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The Biostar EXTREME Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB features a 1795 MHz clock, 8GB GDDR6 256-bit memory interface, 1 x HDMI 2.0, 3 x DisplayPort 1.4, OpenGL 4.6 and DirectX 12 support. Also supporting a boost frequency up to 1905MHz.

With 3 powerful fans to promote cooling and boost your gaming performance. The Biostar r EXTREME is a top choice for your next GPU. With a strong backplate and the support for the latest technology, EXTREME will be able to power your next gaming experience flawlessly.

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  • Warranty?

    • +2

      I've updated the listing,

      Warranty is three years

      OP

    • +2

      Gotta hijack this top comment, avoid this if you remotely care about noise. I've got nothing against you guys CGB, I love your work, but I would not buy this particular 5700 XT model. So many screw ups that run 100c VRAM, or really high hotspot temps. My MSI MECH OC, a big brand name, runs at 105c hotspot without an undervolt and spins 3000rpm. I RMA'd the card, and oops I guess it's just a widespread issue. I'd look into the Sapphire Pulse, PowerColor Red Dragon, MSI Gaming X or Gigabyte Gaming OC (Windforce is shit) if you don't want a jet engine next to you.

      • Fellow nerd here.

        This is a new model, where did you find hotspot testing results?

        I have plenty of thermal pads I can use to modify the cooling of the vram. Just trying to see what I might be in for.

        • -2

          I didn't, but I'm always weary of these different models. I wouldn't take the chance when it only costs like $30 more to get a reliable and quiet one. If you want to go for this, you'll probably have to repaste it, redo that pads unless they're already good and maybe use washers to increase mounting pressure, or you could just be pleasantly surprised. You shouldn't have to do this shit and void your warranty though, I've seen the U.K. deals going around for less and there's currently the XFX Triple Dissipation (I trust it more, but I still don't trust it because it isn't the THICC III) for like $560.

          • +3

            @Void: Luckily as an Aussie, modifying a card, so long as its not the PCB wont affect my warranty so thats ok.

            Regardless,

            My gut is telling me that since the heat issues were so well known by all. To the extent that a huge company like ASUS had a genuine recall; that any new design will take this into account heavily.

            3 fans, broad heatsink, and hopefully a better firmware level power managment would be VERY cheap to acomplish to achieve a late-entrant to the sales market, a top podium position.

            Might jump onto Baidu and see if there are any assembly pics…

            • @MasterScythe: WAIT IT DOESN'T?! So you're saying I can remove the warranty void sticker on my 5700 with no repercussions?

              • +1

                @Void: The sticker gives the comapny a way to argue that you modified and therefore damaged the device.

                The sticker itself does not provide a warranty.

                You can expect a shitfight from the manufacturer if you need to warranty it, however if they cant prove you damaged it, the ACCC will still have your back.

                Just be sure to "return it to stock" before sending it in.

                And remove the sticker fully, claim ignorance (it never had one).

                Its worth reading you waranty rights on the ACCC website, we as Aussies pay more for products, for a LOT of protection.

                • @MasterScythe: Or keep the sticker and put it back on ;)

                  • @Void: Yes, I have a few rolls of new ones just to avoid the argument.

                    Only reliable way to remove them IMO is steaming, and even though water is harmless to a non-powered card, it still makes my testes tingle.

                    That said; I've been doing IT admin and custom builds for about 15 years; for devices with non-moving parts (besides fans) the failure rate, outside of DOA is absolutely miniscule. I've never cared.

                    That said, the most expensive card I've ever bought was about $600, I might care more if I was buying things like TITANS back in the day when they were breaching $1k a pop.

  • Is this good for an AMD system??

    • +2

      That depends.

    • Depends if its going to play games, render video, or neither.

    • +1

      The RX5700XT is one of the best AMD cards you can buy, I have not heard of Biostar before though.

      If you have a Ryzen CPU it doesn't really matter if you get an AMD or nVidia card they will both work fine.

      • +3

        I have not heard of Biostar before though.

        They are a huge GPU manufacturer since about early 2000's.

        They used to be the go-to before power colour took the crown.

        Then, much later, various motherboard manufacturers like gigabyte MSI and Asus jumped in the ring and people who arent brand savvy thought "oh! I know that brand!" Yeah……. for a completely different type of component. Lol.

