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This is by far the cheapest price for this camera. Combine it with the RF 35mm and you have a perfect budget setup with great image quality.

Yes it doesn't have great dynamic range but it has great portability, usability, menu system and most importantly full frame.

You can also get the one with the EF adapter for $1142

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  • chillipaste on 30/12/2019 - 19:59
    +3

    How does one determine dynamic range of a camera? Sorry if the question sounded noob.

    • dm01 on 30/12/2019 - 20:15
      +1

      It's already been done for you at Photons to Photos

      EDIT: Elsewhere on the site, the process for determining the PDR is explained.

      • diamondd on 30/12/2019 - 20:37
        +1

        wow, it barely performs any better than my 10 year old D700 at "normal" ISOs…

        people have been talking about Canon's lagging in the sensor department for years now, but that performance is surprisingly poor considering the completion who are pulling two and a half stops more at ~100 ISO - that's huge if you're out shooting landscapes or similar.

        this is cheaper than the Nikon and Sony alternatives and probably just as good in a lot of situations, but still.

        • dm01 on 30/12/2019 - 22:02

          I personally think dynamic range is given far too much weight as a sensor metric - many seem to treat it as the be-all and end-all of sensor performance, yet it's rarely the limiting factor in an image that some make it out to be.

          I switched from Nikon to Canon a few years back now, conscious of the DR "hit" I'd be taking, yet it's never really been an issue for me, and I shoot a lot of landscapes. Bracketing exposures and grad filters are both ways to overcome extreme DR in a landscape scene.

          I much prefer Canon's colour rendering to Nikon's, and Canon's dual-pixel AF is fantastic too, so I think it's a little inaccurate to describe Canon sensors as "poor" - they've focussed on other aspects of sensor performance and produced excellent results in those areas.

          At the end of the day, I've never once had someone look at an image of mine and make a comment about limited dynamic range.

          • Buy2Much on 30/12/2019 - 22:58

            @dm01: Agree. Some people are too focused (pardon the pun) on dynamic range and DXO mark. There's a whole of other factors too numerous to describe in one paragraph which help one takes good photos. An example of which is usability which Canon excels (ergonomics, easy to navigate interfaces and a fully functional touch screen). One does not want to lose time figuring how to change settings while the moment go past…

          • syousef on 30/12/2019 - 23:30
            +3

            @dm01: What are you talking about?

            DR determines how much detail you can pull out of the brightest and darkest parts of the image. Unless you never post process (and in that case you may as well be taking snapshots in JPG) you WILL notice a difference in a sensor with good vs bad DR.

            And the people who endlessly debate about colour rendering are again those who don't bother to post process and don't know how to aet up in camera profiles for rendering those colours (Nikon Picture Controls and Canon Picture Styles). You won't match another manufacturer's rendering perfectly but there is plenty of opportunity to tune the colours to any taste - from natural to Disney colours.

            • dm01 on 31/12/2019 - 00:27
              +1

              @syousef:

              DR determines how much detail you can pull out of the brightest and darkest parts of the image.

              Only if your subject dynamic range exceeds that which the sensor can capture.

              Unless you never post process (and in that case you may as well be taking snapshots in JPG) you WILL notice a difference in a sensor with good vs bad DR.

              You'll only notice a difference in certain extreme shooting conditions, and those differences aren't all that great anyway.

              And the people who endlessly debate about colour rendering are again those who don't bother to post process

              I've got a colour-managed workflow, shoot raw, and pp all images…and I prefer Canon's colour-rendering, so I'll just disregard your misplaced little sledge there.

              • syousef on 31/12/2019 - 03:41

                @dm01:

                You'll only notice a difference in certain extreme shooting conditions, and those differences are't all that great anyway.

                Only any time you have a any blown highlight such as a specular highlight, or any time your shadows are dark enough to be black. It doesn't require extreme conditions at all. Just go anywhere where there is water and sunlight and you get those "extreme conditions" you're talking about.

                I've got a colour-managed workflow, shoot raw, and pp all images…and I prefer Canon's colour-rendering, so I'll just disregard your misplaced little sledge there.

                How you can have a RAW workflow and have never noticed a blown highlight is beyond me. I'm not sledging at all. I genuinely don't understand how that's possible. Are you only working indoors in a studio with controlled lighting?

                I shoot airshows, wildlife/zoo, landscapes, night/astro, and kids running around and I always manage to pull more back from a RAW image shot at low ISO than the JPG. (I often shoot RAW+JPG unless I need a fast frame rate).

