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Raspberry Pi 4 2GB $67.73, Raspberry Pi 4 4GB $92.40 Delivered @ element14

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Element 14 has the Raspberry Pi 4 2gb back in stock for $67.73 which is slightly higher than pre COVID but still excellent value. The 4gb model is overkill for lots of basic applications so this allows you to get a reasonably powerful device for $25 cheaper than the 4gb version. Element14 has free shipping but it can take a while longer than Australian local stock. My Home-Assistant automation server with Adguard and around 50 devices connected uses only 550mb of memory on my Pi so 2gb is fine.

4gb version is also available for $92.40
8gb version is currently sold out.

You'll need a 3A USB-C power supply if you don't have one and microHDMI adapter to connect it to a screen if desired.

Info

Raspberry Pi 4 Model B is the latest product in the popular Raspberry Pi range of computers. It offers ground-breaking increases in processor speed, multimedia performance, memory and connectivity compared to the prior-generation Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+, while retaining backwards compatibility and similar power consumption. For the end user, Raspberry Pi 4 Model B provides desktop performance comparable to entry-level x86 PC systems. This product's key features include a high-performance 64-bit quad-core processor, dual-display support at resolutions up to 4K via a pair of micro-HDMI ports, hardware video decode at up to 4Kp60, 2GB of RAM, dual-band 2.4/5.0GHz wireless LAN, Bluetooth 5.0, Gigabit Ethernet, USB 3.0 and PoE capability (via a separate PoE HAT add-on). The dual-band wireless LAN and Bluetooth have modular compliance certification, allowing the board to be designed into end products with significantly reduced compliance testing, improving both cost and time to market.

Broadcom BCM2711, quad-core Cortex-A72 (ARM v8) 64-bit SoC @ 1.5GHz
2GB LPDDR4 SDRAM
2.4GHz and 5.0GHz IEEE 802.11b/g/n/ac wireless LAN, Bluetooth 5.0, BLE
True Gigabit Ethernet
2x USB 3.0 ports, 2x USB 2.0 Ports
Fully backwards compatible 40-pin GPIO header
2x Micro HDMI ports supporting up to 4K 60Hz video resolution
2-lane MIPI DSI/CSI ports for camera and display
4-pole stereo audio and composite video port
MicroSD card slot for loading operating system and data storage

Requires 5.1V, 3A power via USB-C or GPIO
PoE (Power over Ethernet) enabled (requires PoE HAT)
This is part of Father's Day deals for 2020.

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  • Do you have to pretend it's for business use to not get redirected?

    • Yep, But once you're on their site it doesn't ask/care about your address or require a company of anything

      • Thanks. This model seems to be the sweet point for a LibreElec box I'm thinking.

        • +1

          Yep runs great in it and use do ker for any other services like pihole etc

    • +1

      Yes, but you don't need to add any ABN. Just click business, pay by credit card.

  • I run Home Assistant in Docker on Ubuntu with a bunch of other containers (e.g. Unifi Controller) and also sit at around 500mb usage. Of course, I'm on a NUC with 12GB ram, but you can obviously get away with a small amount of ram for that kind of setup.

    • I use a similar system with 8GB ram. (J-1800)
      I find it curious the TDP for the Pi4 is much higher… Celeron-J for instance is usually 8/10W now

      • +1

        The RPi4 is derivative of the RPi's that came before it (not saying that negatively). Comparatively, the RPi (and its subsequent variants) kicked ass in TDP, but Intel et al have upped their game (especially in recent years) which is why the comparison isn't so favorable these days.

  • +1

    Want to try a piece of Pi to see what the hype's about. How's the 2GB version as a daily PC for my pop? He'll just be using YouTube, emails and web browsing.

    • I'd avoid it honestly. 2GB doesn't really cut it for a smooth desktop experience, and the 4GB isn't that much more expensive.

      Even so, YouTube playback can be pretty ordinary on the Pi.

      • I paid $60 for the 2GB vs $92 for the 4GB so that's more than 50% more for the 4GB.
        I did not intend to use it as daily pc though - so 2GB for headless and occasional vnc is sufficient for me.
        I have good experience with element14 - fast shipping.

        • If you make a realistic comparison (i.e. the prices in this deal) it's less of a difference.

          Also I agree that 2GB is perfectly adequate for headless use, but in my experience (owning both 2GB and 4GB Pi 4s) the extra RAM is beneficial when you're running a graphical desktop.

