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MSY Promotion - Patriot 64GB Torqx2 SSD-128M $89 on 03/09 ONLY ($50off, Original Price $139)

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Patriot 64GB Torqx2 "PT264GS25SSDR" SSD-128M Buffer, 270M Read

$89 special on 03/09 ONLY!!
• Limited 2 per customer
• Email order (must pick up on 03/09)
• While stock lasts!!!

Features:
Sequential Read: up to 270MB/s*
Sequential Write: up to 230MB/s*
Interface: SATA I/II
TRIM Support (O/S dependent)
RAID Support: Yes
128MB DRAM Cache
Power Consumption:
DC 5V
Standby 0.5W
Operating 5.3W
MTBF: > 1,500,000 Hours
Data Retention: >5 years at 25° C
Data Reliability: Built in BCH 9, 24-bit ECC
Operating Temperature: 0°C~70°C
Storage Temperature: 40°C~85°C
Operating Shock: 1,500G (@ 0.5msec half sine wave)
Vibration Resistance: 20G/80~2000Hz w 3 axis
Humidity: 0°C to 55°C / 95% RH, 10 cycles
O/S Support: Win XP / Vista / 7

*Based on internal ATTO Disk Benchmark testing
** Capacities stated are unformatted. The total formatted capacity for the drive will differ, depending on the operating system and file system used.

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  • Warranty?

    • 2 yrs~~

  • +1

    Bargain, yes. But a little small, even for OS and Apps IMO.
    Plus you've got to keep ~10% free at all times or performance really suffers :(

    • +1

      But a little small, even for OS and Apps IMO.

      I have a 60Gb Vertex and it's fine…

      have Windows 7, MS office, video / photo software and lots of other stuff and still have 20Gb left…
      i don't have any games though…

      Boots up in about 15 secs now instead of 2 minutes !!!!

      • +1

        I have a 120GB. Games and user data relocated to a traditional harddrive.

        Win 7 ultimate, CS5.5 suite, office pro, lightroom and a few other softwares. 60+ GB gone.

        Depends on your needs.

        • Just curious, how much of that is hiberfil.sys and pagefile.sys?

          Based on the applications you mention they could easily be 32GB combined.

        • Not sure but with 16GB ram. I doubt page file will be much.

          I have hibernation disabled as well as i don't use it. Either i leave my computer on or turn it off. Starting up is less than 20 seconds anyway.

        • Normally Windows matches your RAM with the pagefile size. Ditto to Hibernate. hiberfil.sys often appears even if you think you've disabled it. You should turn off hidden files and check if they're there.

        • I'll have a check on both.

          I manually set my pagefile in preferences to be 2GB all the time rather than system managed. I always make sure i have sufficient ram as most of the stuff i do is ram intensive. I don't know if it'll be that size?

        • Did a quick check. Pagefilesys 2GB. Hiberfil.sys no where in sight. :) 55.6 GBs used. Not 60+ as previously mentioned (my old foggy memory is failing me).

          Still a 60GB drive will be cutting it close for me.

      • +2

        I never turn off my PC, just put it into sleep mode, and it takes about 5 seconds to wake up. :)

        P.S. I'm still using an old 60GB SATA drive

        • In this day and age sleep is essentially turning it off anyway. I rarely turn my macbook off, even when I'm mobile, it uses less power on standby than it does booting.

        • doesnt that uses a lot of power still during sleep mode?

    • great for a server or even better, for VMs.

  • +2

    pray you can deal directly with manufacturer/distributor

    • +2

      what if you're not religious?

      • then with msy…ur screwed lol

        • +1

          I've done 6 RMAs with MSY. They're not speedy, but they always come through without needing any reminders and reliably let me know if I haven't picked something up.

          Balcatta MSY, in case anyone's wondering.

  • Can't pick up today, no thanks. But still good price.

    • +1

      it's tomorrow, not today

  • +1

    is this brand reliable? more importantly.. the ssd
    lets say compared to vertex 2?

    just dun wanna get something worse than that

  • Anyone know if this will work with the Z68's quick cache stuff? Or does it need an Intel SSD?

    • Yes it will work, I have set them up before on the Z68, they take any ssd, just have to install the os as raid controller

  • so how does it work ? we can't order now ? do you have to wait till tomorrow to order ?

    • +4

      so how does it work ?

      lots and lots of transistors…

  • I would have grabbed one but my local (Chipping Norton NSW) is closed for upgrades and dont want to go into the city to get one

  • is SSD really worth it though?

    at its regular price, this SSD is $2 per Gig
    at discount price, it's still more than $1 per Gig

    • +1

      Depends on how you use it. IMO. Yes. Extremely worth it when huge applications such as Photoshop etc opens pretty much at a few quick snaps of the finger rather than 10 seconds or so.

      I'm feeling the pain working on my computer and laptop at work cause it's just so slow! LoL

    • +4

      It's all about SPEED. If computer read/write speed isn't important to you, then SSD isn't worth it.

