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Probably due to coroanvirus yet still amazing if you dont give a shit.
Also note that some insurance policies do not cover pandemics/epidemics/ aka coronavirus.
Sydney to Taipei $260, Seoul $360 Return on AirAsia
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funnysht on 25/02/2020 - 17:59 flightscout.co (2046 clicks)
Last edited 25/02/2020 - 21:08 by 3 other users
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FlyScout is completely different organisation, and you don't even with them it just links you to another agent/the airline.
It's called a joke.
It's missing one of the essential elements of a joke, that being humour.
shame they had good deals straight to my junk mail folder
Whilst that's important news, I'm not sure how you've confused FlightScout with the Boy Scouts Association lol?
Joke
This company should rethink it's implied association with the scouts movement.
Agree completely. I think apple trees should be renamed too
AirAsia
Yeah I value my life waaaaay too much
That makes one of us
Hey its not malaysian air
Any airline can be the airline to be unexpectedly shot down by foreign military. The poor buggers
@ndftz: I disagree, many airliners flew around the conflict zones but Malaysian air chose to fly straight over it to save cost e.g Petrol.
The world No1 airline for many consecutive years, Singapore Airlines had a flight on the same route 25 kilometres behind the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 when it was shot down
seoul $360 return with quantas sponsored by aussie government, plus 14 days free beach holiday in christmas island
Yawn
Free 14 nights accommodation in Darwin?
Every time someone says Corona, is it me or is it normal to think of the beer first before the virus
It’s QANTAS! Arrgggjjh there is no ‘u’ you dork! It’s an acronym!
It is just Qantas now, not QANTAS.
It is a return ticket but it could be a one way trip. May you can't come back to AU…
Would paying using the AMEX Black Card insure the travel?
Yes, but don't expect cover against any claim related to the corona
Yeah my question was mainly directed at the corona. Idk whether to go or not because of the corona…
What exactly are you worried about?
@[Deactivated]: A pandemic occuring. Day by Day, the incidence rate of the Coronavirus Disease is increasing. The spread of cases is not linear, its exponential. By the time I will be potentially travelling (June or July), either the disease will be almost cured or the number of cases will increase and it will eventually spread outside of China. You've also got to consider that its a virus, its gonna evolve and become resistant to strains of medicine. Pretty much to the extent that whatever treatments are working now will be useless later on.
So, in reality, there is a lot to be worried about.
@thriftysach: Just because you read something on the internet, doesn't make.it true.
Your worst case speculation, is just that, not fact. Modern quarantine methods are quite effective.
But even if it did spread, The death rate currently is 2%. Less then the normal flu.
Do you avoid traveling because of the seasonal flu?
@[Deactivated]: The death rate for ‘normal flu’ is closer to 0.1-0.2%. So this is 10-20x more deadly..
@rutho: I always find it bizarre how many people think a 2% death rate is fine. I can't think of any activity that gives me a 1 in 50 chance of dying that I'd ever find acceptable!
By all means point out it's not a terrifying emergency like Ebola was, but it's certainly something to be concerned about…
@[Deactivated]: Yeah I won’t be taking medical advice from someone who can’t differentiate between then and than
@[Deactivated]: nearly 1 in 5 people end up in serious or critical condition. so the roughly 2% death rate suddenly jumps to 10%.
The question is why is China still building 1000 bed "hospitalls" if the increase in cases is as low as they are claiming.
An italian woman went from pneumonia symptoms to dead in 2 days. Iran says 15 dead but only 96 cases, so either Iran haas the supercahrged death plague, or there's round 750 infected.
CDC now warning of serious disuptions..
Global supply chains have started to break down, so no, it's no just a flu bro.
start stocking up on your beans and rice :)
I don't think coronavirus is claimable, its a foreseeable risk.
If you have a Black Card, you don't need insurance.
Wtf man, the underwriter will have exclusions such as "all travel booked after XX:YYpm on 29 July 2020 will be excluded, and all travel before will be included".
Ring up and ask. You'll see what I mean.
AirAsia charge massive fees to book with Amex. $200 flight quoted me $66 to use Amex. Even when I logged in via PayPal my AMEX wasn’t listed as a payment method, despite being my primary.
That defeats the purpose of a $180 ticket. Lol
Btw i mean the westpac one not the centurion one..
i have to apply my passport first…Sigh…
AirAsia safety good? Anyone flown with them before able to please provide any thoughts on that overall experience?
I have returned multiple times successfully. IMHO once you pay for food and bags, there ain't much difference than any other airline (except alcohol and I flight entertainment).
No brainier at this price.Any crashes or did you die? You didn’t specify so just wanna check if it’s safe
Even among the F rank airlines Air Asia has the smallest seats.
Perfectly fine. Flown many times with them.
It depends on which "branch" you fly with. Let's just say I'd rather the Malaysian maintenance regime than how they might run it in Indonesia…
Flew into a thunderstorm and had no idea what to do. Crashed and many lives lost.
