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Breville Dose Control Pro Coffee Grinder $169 (Free Pickup, $7.90 Delivery) @ BIG W

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Just came across this, also first post 👋

Ends tomorrow (18th November 2020) - Part of their online only deals.

Product Features:
Precision Electronic Timer delivers a consistent dose every time
60 Grind Settings from Espresso to Plunger
Includes Adjustable Razor Dosing Tool
Adjustable amount dial
340g bean hopper
Stainless steel conical burr grinder
Hands-free grinding cradle
High torque, direct current drive motor
Removable grinds tray
Dosing tool compartment

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  • +29

    Unless you need it now, you're better off waiting for the Smart Grinder Pro to go on sale for the same price. Basically the same grinder, but with LCD screen and easier to adjust.

    • +1

      Is that much of a drop likely to happen?

      • +10

        It's regularly at 159, I think thats the OZRRP (Ozbargain RRP e.g. TimTam's 1.82)

        • wow, good to know, thanks.

        • +11

          I was lost in darkness and the example showed me light.

    • So this would have the same crappy plastic main drive gear too

  • +1

    This and a Bambino or a Barista express/pro?

    • Probably would only need this with a bambino as the other two have inbuilt grinders.

      • Thx mate. $550~ for Bambino+Grinder or just get an all in one express/pro for 600-800~

        • +5

          I'd probably go the Bambino + Grinder.

          That way you can upgrade either the grinder/machine when you want/need to.

          Bambino also has the automatic milk frothing/texturing which I've heard works quite well.

        • +6

          The Bambino has the auto frother. I've got one and it's amazing. I don't know why you would ever go back to a manual one. I get my coffee from Little Marionette in Sydney and they bought a load of Bambinos and Smart Grinder Pros to do annual coffee subscription deals. The manager said that he can get just as good a coffee from that combo to the $20k coffee machine and grinder they have in their cafe. He said the only difference was in the poor quality extraction that the double wall filter gives but that is a $10 problem to solve.

        • +2

          Where are you getting a bambino for $381?

    • another vote for the bambino. I have one and it is great!

    • +1

      I have the bambino (regularly on sale at good guys commercial for about $350) and the smart grinder pro ($170-odd I think).

      Can’t believe how good the coffee is. The auto frother on the bambino is easy to use and effective.

      Edit: the black coloured Bambino is on sale at TGG Commercial for $369, but has been as low as $326. (https://www.thegoodguyscommercial.com.au/breville-bambino-pl…)

  • +12

    Better off waiting for the new grinders. Breville just bought out baratza on October 1st. This will be a game changer!

    • +1

      That is interesting news! I didn't realise Breville had done that.

      I've been using a Breville Smart Pro for the last couple of years. I did look at Baratza when considering my next grinder, but ended up ordering a Niche Zero. Should ship early next month.

      • +1

        Good choice - the niche zero looks to be an awesome grinder!

      • How does the Niche Zero compare to the Smart Pro?

        • +2

          They are completely different beasts - and the price differential gives that away pretty quickly.

          I don't have time to compare them directly, but the key features of the Niche Zero (NZ) that sets it apart are:

          The Niche has large industrial conical burrs.

          The NZ is designed as a single dosing machine - no hopper on top. For me, that's the perfect workflow.

          It's also faster, and quieter than the Breville.

          Small adjustments are more refined to make as you 'dial in' your grind.

          It will give you more consistency in your grind size, and shoot out fluffier grinds, than the SGP.

          The Niche is also designed to minimise any retention of grounds. Some grinders (SGP included) can hold onto a few grams.

          And, finally, it's an awesome design (but, design is a personal thing and some won't like it).

          I've enjoyed using the Breville, but it's noisy and slow and does clump a bit. It's also not greater at courser grinds - and this is well commented about online.

          For all that, there is no grinder that will tick everyone's boxes, and some people will only buy machines with flat burrs!

          If you enjoy your coffee, and the experience of making espresso, then it's all okay. Many people start with the smart grinder pro - it's a great learning grinder. For some, it will be all they ever need/want.

          • +1

            @fookos: Thanks for that. Yup, looked at the price and just spent that much on Kaffelogic Nano 7 roaster so need to behave myself for a little while. :) Will definitely keep an eye on what Breville does with it's new inquisition though. :)

            • +1

              @EightImmortals: 'acquisition' :(

            • @EightImmortals: Cool - how are you finding the Kaffelogic? I haven't really considered roasting my own, and that's a whole other learning curve!

              Actually, where do you buy green beans from? I've never even looked. And, setup costs aside, is it cheaper to buy and roast your own compared with purchasing roasted - or is it around the same and more just about the experience and having that control?

              • +1

                @fookos: Only had it a couple of weeks but so far it's awesome. I was roasting with a popcorn machine but the Nano7 is next level and if you shop around the NZ sellers you can save a few hundred $ over local prices (PM me for further info). Have done three roasts and they have all been a success, the beans are evenly roasted and taste great. The machine is easy to use and comes with a USB stick with programs on it and I just pick the elevation data for the beans I'm roasting and off it goes. Or you can just use the generic settings. You can walk off and leave it and come back 10 minutes later and they are ready to go. It also has a 'ready to drink' program if you want the beans right away or a 'wait' program for grinding 3-5 days later. 100 grams will last us most of a week as we usually only have 1 cup a day. Or you can roast back to back if you need more or want to make blends.

                I get the green beans from coffeesnobs beanbay and they work out to around $12-$15 per KG or thereabouts as opposed to $50 a KG for their roasted beans (yes you can buy roasted for cheaper but we've the CS beans to taste the nicest for us), and the green beans will stay stored for a couple of years so no need to worry about them going off if you don't get to drink them on time.

