Not content with having the ScoMo knowing your movements via the Covid-Safe App? Why not give Jeff Bezos access to all of your visitors too!
Thanks to CamelCamelCamel for the heads up.
CamelCamelCamel.
you can get 20% off, if you buy it with an amazon echo
Yep effectively $3 extra for an echo dot
Not content with having the ScoMo knowing your movements via the Covid-Safe App? Why not give Jeff Bezos access to all of your visitors too!
Lol you joke, but I know people who object to the COVIDsafe app but have full smart home setups. Ironic!
Bezos is the last person the fools buying this should worry about, Ring grants access to law enforcement ie. the government, without warrants. It's literally Big Brother.
Oh and anybody else LMAO
Yup. If you get any internet connected surveillance, I'd be strategically angling the cameras to not be recording living areas, bedrooms etc. Just point them at things like courtyards, entrances etc that people can technically walk up and see into anyways.
Did you even read the article?! Is a US based article, and reliant on users giving public access to the feeds. Any hacking is due to user not setting up correctly.
Yes
“Ring does not make it clear to its users that this information is being shared with third parties nor who those companies are. It also doesn’t allow them to opt out of the data collection”
or, you know… read the article
Users opt in to have their streams shared with the 'neighbors' section, which essentially is people opting in to share their streams
You and Rumbaar are confusing two different levels of access. One is where the owner opts in to grant access to others. The other, is included in the terms of service that a user automatically agrees to.
by purchasing or using our Products and Services, you give Ring the right, without any compensation or obligation to you, to access and use your Content for the limited purposes of providing Services to you, protecting you, improving our Products and Services, developing new Products and Services, and as otherwise set forth in our Privacy Notice.
The below paragraph refers to the opt-in option:
Additionally, by electing to publicly share your Content via our Services to other users or the general public , in addition to the license granted above, you give Ring the right, without any compensation or obligation to you, to access and use your Content and related location information for the purposes of publicly sharing such recordings and information with current and future users and allowing those users to comment on the Content.
More about automatic granting of access:
In addition to the rights granted above, you also acknowledge and agree that Ring may access, use, preserve and/or disclose your Content to law enforcement authorities, government officials, and/or third parties, if legally required to do so or if we have a good faith belief that such access, use, preservation or disclosure is reasonably necessary to:
(a) comply with applicable law, regulation, legal process or reasonable preservation request; (b) enforce these Terms, including investigation of any potential violation thereof; (c) detect, prevent or otherwise address security, fraud or technical issues; or (d) protect the rights, property or safety of Ring, its users, a third party, or the public as required or permitted by law.
And if that wasn't enough:
Deleted Content and User Recordings may be stored by Ring in order to comply with certain legal obligations and are not retrievable without a valid court order.
@kahn: You don't know where 99% of your data is shared with, just ask your electricity provider who they share it with.
Or publish their entirely life on Facebook whilst complaining about COVIDSafe "tracking" them
Or people who have full Xiaomi setups for anything wi-fi. But damned if they are going to let the Australian government see a couple of borked BT handshakes.
So everything else internet bad, but Covid app good? I guess unique bluetooth device mac addresses and interactions with google play services etc don't matter? And also the notion of an entire population perceiving downloading a govt tracking app a good thing to 'flatten the curve' and 'get back to your old life', therefore would be more welcoming of any further measures they decide to impose down the track. Pretty dumb.
So everything else internet bad, but Covid app good?
No.
therefore would be more welcoming of any further measures they decide to impose down the track.
No.
Pretty dumb
Yes you have drawn a pretty dumb conclusion, agreed.
why did you sign up on ozb, only to preach about covid app and your conspiracy theories? Take a walk mate, this is a bargain site, not facebook
i hope that while stalking my ring doorbell, jeff would be kind enough to shout to the auspost contractor "DON'T YOU DARE THROW MY EFF'ING DELIVERY!!!!"
kind enough to shout to the auspost contractor
"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid you can't do that…"
JV, you need to go outside and talk to the Ring 2…
They escape and ran before you can shout. They are quicker than your so call cameras.
If no subscription any feature works?
Yeah, just can’t access previous recordings
Is it just Amazon Prime?
ring.com
Ring is owned by Amazon I believe but only limitation is that it only (& frustratingly) works in Amazon smart home ecosystem, you'll need a ring account and to link that to Amazon smart devices if you got them..
@FishVille: Unfortunately they both refuse to colab with each other being the top 2 smart device providers…
Ring Doorbell requires an active internet connection. Your internal ring chime must be downloading sound files from the cloud? lol
Ring pulls down the server, and you have one ugly eyesore next to your front door.
Ring won’t be pulling the server wtf
Someone living in the sticks who uses wireless internet can have their connection lost to bushfire.
Fireman rings your doorbell that's lost its connection online and senior at the back of their home hears no bell 'cause the damn thing is offline.