      People don't consider buying SSD because they are cheaper than standard Hard Drives, they consider them because they are faster than standard Hard Drives.

      EDIT - after reading the post below from Jabba the Hutt, I better change that to "they are USUALLY faster than conventional Hard Drives"

    • +3

      If you're asking if this SSD in particular is worth it, I'd say it's a good price for what you're paying. You have to consider there are many other SSD's out there that are a lot faster than this one.
      If you're skeptical about SSD's, $89 seems like a reasonable price to introduce yourself to the latest technology.

      If you're asking about SSD's in general, it's like what Keefy said about it being dependent on your needs.
      In my opinion, it's more of a luxury than necessity. In saying that though, I'm about to invest $1.5k on a new computer and I know that no matter what CPU, RAM or motherboard I buy, the typical SATA 7200RPM drives are always going to bottle neck my everyday computing. SSD's removes this bottleneck.

      [edit] bottle neck my everyday computing regarding loading (multiple) applications

      • +1

        Bang on. I can't say it better enough.

        "More of a luxury than a necessity"

        I absolutely agree. I mean what's 10 seconds of waiting for a software to open vs 1 second. 2 minutes vs 20 seconds for a computer to boot up? I mean what we do with our computers can't be THAT time sensitive. So for the luxury you sacrifice storage space and $$.

        Luxury vs Need.

  • +7

    This review compared it directly with the Kingston V100 (128GB versions) which goes for around $115 in 64GB.

    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Kingston-SSDNow-V100-…

    Says they're about the same performance-wise. The Techpowerup review (again 128GB version) summed up the Patriot drive this way:

    Patriot's Torqx 2 solid state drive can not impress in our testing. Its performance is about on par with that of a typical high-performance harddrive - far away from other common SSDs today. Why is performance so low? First of all, Patriot has chosen to use a flash controller made by Phison which does not seem to be capable of competing with controllers like Marvell or SandForce.

    Hmm. I guess if money's tight and you really want an SSD, any SSD…

    • Yeah I was just talking to mate about this, who knows a bit, and he was asking if it had a SandForce controller…

  • "Data Retention: >5 years at 25° C"

    Forgive the silly question…but what does the above mean?

    Its even sillier when one considers I already have a SSD as my C:

    • +2

      It'll safely store data without errors for more than 5 years if stored at 25 degrees.

    • +1

      Flash memory cells lose their data over time when they are not rewritten. The insulators are not perfect and the electrical charge eventually leaks out of the cells. It's a good reason to copy camera memory cards onto more durable media such as multiple DVDs.

  • +10

    I would grab one, but I dont have 8 Hours to spend at my local MSY tomorrow :( Oh well, next time maybe!

  • Awesome, I just brought two of them, going to raid 0, for $178 for 128gig ssd space, nothing will come close to speed/cost….

    • +5

      nothing will come close to speed/cost….

      2 vertex 3's for $139 each…

      http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&p…

      twice the speed, and not twice the cost…

      • I was thinking of getting 2 for RAID 0 config but after looking at your post should I just get one OCZ Vertex 3 (60GB)?

        So will one "OCZ Vertex 3 (60GB)" be faster than two "Patriot Torqx 2 (64GB)" in RAID 0??

        btw I dont think I will need 128GB as its just for single OS

        • +2

          So will one "OCZ Vertex 3 (60GB)" be faster than two "Patriot Torqx 2 (64GB)" in RAID 0??

          i can't see why it wouldn't ???

          you'd also be getting a newer drive with better hardware and controller…

        • +3

          Consider the SSD controller before purchasing. Sandforce is the only true reliable controller for performance if you are looking for value which the OCZ Vertex has.

    • +2

      Just remember, unless you only care about sequential read/writes (like game loading screens, or trans/encoding video), then you should be looking at good random read/write benchs for low file sizes. This will make EVERYTHING smoother - in particular multitasking and your OS.

  • Does this one come with 3.5" bracket? If not, where u guys buy your bracket? eBay?

  • will buy one and put into my GF's NB ^

  • I feel like using it on my MBP… not that it's going to make much difference…
    or should I use it on my desktop? Hmmm maybe I should buy this first and think about what to do afterwards

  • +1

    MSY have never replied to my online orders, only sent an automated email saying 'Thank you for shopping with MSY Online. Please wait for the order confirmation email, a branch manager will contact you soon.'

    The confirmation email never comes.

    Great huh?

    • +1

      Got my confirmation 20 minutes later. They just hate you.

  • +2

    Just rock up there and blame them for being inept.

  • Argh, literally yesterday decided that this was too expensive and bought the Kingston 64GB SDD instead.

  • MSY's stock control is probably the biggest joke in the world.

  • +1

    I am in the market for a 64GB SSD for my media center, but I think I'll pay the extra $30 and get the Crucial M4 from B&H

    • How much is shipping from B&H?

