clocked i9-9900k is still ahead of what AMD has to offer atm. But they're pretty damn close this gen
@Butt Scratcher: Great thanks, saw a 3900X deal and got that! AMD for the first time in like 8 years.
@jaygee: Sweet! I'm sure your partner will really appreciate that, I mean that's like 3 times the multi-core performance
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-3900X-vs-In…
Have you made up your mind on the motherboard? Unfortunately they're a bit on the pricey side atm, with no B550 motherboards out yet.
@Butt Scratcher: Probably looking at the ASUS ROG Strix X570-F, seems to tick all the right boxes!
Let me know if you think otherwise :)
@jaygee: ohh well, you still need new motherboard for this cpu anyway
so you can consider either 3900x or this , with both requiring new motherboard
if you're using gpu for rendering , then both design & simulation performance will be about the same on either cpu, with 9900kf edging a little better
so if you wait intel 10th gen desktop , might turn around the table considering the IPC increase on intel 10th gen laptop cpu is a good bump over last gen
but if you're using cpu for rendering, then 3900x is the way to go , as intel 10th gen won't have 12 cores 24 threads cpu for $700
@dcep: Likely no real IPC improvement coming with desktop 10th gen. Ice Lake and 10nm seem like they're destined for premium laptops only for the moment. 14nm Comet Lake is already filling the gaps on mobile, and looks likely to be what comes to desktops early next year.
Latest rumours suggest Comet Lake is in line for the "10th gen" desktop series from Intel. More 14nm Skylake, in other words. Word is they'll offer up to 10 cores, but no word on platform (likely new, if Intel sticks to their usual cadence; the 300 series has served its two generations. I think LGA1200 is supposed to be the new socket.) or what the lower end SKUs will be. I'm personally hoping for hyperthreading enabled across the stack but maybe I'm being too optimistic.
After that is supposedly Rocket Lake, meaning Ice Lake and Tiger Lake (and seemingly early 10nm as a whole) would be skipping the desktop market. Rumour is only 8 cores at the high end his time, which could signify a product positioning change from Intel given AMD will most likely be forging ahead with Zen 4 and Ryzen 5000 by this point. Conflicting reports on what Rocket Lake actually is though, there was some early suggestion it might be a Cove architecture (Sunny Cove or Willow Cove) backported to 14nm, which would be fantastic as we'd finally see some IPC improvement from Intel, even if it's not competitive with the Ryzen stack on cores. However, the latest rumour suggests it could be more Skylake yet again, but with slightly better memory support and Tiger Lake's Gen12 graphics backported instead.
Time will tell, but the signs point towards Intel deprioritising the desktop market over the next couple of years due to the difficulty they're having with 10nm, which would be a damn shame.
I'm a huge fan of what AMD has done with Zen and I hope they continue to find success, but we need both AMD and Intel keeping each other on their toes. We've already seen what a lack of competition causes; complacency. That's how we end up with sub 10% year on year, gen on gen improvements.
Time will tell, but the signs point towards Intel deprioritising the desktop market over the next couple of years due to the difficulty they're having with 10nm, which would be a damn shame.
I'm a huge fan of what AMD has done with Zen and I hope they continue to find success, but we need both AMD and Intel keeping each other on their toes. We've already seen what a lack of competition causes; complacency. That's how we end up with sub 10% year on year, gen on gen improvements.
I have no sympathy for intel if that's the case to be honest.
Even if intel can't catch up within the next 10 years, they'll be fine. Intel is over 50 times larger and made over ~70 times more money than AMD last year (according to wiki). They'll figure something out, they've got the money and deeply rooted relationships with OEM manufacturers.
Next year they'll also enter the GPU market and will probably kick out Nvidia and AMD GPU's from OEM systems gradually. They've also got a history of using unscrupulous means of competing, with the amount of cash they have I wouldn't be too surprised if this was true:
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-reserved-3-billion-i…
Just wanted to update in the interest of not spreading misinformation, SharkBay updated their report on Rocket Lake and said they made some mistakes copying the spec - it is indeed Willow Cove backported to 14nm, with full AVX-512 support, no integrated Thunderbolt controller, and a weaker iGPU than what Tiger Lake 10nm will support.
Ultimately I think this is nothing but a net positive. RKL-S is likely slated for either late 2020 or H1 2021, at which point it will be competing with Ryzen 4000 (Zen 3) in the desktop market. Ryzen 5000 will likely be later in 2021. For the high core count stuff, AMD will still reign supreme. For 8C and below, it could be more competitive.
My guess: RKL-S won't clock as high as current Skylake designs, even on 14nm, and it'll be a bit of a power pig. ~30% IPC improvement over Skylake doesn't come for free, and backporting that design to 14nm means something has to be cut down to keep it within a reasonable size and power envelope. That said, any step forward is worthwhile and even if it's not the 10nm process we're hoping for, it's at least something.
Imagine buying intel for productivity and rendering workflows
Does anyone know if these qualify for the AMD Raise the Game promotion?
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07SXMZLPJ/ref=ox_sc_ac…
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07WXWB7F5/ref=ox_sc_ac…
Thanks
3 times the price of a 6 core i5… seems good value.
Most CPUs in Intel's lineup make little sense to buy when Ryzen 3000 is so good (most of the i5s and i7s are awful value right now as they compete directly with the R5s and R7s). Also the Ryzen 2000 series (which are also pretty good) have been sold at super low prices over the past few months.
The i9 still do have an advantage for those looking to get the absolute highest frame-rates for high refresh monitors in gaming but the R9-3900X gives you 4 more cores for only $61 more at the moment and is pretty good at gaming as well.
Nevertheless top of the line intel CPUs of each socket generation seem to rarely drop in price much for whatever reason (just look at what everybody wants for an 4C/8T i7-7700 CPU on ebay or anywhere else). Maybe they are targeting people who don't know that a motherboard replacement and a Ryzen chip would be way better value than swapping their i5-6X00/7X00 for an i7-7700K? I really can't understand it…
Some people, myself included, just don't like AMD. I've had Intels only for 25 years, not about to switch anytime soon.
I'm seriously considering this - my gf uses my PC a lot of her 3dsmax and Maya renderings or designs - so this will really help speed things up. I only wonder if I should wait for the 10th gen of cpu's as AMD is really pushing Intel, and I get the feeling they want to come up with something good.