General Purpose RTX 3070 Launch Thread

Hello!

Not a lot going on in the mWave raffle thread last night for the 3090 launch, dunno if everyone too exhausted by the 3080 one the week before, or if the 3090 is just ridiculously expensive for 12% gains over the 3080 that most gamers can expect…

Just a spot for thoughts, memes, links, anything of interest in the lead up to the 3070 launch.

Catalog of Useful Links

NVidia RTX 3070 Launch Moved to Oct 29th
* unsure of Australian Date.
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-delays-the-launch-of-the

The MWave Raffle
* ( it's the only way to get a "founders edition" )

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Comments

  • -1

    Personally, I think the 3090 is stupid for 97% of the population, and 100% of gamers. It is a purchase only for those with money to burn or who want the status of owning a 3090.

    The 3080 vs 3070 is where the focus needs to be on for everyone.

    Personally, I am not looking to upgrade this release as I have a 2080Ti (luckily bought back on release in 2018, so I've had plenty of use out of it). It's also on a custom loop which makes plug and play a little more difficult. I will wait for Ti/Super versions or 4000 series. Some might say "bUt th3 3o80 iS tWIce aS f4sssst" but whatever, here's why… I already have a 34" ultrawide 1440p monitor with a high refresh rate, and my 2080ti more than gives me more frames than I need at that resolution, on ultra settings for the games I play. When I look to upgrade my GPU, it will only be when the frames start dropping below what my monitor can give me. By that stage i'll probably be on a whole new rig build anyway.

    What I will say though, is whilst the 3070 has a performance parity (or better?) 2080ti, it lacks in VRAM, meaning that at high resolutions, in graphic intensive games the card is going to max. 8gb is not what I would consider future proof anymore. Where a 1080Ti was a card you could buy and use for 5 years comfortably, I think the 3070 might struggle to produce decent results in 2024+ when 1440p is the norm, 4K is the enthusiast and 8K is getting more common. The 3080 on the other hand has more VRAM, higher memory bandwidth, about 45% better than the 3070 in terms of specs. It is however, not 45% more expensive, so the dollar returns are much better.

    So I think if you are looking to do a full new build now, the 3070 is not bad if you are buying today's monitors, if you were just dropping in the 3070 into a prexisting rig to last another year or two for a whole new rig build, I think i would consider the 3080, so that if you get everything else new, the card isn't going to have issues delivering the required frames.

    Or maybe I'm just talking smack… who knows.

    • I started this thread specifically so I could talk smack and make unfounded claims about AMD's Lisa Su being Jeffrey Epstein's other assistant so go nuts!

      To be serious though, 10GB doesn't seem like that much of a jump from 8..

      I'm worried that the new 3070/16gb and 3080/20gb variants will be the norm and that I'll be shafted in a years time when the game developers start thinking that 16gb is the new normal.

      I tend to not fuss over textures too much though, I'm more interested in AA, god rays, ambient occlusion, TressFX / NVidia Hair Werx and focus pulls, that sort of stuff.

      You tube videos where they show texture mods, extreme closeups of the wall, see the grain in the wood etc. If you saw something like that in real life, it would be like the end of Blairwitch, just some guy standing in the corner staring at the wall. .. Creepy..

      • Yeah I know we are only talking 8GB to 10GB, but don't forget to consider the increase in other specs that support the overall processing power too.

        Memory clock is 5Gbps faster on the 3080
        Memory Bus width increased from 256-bit to 320-bit on the 3080
        45% more CUDA and Tensor cores

        • My understanding of these cards is pretty limited beyond "% increase" in X vs grtx xxxx.

          But the percentages are getting sufficiently high enough that I'm pretty keen. (Sorry if you replied to my 3090 comment, I thought I was in a different chat..)

          • @jonathonsunshine: Yep, honestly I love my 2080ti, and i have no need for replacing it due to my other hardware, but if i was on a 2070 Super, or even an older 10 series GPU, I would be very very excited for the new release cards and be jumping on a 3080.

            Im keen to see what RNDA2 brings though, my guess is something big for nvidia to have given us so much performance for the price.

    • I wouldn't be too worried about the 8GB in the 3070 if you're at 1440P, as the only game that exceeds that amount currently that I'm aware of is Doom Eternal at 4K. Vram allocation and usage are two different things

      • +1

        Definitely as I said though, if you are planning on a new monitor and GPU combo right now, 3070 and 1440p is a great pairing.