You sending this from the other side:)
I've flown with them many times. My experiences have been fairly positive - better than most budget carriers.
They always advertise those cheap price, but you'll almost never get them
I was looking at these flights to Malaysia today, worked out to be around $2k for a family of 6 during school holidays, was so close to pulling the trigger but decided against it.
Looks like a bargain today but these fares may continue to get cheaper
Fares could be consistently at this price! As long as corona fears continue, so will the amazing prices!
Has anyone found $360 return to Seoul dates? Lowest i can find within the dates are around $450
Saw Perth to Seoul for 184$ yesterday via KL
Was so tempting…They selling as a return fare to South Korea knowing that you won't return. That's how good pricing.
Seriously please don't risk bringing it back just cause flights are cheap…have some decency, it's on the verge of a pandemic
Are you that ignorant?
Obviously. You realise 3500 people in Oz die from the flu every year, thats about 10/day. Would you not travel to Australia because you might catch the flu & die?
You're more likely to get hit by a car & die, get food poisoning & die and countless other ways to die OS or at home.
I like to get my facts from reliable source, not click-bait newssites.
Have a read of the WHO site.
At present, 99% of all COVID-19 cases are occurring in China, with the majority of those in Hubei Province. For people in most other parts of the world, your risk of getting COVID-19 is currently low,
@[Deactivated]: Glad you've learnt not to get your facts from Vic markets sellers giving you fake info ;-)
@cmyk: Oh no, i still do :-) a fully factual life is fully boring i still avoid my Chinese ginger, especially now, those pesky diesase-ridden students probably bring it in & spit on it.
@[Deactivated]: For those that aren't aware, the WHO actually has a terrible reputation these days for its reactivity to emergencies, with Ebola being the last major failure. There's a lot to read, but basically a lot of talented people leave the organisation after realising it's made up of bureaucratic yes-men and paper pushers, with a strong culture of not rocking the boat when rapid on-the-ground action is needed (…so not too dissimilar to Wuhan bureaucrats).
To be fair, it's not an easy responsibility (and they've achieved great things in the past). They got blamed for causing member states to spend billions of unnecessary dollars on the H1N1 vaccine by allegedly overstating the risk. So a month ago, when they react to an emergent virus with no reliable epidemiological data by suggesting countries keep borders open to allow disease traceability…very few countries listened.
@[Deactivated]: You are missing the fact that it’s Coronavirus PLUS also the flu. Double wammy. Healthy people have been dying of Corona also.
Who knows, Korea just had a massive spike, a case in Italy where someone died without going to China or being in contact with someone from China and someone who had it for 27 days before showing symptoms and being diagnosed. Whether these are all true or not is a different story and these places are very close to China. Not sure if they have banned flights from China, if they haven't then Chinese students could use it as a back door. At the very least, they have to stay there for 2 weeks. If you're going for a week or two and not being quarantined then who knows. Also other countries are looking/have banned flights from South Korea and Japan.
You may be right, everything I said could be wrong and there is no risk but I'd rather not try to find out.
Have a read, be informed, not afraid.
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses
Unless your frail or have lung related heath issues, then even if you miraculously did catch it (99% of cases are in China), them you probably won't even know you've had it, let alone die from it. It's like a cold, mild flu for the vast majority of people. Sick for a few days and then you're right.
Most people (about 80%) recover from the disease without needing special treatment.
As I said above, around 3500 people in Oz die from the flu each year. Bit you wouldn't tell people not to travel to Oz because they might die from the flu.
My only concern would be if you were stuck somewhere because they closed the airports, etc.
@[Deactivated]: 80% recovery rate isn't a reassuring number when ~20% develop a severe case that requires hospitalisation. Most those cases then require oxygen. Knowing how overburdened the healthcare system is at the best of times, I can't imagine how they'd cope if a virus like this infected enough people. You may believe 1/5 chances of getting a severe case of this virus is worth the risk. Yeah I agree, everyone should inform themselves.
@Ronnnie: But that's no different to the seasonal flu. I don't think most of them require oxygen.
I think people are terrible at assessing risk. We panic at the unlikely (like terrorists, planes falling out of the sky, houses burning down due to chinese powerboards/power plugs), but are so blase about the real risks (getting sick from not washing your hands before eating, unprotected sex, eating crap).
@[Deactivated]: As noodlefan said, recovery rate is high due to adequate care and limited number of patients. Once this reaches tens or hundreds of thousands we're screwed. Yes the flu kills more people but that's because it affects more people. The coronavirus I hear is somewhere around 2-3% vs 0.01% for the flu but you're also right. I'm probably not gonna die from it but I don't want to have other people die from it because of me just because I saw cheap plane tickets and wanted to go somewhere high risk
@[Deactivated]: You obviously haven't informed yourself. How ironic telling others to inform themselves when you haven't done so yourself…
No, ~20% of seasonal flu cases don't require hospitalisation for weeks on end or access to high level of healthcare like this virus does.