        I wouldnt hesitate on biostar, usually pretty well planned. Used to be known for heatpipe cooling where nobody else was using them yet.

        • crazy, thanks for the info. I remember Voodoo cards dunno how I missed Biostar!

          • +1

            @gfunk zero: Pretty sure my brother built me a PC with a Voodoo GPU back in the day, around the time I was playing Quake 2 at LAN parties šŸ˜‚

  • can't seem to find any reviews on this card hmmm….

    • +5

      Hi there,

      This card is a new model,

      We are receiving some of the first cards from production

      OP

      • +2

        If you bench the card's temps (including hotspot, also called junction and GDDR6), and fan speed, you earn OzBargain cred.

        • be careful when using Junction temps, the way they measure them has changed so they now appear in the 100-110c range, this is normal and doesn't mean they are running hotter, just the way the measurement is taken has changed.

          • @gromit: Nah mate I know what I'm talking about, got a 5700. As soon as junction hits 100 my PC starts flying, it's obviously not okay. Even in the card's VBIOS it's instructed to shut down past 115c, and ramps the fans to max past 100c. Most cards should never break 95c at stock settings, and shouldn't break 90c undervolted. The only one that 100-110c makes sense on is the reference card.

            • @Void: regardless, 100 is NOT hot for those cards due to the measurement method, that would be like a 70 or 80c in the old method of measurement. Some cards cooling does suck and yes a lot of these are noisy, but that is the nature of these things. 95c is the old trip point when you are measure near rather than ON component. So 110c is still well under the old 95c trip point in the old measurement method.

              • @gromit: I'm not confusing them. 95c is the old 80c to me, up to 90c is fine but it's quite discomforting to be above 80c.

                • @Void: I am sure it is, many people are struggling with the new temperature measurement. Nvidia are probably being smart here as they have stuck to measuring on the edge so they don't scare users while AMD are providing more accurate measurements.
                  their are a few articles that explain it in better detail.
                  start here.
                  https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/296577-why-110-degree-temā€¦

                  • @gromit: Aaaah you don't seem to be getting me lol. I meant it's discomforting to be above 80c on the old measurement, and when 95c is the new 80c I don't like to be above 95c. I remember on the older drivers junction didn't even exist, so it's weird that AMD made it available.

                    • @Void: 95 isn't the new 80, 110 is. you should only start to get concerned when you start going beyond that. anything in the 100-110 range is normal operation, anything below 100 is either in low usage or you have awesome cooling.

                      • @gromit: I'm so confused now. If the vBIOS has the card shut down at 115c, how is 110c the new 80c? Also many many cards don't go above 95c. We've got like every Sapphire card except for reference, every PowerColor card, Gigabyte Gaming OC, XFX THICC III and MSI Gaming X. 95c isn't amazing, that's the temps the mainstream cards hit, heck even less.

                        • @Void: anything sitting below 100c is doing a great job on the cooling, the floor being around 90c but anything up to 110c is still within spec for these chips. 95c is actually pretty damn good.

                          • @gromit: Floor? Look at this slide. Some of these aren't breaking 75c!

                            • @Void: those are for non XT cards, they use considerably less power and generate less heat.

                              • @gromit: Floor? Look at this slide. Some of these aren't breaking 75c! Albeit 180W, but my god damn 140W 5700 non-XT is getting to 95c.

                                • @Void: yes those are impressive cards (albeit at a lower power), hmmm and yes the floor does seem to be lower than it was last time I reviewed this. really looking at mid to low 80's now.

                                  • @gromit: That's what I'm aiming for with my MECH OC mod, gonna repaste it, remove the backplate, maybe replace the TPs if they are really bad and possibly use washers to increase mounting pressure. Goal is to OC as far as it goes at stock voltages.

                                    • @Void: I used grizzly conductonaut on a friends GPU not that long back, he claims it is running a good 10 degrees cooler post application.

                                      • @gromit: Ooooh liquid metal! I'm just gonna use plain old NT-H1.

                                        • @Void: yeah, definitely not something I will use unless overclocking lol, luckily I saw videos like this before the first time I used it
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JCbDRSFTLw

                                          • @gromit: Yup that's why I'm not using it, especially on a bare die with all those exposed components around it.

                                        • @Void: H2 is worth it for the extra 3c improved performance.

                                          Also, if you have a steady trained hand, you're better off using shorter screws with a washer and no spring.