        If you are planning on a new GPU and upgrading your monitor in another 2 or so years, I'd be looking at 3080.

  • +1

    Hey guys…

    I heard that 3070 is cancelled. Yeah that's a real bummer ey. I mean I don't think it'll be worth it anyways. I just wouldn't worry about launch day. Maybe you might want to unsubscribe from the Mwave raffle.

    /s

    • Yup, totally cancelled. One of the 3070 dev kits was drunk on twitter and dropped the N bomb while making jokes about Ginsburg. So sad.

  • https://www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/evga-nvidia-rtx-3080-c…

    OK, I know this is the 3070 thread but I don't see how this won't be an issue on them as well…

    Also, THATS THE CARD I BOUGHT WAAHHHHAHHAHAAHHH

    It says only happened on the first run of boards sent out to reviewers etc, but I'm still spooked…

    • Always wait a few mths with new Products until teething issues are sorted out.

      • I've been scrolling through my old posts after trying to find a link from back in the day. So glad I didn't take your advice haha, my card works fine and if memory serves, I probably saved myself about $1000 by buying at launch XD

  • Where will i be able to buy the 3070 on launch, or am i out of luck already?

    • ple.com.au is where i got my order in on a 3080. PLE.com.au to my understanding had "some" cards on hand and if you ordered fast enough at 11pm on (thurday???) night, you might have one right now. Everyone else is in a queue and I might get mine in late October or early November.

      mwave.com.au is a similar story but more expensive. Computer Alliance, Scorptec, I believe same dealio.

      MWave have the raffle for the FE cards and every is hating on them for last raffles and its all conjecture but it doesn't look good. You probably won't win.

      Umart seem to not sell them at 11pm, they wait till a day or two in… I imagine they offer there cards to there premium members first maybe?

      MSY won't have any cause they sell em direct on ebay for $2000 each.

      TLDR

      I imagine the 3070 launch will be exactly the same as 3080 and 3090 and you can catch up on all the war stories here: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/565390

      and a link to founders edition raffle is now in the main post.

      • Ah, guess i'm pretty much out of luck then!

        looking to upgrade since just pre-ordered Reverb g2 VR!

        Hopefully can find a 3080 or 3070 prior to end of nov/dec!

        tyty

        • if you want a 3070, you still have as good a chance as anyone else at the moment, I think the release date is Oct 16th (not exact, from memory only). There won't be any pre-orders, just be first to order at your preferred retailer whenever they start selling them. (asus, msi, evga etc etc).

          Or enter the raffle for a founders edition. I'm not in it myself, only so my housemate can be instead… but there is no point not being in it at all

          • @jonathonsunshine: I can't seem to find listings of the 3070 anywhere? which site would i buy from would it be mwave, etc? or direct from MSI etc,

            thanks!

            • @blinkybro: None of the retailers are doing preorders , (unless things have changed from 3080/3090 launch)

              Just have to be "first in line" when they start selling them, 11pm, launch night. (Again, I THINK that is the 16th of October)

              • @jonathonsunshine: Perfect,

                You're a legend! really appreciate it. and by retailors are we to assume all will have on MWAVE, PCCASEGEAR, PLCOMPUTERS? what else would there be?

                Just so i can get ready for launch and am aware of each place to come :)

                • @blinkybro: dunno guy, its 3 weeks away. And there won't be any links till it goes live, just have to smash your favorite websites on the night and hope for the best.

  • Launch has been delayed to ensure better availability, partially to overshadow AMD and specifically to make md consider cancelling 3080 preorder .. again.

    https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-delays-the-launch-of-the-rtx-…

  • Just FYI regarding MSI (for those considering an MSI card).

    There's some heated discussion over in reddit about MSI possibly selling their own cards at a higher price under a subsidiary:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/j6idky/msi_scalpi…

    Some people there who were told they won't get cards until 2021 are pissed and apparently even LTT and Nvidia got involved:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1313693786216644…

    • I mean it also comes down to what team red will show off and if nvidia feels threatened enough to release stuff.

  • https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-unveils-geforce-rtx-3070-ko…

    Another kewl card I'll never touch in real life :(

  • So release date = tomorrow? At what time can we order?

    • most likely will be around the same time the NDA was released for the 3070, so 12am AEDT

  • So everyone in this thread might want to wait for the AMD R6800 reviews, finally AMD is back in the game

    • G-Sync monitor, can't get an AMD card. Nvidia only for me :P

      • Yeah I guess no one thought that would be a problem this century

        • Wasn't a problem in 2016 when I bought it and G-Sync monitors / Nvidia cards were the best available out there. Not a huge problem now.

