Quality of Techfast's Computer Parts

CheapDeals on 08/04/2020 - 20:10

Hi all!

I'm contemplating to either build a computer from scratch or to purchase it through Techfast. I know that Techfast will be cheaper by a good $300 but this comes at the cost of coming incredibly slow. At the moment, this is my current build from scratch:

  • Ryzen 5 3600
  • Asrock x570
  • MSI RTX 2070 Super
  • Crucial 1tb NVME
  • Team Delta Ram 2x8 3000Mhz
  • NZXT H510
  • PSU 650W Platinum/Gold (Open for recommendations)

Total: ~2200. (Feel free to give recommendations on any other parts)

With $2200, I know I can get a better build from Techfast even if I were to upgrade a lot of the parts, but my biggest fear is the quality/brand of the parts they use. So I was hoping for those who have purchased and received their PC from Techfast, what brands did they use for your parts and how are they holding up?

Also, I will be purchasing with a 28 degree so it'll allow me to price protection which may allow me to claim some mulla back.

Thanks,

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  • p1 ama on 08/04/2020 - 20:43
    +3

    All the parts are sourced from the same factories. There's no "secret sauce" that makes MSI cards different from Gigabyte cards, for example.

    There are places where TechFast will cut corners, e.g. cheaper motherboard, PSU and case. Will this affect performance? Not really. That said, this looks underwhelming for a $2200 build. You can do much better. Depending on whether you need more CPU or GPU performance, I'd either go with 3700X + 2070S, or 3600 + 2080S for $2200.

    PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7HHB7T

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($328.00 @ Shopping Express)
    Motherboard: ASRock B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.00 @ Centre Com)
    Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($118.80 @ Newegg Australia)
    Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($187.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
    Video Card: GALAX GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB EX (1-Click OC) Video Card ($1199.00 @ PCCaseGear)
    Case: Silverstone Precision PS15 RGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
    Power Supply: Cooler Master MasterWatt 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($98.00 @ Shopping Express)
    Total: $2168.80
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 20:42 AEST+1000

    Or if you want to save a few $$$:

    PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LRdmRk

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($328.00 @ Shopping Express)
    Motherboard: ASRock B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.00 @ Centre Com)
    Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($118.80 @ Newegg Australia)
    Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($187.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($881.90 @ Device Deal)
    Case: Silverstone Precision PS15 RGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
    Power Supply: Cooler Master MasterWatt 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($98.00 @ Shopping Express)
    Total: $1851.70
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 20:44 AEST+1000

    • CheapDeals on 08/04/2020 - 21:38

      Thanks mate, will look into these.

      I understand the technology behind each gpu is essentially the same but what causes the price difference then?

      • Mister Popo on 08/04/2020 - 21:54

        I think its partly brand power, and some of it is cooling design (different fan layout, heatsink).

      • dcep on 08/04/2020 - 21:55

        cheapo $20 case
        cheapo $15 psu
        cheapo $5 hsf
        cheapo $40 A320m mobo
        cheapo $30 single 8gb 2133mhz ram
        cheapo $20 SSD 128gb dram-less

        even then, it'll last just as fine and performs 50% better in gaming than your setup, with 2080Ti

      • aussieprepper on 08/04/2020 - 23:05
        -2

        Its not that simple some times buying a lesser quality part is a bad move. The boards the GPUs sit on are all designed by each company themselves. To save cost some companies might skimp on parts. Lesser brand Mosfet maybe smaller Mosfet that can't handle as much power or bigger Mosfet but less channels, Smaller traces in the board less inductors because you have less channels.
        Which means less need for overall heat sinking as it can't handle as much power. A card like this may lead to it being a bad over clocker. Maybe even less overall life span of the card due to excessive heating.

        A factory OC edition of a card may just have a better board layout and parts+ cooling.

    • polol on 08/04/2020 - 22:59

      why 2070 super over 5700xt? the price difference at the moment seems like a lot.