                This morning I was taking a few snapshots by the lake and if I wanted detail in both the ground in shadow and the water in sunlight without bracketing (which can be a pain when things are moving and wake waves are involved) I was looking at boosting shadows and dropping highlights. Every little bit of DR counts.

                I prefer Canon's colour-rendering

                Out of the box, so do I - Love my 700D and 80D, but i prefer just about everything else about my Nikon cameras. I currently use a D7200. Out of the box the colours coming from Nikon are too flat for my liking, so I use a picture profile I tweaked that boosts the saturation just a little giving rich greens and nicer skin tones without going too far. Once you tweak what's coming out of the camera to suit your preferences, it really doesn't matter which brand you bought. If you're a Canon shooter, you should take the time to familiarize yourself with Picture Styles - plenty of info in your camera manual and the DPP software manual. Canon Picture Styles and Nikon Picture Profiles are set in camera and are applied to every JPG and RAW. There are limits to what you can change but they're pretty extreme. I can get my cameras to produce sketches if I so choose.

          • diamondd on 30/12/2019 - 23:56
            +2

            @dm01: dynamic range may not be the be-all end-all but it is by far the most important metric when looking at sensor performance, especially when we're talking about 2.5 stops…

            bracketing and grads will only get you so far, and only in specific circumstances. 2.5 extra stops of dynamic range could well save your bacon - and in any conceivable circumstance.

            colour rendering and auto-focus are completely separate issues too. Canon use a Bayer filter same as everyone else (except Fuji) and their "colour science" is of little relevance if you're processing raw files like you should be (the upshot of shooting JPEGs perhaps is that you could make an argument against dynamic range seeing as you'll be throwing a lot of it away anyway).

            in regards to auto-focus, there's no reason why their system couldn't be slapped on a far better sensor.

            photography is painting with light and you absolutely want to catch as much of that light (information) as you possibly can, it's a no brainer. Of course you can make do with less, but with the other camera deals we've been seeing lately I don't know why you would.

            • dm01 on 31/12/2019 - 01:06
              +1

              @diamondd:

              dynamic range may not be the be-all end-all but it is by far the most important metric when looking at sensor performance, especially when we're talking about 2.5 stops

              No, I have to disagree with you there. For someone walking into a shop with $1000 to spend on a camera body (or kit) there are more important considerations.

              bracketing and grads will only get you so far,

              Bracketing with get you well beyond the 2.5 stop difference you're concerned about

              2.5 extra stops of dynamic range could well save your bacon - and in any conceivable circumstance.

              Makes you wonder how anyone ever managed to take photos prior to Sony coming along with their digital mirrorless system and extra couple of stops of DR.

              colour rendering and auto-focus are completely separate issues too.

              No they're not…

              Canon use a Bayer filter same as everyone else

              …the Bayer pattern may be the same layout, but different manufacturers use different dyes or pigments in producing the CFA.

              and their "colour science" is of little relevance if you're processing raw files like you should be

              Of course it's relevant - the camera is still interpreting the colours it's encoding into the RAW file.

              photography is painting with light and you absolutely want to catch as much of that light (information) as you possibly can, it's a no brainer.

              Except that for most people shooting most images, they're not capturing any less information…

              Of course you can make do with less, but with the other camera deals we've been seeing lately I don't know why you would.

              Because DR's importance is overblown, and there are other more important factors to consider when choosing a camera.

          • [Deactivated] on 31/12/2019 - 03:31

            @dm01:

            Bracketing exposures and grad filters are both ways to overcome extreme DR in a landscape scene.

            I'm not sure that's such great advice to be honest. Having to carry a 2kg tripod everywhere so you can bracket exposures because of pronounced sensor limitations isn't the killer feature you're trying to make it out to be.

            Advancements in sensor technology have left the imagers in the RP multi-generations behind now. The reason why the DR is so low is because of elevated levels of back-end read noise. Something almost entirely eliminated in modern sensors.

            Here's an explanation:
            https://photographylife.com/iso-invariance-explained

            For sure the RP has a place (predominantly brand enthusiasts not concerned with image quality) but it's going to be terribly limiting for anyone else when compared against modern mirrorless cameras.

            • Buy2Much on 31/12/2019 - 03:53
              +1

              @[Deactivated]: dm01 made a good point that people shopping for a full frame for $1k (or in the $1k-2k price bracket) are not going to walk in the stores asking for the best DR, there are other features that are more important to them. No one said that RP is the best full frame ever, this post is about getting a new full frame for a bargain $1k. People go off the tangent talking about how the RP cannot match features in more expensive professional full frames… It's like discussing over how a Corolla does not have the handling dynamics of a BMW M3, and handling dynamics is the key to keeping your tires stuck to the road, especially going around bends and corners, every bit counts otherwise your speed around the corner is limited LOL ;-)

              • [Deactivated] on 31/12/2019 - 05:10

                @Buy2Much: Heh, it's a curious thing advocating "great portability" while overlooking the need to inform a self described "noob" that bracketing requires the hauling along of a tripod!