          • @achyd1: One of my mates bought a 1500$ Gsync monitor this month while waiting for RTX3080/3090 stock, now considering a AMD RX6900 haha

    • https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/10/28/amd-radeon-rx-6800-x…

      Was to be expected though, first time round. But if AMD powers the RT in the the XsX and PS5, and PC games are primarily ported from the console versions, maybe you won't really notice?

  • +1

    AMD Big Navi look good if it available I grab it in November Launch, so now we have Nvidia and AMD both are good so plenty of stock to choose from in the next 3 months, good thing comes to those who waits

    • +1

      I think the rtx3070 has a nice spot if you're not too bothered by 4k gaming. 8gb vram is very limiting for 4k gaming. The 6800 is only $80usd more expensive and does have 16gb vram. november 18th for the rx6800.

      • Im thinking of getting a 3070 and then grabbing an rx6800xt if its as good as they claim. Thinking of pairing it with a 5000 so itll take advantage of whatever memory sharing thing they mentioned. But then would I be able to sell the 3070? Questions…

        • It will still sell to Nvidia fanboys / people that can't wait / people with G-Sync monitor

          • @achyd1: Ive also got a 3080 on order, though that wont come for a while. Lots of money being stored in PC part sellers' banks…

            • @ATangk: edit: replied wrong comment

              • @achyd1: Did you receive a 3080 already?

                • @ATangk: Nuh, still waiting, not even ETA date, ordered it on launch day

  • Umart have 7 cards available for preorder, prices seem to be a little bit on the complete rip off side though compared to PLE's prices on the 3080…

    https://www.umart.com.au/GeForce-RTX-3070_1065C.html

    • (profanity) that. I'll sit until my 3080 comes if they want that sort of pricing…

      • Some of them are more expensive than 3080 prices on PLE, wtf

        • I know… Because FE is 809 I was already thinking price to performance its not as good as grabbing a 3080. So 850 would have been my limit.

      • I still don't have an ETA on my card from PLE but at least the price was right.

        My update today didn't actually give me any specific info regarding my order like it usually does.

        Edit, they now have 17 cards, cheapest starts at $809 for a Inno3d card

    • Theyre adding them as we speak. 13 now.

  • +1

    Inno3D GeForce RTX 3070 Twin X2 8G Graphics Card
    Is this any good? $809 price at umart

    • I'm sure if you get your hands on one at worst case scenario you;ll be able to resell it for what you paid after they inevitable sell out. But looking at the prices of their other cards, I don't see why the Inno3d wouldn't be cheaper again at another retailer (don't wanna bounce on PLE's D too hard ;^) )

      • I already have a 3080 on order with PLE, I'd have to lose my queue to do that.

    • I'd wait to see other stores first - wouldn't go for a Inno3D myself

    • I placed on order for this one. https://i.imgur.com/HhlhQTe.png

      There's a $120 price difference between the Inno3d X2 and X3. I figured that's too much of a price increase to pay for just to have slightly lower fan noise when gaming, not really an issue for me since I'm usually have airpods in or using VR headset.

      hopefully it has a fan stop feature

      • I ended up ordering one too, but I'm not super keen on it tbh.

  • https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Palit-Gaming-PRO-RTX-3070-Grafik…

    There was this floating around until 1 min ago.

  • Waiting to see what EVGA prices are

    • EVGA 900 @ PLE

  • CA is up now
    https://www.computeralliance.com.au/search?search=3070

    All 999 or above…

    But that vision looks so good…

  • MWave, though i'd sooner Jigsaw them all before buying a card from them https://www.mwave.com.au/graphics-cards/geforce-rtx-3070

  • Too much, everyone don't buy one so the prices go down….

  • Not worth it. It's almost as expensive as a RTX 3080.

  • God these are a bit of a rip off arent they…

  • godamn it all. Ok lads, its been real, not really interested in the 3060, i'll see you all in 4 years for the 50xx launch

    Peace!

    • +1

      Or you know, wait a year for the real OZB's on 3080's?

  • +2

    I was dead set minutes ago, but afterseeing the $900, someething in me said "No mate, don't do it."

    I don't regret it.

  • Yep - unless I win that FE raffle for 3070, might sit this one out and wait for 3080 with these prices

    • Yes please. FE is the only one that seems worth…

  • There were cards for $800 and $860, but they were few and far between.

