First PC Build for 15 Years. GPU Purchase - Wait till Dec?

LTrackingtom on 08/10/2020 - 08:56

Long time console gamer and I've decided to make the switch to PC.

First purchase was a Ryzen 3 3300x already on sale for $200 at Amazon.

The question is, I'm leaning towards the RX 5600 XT at $419 for the GPU - but this is my first build during all the new releases in Oct/Nov/Dec and wondering if I should wait?

I want detail in my games, Cyberpunk 2077 etc. Not too fussed on online multiplayer (I suck with a controller but maybe K&M will 'help').

I'm aiming for 80+ FPS, ULTRA settings on a 1080p display with the ability to upgrade the monitor down the track to a 1440p (6 months or so).

My decision for GPU is RX 5600 XT
(https://www.pccasegear.com/category/193_2078/graphics-cards/…)

or GTX 1660 Super but wait for it to go down to low $300s
(https://www.pccasegear.com/products/48142/gigabyte-geforce-g…)

What are your thoughts?

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Comments

  • [Deactivated] on 08/10/2020 - 09:24
    +1

    You're going to need to beef up your system if you want ultra even at 1080p for 2077… Just wait till the end of the year. What's your budget and we can spec parts for you from there.

  • sighmon on 08/10/2020 - 09:26
    +3

    If you can afford to try and get an RTX card since you want detail in your games, Cyberpunk is one of the RTX games Nvidia advertises.

    GPU prices have already dropped since RTX 3000 series dropped but there may be some xmas deals around the corner.

    There was already a deal for an RTX 2070 super : https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/571137

  • User2049 on 08/10/2020 - 09:50
    +3

    In the build you posted above the X570 motherboard is overkill go for a mid-range B550 and save $100.

    The SSD is good but you can save some more money by switching to a lesser brand NVMe drive which shouldn't have a noticeable performance impact.

    AMD is announcing new graphics cards at the end of the month and they are ending production of current SKUs I believe, so I would wait a month atleast just to see if prices drop.

    The case is fine but you could go with a cheaper one to save a few dollars.

    The power supply is very good but you could probably drop down to the semi modular version with no worries.

    These budget savings should allow for a games HDD and a much better GPU.

    • Trackingtom on 08/10/2020 - 10:16

      Legend. Thanks mate.

      I went the x570 for more future proofing more than anything. Had the MSI Tomahawk B450 in there earlier.

      But maybe when I upgrade CPU, grab a mobo to match instead?

  • pformag on 08/10/2020 - 11:09
    +1

    Black Friday is coming, and I think the click frenzy etc. Also Amazon Prime Day.

  • mrkorrupt on 08/10/2020 - 11:13
    +1

    In my professional opinion that system is unbalance and the new AMDs are being detailed tonight (3am) and so far rumors show anywhere between 10-25% (with a planet worth of salt), so if i was you i would sell the 3300X right now quicksmart.

    Also unless you are getting an SSD with PCI-E 4.0 speeds over 5GB/sec then PCI-E 4.0 is not needed so get a B450/B550 or X470

    $XXX - AMD 5000 series CPU (detailed today, release in 2 weeks)
    $XXX - AMD 6000 series GPU (detailed in 3 weeks, release in 6 weeks)
    $179 - MSI X470 GAMING PLUS MAX Motherboard -
    https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/motherboards/amd-socket-…
    $155 - Crucial P1 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD - https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/hard-drives-&-ssds/ssd-m…
    $75 - Cougar MX330-G - MESH FRONT, 4 USB ports front panel - better for cooling, has optical drive option if needed - https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/cases/atx/77567-mx330-g
    $120 - 700 Watt Semi Modular bronze PSU

    • Trackingtom on 08/10/2020 - 11:24

      Thanks heaps.

      Great options there for Mobo, SSD, case and PSU.

      3am tonight. Right-o.. Check OzB in the morning then - haha

    • smashman42 on 08/10/2020 - 13:46

      Do you really think they can sell a $200 CPU for enough to make that worth the effort? Plus, only the 8 & 12c CPUs will be available straight away, so unless you mean wait until early next year the best they can hope for is a discounted 3000 series CPU seeing as going above 6c12t is pretty pointless with sub $1k GPUs

      • mrkorrupt on 08/10/2020 - 13:57

        how do you know whats going to be available?

        • smashman42 on 08/10/2020 - 14:09

          Was all over the tech media a week or so ago that the 16c and surprisingly the 6c were being held back with only the 8c and 12c available initially, with no mention whatsoever about the 4c

      • Trackingtom on 08/10/2020 - 14:19
        +1

        I'm going to stick with the 3300x for now.

