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Great cpu for everything however 4th gen launch is imminent
I wouldn't say the 4th gen launch is imminent - most sources seem to think it'll be launched late September. Then you'll have to wait for availability (at reasonable prices) so it'll probably be 5-6 months before you can get hold of a 4000 series.
I would not be surprised if AMD pushed it back given how lacklustre Intel 10th gen is.
When people say 4th gen is coming out soon I thought they meant in a week or two. 6 months… That's half a year wait.
6 months… That's half a year
6 months… That's half a year
Thanks Captain obvious ;)
@miarn: Sounded way better in my head before I typed it out.
Yes but they are doing a refresh of the 3000 line up rumoured to come around June. So 4th gen might not be around the corner but that certainly is.
Also waiting for 4th gen might open up its own can of worms
4th gen most likely won’t have ddr5 support but 5th gen might which might mean you need a new board anyway.
@GossipGoat: So should we wait for the new board that have ddr5 to come out then wait for 5th gen to come out too?
What's the advantage in that? Intel still holds the advantage in gaming (albeit at a price premium) and if they're ready to go with Zen 3 they may as well drive the stake a bit further into Intel's chest.
Only at the top end (and I wonder how many people are still on the intel train just for the slight FPS improvements at that high-end level). In the mid-range, the Ryzen 3300X and 3600 still reign supreme.
@xyron: It also doubles down as a space heater , can you really put value on that?
@GossipGoat: My how the AMD/Intel tables have turned. We were making these jokes about Bulldozer in 2011!
@xyron: The new i5 10600K is a beast of a processor, especially when overclocked. Pricing should be on par with a 3600X or a 3700X if AMD keeps cutting down the pricing but the 10600K still beats out its competition in gaming by a fair margin.
I'd still go AMD for mixed workloads but Intel is still king for pure gaming.
@pawan1993: 4% better (than the 3600X) on average at 1440p: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10600k/16.h...
Less than 2% better (than the 3600X) on average at 4K: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10600k/17.h...
and to get it, you need to spend not only more on the CPU but more on the motherboard too.
I can't argue that 10th gen isn't better than Ryzen 3rd gen at gaming, but at the mid-range it's not by much (and I'd wager most people wouldn't even notice the marginal improvement), and you have to pay more for it.
@xyron: Take a look at the GN video on overclocking the 10600K. They found that OC'ing the cache memory gives even more of a benefit for very little time investment.
You can see a 7% improvement on even the 3700X at worst and 15-20% improvement on the 3700X at best. Like I said, this is just for gaming at current price points. If you have any other mixed tasks that don't rely on higher core clocks then going Ryzen is a no-brainer. But at this price point, just for gaming, the 10600K is incredible value.
I don't disagree that Intel 10th gen is terrible value at other price points. 3300X kills lower end i5s for value and the 10900K offers no benefit on the 10600K for gaming while the 3900X is significantly better than the i9 chip for mixed loads. I'm just making the point that for pure gaming workloads, the 10600K is just unbeatable for the price.
@pawan1993: No 3700X overclocked figures in there for relevance which is a shame (Steve "Tech Jesus" is usually my go-to for benchmark info), but I'll admit those OCs are impressive.
But if we're talking OC figures, you need to add at least another $50 for a decent cooler, and that isn't even taking into account extra power consumption.
I'm no fanboy, I piled on the hate for Bulldozer and Piledriver back in the day (and while my main rig is a Ryzen, my secondary-rig/couch gaming ITX PC is a 6700K). But statements like "best for gaming" really are meaningless when we're talking about the margins we're talking about, the areas where it's happening (typically only in tests returning 130+ FPS on both platforms) and when we're not taking into account the extra costs of going with Intel (including an inevitable lack of forward compatibility).
@pawan1993: 10th gen is meh based on the reviews
Edit: Auto-numbering has overwritten my bullet point numbers but you probably get the point.