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Panasonic TH-65GZ1000U $2695.50 + Delivery @ Appliance Central eBay

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Only 8 left but considered that close enough to sufficient quantity considering it's a discontinued unit that lots of people may still want. My (limited) research says this is better for Netflix than the C9 but not future proofed for gaming (Nintendo Switch for me so idgaf) so some may prefer this than the LG and others won't.

Shipping was $120 for me but nobody would beat that for a 65" OLED of any price. Been cheaper before but unlikely to be cheaper again with stock almost all gone in the country.

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  • Shame they don't have any OLEDs smaller than a 65!

    • +1

      Do you mean that all the 55" models are gone?

      • Yes. Appliance online doesn't seem to have any smaller OLEDs on sale.

      • LG have been saying they have a 48 too now, or its coming…

        • Its not coming to Australia in 2020 confirmed by both LG and Sony.

    • They do - the TH-55GZ1000 but it's out of stock and discontinued.

  • +16

    Be very careful when receiving this item. This seller has been the most difficult after sales support I've dealt with.

    My tv was box damaged and I told them straight away by phone and sent pictures via email. Basically told me I probably damaged it myself.

    Will never buy from them again.

    • Was the product damaged? It just a box…

      In future don't accept delivery if see visible damage. Take photo/video.

      • +2

        Do you take delivery often? Boxes often come with cosmetic issues.

        The product was indeed damaged yes. It had damage to the back of the tv by some thin sharp object. Wasn't obvious from outside the box.
        The tv image looks shit in the corner now

        • +3

          Since it’s through eBay you should have been able to claim compensation

        • +1

          If that was case, just open a case up with ebay…. Why brother trying to talk to seller when he clearly not trying to fix the issue.

  • Why better for netflix? C9 gets brighter also and was around ~$2600 delivered a few times.

    • Was but isn't currently. If I could get a C9 for $2600, I would.

      Taken straight from Whirlpool (which is where I've been reading things so might be nonsense or might not be):

      You will get better Auto Brightness Limiter control, Dynamic Tone Mapping and DolbyVision for HDR Netflix usage from the new 2019 Panasonic OLED's vs the LG C9.

      You will also get a Netflix – Calibrated mode on the Panny:

      https://youtu.be/thFm77EqnIc?t=984

      • That applies only if you don't change the pictures settings. Although if you aren't diving into pictures settings on a new tv, then really you don't care THAT much right?

        The C9 speakers seem to be significantly better also, if that helps anyone, removes the need for a soundbar.

        Also considering netflix blurs out content and compresses it, it's not really something to focus on quality for. Also nearly all Netflix originals are stylistically blurred.

        Factor in also, that LG software is by far better. I have all my streaming services available in really good apps, and I can switch between them with a single remote button and they load instantly, compared to pana where they have to reload the app more often than not.

      • -1

        This is not the 2020 model Panasonic.

        What's the point of getting a C9 for its sound, when it's better to have this with an amp and surround sound?

        • You're right. The thread was about the GZ1000 but the video is clearly GZ1500. My bad.

        • Well I guess it's because not everyone needs an amp with surround sound. I'm just saying 99% of people do not have surround sound, and either use a terrible sound bar or built in speakers. The C9 is on the better side of speakers in modern TV's that I've heard. I am in the process of selling my Fidellio soundbar as the TV sound is much more enjoyable. So yea, I'd say it could pay a big deciding factor into peoples choices, given soundbars cost quite a bit.

          • +6

            @onlinepred: Do 99% of people dropping $2700 on a TV seriously not have surround sound? I can understand if you were buying a 55" clunker from Big-W, but if you care enough about visual quality to buy a 65" OLED, surely >50% of that audience will have it hooked up to a half decent sound system?!?

            • @Psomaggi: Recommendations on a sound system for this Pana? That'll be next point of call but wanted to see how I'd go with the native sound first.

              • +2

                @LaHug: Yamaha YSP 2700

              • +2

                @LaHug: Anything other than internal speakers :)

                Seriously, I love an immersive cinema experience. But I'm not an audiophile and don't have a ridiculous 40 speaker setup… just a solid 5.1 setup. A simple 2.1 soundbar is going to give you MUCH better sound than even the very best in-panel speakers though, and you don't have to spend the earth to get that - $300 will have you rockin'. If you can run cables, decent enough surround kits can be had for $500. That's hardly a lot to spend when your set costs $2700.

