Seagate Exos 16TB Enterprise HDD X16 SATA 6Gb/s 512e/4Kn 7200 RPM 256MB Cache 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST16000NM001G
Coming to $686.02 delivered to Sydney. Probably same everywhere else.
Never used this drive, but the specs look good. Bought one for my NAS.
Much better pricing than local pricing.
Do companies still use traditional hard drives?
Yes.
And tape is still very popular because of price.
Disks are RAD, tapes are SAD. Quite alright for back-ups and imaging, but not as entertaining to watch now we don't use banks of 10" reels…
I can't imagine Amazon, Microsoft, Google all using Exabytes of SSD storage for their cloud services. Can you?
Not available now and also this link is Pre Covid i.e. the prices have generally gone up since.
This is tempting, 6 of these would be nice for a 80TB NAS
Is 80 a limit? Doesn't 6 x 16tb = 96tb?
You lose 1 disks worth for parity in RAID5 or RAIDZ 1
You lose 6 disks buying Seagate
@fluberries: I have probably 6x Seagate/Samsung HDD's, not one has failed over the 6 years I've been using them.
In that same period I've had about 4x WD HDD's handed to me by friends/family asking whether I can fix or recover anything from them.
Small sample pool, but tbh, I'll be sticking with Seagate until further notice.
@HiredGoon: I think this issue comes up over and over.
If you look at Backblaze…. both WD and Seagate have had issues on various drives over the years. But still the failure rates are very small 1% or 2%.
https://www.backblaze.com/b2/hard-drive-test-data.html
There's also other factors like heat, vibration, spin up count, always on, quality of power supply etc etc which varies from PC to PC.
In summary it's really just pot luck whatever brand you choose. Everyones experience varies.
@Skramit: HGST or Toshiba (or an enterprise WD/Seagate such as this Exos) if you want to step up in reliability (and price)
Not sure I'd want to risk so much data with only 1 parity disk though.
I suppose it depends on what you're storing. If it's just p0rn and downloaded TV/Movies, it might be ok, but if it's critical business stuff, having the extra disk might be a good idea.
Really? Keep a spare on hand not enough?
Taking two drives out of a piddly 4 bay nas (which most here would have) leaves no space
Taking two drives out of a piddly 4 bay nas (which most here would have) leaves no space
The guy was talking 6 drives, so they don't have a 4 bay. 1 drive from 4 is probably OK. 1 from 6 is starting to push the friendship.
@photonbuddy: True. But youre still spending $2100 to only get 16tb when you go from 3+1 (my seutp) to 4+2 (his).. that kills me.
I think one parity drives fine for most users. Id concentrate extra redundancy (and associated costs) on automated off site backups rather than over investing in on prem. That’s assuming we’re talking home use or very small business.
depends on how long it take to replace it
i run single parity raid setups now with no issues with 6 drives in each and 1 ssd cache drive
5 and a parity
This looks like a good hard drive, as it does not use the slow (and controversial) shingled magnetic recording (SMR)
Avoid WD Red drives for this reason, but this particular drive is good!
Only the 6TB and below WD reds use shingling. higher capacities are ok.
And not all Reds under 6TB are SMR….. WDx0EFRX are not SMR where as WDx0EFAX are SMR.
I bought a bunch of the older generation model (Exos X14) last year, no issues so far. These drives run pretty hot though.
Did I read somewhere that enterprise drives continue on their merry way when a consumer drive would error out? Meaning you can lose data integrity and not know
it is enterprise level so i guess it is not SMR then?
I got one of this when it was ~ $630 with Amazon, so I can chime in my experience:
It is LOUD (expected being an enterprise drive). If you have it sitting in a NAS/Computer next to you, you will definitely notice when it's being read/written to. So don't put it in a computer close to your workspace / bed.
Thanks for this feedback, exactly why I will not buy one then :D
Does it run hot? Thanks
Nah it does not. It runs pretty cool and I have a pretty standard cooling setup.
10 and 12TB better value