      • Around $30USD, but the drive is only $100USD, so around $122AUD all up

  • I hope my gf doesn't find out my plan of getting this….

    • +2

      why, what do you do to your SSD ? :O

  • This is tempting, especially raiding them effectively creating a 128GB OS drive. But its also a sign the SSD prices are coming down and capacity ratio to cost will improve. I guess media center are a great setup though.

    • +1

      But its also a sign the SSD prices are coming down

      or a sign that this is the older generation now and people aren't buying them…

  • Can't agree more with jv about the Vertex 3, much better than raiding. Though I do have a question,

    Its performance is about on par with that of a typical high-performance harddrive

    Is it? My Samsung Spinpoint F3 gets around 135MB/s write and 120MB/s read, on an Asus M4A87TD-USB3 motherboard using a SATA 6Gbps port. What is considered to be a typical high performance harddrive these days?

    • It seems what Techpowerup meant by "typical high performance hard drive" is a WD Raptor, and what they meant by "performance" is their Performance Summary result.

      http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Patriot/Torqx_2_128_GB/9.…

      You'll notice in the individual tests most of the SSDs tended to be relatively grouped together in performance, while the Patriot vied with the Raptor in being mediocre or outstandingly weak, depending on the scenario.

      • But think of the low power consumption, size, and noise advantage over the Raptor.

      • It's fairly clear from the benchmarks the biggest issue is with the write speed. The higher the write % of each test, the worse it fares compared to the Raptor. The almost 100% read tests of Windows load time, virus scan & game load time are all significantly better on the SSD. The one exception is the Photoshop CS5 startup/load photo/close test, which is the only test that doesn't go with that theory. I'm guessing because of setting up/writing to the scratch file, which techpowerup don't seem to have taken into account - I'd be interested if they set a smaller than default scratch file whether the performance difference would be less noticeable.

        That being said, if you're using this simply as a system drive in a standard home/home office computer that mostly does simple stuff like Windows, web browser, email & documents it's pretty clear this'd crap all over a Raptor (once everything's installed).

    • +1

      A spinpoint has never been considered a high performance hard drive anyway, a Raptor or other 10k rpm drive is high performance yet still falls behind an SSD easily

      Sequential speeds on a normal hard drive don't remain the same unlike on a SSD, depending where on the platter it is the read write speed drops and it's even worse when writing smaller files etc.

      Your speed would have been measured on a new hard drive, not one that's been used for awhile and using large sequential data sets to get such a high read/write

      Random read and writes are what makes or breaks a hard drive and those of even a cheap SSD destroy even a Raptor hard drive.

  • I don't know why people like Raid 0 so much when the cost vs miniscule performance gain is just a sad waste of money for 99% of the people.

  • This review is more favourable - http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&tas….

    Very slow IOPS, not sure what would that mean in real world.

  • At $89 do you think I should get this for my ThinkPad or should I invest a bit more for a better one?

    • What do you normally do day to day with your Thinkpad?

      • Nothing at the moment it just sits there haha. But I'll be using it web browsing, word processing, and excel.

        • It's a great budget option in that case. As I mentioned above and as the link Jabba the Hut provided shows, it'll make a big difference over a regular notebook drive (which would be quite a bit slower than the Raptor it's compared to in that link) in standard operational load times.

        • Thanks, but I've decided to go for a different SSD (see my post).

        • Fair call, the M4 is a great deal too.

  • +2

    Spend the little extra to invest in a Sandforce controller equipped SSD (eg. OCZ Vertex/Agility series). It'll be much more worth it.

    • Thanks for the input.

    • +1

      I've decided to go with the Crucial M4 as I've found it for a pretty good price.

  • +1

    Limit 2 per customer…

    Does that mean if the first customer buys 2 then they're all sold out???

  • Local MSY will open 10:30AM today, but now(8:31am):

    "Name: Patriot 64GB TORQX-2 SSD-128M Buffer. (Special Price $89 on 03/09 ONLY)
    Our Price: $139.00
    Stock: Out of Stock"

    • I had no problem ordering the SSD at 10:30. Maybe just your store?

  • I got two from Balcatta MSY without any problems.

    About to RAID them up and fresh install Win 7. Hurrah.

    • Quite nice.

      With all programs that I'll be using day-to-day installed it takes up 14.3GB (+4GB pagefile). I'll probably pop a game or two on there just for the fun. I already kept all music-video-photos-documents on an alternate drive, so that'll remain exactly where it is.

      Most likely I'll end up removing one and popping it in my notebook and running this PC with a single one too, but it's fun to RAID it for now.

      • You should try doing a benchmark to see how little your gains are with raid. :)

        • HD Tune has it reading at 500MB/s. Which is nice.

          But yeah, I get the feeling the nice quick program opens won't change much when I de-RAID it.

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