            • +1

              @Psomaggi: Seriously mate, not many people have surround sound… It often costs more than the TV. If a TV produces good sound, then most have no need to upgrade it. I would estimate most people buy a soundbar because the sound out of the TV is bad. I'm talking about those people, not the ones that have already spent thousands on a surround sound system. Surround sound systems are an extreme minority. I do agree with your generalist sentiment that if you care about picture, surely you care about sound, but there are MANY more aspects to this, like affecting neighbours, rentals, small space, money etc etc.

              Depends on the demographic though, if you are out in the burbs, in a well off area, of course you will see more surround sound systems.

              I remember using my headphones for sound for ages, which to be honest was better than some surround sound systems haha. I think picture is an entirely different thing compared to audio. You can source audio through so many ways, internal speakers, headphones, soundbars, hifi systems, HTIB, custom surround sound systems.

              When I had my custom surround sound system, I didn't even turn it on unless I was watching an action movie.

            • +4

              @Psomaggi: I agree. Someone spending ~2700 on a TV is more likely to spend on amp and speakers. I did.
              I got the tv for about 2620 after Cashback from The Good guys when they had 10% off sale about a month ago. Picked up myself. Just a heads up to anyone who are googling LG vs Panasonic to see which one is better. Those reviewers actually paid extra money to have the LG tvs professionally calibrated. Panasonic is already good out of the box without requiring calibration . If you're after Movies and TV only then Pana is better. For games and HDMI 2.1 you should consider LG

              • +1

                @Rockhard: Those reviewers actually paid extra money to have the LG tvs professionally calibrated.

                Paid off? What reviewers are you talking about?

                Only professional one I'm aware of is Vincent Teoh/HDTV Test. He's about the best, most informative/impartial TV tech person out there. They done a blind shootout between the LG C9, Panasonic GZ2000 (upgraded model), Sony A9G and Samsung Q90. The LG came in first, Panasonic close behind.

                https://youtu.be/Vj_oR91s1BU

                Go to 28:20 if you just want to see the final scores.

                Regardless, the differences between these TVs are tiny in general performance. They're all of exceptional quality (my Panasonic ST60 plasma is still stunning).

                • @Captain Howdy: Not paid off. They had Professional calibrators calibrate the TV to get the best result. Nothing wrong with that. It's just that a normal consumer is unlikely to pay for a professional calibrator to calibrate your panel

                  • @Rockhard: What reviewer?

                    Luckily C9 has semi-calibrated modes built in. It has licensed ISF Light and Dark, which use ISF/Technicolor guidlines, with the goal of achieving industry standard.

                    • @Captain Howdy: The Panasonic also has calibrated modes built in. I have the 55" C9 and the 65" Panasonic, and the 65" definitely has the edge for me.
                      I am a colonist by trade though and am extra picky, either are a great TV though, I'd buy whichever was cheaper, and then add an AppleTV 4K for Netflix and streaming of your UHD rips as it really has the best DV, HDR and Atmos support and is leaps and bounds above in user experience than either TV.

                      The C9 sound isn't better enough in my opinion to worry about, if you want decent sound a 2.1 sound bar kills either set in terms of quality, and honestly, if paying for an OLED, get some decent sound option on top.

                      • @Scrobo: Panasonic has always been my go to (had a V20 and have a ST60 plasma). Rock solid performance and processing (other than the 50hz bug, which I think they still have?). A more utilitarian approach with the lacking UI, but always top-notch picture quality.

                        I’m guessing you mean colourist? I know Panasonic has calibrated modes. I was just pointing out LG has them because the accusation of being paid to be calibrated in comparisons (which I still haven’t seen evidence for) implies that’s the only way they looked good next to Panasonic.

                        It’s interesting hearing your experience though. Have you messed around with a meter or calibrated out of interest?

                        Yeah, thinking of running a Mi Box into the C9. I’m actually one of those people that really likes the LG OS and magic remote pointer. I wonder if in raw visual quality it will have any difference going external? In regards to audio, I know the streaming platforms have compressed forms of surround sound so they can be piped down ARC or optical.

                        Sound on the C9 is pretty good comparatively for a flatscreen. Wallmounted you lose some of that performance because you can’t use sound deflector (bottom-firing speakers). Agree on a soundbar, or better yet a proper receiver.

            • @Psomaggi: Yeah, I wish I could get a high-end tv cheaper by them not putting so much sound technology in it that I will never use. I haven't used an in-built tv speaker for 20 years. Though some models (Sony?) apparently let you use the tv as centre speaker, which in some cases may not be bad.

          • +2

            @onlinepred: Your argument against Netflix and preset calibrations despite them being what 99% of people will use seems a little incongruous with your argument that the better built in speakers matter to 99% of people.