                                          You can manage some pretty serious mounting pressure, just be careful of chipping the die.

                                          But if youve ever de-lidded a CPU, you'll know its not that easy to break a die.

                                          • @MasterScythe: H2 is twice as expensive so no thanks. Also it's like 3 degrees at best, on TR4 chips it does a lot better, but on AM4 the difference is less than 1 degree.

                                            • @Void: Yeah but, those 10g tubes will last you probably 5+ years.

                                              I take my PCs seriously, I dont quibble over the $7, even for 1 degree.

                                              • @MasterScythe: 3.5g is plenty for me, that's like 15 applications according to Noctua, I don't think I'd do that many in my lifetime. I'd rather put that money to a new cooler.

                                                • @Void: At 3.5g its only a $5 difference.

                                                  I havent found a cooler thats better than $5 per Degree (let alone, possibly 3deg) over stock, unless we include subzero cooling.

                                                  I usually buy based on value to performance.

  • Looks like reference PCB and clocks

    • -1

      PCB and clocks were never an issue though.

      Voltage curve and cooling solution were.

      So, fingers crossed theyve looked into that.

      • -1

        Never said it was an issue

  • +1

    Why does this go toe to toe with the 2070 Super, use less power and cost $500 less????

    • +1

      2070 Super can be had for $749 https://www.umart.com.au/Galax-GeForce-RTX-2070-Super-Click-ā€¦

      I'd save the money and get the 5700XT but there are legit reasons for going Nvidia.

      • +2

        what legit reasons would u go Nvidia over AMD?

        • +11

          dlss , rt , nvenc

        • +8

          Disclaimer: not OP, but I am a current AMD user.

          Reasons to pick Turing over RDNA1:

          • Support for DirectX 12 Ultimate (support for DirectX Raytracing 1.1, Variable Rate Shading, Mesh Shaders, and Sampler Feedback)
          • DLSS 2.0
          • Turing's rather impressive NVENC hardware video encoder (which is miles better than AMD's current VCE implementation)
          • Reported driver issues by some (but not all) RX 5000-series users.

          While RDNA2 will receive support for some of these things (DX12 Ultimate) it won't for others (DLSS 2.0, NVENC), and some things just can't be known ahead of time (driver stability). RDNA1 cards, however will not.

          The above reasons aside, RDNA1-based GPUs offer competitive performance in most games at a lower price. Check through some reviews to find games that you play.

          Some reasons to potentially wait on buying an enthusiast graphics card:

          • Ampere rumoured for launch in September
          • RDNA2 supposedly targeting Q4
          • +1

            @tmr3: I agree with tmr3, I've had an AMD card previously it was the second best one I could get at the time, yes it lasted, but I did have driver issues and when playing games that were mouse heavy, the pointer would change into lines and brackets etc, only a restart would fix this issue.

            I've since gone with Nvidia for my current build, and havent had such issues.
            In saying that the 5700XT is on par if not better than the 2070 Super in terms of specs and price point. (these were the two cards I chose between)

            Only thing I would be worried about is getting a biostar card, I've always preferred more reputable brands

            • @me4president: That mouse pointer issue STILL happens on them.

              Warcraft3 still drops its cursor commonly on my old amd system, never on the Intel.

              I didnt expect it to be driver, but makes sense.

              • @MasterScythe: I had an intel system with and AMD graphics card, it happened to me on every game, whether it was dota 2, star craft, red alert 3, warcraft, and it wouldnt just be in the game, it would continue to be on the screen once I've exited the game.

                Running an AMD system currently with Nvidia card, so my conclusion came down to the AMD driver.
                And yeah I remember reading up on it, seemed to be affecting many, issues like that I just find annoying.

          • +1

            @tmr3: I keep seeing the 'wait till september' comments on Ozbargain and it seems people haven't learnt much from B550 release at all.

            If RDNA2 is by any stretch a good platform (which it should be) then its going to suffer heavy demand in a world where logistics and manufacturing are suffering. Your either going to pay a hefty premium or be waiting literal months for stock. Then by then it'll be 'wait for Nvidia Ampere entry level cards, they'll blow RDNA2 out of the water for a cheaper price!'. Guys just order it when you want it and forget about it.

            I ordered a B550 mini ITX board 2AM of launch day and it still hasn't shipped yet.

