Will You Be Trying to Boycott Chinese Products?

maxyzee on 01/12/2020 - 20:00
Last edited 02/12/2020 - 09:00

Hey All

With the diplomatic row between Aus and China over the last few weeks culminating in the tweets from the Chinese embassy, there’s been an obvious rising of tensions between the countries.

Given how ridiculous and ironic china’s position is, to have the gall to call out Australia for human rights abuses do you feel more strongly about trying to avoid products manufactured in China?

The report itself was Australia holding itself to account, it could have easily been covered up never to see the light of day but Australia relative to the rest of the world is one with more integrity than that.

I don’t see how China could ever lecture a country like Australia when it comes to war crimes/human rights abuse given their long track record, most notably the persecution of the Uighur population as well numerous other violations ranging from censorship to imprisonment/torture of dissidents. I don’t see China holding itself to account for those crimes anytime soon.

I like the idea in theory of boycotting Chinese made products but the reality is unfortunately from my perspective is that the supply chain is far too integrated in China to be able to boycott anything. Hopefully western businesses are more incentivised now to move their supply chains away from China but that will a long and slow process over many years possibly decades.

So TLDR will you be trying to avoid Chinese made products or are we in a situation that these products are so pervasive with our current lifestyles there’s nothing we can really do at the moment.

Edit: Poll added. Good suggestion.

Poll Options

  • 839
    Yes I will and do avoid Chinese made products wherever I can
  • 34
    Yes but only if the equivalent product is the same price and quality
  • 333
    Would like to avoid but can’t because of limited choice/availability/price
  • 239
    Don’t care whatever’s cheapest
  • 133
    Don’t care at all and would still buy Chinese made even if there was a choice of equivalent produc
General Discussion

Comments

  • ghostdom on 06/12/2020 - 02:56
    +5

    Boycotting Chinese made product? How about changing this site from Ozbargain to OZoverpriced?

    • D3HUN on 06/12/2020 - 09:38
      +2

      No need to change, it is called OzBargain, not OzDodgy.

  • PAPower on 06/12/2020 - 10:47
    +2

    The whole thing about doctored image and war crimes in Afghan is just absurd! It is not about China apologizing Australia, it is about Australia apologising Afghani victims. Regardless of what China did or didn't do, we still have to stand up, investigate and apologise Afghani victims.

    • oO0Dam0Oo on 06/12/2020 - 12:08
      +1

      Which is exactly what’s happening including monetary compensation for the families (not that that is any comfort).

      It’s not the cartoon itself, rather it was posted by a CPP government spokesperson with malicious intent without opposition from the government.

    • [Deactivated] on 06/12/2020 - 17:20
      +5

      yeah right, like China gives a shit about that.

      Just another thing China is trying to distract the world from seeking compensation from China.

      Fuuuccckkkk you Winnie the Pooh

  • ganymede on 06/12/2020 - 16:08
    +7

    What's wrong with China calling Australia out on war crimes? Just because China has a long track record of war crimes/human rights abuse and that delegitimise China's position?

    • oO0Dam0Oo on 06/12/2020 - 21:05
      +5

      No one is disputing that Australia should be called out for war crimes, rather the manner in which it was done.

      • ganymede on 06/12/2020 - 22:45

        So this is a politically correctness issue?

        • D3HUN on 08/12/2020 - 11:30

          Can you imagine this the opposite way? Face important for other countries too.

    • Cluster on 07/12/2020 - 10:11
      +4

      The difference is Australia investigated the issue and is bringing the perpetrators to justice. Do you think that would be allowed in China? Could Chinese media even report on abuses by the Chinese military?

      And to be sure, I really don't give a toss about the image. Our PM overacted and didn't have to feed the trolls. I'm far more concerned about billions of dollars of trade being effectively banned.

      • petry on 07/12/2020 - 11:28
        +2

        australia has known about the war crimes for over 5 years… things sure move slow around here…justice is a dead concept now

  • Willco88 on 06/12/2020 - 19:03
    +4

    EVERYTHING comes from China these days

  • Tiredman on 06/12/2020 - 20:59
    +6

    If i boycott everything from China, i will be walking to work semi nude, living in an empty house.

    • virhlpool on 07/12/2020 - 00:40
      +2

      I reckon very soon you will start getting covered and your house will start getting filled as stuff from other places make their way to you, with some effort of yours. Nothing is permanent.

