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Sunbeam Specialty Brew 8100 $74.25 (RRP $99) Delivered @ Myer

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Folks, just thought that some of you might like this.

I was on the hunt for a drip filter coffee machine and, yes, we know what many people think of them, but there is a convenience, and the better ones make at least a half decent coffee. So, anyway, I had found that the Sunbeam Specialty Brew (PC8100) had plenty of positive reviews, a good feature set, and wasn't priced too badly (less than $100).

I did a search for it today and found that Myer's has them on sale for $74.25, which is just lower than the next model down, with free delivery on anything over $50. Seemed like something worth sharing.

(My first post, so be gentle)

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  • The only drip filter brewer even worth considering is a Moccamaster.

    • +3

      I've heard good things about them. Would have to try and get a tasting of one as well as the top of the range Breville unit. But, if I'm dropping $400+ on a coffee machine, I'm probably heading down the path of an espresso machine.

      So many vices, so little time … we won't start on the money side.

    • +1

      In my experience the Behmor Brazen, and the Breville Precision Brewer are better than Moccamaster. The Moccamaster certainly has darling status amongst those that love Iphones and similar, but technically the others do the important things better.

      Behmor makes best coffee, but has a smaller capacity than the Breville. The Breville doesn't do as well with smaller brews than 100g coffee grounds/1.5L h20, so that might work in your favour.

      I feel like I can comment on this with some authority, as I have tried them all in my cafe.

      • -7

        Actually if your using any domestic machine in a cafe, I say you have zero authority. Cafes should be using a Fetco, Bunn or Similar.

        Would you use a breville for espresso in a cafe?

        • +2

          What a stupid thing to say… Can you tell me why I would be better off using one of the machines you reference? What exactly does it do better?

          FYI the lil suburb my cafe is located had never heard of batch brew. A 1.2L pot on the Behmor was perfect as it made amazing coffee, and multiple fresh batches a day was VASTLY superior to the alternative.

          I know of far bigger cafes than mine using these machines to this day, making very very good coffee, and there is a reason.

          Over to you mate.

          • +2

            @kevitkotw: I’m with Kev on this.

            I’ve been in coffee 8+ years both as a barista and a coffee roaster and have used the lot.

            There is absolutely no need to go out and spend a huge amount on a bun or a fetco. Yes they are great machines but unless your doing litres and litres of batch every hour it’s just over kill?

            To quote Scott Rao “ For great batch brew, it’s important to brew smaller batches more often to maximize integrity”

            Both Behmor and Breville will give the Moccamasters a run for its money as far as features and temperature control / stability too.

            I would highly recommend you watch James Hoffman’s review of the Breville also known as the sage in the uk. I’m sure it will give your more than enough info

            • @Bmoney: The Behmor makes the best batchy out of these 3 imo. If I had to guess why, it has to do with the temp stability of heating all the water up before brewing as opposed to thermoblock tech.

              Thermoblocks (In the Moccamaster and the Breville) are notorious for not maintaining super accurate temps.

    • I would disagree, I own a Moccamaster. It's a beautiful machine, by far the best looking and the only one my wife would let me keep on the kitchen bench.

      However, it does feel like a very dated machine. Its claim to fame is being able to maintain consistent water temperature, and that's all it does really. There's only basically an on and off switch. Brewing for half batches is very manual, evenly wetting the coffee grinds requires manually jiggling of the filter, and the shower head needs a better design.

      I would hope that other companies have caught up to the Moccamaster. But i wish they could make theirs as pretty…

      • Moccamasters wins the award for the prettiest machine that’s for sure

  • +2

    How much coffee do you usually drink for it to be worth getting one? I kinda like the idea of drip coffee but don't think I could consume that much.

    • Over a day, and with the other people in the house … I don't think I'll be doing 12 a day, but I'll be enjoying having a cup or two ready in the morning.

      • Damn that's a lot, I'm making max 2 a day. I think aeropess/chemex is good enough for me.

    • +1

      If you have a grinder, chamex or v60 works fine. Daiso have plastic ones for cheap

      • I have an aeropress and a grinder, and I do enjoy a good cup of coffee with them. It's just that, first thing in the morning, when I'm all bleary eyed and don't want to mess around with all the steps involved, at that point, a half decent cup will keep me happy. Oh, and a follow up or two a bit later would be great.