            • @Kill Joy: When people say wait if you can it's not just about getting the new release, it l also means the last gen will likely see a huge drop in price so you could get the same thing in a couple of months for much less.

              Of course if you absolutely need a new component now don't wait.

            • @Kill Joy: everything suggests Ampere will blow it out of the water so i dunno why you being salty?

              • @Freestyle: I agree Ampere will blow it out of the water, why can't you read?

                I just said its not worth the wait if you want it now because you'll be waiting till early next year to see significant price drops (and stock) at this performance level.

                • @Kill Joy: because youā€™ll be buying a 2070 level card at the 2060 price level

                  thats the money saving part

            • @Kill Joy: If you've got a bone to pick because you haven't received something you ordered, sure, but I did say in my comment "some reasons to potentially wait" - it's not a hard and fast recommendation either way. If someone wants to buy a graphics card right now and has 600 bucks to spend, snagging an RX 5700 XT is hardly the worst choice they can make. At the same time, there's valid reasons for considering an NVIDIA GPU over an AMD GPU (and vice versa), just as there are valid reasons to consider waiting for the new launches to take place.

              If you're in a situation where you already have an existing gaming PC and can sit tight for another few months, I personally think waiting makes the most sense right now. If you are building a new PC and can't afford to wait or want to build ASAP, there's other relevant guidance that can be followed there.

              • @tmr3: No bone to pick, it just seems some people haven't realized the economic and logistic stalemate we are sitting in. I tihnk you're missing my point - it's not going to be a couple months. In a couple of months, if all is on track, we will see a very limited batch of founder editions. I doubt anyone this side of the pond is getting Nvidia 3000 series before Christmas unless they snipe a founders edition or pay over RRP on a marketplace.

                Realistically your looking at 6+ months before we see well priced RDNA2/Ampere cards is my point. So all I'm saying is it's not just 'a few months away'.

        • 3D rendering

        • +1

          Because they have generally far better driver support and work with a lot more game developers for example Death Strandingā€™s PC launch

        • Sadly, needing to use Iray and CUDA cores.

    • +2

      Just classic AMD's fight back for market share strategy

    • -3

      5700 has notorious driver issues.

      • -6

        +1 for this. Still haven't sorted their drivers out…

        • +1

          Just because your card isn't working properly doesn't mean it's the drivers, even RTX cards are prone to black screens when they are faulty. Then I just had a guy on r/bapcsalesaustralia trying to return their 5600 XT for "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT" BSODs, bruh that's your system RAM not the 5600 XT.

      • +15

        -1 for this. Having had a 5700 not long after release, and with zero driver issues - and now with a 5700XT also with zero driver issues, I disagree with your broad and generalising statement.

        • +5

          Mate Iā€™m not making it up. It only takes searching ā€œ5700xt issuesā€ to find a plethora of sites with people asking for help or saying they returned their 5700 and got a 20X0…

          https://youtu.be/1uynVO4ZXl0

          (profanity) fanboys

          • @Roger Ramjet: Obviously people are going to complain when they have issues, this stuff can go down to user error, tunnel vision and straight up just a faulty model. Doesn't mean it's the drivers…

            • @Void: Bro, one or two complaints sure but there is/was obviously an issue. AMD even admitted it in their driver release notes.

              Some users may still experience black screen or system hang issues during extended periods of gameplay. AMD will continue to monitor and investigate reports of these issues closely.

              https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-2ā€¦

              • -1

                @Roger Ramjet: People can just report shit when it isn't the GPU. Only time I ever had the black screens/system hangs were when I (profanity) up a VRAM OC. Also had system hangs when RAM XMP was bad, it's extremely common for that to happen too so it's also a big cause of all these reports. All of this is so difficult to pinpoint though it's impossible to tell what's an issue and what isn't. What's weirdest is that people don't just RMA the card. I mean maybe… just maybe… you got a faulty one?

        • +2

          Hi Samba, I have owned 2 5700s that I have flashed to XT varients with 0 driver issues, I have also owned a 5700xt that had major driver issues. This has been resolved with major updates a few months ago. Some people still have driver issues.

        • +3

          I have experienced plenty of driver issues with my 5700xt - it's extremely irritating. It seems that they patch one problem and create another.

          I'm waiting for a decent price on a 2070 Super to kick this thing to the kerb; I never had any dramas with Nvidia cards.