      • techno2000 on 07/12/2020 - 10:23
        +6

        Clothes are made in bangladesh and India makes plenty of shoes.So i dont get this!!

        Furniture can be made in lots of other countries.

        Tv's in taiwan,vietnam,india etc.

        My Samsung Note 10+ is made in vietnam.

        Iphones are now being made/assembled in India as well.

        • Tiredman on 07/12/2020 - 10:40

          Like a lot of Ozbargains, my house is filled with things from Gearbest, Dealextreme and Xiaomi.

        • virhlpool on 07/12/2020 - 11:03

          @techno2000 Exactly my point.. My house would be empty too but not for too long. It's not that no other country makes anything.. and the countries are already working on trade agreements and supply chain which have been missing.

        • matthewdeepblue on 08/12/2020 - 14:01
          +1

          if you open your India TV and Samsung made in Vietnam, you still could find a lot of components from China. :)

    • Dr Prepper on 08/12/2020 - 12:44

      asl?

  • mrhanky71 on 07/12/2020 - 08:32
    +4

    Australia has boycotted 5g and Huawei and china has boycotted so many Australian products.
    I think if we boycott more things, they will probably retaliate in the same way.
    Who has more to lose here?

    • virhlpool on 07/12/2020 - 09:42
      +3

      If we can't boycott and they can't boycott then there has to be some solution.. right? If the solution is to diversify our sourcing slowly and consistently, then be it. We can't just do nothing about it. It's not just China - depending on any one country is risky. Plus, it's important to have domestic manufacturing industry developed over the time.

      • petry on 07/12/2020 - 11:26
        +6

        we now rely on 1 country - america - that's where all our news comes from

      • mrhanky71 on 07/12/2020 - 16:07
        +2

        the solution is to accept what's happened and hope things get better. And don't forget to put a sock in ScoMo's mouth.

        • virhlpool on 07/12/2020 - 17:09

          hope things get better.

          How? How will we diversify sourcing and start manufacturing more? I guess that should be the prime focus.

          • petry on 07/12/2020 - 18:36
            +1

            @virhlpool: clearly we'll buy more american products instead of lower quality at higher prices - whoops we already are…

  • ImpulseMan on 07/12/2020 - 10:57
    +3

    Changing our reliance on Chinese products won't happen overnight. Just like our reliance didn't happen overnight either.

    I think government policy definitely needs a rethink though.

    One measure i would take is target our overseas aid to future manufacturing partners. Use our aid to build up the economies of poorer nations through supporting them as a new manufacturing hub. Being involved in this way may also give us an opportunity to encourage fairer employment conditions in these countries - ones we as consumers are not embarrassed/ashamed about supporting.

    Two, domestic industry needs to be supported for new tech so that Australia can lead the way in future technological offerings rather than reliance on commodity exports. We can only dominate exports via complex manufacturing and tech offerings. We have the expertise and the education systems to do this. We need to be aggressive in this field to attract investment as well. Tax incentives, such as; no payroll tax, high company tax thresholds, government matching investments with targeted grants.

    You can say a lot of things about China but we can take a leaf out of their book when it comes to forward economic planning. The are not even shy about their dual economy plans discussed recently.

    When was the last time Australia had a domestic forum to reach a consensus for our economic goals for the next decade?

    Our first lesson should be in naivety……

    Failure to plan is planning to fail.

    • petry on 07/12/2020 - 11:24
      +2

      we have a plan… to die for america

      • Dr Prepper on 07/12/2020 - 11:44
        +1

        Kent Brockman : "One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves."

  • jv on 07/12/2020 - 11:23
    +1

    As a start, we've stopped eating Chicken in black bean sauce…

    • petry on 07/12/2020 - 11:25
      +1

      back to plumrose ham then for chrissie - support your country - american made…

      • jv on 07/12/2020 - 11:29
        +1

        support your country - american made…

        but Brazilian owned…

        • petry on 07/12/2020 - 18:45

          'Brazil's J&F Investimentos, parent company of the world's largest meatpacker, JBS SA JBSS3.SA, pleaded guilty to U.S. foreign bribery charges and agreed to pay $128.25 million in criminal fines, prosecutors said on Wednesday.