OOOPS!!!
I use it without sub and remote view/intercom work fine, alerts work fine.. Just no recording as others mention..
if it was just scomo wanting to know my movements well I'm very regular.
sadly jokes aside the current Australian government will allow anyone to know your movements in any number of countries..
And you voted for this if you voted Labor or Liberal. There was an alternative but you chose to be China while pretending Australia isn't like that.
Better throw away any data enabled mobile phone you carry with you constantly, if that concerns you.
and avoid CCTV, toll roads, public transport, private paid transport, electronic transactions and a variety of other things.
It is actually pretty hard to not get tracked down.
so your point is do nothing, suck it up and surrender every bit of privacy you have left - like who visits you?
so your point is do nothing
No
suck it up and surrender every bit of privacy you have left
No
like who visits you?
No. But seriously, I have nothing to hide and if some contact tracer asked me who visited me I'd 100% truthfully tell them. Would you?
And if you are going to say "of course" then maybe ask yourself why you don't want some authority knowing who visited you? What do you have to hide? Don't give me the right to privacy spiel. That is all fine and we all want that, but I think in the use case for COVID-19 it is handy to have these app in play incase I "forget" someone I've been in contact with or maybe I was in contact with someone I was unaware of that could be the carrier that is flagged down and isolated before they infect more people. That could literally save lives.
@serpserpserp: you say no but then you say yes.
ok you don't care about anyone else's privacy - and this won't save anyone life.
you say no but then you say yes.
No I didn't do that at all.
ok you don't care about anyone else's privacy
No.
and this won't save anyone life.
How do you know?
@serpserpserp: bait away - its a video doorbell remember? you think lifeguards should get them as preservers?
@serpserpserp: bait away - its a video doorbell remember? you think lifeguards should get them as preservers?
@serpserpserp: @serpserpserp: bait away - its a video doorbell remember with an online connection ? you think lifeguards should get them as preservers?
Lol I'm not getting one but voting just for the OP's comments!
Isn't it interesting that all the other comments so far are from people who didn't vote on this deal?
No it isn't. Happens in every deal thread.
Can these stream live video to Google Home?
To do that you probably need to look at the Nest Doorbell.
Only to Echo (it's Amazon owned) or the Ring app on your phone
It can live stream to your phone or PC for about 10 min at a time. Quality is much better than my Arlo pro….
I remember these on Sharktank.
Haha same, and they missed out on the deal!
I'm waiting, thanks!
Plus the chime for $29
Yep, its up for pre-sale now for $149.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Ring-Video-Doorbell-1080p-HD-Video…
Generation
Ring Video Doorbell 2nd Generation – new release.
This item will be released on June 3, 2020.
If you combine with an echo then essentially the echo is free + free delivery
IF you don't want to pay for monthly subscriptions to store the recordings here are alternatives:
Skybell HD, EUFY smart video doorbell and yet release netatmo video doorbell
Which ones of those have a door release (electric strike) function?
Get one. Thanks OP..
Not sure how much difference with Gen 3. but considering the price..bought this one.
My friend told me gen 1 bit slow and not very clear.
I have 4 of these ring 2.
They are all bad design. Recording lags via the internet. Yes I have places and all with different internet modems. So you can't blame the modem. What pisses me off so much is 2 weeks ago,one of my ring disappeared from the app so I tried to add it into the account again. I scanned the barcode and it says this device has been registered with someone. I spent half a day trying to sort it out. You name it, I tried contact ring but there is no way to do so in Australia. I tried uninstall and reinstall a few times. I tried to read up on this issue but no info. So sadly I gave up. It's very complicated once you have a problem and no help. Also be aware ring does not have an sd card slot, you must be force to subscribe and that's $40 a year if you want to be able to view you history of who has been at you place. It's pretty much useless if you don't subscribe. I absolutely regret getting so many rings for my properties. They are not cheap for not being able to record without subscription. I'm very disappointed. I bought a eufy 3 camera unit and it kicks rings ass in terms of performance. Do not get yourself into my situation!
I contacted ring without issue after i forgot what email i used for the account.
$204.25 here https://www.tobydealsau.com/en_AU/product/ring-video-doorbel…
I also remember seeing it for around $150 on the official website but can't find it anymore
https://www.amazon.com.au/Ring-Video-Doorbell-1080p-HD-Video…
It looks like it is re-released on June 3rd for $149. Preorders available now.
I'd order the "new ring" which from specs appears to be a gen 2 …
This is re-released on Jun 03 for $149, much cheaper.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Ring-Video-Doorbell-1080p-HD-Video…
Generation
Ring Video Doorbell 2nd Generation – new release.
Was about to pull the trigger on the 3 but from what I can see there is no huge advantage and the price saving means I don't feel so "invested" if next year is a big step up in video quality
Same price at Bunnings?