        As for a chemex or v60? I'd be up for a chemex flask, scales, filters … yeah, i'll probably be getting them later, but I'm happy with this for now.

        • Aeropress is overrated imo, unless you're going camping.

    • Old people love these machines, good if you have old people visiting on weekends. We had one out as a old lady would visit, once she stopped visiting we threw it out (we have a Vittoria and Vertuo machine, so always get cheap pods when on sale).

      • I've had one before. Long enough ago, so I'd be probably showing myself as a bit, uhhhh, "old", but it did make a decent cup. And, do recall seeing a video on YouTube with James Hoffman confessing his guilty pleasure of rarely actually using an espresso machine at home. He uses the high end Breville unit (similar price point to the Moccamaster).

        And I do have a Nespreesso Vertua-line. That makes a really decent cup, but you are restricted to where you can buy pods from. While I have found a "fill your own" pod for them, they're nearly as expensive as the Sunbeam.

    • +1

      It drips from here too! https://www.viet-coffee.com.au/xcart/product.php?productid=2… not affiliated, random google but not ebay or Amazon.

      Not a huge coffee drinker so I don't know how this compares to other things. I should be using coarse ground but don't have a grinder and Oro was half off at the other week

      • lol yup, I have one of them as well … you really need to make sure you have the proper Vietnamese coffee and sweetened condensed milk :)

  • +2

    Breville BCM600 or this one?

    • Wait for Breville Precision to some on special for $199.

      • If you see the Breville Precision drop below $200, please tag me

  • This link is worth a read, paper filtered coffee is way to go according to science.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200422214101.h…

    • James Hoffman does admit to using paper filters with his Breville Prevision, so there must be something to it … just removes the bitter oils etc I guess

  • I'm curious how there can be much difference between drip coffee filter machines, don't they all just run boiling water over coffee which is sitting in a paper filter? Where is the variation?

    • +1

      Some use paper and others have their own filter that you wash… I just have one I picked up at aldi about 10years ago on clearance coz no one wanted them and I think it is great.. only issue is the lid you put on the glass for pouring… But as far as I understand it is just a heating element boiling water sending it up a pipe onto the coffee grounds that filters through… I think choice of coffee makes the biggest difference

    • +2

      Probably the 2 biggest factors are temperature stability/consistency, and the ability to wet the coffee bed the most evenly, in other words extract the coffee evenly.

      Regarding the second part (wet the bed jokes aside) there isn't really a mechanical system that does this affordably yet. This is why a well made V60/Chemex etc can be tastier than the batch brewer.

    • Coffee that has water passed through it once, tastes much different and has less caffeine, than coffee that has water passed through it several times. It's all down to subjective taste and how much of a kick you're looking for.

      I'm gonna stick to paper filtered coffee, like the science suggests, either way.

      • But filter machines still only pass the water through once. You're basically just saying you want over-extracted coffee.

        That said, I wasn't trying to debate the merits of espresso Vs filter as I have a strong opinion on this - but it's just an opinion. I was just wondering what the difference in different filter machines was.

        • +1

          I'm just commenting for sake of interest, related info etc.

          Yeah, for most people it would just come down to taste. I prefer less caffeine, as I'm caffeine sensitive.

  • +1

    I've got this machine. I got it from Myer on a bit cheaper of a special, but it's great even at this price.
    I set it up the night before using the timer so I don't need to use the grinder and wake up everyone, its really great waking up to the smell of brewing coffee.

    Will other machines work better? Maybe,but they will also be significantly more expensive.

    • +1

      That's one of the reasons that I went with the 8100, and the sale settled it. Just being able to grind some beans the night before, fill the tank, and set the timer, knowing that I'll walk into a coffee smelling kitchen with a hot mug ready to go (my coffee mug is literally pint sized)

      • +1

        Yeah, the only issue I have is that it has a decalcification filter and sunbeam don't sell replacements. I can find similar shaped ones online but need to drop $30 to try them, and it'd be a massive waste if they don't fit…

        • Yeah, I noticed it had a water filter. I guess I'll be starting the hunt in a couple of days :)

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