          I've also bought from e14 before and had a good experience :)

          • @miarn: I was doubting to go for the 4GB version with the package deal from amazon.
            But I still have a RPi3, RPi3+, 2x zero w and a RPi2. (And 2 RPi3+ that don't seem to boot anymore).

            I'm not sure why the price of the 2GB was jacked, given the AU$ has been getting stronger.
            (I commented that it was available again but at higher price a week ago).

          • @miarn: If you’re running docker…. the memory becomes useful for more containers

      • +4

        I should add that if you're after a small, simple, relatively low-cost desktop you're probably best off going with a refurbished SFF Optiplex, NUC, Lenovo Tiny etc.

        • Yeah, I did consider that, but many of them are Haswell based which essentially makes them 6 to 7 years old and possibly running 24/7 in an office or school environment. Wanted to try something brand new.

          • +1

            @hexapling: Old hardware doesn't imply bad but.

            I forgot which generation it was (4th or 5th I think), but anything that gen or newer is comparable for a home server if you're not trying to be frugal in running cost. Yes you can cut the TDP with current gen, but you'll pay for it vs picking up cheap second-hand/refurbs.

            Hell you can find plenty of Proliant & PowerEdge on Gumtree. Just enjoy that power bill!

            • @Chandler: I have tried Lenovo Tiny on 4th, 6th and 8th gen Intel i5s. They all idle at similar 10watts, so not a lot of improvement over the years….

          • +2

            @hexapling: Those 7 years pc still wins over these arm board if you need anything to do with regular graphic interface. One of the issue with pi is micro sd/usb reliability being no where good as regular hard drive, particularly ssd. I've 3 microsd died on me over the last 2 years and if youre complacent about backong up get the thing back to normal can be a pain

          • @hexapling: I used to run Home Assistant on a RPi3 and every time applying a change that requires a full reboot it takes like 2+ minutes. Changing to a SFF x86 Haswell with a SSD means it fully boots up in sub 30 seconds. If you are developing something then this will save a lot of time. But if your applications require minimal config then a Pi is great.

            For a GUI desktop you will still get much better experience with even a Haswell. Also running in SD card is a relatively significant handicap compared to a SSD.

            Also note a Lenovo Tiny idles at around 10watts at the wall. Pi4 is indicated around 3.5watts by web.

    • more than fine.
      For netflix I had to up the gpu memory, in the 3

    • +2

      While the pi can run desktop, it's not really what makes people exited about it.

    • Would suggest a low end NUC would be better

      • Depends on usage really.

    • +1

      Thanks for everyone's feedback. We'll be getting a used Broadwell/Skylake PC instead.

      • Pi is still great fun to tinker around though. Just know that it may not be the best for general desktop use - Pi GPU really holds it back for good video playback experience if you go 1080p+. Wish they could make some improvement on that.

    • Would he be ok using Linux or is Windows a better idea?

  • How's video playback experience on these?

  • if im trying to build a nas should i get 2gb or 4gb ram?

    • 2GB is plenty if you're not running a GUI.

  • Pi-hole or AdGuard?

    Also what other uses are there for a Pi apart from pi-hole and homeassist?

    • +1

      Retropie, Plex media server, web server.

    • +2

      I have a Pi4 running Pihole, Nextcloud, plex server, PiVPN, and transmission.

      A 3B+ running OSMC + SteamLink.

      A Pi Zero W providing remote control for my garage door.

      A Pi 1 running as a print "server" for a non-networked printer.

    • +1

      Retropie! I made a letterbox notifier that will email me when I receive a real letter so I know to check it.

      • How do you power the letterbox pi? I've wanted to do a similar thing

        • My guess is a powerbank?

          • @xoom: Either that or a solar panel, and hope they only get mail on sunny days :D

        • Another option is just wireless sensors in your letter box, and there’s a few options that might be viable, either pressure or optical based. Depending what you get they’ll likely run off a battery for a year or so. Reception to your mailbox may be an issue depending on your place.

    • +2

      If you are running home assistant, then there’s a supported AdGuard addon available which makes setup a breeze. They have depreciated the PiHole addon.

      I’ve used both and find them largely interchangeable. I wasn’t using the DHCP servers though.

  • Damn that's a good price!

  • Anyone upgrading and want to sell me their pi 3? 🙂

  • Thanks, I've been meaning to get one to tinker with some projects I think will run better and cheaper than on an old clunker PC.

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