      • p1 ama on 09/04/2020 - 02:23
        +2

        I have a 5700XT, it's a pretty good card, but I'd still recommend the 2060S/2070S. I've had all sorts of driver issues with the 5700XT, it can be temperamental and unstable in some situations and even though it's a good gaming card, it's not a good compute card. It's a bit unfortunate, but most compute applications run better on CUDA compared to OpenCL. Case in point, my wife has a GTX 1080 that's slower than my 5700 XT in games, but smokes it in video encoding. The Turing cards are only better vs. Pascal for compute.

    • iseeyou1312 on 16/04/2020 - 04:44

      There's no "secret sauce" that makes MSI cards different from Gigabyte cards, for example.

      Well, MSI use double ball bearing fans whereas Gigabyte use really cheap sleeve bearings.

  • aussieprepper on 08/04/2020 - 20:53
    +1

    Do you really need the X570 mobo? Why not a B450? I wouldn't rate ASrock as the best brand. Save some cash on that?

    You can maybe save a few bucks on ram if you buy crucial i think it.

    Plus the case from Techfast would be a generic case that you can probably buy for like 50-60 dollars at least half price to your case.

    Search around for the RTX2070 super the prices vary so much between shops.

    https://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=rtx%202070…

    • CheapDeals on 09/04/2020 - 00:09

      Yea I've looked on staticice for most of my parts. idk why the galax is so much cheaper than the other brands, do they have a bad rep?

      regarding the b450 vs x570, I was considering getting the tomahawk b450 but ended up wanting to pay an additional $40 for the x570

      • scrimshaw on 09/04/2020 - 01:40
        +2

        GALAX are cheap because they don't spend their money on advertising as much as other brands do. You can get a lemon with almost any brand… case in point, ASUS (reputable brand) has a history of producing badly designed Radeon cards. They did it with Vega 64 Strix card (VRM heatsink issue) and 5700XT TUF (also VRAM heatsink issue). And these were the most expensive cards in their product stack at the time of release.

        • CheapDeals on 09/04/2020 - 22:31

          thanks mate,

          I'm going to go with the b450, but now i totally forgot i also need a wifi card. So i'm deciding between the b450 mortar max + asus ac56 ac1300 or b450 gaming pro carbon - both will cost the same.

          • Adoses on 11/04/2020 - 16:10
            +1

            @CheapDeals: The MSI gaming pro carbon OC comes with built in wifi and BT

  • MagicMushroom on 08/04/2020 - 21:23

    Have a look at this thread with people posting what they've got https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/424660#comment

    X570 and nvme drive is a bit excessive, B450 and sata drive is good enough.

    • CheapDeals on 09/04/2020 - 00:13

      yea i was juggling between the two, I guess with a x570 i'm looking at the long time so i'll be able to reuse it later for other builds.

      Regarding the nvme drive, they're the same price as a good sata drive. I was going to either get the crucial nvme or samsung/kingston sata which go for the same price, thoughts?

      • MagicMushroom on 09/04/2020 - 01:23
        +1

        I think B450 will last similar to x570, it will be one of the last thing to break in pc anyways. Maybe have a look at x470 too as an in-between solution ?

        I'd go nvme at same price as sata. I'm assuming you're building for gaming? 500gb nvme + cheap 1tb sata might be good or buy 500gb nvme for now and add when ssd price go down?

        If you want the best performance/dollar + have spare time, I'd recommend getting techfast build unassembled, so you can sell parts you don't like in brand new condition (lots of good parts if lucky). Add that money in buying better parts.
        For example, get the Ryzen 5 3600 RTX 2080 Super Gaming PC with 3200mhz ram, 1tb ssd or nvme ssd and gold psu. I think that's just below $2000.

        • CheapDeals on 09/04/2020 - 21:33

          I'm going to go with the b450, but now i totally forgot i also need a wifi card. So i'm deciding between the b450 mortar max + asus ac56 ac1300 or b450 gaming pro carbon - both will cost the same.