            I also would argue you are actually probably in the minority when it comes to people buying top end OLED TVs and using the built in speakers, even on the C9.

            • +1

              @Arsenal: I do agree with the OLED point though, but at the same accord, many things I watch won't benefit from surround sound, and many of the shows I watch are literally dark. My old man spent $7k on his first plasma TV, so really I see $2.5k an incredible price, it's what I paid for a 1080p mid range series 7 sammy 7 years ago which was shit.

              I setup my picture as I am very picky about picture. I would get a surround sound system but I don't have the space, or the spare money, and I live in a townhouse which means my neighbors would be complaining every time I watched an action movie.

              The question is though, if you had $2500 and a shitty 40inch TV, would you buy a surround sound system for it, or buy a C9 - or buy a shitty new tv and a shitty surround system?

              • @onlinepred: I'd get an OLED and a 2.1 soundbar.

                Surround isn't always feasible in the home, but a decent quality soundbar pretty much always is, and increases the quality of the viewing experience exponentially,

                • @Scrobo: I had a 2.1 soundbar (detachable for 4.1 also), am selling it though as the TV handles dialogue far better, and also has a much more balanced sound output. Most soundbars IMO sound much worse than a simple 2.0 speaker setup (which i will be getting), especially 2.1 soundbars with huge amounts of bass, no stereo seperation and a complete lack of mids as there is literally only tiny speakers - and you can instantly tell a low quality soundbar when you turn the bass up, and hear deep speech coming from the sub haha, ruins pretty much everything. Perhpas if you spend big on a soundbar, then yea it might be better than the C9, but you would be better off getting stereo speakers over a soundbar anyway.

                  Either way, the C9 was a big upgrade in sound for me, over my whatfi 5 star rated soundbar.

      • +2

        One thing to consider in terms of HDR and Netflix is the C9 was stealth updated to include Dolby Vision IQ. People over at AVS forum examined EDID information and consulted insider sources, and this feature was added during a firmware update.

        You can read about it here:

        https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled-technology-flat-panel…

  • anyone can recommend a 4k TV that are for the bedroom? Seems that most of them takes up too much space in the bedroom..

    • +5

      This one. Wall mount it, it's super thin unless you like it super think like my girlfriend does.

      • A lot of ladies like a clever dick I hear.
        =P

      • +4

        Super think?

        • +1

          some prefer brains ….

    • +1

      Agree OLED are super thin, look great wall mounted.

      A bit overkill for the bedroom though! suppose it depends what you have in the main theater/TV room.

      • Never overkill, if you can afford it, do it.

        • If you can afford it, you don't ask questions.

  • +1

    Perfect for watching 4K movies and TV, prefer the LG series myself but these are amazing TVs for this price.

  • but unlikely to be cheaper again with stock almost all gone in the country.

    And Panasonic pulling TVs out of Australia for good.

  • +1

    Or you can't try your local Good Guys, I bought this model from my local on Friday for $2700 Delivered. But not heaps of stock left.

    • +5

      I would recommend this - go to your local.

      I bought from Appliance Central instead of TGG to save $60. Instead I got a painful experience dealing with them after getting a damaged tv on delivery. Might have been couriers fault as they have shit reviews but either way, the buyer (me) is now stuck with a damaged tv and shit experience

      • That sucks and I'm now a little nervous it'll happen to me. Both my local TGG and HN are out of stock of all 65 Pana and LG B9/C9 OLEDs. Tried calling both to get transfer from another store - they were happy to do the price but couldn't get a transfer sorted. I had no option but to wait for a future sale on the CX models (who knows when that'll be?) or jump on this one if I wanted a 65 under $3k. So I jumped.

        But yes, I'd have preferred to go local too!

        • +1

          Scooped up a 65" LG B9 OLED for $2450 last week :)

    • Yeah Good Guys have been great to deal with I bought the LG C9 55" best JB could do was $1998 for the ex-display or $2087 for a brand new one. I called Good Guys told him the situation at JB and he goes I've got 1 left you can have it for $1850 brand new. Thank you very much.

    • Can you please share the receipt? Went into local store today and only got $2850+delivery off them. Would be great to do a price match.

  • +1

    I have this model. Combine with a Dolby Vision or HDR10+ source like the AppleTV, the picture quality, tonal mapping and upscaling are excellent. If you want an OLED for movies, colour accuracy and upscaling get this. If you want a tv for gaming and HDMI 2.1 get an LG C9. I compared the two with some 4K footage the Panasonic just seemed nicer. The C9 supports dynamic refresh rates and newer 2.1 features which will come in handy once the next generation of consoles are out.