The fatality rate outcomes will comedown to minimising the spreas, too many cases at once then that'll be a real problem. We can see the death toll will climb fast in countries with less quality healthcare resources. Iran is an obvious example.
@[Deactivated]: The reason recovery rate outside China is pretty high now is very limited number of patient so they received very high level medical care, once large number of people been infected healthy system will be overwhelmed.
Maybe you're phisically super strong and healthy, that's good for yourself to recover, what about everyone might be infected from you, average 14 days incubation period is pretty long.
@noodlefan: The Koreans and Italians have a relative small number of confirmed cases but already look to be overwhelmed. With new cases popping up in new locations everyday the next few weeks will give an indication where this is heading.
@Ronnnie: How high does it need to be for you to no longer consider that it is a small number? "More European countries report infections and South Korean cases rise to more than 1,000" (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052402/coro…) and in this graph, it appears to be exponentially rising (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51609840).
@Popo: I was saying the number is 'relatively' a small number; which in a country of 50 million it is. It just shows how serious the issue is when such a small proportion of the population being infected are causing such problems.
Also note that some insurance policies do not cover pandemics/epidemics/ aka coronavirus.
Don't cover what? Treatment or delays/evacuation?
From WHO
https://news.un.org/en/story/2020/02/1057991
COVID-19 not yet a pandemic, says UN health agency chief
Lol, it’s days or hours away from declaring it
Technically, it is a pandemic. They conviently decided to say its not so that the world economy doesnt collapse on itself.
Moving the goalposts or not:
https://i.imgur.com/PmFcs0u.jpg
this is what they had before. Its now easily at STAGE 6. It's a pandemic.
If there is a specific exclusion then they cover nothing related to that. Read your policy wording, people.
DFAT already has travel warnings for parts of Asia. The thing that will most likely sting you in practice with travel insurance in this instance is disinclination to travel. Unless DFAT is saying don't travel then if you change your mind about going you're not covered. Things can easily get worse between your purchase, departure, and arrival.
Treatment in a pandemic is going to be less of an issue of payment and more of one of availability. If shit goes south then you won't be getting medical care. Asia is already having supply issues, it won't take much to push that into desperate territory. If you are the sort of idiot that thinks going to Asia is a good idea right now then I would strongly suggest buying and carrying medical supplies for your own treatment.
Evacuations are also a problem. As we have already seen, nations have executed quarantines that would mean that even if you had the evac lined up the plane wouldn't be cleared to land. That being said, we've already seen Australia's default response to these situations in the case of Wuhan - everyone was evac'ed to quarantine by the military. If countries, including us, are forced to close or restrict borders then you are not getting evac'ed.
I worked in travel insurance around the time that the Bali bombings happened and the military evac'ed everyone in two days. We basically didn't have to do much because everyone was back before there was anything we could have done. Whilst you don't ever want to be in that situation you can rest assured that the Australian military are extremely qualified and efficient.
Be careful with AirAsia, they board and leave early often..
Recently I missed a connection at Malaysia as the flight left early! There was a big queue in security check, but we still reached 10 mins early! The security at gate didn't even let us in, said - gate closed, flight left, you should come 30 mins before departure!
And it was not just us. I was surpised that an international flight left early, leaving 7 passengers behind! We had to pay full (exorbitant) price and buy new tickets online (even though we went to airasia counter) to catch next flight, which was after 12+ hrs! A friend who was on the flight later told me that they waited on the ramp to take our bags out! We were asked to go thru immigration to claim bags (which means you need to take visa, depending on your passport and need a new ticket)
They did the same for next flight also, and reached Sydney almost an hour earlier! Then waited to get a gate and finally had to take bus to the terminal from tarmac! Very weird!
Also they are now very strict on baggage allowance - weigh carry-in and only 7kg including all laptop, handbag etc. If you are over, expect to pay high excess fees!
"you should come 30 mins before departure" This is correct. This isn't only AirAsia either. It's all airlines.
Coming to the gate 10 mins (especially for an international flight) before departure is asking for disapointment. The didn't leave early, they left on time. You were late for boarding by 20mins.
I understand, usually others start boarding up to 30 mins before and wait until departure - if checked in passengers are late! I am sure they started boarding way before, else can't leave that early. They didn't gain any time, it was spent on taking loaded bags out!
Most wont wait until departure time to close the gate - most will close the gate 10/15mins before the flight leaves
wow so may -ve votes just for sharing personal experience!
May you all insensitive self-righteous folks miss a flight too ;-)
As do you.
Learn to arrive on time and you won’t have these issues.
If you are thinking of a vacation in Taipei, do not transit through China, Hong Kong or Macau. They have a mandatory 14 day self quarantine period.
Why would that be relevant to this Deal via KL?
A good deal for doctors who want to research in the virus on their own expenses.
Work experience students?….
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Argh should i go ..dammmm that's cheap