          In Brazil, its top executives have admitted to bribing more than 1,900 politicians to advance their business interests - especially JBS’s expansion - and secure low-cost financing from state-run banks.'

          yeah they robbed the local brazilian banks and pension schemes to fund such acquisitions and paid a lot of yanks a lot of bribes, and still american made shit…

  • Dr Prepper on 07/12/2020 - 11:42
    +1

    Scotty from Marketing just made us the Melians if US and China are caught in a Thucydides Trap (https://www.belfercenter.org/thucydides-trap/overview-thucyd…)

    The Siege of Melos: In History of the Peloponnesian War (Book 5, Chapters 84–116) Thucydides.The Athenians offer the Melian Islanders an ultimatum: surrender and pay tribute to Athens, or be destroyed. The Athenians do not wish to waste time arguing over the morality of the situation, because in practice might makes right—or, in their own words, "the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must".

    The Melians argue that they are a independent city-state and not an enemy, so Athens has no need to conquer them. The Athenians counter that if they accept Melos' independence, they would look weak: Their subjects would think that they left Melos alone because they were not strong enough to conquer it.

    After toilet paper the next shortage is going to be petroleum jelly.

    https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/1995/?goog…

  • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 12:00
    +2

    Did we boycott Muslim products after all those terrorist killings and terrorist plots? The answer is NO.

    • Dr Prepper on 07/12/2020 - 13:21
      +2

      Correct we did not boycott their main product. We said to them "Read our lips - we want your oil!

      • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 13:37
        +2

        Who is we? All oil prices are set by OPEC who pushed Russia and the US shale industry out of business by oversupply. Oil isn't really as valuable anymore compared to the 70s, kid. This mentality of wanting oil is overly simplistic and ignores the actions that Saddam had perpetrated during the Iran-Iraq and Gulf wars etc.

    • justwii on 07/12/2020 - 13:55
      -2

      Errr, so were you pissed off it wasn't the case?

      • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 13:59

        Pissed off? Go home buttercake.

        • justwii on 07/12/2020 - 14:40
          -1

          Still confused. Did you mean Muslim products weren't being boycotted back then so shouldn't be boycotting PRC products now or you mean we are boycotting PRC products now so why didn't Muslim products be boycotted cause you like the idea so much?

          • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 15:05
            +1

            @justwii: Well i think i have made my point very clear. I am neither pissed nor do i believe that just because X didn't happen that Y shouldn't since they are mutually exclusive events. I mean Muslims who by faith have a mission to convert as many non-believers as possible just like how Saudi Arabia sponsors billions of dollars overseas to construct mosques and Islamic schools seems far more insidious. It's obviously righteous if you are Muslim, but Austria and Germany have been closing down Mosques and Islamic schools due to subversion and fanaticism going on. I mean that China is never going to invade Australia considering that it's national focuses have gravitated towards economic rebuilding yet why do Australians believe so? The last time China went full military crazy was from the 1950 to 1980s where tank and plane production was in the thousands but still nowhere as ridiculous as the Soviet Union. China nowadays is more focused on technological research such as sending spacecrafts to the moon and the economy. Conducting military exercises with a coalition of governments isn't making this political situation any better.

            • tonyjzx on 07/12/2020 - 15:16
              +1

              @BeoWulf: I wonder what you would say about lying about WMDs to invade Iraq?

              • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 15:27
                -1

                @tonyjzx: Well have you read the working papers submitted by the intelligence agency's from the US, UK, France etc? Like i said, it's really pointless arguing anything since all your sources are from media outlets and paycheck journalists. All working papers and former top Iraqi scientists highlight that Iraq had developed chemical weapons from the Iran-Iraq war. The missile payload and technology that Iraq possessed was also capable of delivering chemical strikes of limited distance. Iraq in the 1990s was also in midst developing nuclear technology. The Senior Bush and Clinton adminstrations in the meantime had been trying to dismantle all their programs. It actually worked. I mean if you question how smart the people who work at the intelligence agencies then you must be working in a very simple job. You don't land a position in the top echelons of government by being a conspiracy theorist, you actually have to be intelligent and by that, means better than 90% of all ozbargainers.

                • tonyjzx on 07/12/2020 - 16:22

                  @BeoWulf: strange way to avoid the question i guess…

                  • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 16:23
                    -2

                    @tonyjzx: You said "lying". Can you even prove that they lied? There's a difference between intention though i am fairly sure you don't understand what that means.

                    • tonyjzx on 07/12/2020 - 16:27
                      +3

                      @BeoWulf: with all due respect, i'm going to not continue any further conversation with you from this point on.

                      I see no reason to talk to someone who believes that that war was not built on a lie.

                      We ok?