                Shooting into the sun at sunrise/sunset is commonplace enough, and not just in landscape photography. An advantage of substantially wider DR in an ISO-invariant sensor is literally the ability to capture the entirety of a scene in a single exposure. Oftentimes no bracketing or tripods required.

                I also own an RX100 VI and it's incredibly limiting by comparison to my ILC. Purchasing a full-frame camera that has less DR than a 1-inch sensor P&S at base ISO is really questionable decision making as we transition into 2020.

              • snvl on 31/12/2019 - 07:24

                @Buy2Much:

                dm01 made a good point that people shopping for a full frame for $1k (or in the $1k-2k price bracket) are not going to walk in the stores asking for the best DR

                No, RP only make sense at this price. If you have more budget then there are better options. That’s why it is making sales now and no when it was release.

                Even at this price you wont see any of the Canon RP deals going OOS like the a7 III deals before.

                • Buy2Much on 31/12/2019 - 17:01
                  +1

                  @snvl: Wrong metric to measure a camera’s popularity by OOS as it depends on how many the stores had to start with :-p It looks like this is a Canon supported deal as most stores are selling around this price, so stock is not a problem as they’d be prepared for it. It’s end of the year, ‘seems that Canon wants to retain the best selling brand crown for another year hence the aggressive pricing to push volume. The previous A7 deals were mostly limited to single stores (discounts supported by themselves or ebay codes) so volume is limited to what they had in their stores. Several of those A7 deals were price errors hence OOS quickly.
                  P.S. I am just a hobbyist. I have owned Sony A7 i and ii. My latest Sony acquisition is the bridge camera RX10 iii. I also have a LUMIX MFT and a full frame Canon (which I have used to take direct sunset and sun rise photos) so I am not biased with any particular brand or sensor technology.

                  • snvl on 31/12/2019 - 22:33

                    @Buy2Much:

                    it depends on how many the stores had to start with :-p

                    Yep, you can tell how many have sold from eBay only. Teds ebay have sold 4

                • dm01 on 31/12/2019 - 19:34

                  @snvl:

                  Even at this price you wont see any of the Canon RP deals going OOS like the a7 III deals before.

                  It's rather ironic then that the RP+Adaptor combo I ordered from Amazon on boxing day is on backorder (my copy included).

                  • snvl on 31/12/2019 - 22:13

                    @dm01:

                    RP+Adaptor combo I ordered from Amazon on boxing day

                    Should have prime matched at JB

                    • dm01 on 31/12/2019 - 22:19

                      @snvl: No, I'm in no rush and it's cheaper from Amazon.

                      • snvl on 31/12/2019 - 22:33

                        @dm01:

                        I'm in no rush and it's cheaper from Amazon.

                        How come? Cash reward?

            • dm01 on 04/01/2020 - 13:11
              +1

              @[Deactivated]:

              Bracketing exposures and grad filters are both ways to overcome extreme DR in a landscape scene.

              I'm not sure that's such great advice to be honest. Having to carry a 2kg tripod everywhere so you can bracket exposures because of pronounced sensor limitations…

              Yes, because a tripod and grad filters are such unusual things for landscape photographers to be carrying around with them 😂

              It's hilarious when people claim anything less than the highest camera specs are limiting their photography - good luck achieving critically sharp landscape photos handholding your 42 or 60MP sensor, and I hope you don't want to stop down too far and/or shoot in low light!

              Comments like yours are great at showing who is more concerned with specs than actually capturing images.

    • garage sale on 30/12/2019 - 20:25
      +1

      not sure why you got negged.
      dynamic range the range between the darkest and lightest tones , usually black through to white. if you have low quality sensor you can end up taking candlelight photos and rather than black you get dark grey in some areas.

      it’s one of the many reason you get great photos with a digital camera at birthday parties vs using a phone.

  • Buy2Much on 30/12/2019 - 20:22

    Lowest price ever! I am sure stores get support from Canon with their aggressive market grab. They must be keen to retain their title again this year.
    https://global.canon/en/news/2019/20190327.html
    For those on the fence about Sony or Canon, it is like Android vs Apple, there's no clear winner. Decide what features are most important to you — like speed, autofocus, video, ergonomics, or price, then get the camera that suits your use cases. See
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/canon-vs-sony/

    • snvl on 30/12/2019 - 20:31

      Yep, almost half price is less than a year.