          • MagicMushroom on 09/04/2020 - 21:52

            @CheapDeals: Both are top tier B450 motherboard, go for what you like. Personally, I'd go with b450 gaming pro carbon ac because it has m.2 heatsink and better audio components.

  • garetz on 09/04/2020 - 04:14

    If you end up getting the techfast, make sure you replace the power supply, other than that should be fine.

  • abctoz on 09/04/2020 - 16:56

    the only component that is slightly dubious is the psu, and even there i would say you're fine for at least 5 years

    if you want custom build i just had a discussion here:
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/527521#comment-8510419

    tldr the dell deals are quite decent right now, but even with those you're looking at 2-3 weeks of wait…

  • AydenRw on 19/04/2020 - 18:03
    Merged from How Are The TechFast Builds?

    When I research tech fast all I can find is complaints about how long it takes people to receive their orders and not much about the builds themselves.

    Has anyone had a TechFast prebuilt for 1 year ~ and can give some feedback on how the machine has been running?

    (Thinking about buying one of the there cheaper builds below 1k)

    Cheers

    • SelfRaisingFlour on 19/04/2020 - 18:47

      I got one for work, and it's been really good so far. Been running it quite hard in a work environment as well. Mine got damaged by Australia Post in shipping and they were really fast in sending out replacement parts so I could have it up and running for an event. I found the support really good around it.
      Only thing I would avoid is the 'Leaper Pro' case they bundle with some of their builds. It's possibly the worst case I've ever used. Worth paying a bit extra to upgrade it.
      Specs if it matters:
      i7 8th Gen
      Gigabyte RTX 2080
      16gb RAM
      Thermaltake lite power 800 Watt (I think?) PSU

    • mbck on 19/04/2020 - 19:21

      Got one for work. No issues at all. For me it was standard turn around. For the price I paid, i was happy. I remember they replied fast too.

    • MagicMushroom on 19/04/2020 - 19:44

      Bought one before techfast got popular on ozbargain. Build back then was a lot worse in terms of component quality. Still working great but swapped out everything except CPU and GPU. Still worth it imo.

    • sickllama on 19/04/2020 - 20:54

      Got a great deal in Mar19 on a gaming PC with large screen. They threw in a wifi USB for free and a case upgrade (clear side with fancy lights). Paid about $800-900 from memory. Compared to $2000+ alienware spec wise. Very good PC. My husband is the gamer and he's happy. I use for WFH and internet and super snappy for that. It's also very quick to turn on.

      Very happy with our purchase. PC before was a $4k alienware from 2012. Its way faster than that. I'd say we got 7 years out of the $4k PC, then if we get 2 years out of the sub$1k then we're ahead. No probs 13 months in.

  • beeze on 25/04/2020 - 23:11

    I'm happy with mine, was debating between building and buying from Techfast.

    Needed up with a small hybrid;
    - Bought windows seperately
    - Added NVME after
    - made a better GPU support
    - Added a fair number of upgrades (vented case, faster RAM, Gold PSU).

    If I was more confident, I could have boughr it base spec and added the other parts for much the same cost, but as it's my 1st PC, happy with how it player out.

    • CheapDeals on 29/04/2020 - 22:21

      thanks, i just ended up building my own from scratch

  • Danta on 08/05/2020 - 22:08
    +1

    My recent Tf pc, it’s awesome!

    Amd 3700x
    32gb 3200mh/z DDR4 xpg ram
    Msi Ventus rtx 2080ti
    Crucial 1tb nvme m.2 ssd
    Can’t see the 2tb hard drive
    Gigabyte 750h gold psu
    Msi gaming pro max x470 mb

    all quality parts. Would recommend. Even Had good communication. Eventually :)

    • arkie0 on 08/05/2020 - 22:36

      You upgraded everything, that would have been expensive as tech fast upgrades don't 'refund' you the price of the part you are upgrading.

      Based on the same deal, this would have costed $3423 ?

      • Danta on 09/05/2020 - 16:35

        Yeah slightly less. But I wanted a premium Pc. If I went to buy my parts individually it would have cost more than the amount O paid Techfast to build it.

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