                (or you just to play you can get the $20 popcorn maker from Target, remove the lid (or it will melt) pop in 75gms of green beans (no more!) and see how you go. The Nano is a HUGE leap beyond that though.)

                • +1

                  @EightImmortals: Oh, now you have my attention! I like the sound of this. Thanks for the info :)

            • @EightImmortals: Wow that's a cool looking roaster. How do you manage with only 120g at a time? Do you do multiple batches? I roast 2 batches of 400g in my home made roaster, which lasts about a week here and the beans really only come into their own after about 4 days post roast.

              • @bargainshooter: I suppose if you're dosing 18g, you'd only get about six double espressos out of each batch.

              • @bargainshooter: 100gm will last us most of the week usually so it's not a problem. Or I might roast 2 lots back to back, 20 minutes tops and no need to wait 3-5 days. :)

          • @fookos: That would be amazing if wanting to use different beans for each espresso, without relying on multiple grinders. Well jealous!

            • +1

              @bargainshooter: It also has a 'cupping' mode if you're into that kind of thing.

              • @EightImmortals: Man, now I want one of these.

                I watched a video review the other night and looks simple, compact and just plain cool.

                I know there's some computing and algorithm action going on in there for each profile, but it does seem a little pricey for its function.

                Sub $1K would have been great, but I'll keep tabs on it. I think I've spent enough on my espresso desires this year, but there might be a Kaffelogic with my name on it in 2021 ;)

                • @fookos: Yeah no worries, was a bit of an extravagance for us too but managed to get a few hundred off by shopping around the NZ dealers. Was about $1200 AUD all up delivered.

                  • @EightImmortals: Thanks mate. I did check out a few NZ traders online and does seem around that. Nice to see a product come out of NZ. Did you have any issues with GST/duty at the border, given it's over the AUD$1,000 threshold?

  • +1

    Anybody tried it with a NutriBullet instead? How was it?

    • +2

      Tried what? This is a burr grinder, not a blade chopper.

  • Why people think they need a thousand dollar grinder? There's a guy on YouTube using a grinder that costs twice as much as his espresso machine and he reckons coffee tastes better. Crazy stuff.

    • +9

      Why do people think they need a thousand dollar headphones? Or thousand dollar anything?

      There are diminishing returns, but there are still returns (in grind consistency/distribution, retention, heat, etc). And whether people are happy to pay the premium for the return is up to them, and their tastebuds.

      FWIW, the common advice is to spend AT LEAST as much on the grinder as the machine - and many would say 2x or 3x on the grinder IS the right amount to spend! (The grinder being the second most important thing, after the beans.)

      Each to their own.

      (FWIW, I have a $160 grinder.) :)

    • +7

      It's because the grinder is responsible for preparation of the ingredient.

      If your grinder does an uneven and clumpy grind you're not going to get an even extraction.

      The way it grinds the coffee can absolutely alter the extraction and resulting flavour profile as the shape of the grind impacts surface area etc.

      I know the above will sound wanky to some, but espresso is a hobby. Grinders are a tool.

      If you aren't into the detail, don't worry about it. If you are, then the grinder is key.

      And, for many, the grinder is the mainstay of your setup, while you are more likely to change or upgrade your coffee machine every so often.

      EDIT: As per comment above - retention is also annoying in cheaper grinders - particularly if you're regularly changing between different beans. You end up wasting coffee, flushing the thing out each time you change.

      • -1

        It's a niche market and people willing to pay for it.

        But I don't believe there's a taste difference between a $200 and a $1000 grinder.

        At the end the day most decent grinders use the same conical burr mechanism, to say that fancy grinders have special metal that can grind 99.999% of beans to exactly 225 microns that results better tasting coffee is a non-sense. In reality when 9 bars of hot water rushing through the basket it makes no difference to what's coming out at the bottom.

        High end grinders are expensive because they are commercial grade built to handle few kilos of beans a day. Some may have electronic and dynamic dosing control which is nice. People mistakenly think that they are paying for the consistency to make better coffee, and manufacturers capitalise on this myth. It's totally unnecessary for home use, but it is a hobby to some which becomes a necessity.

        • +10

          Wow - I disagree with almost every single thing you have said in your post (from the premise, to your assertions, to your conclusions, and everything in between!).

          But that's all good, we can agree to disagree. I doubt I would change your mind on anything, and you are certainly not changing mine! So let's just enjoy whatever coffee we enjoy, and leave it at that! :)

        • Lol

    • +2

      Grinder is definitely more important than the machine for taste, I wouldn't spend a thousand bucks but if I had the means then why not? I won't knock it, definitely found nice hand grinders give a way better end product then an equivalent consumer grade electric (e.g. Breville, Baratza, etc.) for the same amount of money.

      • Agree, there are not many components to coffee. Water, coffee and milk if you drink it with milk. So why go cheap on any of those? Even minute changes in the grind can totally impact the flavour of the coffee. But everyone is different, a lot of people buy stale beans by the kilo or whatever is on sale at Coles/Woolies and think it tastes amazing, and maybe it does to them but there is no comparison to buying better freshly roasted beans.

        • I roast at home and often the coffee I make tastes great (imho - especially the columbian exelso and a few other varieties/blends) but sometimes the beans taste no better than the 1kg lavazza I get as backup when on sale from coles/woolies.

  • Is Baratza likely to go on sale?

    • +1

      this is what I would like to know. Or has it gone on special before.

      Because it is more money compared to the smart pro..

    • +2

      I'd expect them to keep it as their premium grinder brand - but they may use some of the Baratza IP to improve/alter some of their Breville line. Just thinking aloud and speculating!

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