  • dm01 on 30/12/2019 - 20:23
    +1

    Yes it doesn't have great dynamic range but it has great portability, usability, menu system and most importantly full frame.

    add to that Canon colours, dual-pixel autofocus, 5 year warranty, some pretty amazing native glass (though you'll have to pay for it!) - at less than $1000 it's a great entry point into Canon's full-frame mirrorless system.

    If you're reliant on twin card slots, need to push shadows ridiculous amounts, or want to capture the highest quality 4K footage, you'll want to look elsewhere, but for most uses the RP is great.

    • garage sale on 30/12/2019 - 20:30

      also has higher res EVF than the sony a7 deal for $1000.
      I’m sure sony, nikon and canon will all be trying hard to make sales in the $1000 entry level FF mirrorless market in 2020 so people buy into their lens ecosystem and gain brand loyalty.

      • snvl on 30/12/2019 - 20:34

        sony a7 deal for $1000.

        That was with lens tho

        • garage sale on 30/12/2019 - 21:15

          yeah, made it even sweeter ….
          i haven’t invested in mirrorless yet , still happily using dslr, there are people that spend $1000 on a phone and upgrade 2 years later, problem with cameras is you buy into the lens system and don’t upgrade every 2 years ……

  • snvl on 30/12/2019 - 20:33

    I would get it with the adapter. Sure you can sell it for more than $100, making the camera cheaper.

    I don’t think there is a better option at this price.

    • Buy2Much on 30/12/2019 - 23:04

      I reckon it is cheaper to keep the adapter as you can make big savings buying good EF lenses (new or used). The new hardware and processing power enable the EF lenses to take better photos than on the original cameras they were designed for.

  • digitalane on 30/12/2019 - 20:44
    +2

    Didn’t need this. But the discount coupled with 2yrs interest free in an existing Zip account was too good to resist! Will dust off my EF L lenses and o
    Put this to the test!

    • robbie613 on 31/12/2019 - 18:42
      +1

      It's an absolute bargain at this price point, you won't regret it.

      • digitalane on 01/01/2020 - 15:54

        Thanks. I don’t use my 7D much but this might encourage me to use a little more often. Lucky enough to have 3 or 4 decent EF L lenses so looking forward to playing around

  • kind on 30/12/2019 - 21:32

    So tempted.
    —from 6D2 user

  • Buy2Much on 02/01/2020 - 01:45

    Read this review from a long term Sony photographer and make up your mind whether the Canon RF ecosystem is for you:
    https://alikgriffin.com/canon-eos-r-just-about-everyone-got-…
    Note that the review was written when the R first came out, before Canon released the AF firmware update which cancelled out the most complained about shortcoming of the R. Read the interesting comments at the bottom as well.

    • dm01 on 02/01/2020 - 19:19
      +1

      That's a good review and they brought up some points I hadn't considered before. Some very nice example images too.

      I love my R, and the RF lenses I have for it are incredible. The 24-105 is simply fantastic - I've read reviews describing it as best-in-class and after shooting with it can see why. But the lens that has blown my socks off is the 50mm 1.2 - forget that it's huge and has a price tag to match - it's just a sublime optic.

      I need to get my hands on an RF 85mm 1.2 to have a play with, but if it's anything like the RF 50 1.2 (and by all reports it is), I'll be replacing my 85LII with it sometime later this year.

      • Buy2Much on 02/01/2020 - 20:55
        +1

        I just got a top deal on the RF 24-70 F2.8 from Digidirect (yeah people complained about their “site wide” 19% discount, I was not one 😉). Will now sell my RF 24-105 F4 which is a beast of an all rounder (definitely the lens to have if your budget is limited). ‘Trying to build up my holy trinity lens collection when my budget allows…

        • digitalane on 04/01/2020 - 14:34

          If it’s the RF one I could be interested…..

          • Buy2Much on 04/01/2020 - 15:46

            @digitalane: Look up Gumtree, there are couple of RF 24-105mm in there… or PM me if you like.

      • digitalane on 04/01/2020 - 14:33
        +1

        Thanks. Your comment has encouraged me to get the 24-105. Was always gonna get the EF version of the lens but never got round to it. But the RF version will be the perfect compliment to my 70-200 and 28-70. The 24-105 seems like the perfect everyday lens

        • Buy2Much on 04/01/2020 - 15:45

          You won't regret it, I used it 90% of the time. Sell the 28-70 (I assume EF?) to fund your RF as you won't need that anymore :-)

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