Requirement:
3rd row comfortability
off-road
proper resell value
I have done some research:
a. Haval h9, Chinese car but the reviews seems good, but doubt its resell value.
b. Prado, however the engine seems weak, 130kw on a 2.3t SUV.
c. Patrol Ti, I can see people can got it around 70k in the beginning of the year, now the RRP is 85k, any reason being that?
Thanks for your advise.
what about a Kluger ?
Thirsty, AWD not 4x4, due for replacement in second quarter 2021
Pajero. Not the Pajero Sport, but the real Pajero. I chose the Pajero over the Prado. Powerful diesel engine, and well built in a bespoke factory in the heart of Japan. Go and do a test drive. They are comfortable and perform really well off road. I've taken mine through hell and back. Also the perfect mall crawler and long distance adventurer for my large family.
Your point being? I didn't say more powerful. It's got a good solid, very capable well proven engine.
Try and bargain for the new facelifted Patrol. Being in the car industry, you'd be surprised how much discount margins there are for new/demo cars during these Covid times. You have to be firm and strong in negotiation however. We always want a sale in the end.
Being in the car industry, you'd be surprised how much discount margins there are for new/demo cars during these Covid times.
Really? Little stock and you still want to clear out what you have? Sucks to be working for Nissan then lol
There isn't little stock. It depends what car you're after, not everyday you get someone coming in for a $100k Nissan Patrol.
Different story for Toyota…
Mazda CX9 base model, 43k brand new
Yeah, great car for 4wd off-roading. With that approach angle you won't have to go far looking for that missing bumper
It is heaps high off the ground
Isuzu MUX, one of the best 4WD around and just keeps going. Has the power, 3rd row space and takes on the 4wd easily.
Beats Everest in 3rd row space easily.
Even comes under your minimum spending amount. New model should be out late 2021 which means current will go down in price.
Drove a mates Isuzu MUX and found that to be quite impressive and have been considering that as next vehicle. Doesn't come with much bells and whistles, but guess it to be pretty reliable.
Not much support here for the Model… or am I missing something?
Support in what way?
There is aftermarket and all that. from what i've learnt from the dmax/mux facebook pages is not to take the car back to an Isuzu dealer for work, lots of issues. This is primarily for Brisbane based, not sure rest of country.
For a car that hasn't been changed in around 8-9 years it still holds it own. For less than $1000 you can easily get a Harrop elocker and still have money to spare to do more things to the car than you would buying another brand.
I'm loving my MUX, just did a drive from brisbane to ingleewood 2 weeks ago and was the easiest drive i've done in some time.
Oh, this is a forum that I have been living in for the last 4 weeks!!!
Mazda CX 9 drawbacks no air vents in 3rd row and what I read that new infotainment to be launched next year (when they won't tell us but already has in the USA)
Prado feels like a truck, very secured, and proper SUV but the interior outdated.
Kluger's new model awaited here as was pushed back from 2020 due to COVID.
KIA Sorento great techs but brand value lower than Mazda and Toyota.
Out of the cars listed the only actual 4x4 is the Prado.
Everything else is AWD and you'd not be taking off road.
dude the new kia looks amazing, if you are looking for a real workhorse you cant go past prado but it sounds like you are looking for a city SUV and the new 2021 kia sorento GT is the only car i would buy.
Not sure why you copped negs, it's a very well spec'd car for the price.
Pathfinder, best 3rd row. Best legroom. TVs in second row are great with HDMI input. Good sound system.
No Android auto but so what, it's overrated.
Prado every day.
Couldn't bring myself to buy a Nissan (Unless its an R32 GTR), unless the only option was Haval or Nissan in which case would be Nissan.
I'd steer so far clear of Haval, warranty or not.
Why so down on Nissan?
It’s like his dad drove a holden and wouldn’t even sit in a Ford. Just irrational thoughts the marketing company loves.
Pajero - before it goes out of production soon. Great value for money for what you get and now with a 10 year warranty. Very good resale value.
One downside is that the Mitsubishi diesel, while being a great motor, is a bit ragged and 'industrial'. Fuel consumption is not the greatest either.
BMW x3
Prado hands down or a second hand low km 200 series LC
I'm in the market much like you @hfwangau.
We drove both Patrol and Prado and really loved the Patrol drive. I also have found a dealer doing a great deal on Patrol, for the price of a Prado VX, which is a more equivalent comparison to Patrol Ti.
But, looking at the roads I am getting cold feet, as I cant seem to find a single Patrol in a whole days worth of driving in Brisbane, where there are so many 4wd. I get it that Patrol uses more fuel, but $ for $, its a much better vehicle than Prado. Its the biggest money I'll spend after the house, so I am actually thinking really hard, on why don't I see so many Patrols, when its a lot better deal. Yes I get it that their fuel usage is high, and that in out back you need more range. However, I have driven in NT and still found unleaded petrol, which the patrol can take.
The new Patrol looks better, feels better and is a more spacious car. Also, My wife and I both liked driving it and it actually had a more softer ride and steering as compared to Prado, which felt hard.
How many Prado owners actually go and drive those long distances, where petrol isnt availble ? it just seem irrational.
Australians love a diesel, and they love a Toyota. Case in point, the current Hilux, Prado and Landcruiser were all available as petrols, but they were discontinued here due to poor sales. In the case of the Prado, only 1% of sales were petrols (source). I agree with what you're saying though - there's not many places where an unavailability of unleaded is a genuine concern, and I wouldn't be interested in going quite that remote anyway. I think the fascination with diesel is more with the longer touring range for convenience (and also if you're towing, as diesels don't tend to be quite as affected consumption-wise).
agreed with you on the genral acceptance of diesels.
As for towing mileage, there are many articles and youtube videos where a towing comparison is done between cruiser and Patrol and Patrol was either same or better. Seems more to do with perception than anything else.
PS: i paid deposit on Patrol and expecting it soon, just cant take a prado, which doesnt represent good value for the price point its at.
Congrats on the Patrol, but when you see rated fuel consumption figures around town of 20L/100km, it kinda explains why people would rather a diesel
You will lose less money with Haval H9 plus you will get 7yr warranty. My wife has a H6 and it has served us well for 4 years. No rattle or warranty claims.