    Not across enough of the line-ups to know if we were seeing basic cards for $900-$1000, or if most of the basic cards were skipped.

    • Which one was 860?

        • Scorptec selling that same model for $100 more.

          • @ATangk: That was being shipped from the US, so yes, not subject to AU supplier BS.

            • @jasswolf: Ebay already getting some big competition for some 3070 FE's

        • Your optimism was unfortunately incorrect jasswolf. And expect the same for 3060tis and the AMD range. The market is way too keen for these cards, prices won’t stabilise until well in to 2021.

          • @tkotk: All I'm seeing is a bunch of business pricing in a way that suggests they're somehow struggling to stay afloat despite incredible, unprecedented demand.

            They should be ashamed of what they're doing.

            • @jasswolf: Agreed. But the market demand is there so they do it freely. 3080’s and 3090’s are near impossible to buy and 3070’s have almost all sold out. From a business perspective, their purchasers seem have to hand over the asking price without question.

              And AMD are doing the same, with a small discount. Be interesting to see if they can launch with stock, that may put some more pressure on retailers and NVIDIA cards, but I doubt it.

              Expect 3060tis to launch at $800+ also, and they’re essentially dialled down 3070.

              • @tkotk: Aware they're a GA104, just disappointed that AMD have positioned the RX 6800 in such a silly way.

                There should be a series of much more competitive offering in the USD $350-$500 band, especially with the console launch. Hopefully NVIDIA fire a shot there.

  • over $1k for most models…
    I'm passing on this one, at least for now.
    $800-900 was already hard for me to justify.

    • Better off sitting on a huge waitlist for a 3080…

  • Agree on rip-off across board, but looking for a Strix 3070 OC this is the cheapest I've seen in stock (at time of post)

    https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-ro…

    Edit: Still can't add to cart so chance it's out but system hasn't updated

  • +1

    I had one in my cart but never let me check out… Hopefully the new Radeons drive the price and demand down and tehn we can laugh at the people who bought now at a premium.

    • +1

      Sour grapes, but I share your pain.

    • +1

      Agree, but that could be a few months of salty snickers until they drop. I'm ideally after 3070ti with 16gb. Might as well wish for a unicorn with this being another near vapor release

      • I doubt you’ll see a 16GB card before a Super refresh.

        • Probably correct. It was rumoured with full GA104 die and 16gb GDDR6, but last week rumoured cancelled as NV has shortages of RAM. New rumour is cut down GA102 with 10gb GDDR6x perhaps only 10% slower than 3080 by end of year. Still fiction until we can buy it so that's 2021 for AU market

    • Yes, definitely sour grapes as I'd have happily paid the $500 US… Guess I'll be salty like Lurker said for a while.

  • All sold out at Mwave now. 3 mins ago had Gigabyte Gaming and MSI Ventus

  • +1

    $923 inc postage from PLE ; will check tomorrow with them to confirm that the order went through successfully.

    • They're getting slammed. Confirmation takes a bit longer after you purchase.

  • +1

    Sticking to my 3080 preorder.. Man the prices are crazy.

    • +1

      Yep, $900-1200AUD for the RTX 3070 is suppose to be mid range, I think not!
      Sticking to my RTX 2070 Super (for iRay CUDA work) and going to get the 6800XT.

  • https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gigabyte-GeForce-RTX-3070-8GB-Ga…

    PCMeal with the first 3070 on eBay, still overpriced as f

    • ple.com.au sold all there stock in like 10-15 minutes

      • Well, I have a bunch of eBay gift cards but I don't think I'll be able to use them for launch items :P

        • -1

          I'd be waiting it out if people want an nVidia card as I'm sure a price cut, Super/Ti release or even a 4000 series refresh is on the cards with the ball kicking AMD did with the 6000 series.

  • Merged from Am I The Only One Who Thinks Its Stupid to Buy 3070 at These Prices ?

    it feels stupid to go for asus strix variants of 3070 when you can get 3080 for that price evga ultra or something it just doesnt makes sense am i the only one whos annoyed by the pricing of those cards ?

    • Exactly why I backed out, too close pricing, I thought I was supposed to get a $400 saving minimum from a 3070 but it was only like $200 and the higher brands just straight up past the 3080s in price.

      • It is a $400 saving, isn't Strix 3080 $1600

    • Lol I was expecting prices closer to $800.

      At these prices, I will just keep using my 1070. It runs Factorio fine anyways.

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