          • @klaw81: We currently have a deal on inno3D 2070 Supers here

            OP

          • @klaw81: 20.4.2

            Perfection.

          • +2

            @klaw81: For every 1 user with an issue probably 50 don't make a post at all. Sure they use to have a very high issue rate and thats greatly improved. Even if its 0.5% that would represent a lot of people having problems. I'm not going to avoid a card when the chances of having an issue are miniscule.

            I have played the following with my 5700XT without a single problem:

            • Sims 4
            • Apex Legends
            • Borderlands 3
            • The witcher 3
            • Overwatch
            • Total war: Warhammer 2

            Sure 5700xt is not perfect and im sure some people have issues. But at its price point its worth the risk imho.

            • @Kill Joy: I understand your motivation; mine was the same - more performance for less dollars.

              I took the same risk and I'm pretty unhappy with the result. Most of the time it works fine, but sometimes it crashes every 20 minutes.

              I hope that AMD succeeds in competing with Nvidia but I'm heading back to team green as soon as I can, and waiting until they get their drivers more reliable.

              YMMV I guess.

              • @klaw81: Sorry it didnt work out for you, definitely a case of YMMV. Honestly this was a stop gap for me i decided on a few months ago - get the bare minimum graphics to keep me going for now, then upgrade after Ampere and RNDA2 release and go on sale (probably another year or 2). No point spending more now when better options are coming. Hoping AMD pulls out a DLSS/RTX alternative soon.

              • @klaw81: Return it???

        • How many OS's have you tried?

          I had issues on Arch and Debian, BSD and a Hackintosh.
          Only Windows was remotely stable.

          I guess 1/4 aint bad?

          That said, as a nerd im certainly still looking at this card. Its bang for Buck is undeniable.

        • Has anyone played Warzone with a 5700XT? I have the Gigabyte RX5700XT GAMING OC variant, and pretty much every new Warzone match, I need to flick to Fullscreen Borderless, then back to Fullscreen. Sometimes enabling and disabling depth of field also works. If I dont do this, it will consistently freeze/stutter every 5 seconds.

          I must say though, the game looks spectacular 1440p with high settings. Runs at 120-130fps.

    • +2

      2070S is a more powerful card with much more features mr amd fanboy

      • +3

        2070S averages 9% performance over 5700xt at a 25% price premium. Sure it is better, but this is a bargain website and 5700XT is better value.

        • +1

          9%? Thats probably only in gaming.

          It has literally a few hundred percent times the performance in video encoding thanks to NVENC.

          If you're rendering any sort of tracing algorithm it can handle it on-card rather than offloading to CPU.

          Also, provides access to things like RTX voice.

          Cuda cores for accelerating several workstation 3d apps.

          That 9% you list is provably only in framerate.

          And even a lot of casual gamers now care about nvenc as online streaming gets popular.

          • @MasterScythe: Does the average consumer really do anything you listed above?

            • @Void: Yup!

              Twitch streaming is very popular.
              So is making or editing home video.
              Both of these are hugely more efficient with nvenc.

              And 3d design (which can use cuda) is also super popular with artists, architects, and anyone with a 3d printer hobby.

              Add on, anyone who plays with audio; musicians, remixers, DJ's will enjoy rtx voice.

              Thats a lot of regular folks and regular hobbies.

        • and what about people who want RTX and DLSS capabilities? More and more games are being released that uses this tech so you cant pull the old 'no games have it' card anymore

  • Been looking for a 5700xt for a while, is this one any good? cant seem to find anything about it online, gotta admit its kinda ugly looking which i guess doesnt really matter that much…

    • +1

      Have a look at the Red Devil, or Nitro+. The higher price is well worth it - finding an AIB close to perfect is difficult , and these are outstanding cards

  • +2

    biostar usually make oem videocard for alienware

    • thanks for the info, have not heard of them

    • As well as their own motherboards, and GPUs.
      Very old and respected brand.

      Just like foxconn

  • Cheap! Lucky sold my 5700xt used for $600 just a couple of weeks ago.

    • +11

      What so now you can buy the exact same card and gain $5 ?

      • +1

        Obviously if you can buy it new for cheaper he would not be able to get $600 for a used card.

  • +1

    Awesome, i take it the 3600x builds will be shipping this week? (and in particular for those who requested just parts)

    Busy week ahead for you guys haha?

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