    • +1

      Did you tune both TV's before viewing 4k footage? Also what firmware did you test on, C9 has had many huge updates to software processing and HDR support which includes dolby vision now.

      • This (Panny) was the only tv which supported Dolby Vision and HDR10+

        There are videos online which talk about how the Panasonic upscales better and also handles compression and Artifacts better, especially in darker areas of scenes (I upgraded my 4ktv to an OLED for darker scenes!)

        I would recommend comparing the two tvs with a proper 4K Dolby vision or HDR10+ source. Try a newer movie like Venom or Terminator Dark Fate from iTunes or a 4K blu ray.

        I’m very sensitive about the picture quality which is why I was willing to sacrifice newer HDMI 2.1 features inspite of being a regular gamer.

        • Interestingly, the copy of Terminator Dark Fate 4k blurary I have, doesn't even support HDR10+, so the C9 fully supports it's dolby vision and HDR10. I don't believe much is actually in HDR10+ anymore right?

          As far as I know, the only benefits of HDR10+ is higher resolution above 8k, and max brightness support beyond what your tv can even do, of which Dolby Vision is better for anyway. I don't think there is any real benefit for existing 4k TV's. Given dolby vision is better than HDR10+ anyway, and both the C9 and pana support it. And as far as dark screens go, when it's in native 4k, there is no difference between them, except c9 goes brighter right?

    • I too have one and totally agree karankadam. Everyone is different in what they want from the colour of their TV. Though most seem to prefer the natural colours, skin tones etc, especially when forking out the big bucks on an OLED. This is a huge upgrade over my old Sony 8500B. The difference is fantastic. When I bought this at the beginning of the Zombie Apocolypse clamp down, it was $1000 cheaper than the LG, so no contest there. Got it for $2900 delivered. Another reason is that it and no other brand has both Dolby Vision - important to me - and HDR 10+.

      As for the sound, I only have the TV sound on if I'm watching the news or something similar where great sound is not necessary. When it comes to movies - 4k discs etc then the surround sound gets pumped up. With Netflix only streaming at about 2k at best, there is a noticeable difference in the quality of not only the video but the audio as well when playing a disc to streaming. I'm no audiophile, far from it, but the difference is obvious.

      The only minor problem I have is if the TV has a fault and I need to return it to get fixed. If this can't get done then, I suppose I'll get a refund as there won't be any identical models to replace it.

  • +1

    Picked up the ex-display model for this from Costco Marsden Park last week for $2,200. Very happy with it so far. The OS is a little disappointing (some key apps missing. Wish they'd just go for Android or Roku), however I use my Chromecast Ultra for any apps that aren't there. Even the wife said "So this is what you mean when you're always going on about deep blacks of the TV" haha.

  • I agree the OS is a bit lacklustre but get an Amazon 4K fire stick and you’ll be set with all modern formats and apps (using Aptoide)

  • +1

    Ive been hanging out to get a 65" LG c9 at around the $2600 price point but always missed out, now thinking screw it ill settle for any decent 65" for up to $1300 what does everyone recommend, I always have a PC, PS4 and Xbox one connected to the TV and due to this dont really give a dam on the OS just want the best picture and be future proofed for upcoming consoles.

    • Youre not going to get a C9 for that. Why wouldnt you jump on this?

      But, Im in a similar boat to you. Was waiting on a 55" C9 at under $2K, but was in Uncle Gerrys on the weekend & liked the extra size of the 65"s, So I too am looking at a mid-range 65" at around $1.5-1.8K for PS4/5 & desktop media centre.

      • +1

        I was able to score a Sony 65" X95G for about 1850 - very happy with it, playing with my PS4 pro and really enjoying it. Obviously I could have gotten a 55 Oled but I was already on a 55 and wanted bigger but couldn't justify the extra 1k for Oled. If I had the money I'd jump on this or an LG deal.

        • When & where? Can you tell me is the 95G the same tv as the 9500G?

    • I bought the panny yesterday from TGG, picked it up in store.

      And of course, murphy's law, got notification for a carton damaged C9 from factoryplus this morning haha

      But maybe you'd like to grab the C9 since I didn't!
      https://factoryplus.com.au/lg-oled65c9pta-65-164cm-c9-4k-uhd…

      • dont think the ship to melbourne but looking at the warranty from those guys seems a huge risk, eg, you need to ship it back to them for warranty

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