        I watched a few benchmark vids and if I'm looking for a 60-80FPS and ultra graphics @ 1080p - this paired with a 2070 Super seems to tick the box.

        The downside, I read, is if I want higher FPS, the CPU struggles to handle it.
        If and when that happens, I'll sell the CPU and upgrade. Mar - Jun I would think.

        Then grab a new monitor, CPU and mobo by the sounds of it.

        • sal78 on 11/10/2020 - 00:37

          It's a very good CPU👍🏻 My son paired it with 1650super for a budget build 1st pc.

  • SwarlesBarkley on 08/10/2020 - 14:10
    +1

    Definitely hold fire on the GPU until AMD announces their Big Navi GPUs at the end of the month. Nvidia will also be releasing their 3070s around the same time which would be a bit of a splurge compared to your currently selected GPU (and stock will get snapped up like hotcakes), but the performance on both cards will be a significant upgrade on the 5600XT and would last you for years to come.

    At the very least, it should drive down the price of the 5600XT if you're set on that!

  • cybapete on 08/10/2020 - 20:48
    +1

    like the OP i am planning to buy a new computer and have been studying prices and reviews
    i'm considering just getting a good cheap video card for 1080p gaming now and maybe upgrading it for ray tracing later on once the dust settles

  • petebern on 09/10/2020 - 12:58
    +1

    I just built a similar system for a friend for $880. I agree with others that the x570 motherboard is more than you need - I have also built a 'more robust' system for myself with the x570 and it has, so far, cost $1770 but it does have 4 1TB Samsung SSD's in Raid 10 (which cost $676 less rebates alone).

    I used an ASRock B550-Matx($115) in the cheaper build with 16gb 3200 ram(Kingston HyperX) and the 3300x - an underrated cpu in my opinion. I only used a 450W because I knew power wouldn't be an issue but it is a Gigabyte Bronze 80+. I used the cheaper WD Blue 500gb nvme to save a few bucks. The big issue that most people seem to have is the GPU. I bought an ASUS Rog Strix RX570 8G OC for $215 - which some people have said 'why didn't you get the RX580 for a little more'. To that, I ask whether they have seen the stats on the Rog Strix card - it is better than most RX580's for $80 less(at least at the time I bought it). It overclocks easily and, due to the fact I only put in a 450W powerboard, it is perfect for my build - not all graphics cards are created equal otherwise why would we have people spending hours benchmarking them…. The only problem I had, despite having a small Midi case($59), is that there are not enough fan headers on the motherboard. The fans I bought are a little noisy and have molex 4 pin power daisy chain adapters that are not long enough to attach to additional fans. I have since ordered the Arctic P12 PWM PST from Amazon UK to replace them.

    Here's another tip from someone who has been doing this since 1996: PCPartPicker is great to see what is out there and what bits match but, if you have a local store that has prices close to those available, sometimes it is better to spend the extra money and pick all the parts up from the one place - factor in the return cost if you buy online because, inevitably, some parts will just not work. If you build a raport with a local shop sometimes things just go more smoothly. I have an MSY 5 minutes down the road but prefer to drive 15 mins to a UMART who, so far, seem to better with returns. Of course, if the price difference is significant such as $60 for 5 fans compared to $130+ locally then it is a no brainer.

    PC's are just so easy to build today - until something goes wrong like spending 2 days proving an MSI Tomahawk X570 was not working properly….

    Best of luck for your build. As others have stated spend in your limit but focus on power supply and GPU(if gaming is what you want).

  • [Deactivated] on 09/10/2020 - 15:13
    +1

    Hold off on the video card, or get a NVIDIA card on fire sales.

    AMD cards are in a bad spot right now with next gen cards coming out next month, that will tank the price of current AMD cards like they have for NVIDIA

    Over the last few weeks NVIDIA cards have been generally better bang for buck than AMD ones.

    The GTX 1660 Super is good value at $280 on sale. e.g. wait for something like https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/569657 again.

    or going up in price, $480 for a RTX 2060 Super https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/569640, or $580 for a RTX 2070 Super https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/571137

    If you're planning to keep it for a while I'd get a RTX for DLSS and RT. A 2060 super will probably be happy with high refresh rate, upscaled 1440p for years where as a 1660 super or 5600XT will struggle to keep up

    • Trackingtom on 09/10/2020 - 15:18

      Perfect, just the information I was looking for.

      Thank you.

  • HaveANiceDay on 09/10/2020 - 15:30

    If you want to futureproof it more, I'd reckon a 3600 is better due to games starting to use more cores.

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