                      • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 16:36
                        -2

                        @tonyjzx: And from that point on, you revealed yourself to be mediocre at best.

                • petry on 07/12/2020 - 18:49
                  +1

                  @BeoWulf: mate you get a job by making it plain you will say whatever they want you to say - if you think oz intelligence services are very intelligent you need to provide some evidence because mostly there quals consist of american periods of residence…

                  • BeoWulf on 10/12/2020 - 17:04

                    @petry: No buddy, the recruitment team looks at your grades from university and the university that you went to. If you happen to be top 10% of your class from a top university then you get a chance to move on to IQ, EQ and aptitude tests in order to get to the interview stage. Intelligence agencies just like the investment banking industry for eg. are one of hardest places to land a job.

                    • petry on 10/12/2020 - 23:37

                      @BeoWulf: if you think the brightest get to the top why are most 5 eyes countries policies laws and systems failing at an exponential rate, and crime and corruption flourishing or more simply - all of their democracies are failing and more of the middle classes are becoming poorer…. we ship yanky trained in because they have no morals…

                      • BeoWulf on 11/12/2020 - 10:24

                        @petry: Because the elected politicans don't care about the people and everything is just a popularity contest these days sadly.

            • justwii on 07/12/2020 - 16:15

              @BeoWulf: No way CCP is not "invading", they have been infiltrating government agencies, medias.

              • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 16:25
                +1

                @justwii: If that is your definition of "invading" then you must be one damn special individual.

                • justwii on 07/12/2020 - 16:41

                  @BeoWulf: What your invasion definition is hot war exclusive?

                  • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 16:54

                    @justwii: I have never understood what you have been on about or your central idea. You can get prepared for your "imaginery invasion". There are real people on the other hand who are being indoctrinated as of this moment who willing to kill at random in the name of religion.

                    • justwii on 07/12/2020 - 18:00
                      -1

                      @BeoWulf: Then I don't know what you are barking here too, trying to tell people Muslim is the real threat and shift people's eyes on CCP infiltration propaganda away? CCP has Confucius Institutes too if you so fear the "mission" of Muslim.

                      • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 23:20

                        @justwii: Maybe because people don't go out on the streets beheading people in the name of the CCP?

  • testert on 07/12/2020 - 14:00
    +3

    It looks like some of us try to boycott Chinese products by not shopping local businesses who already purchased the products from China.
    I do not really get it. With the economy situation like right now, do we still have any excuse to punish our own Australian business?
    To be clear, I do not think any of these click the "Yes I will and do avoid Chinese made products wherever I can" means “I would not fly to China and shopping there!”. All you do, just not buy the things in your local shop. This is not patriotism, it is more nationalism. Same as those US Trump supporters.

  • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 14:24
    +8

    Maybe if the Australian government also admitted to the mounting cases of verbal and physical attacks against Asians since February then something could have been resolved. Asian countries including China repeatedly said to take preventative measures yet Scomo replied something along the lines of "Australians aren't racist, it was just an improbable concidence that all the hundreds of reported cases of people attacked were Asian. Telling an Asian person that they have corona and to (profanity) off to China isn't racist and is just Australian hospitality". In all honestly, Australian's getting paranoid about the "CCP" and China is really amusing just like how all Western European countries fear Russian dominance and Russia turning off the gas pipes. The difference to China is that Australia is only a minor trading partner in all aspects, replaceable and insignificant.

    • testert on 07/12/2020 - 15:55

      Some people are still talking about CCP "only". However, the fact is there is no way as a "proud Australia patriot" to show how much they hate CCP. Any Asian face in Australia just become easy target.

      • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 16:00
        +4

        So to be a "proud Australia patriot" is to hate the "CCP". That still doesn't change that vicious assaults occurred and doesn't make you seem any smarter. It also shows how "patriots" are by natural instinct are suppose "hate the CCP" like programmed robots. Am I correct?

        • testert on 07/12/2020 - 16:31
          -2

          I think communism is atheism. History wise, Austrlia is Anglo–Celtic heritage Christian values. So, correct. against communism is political correctness.

          • BeoWulf on 07/12/2020 - 16:37
            +2

            @testert: That doesn't even make sense. Currently Australia is secular. I can't imagine Scomo telling everybody to go to Church on the weekends.

            • testert on 07/12/2020 - 17:16

              @BeoWulf: Check the reglion group voters. Let me put this way: church are still rich, they can put influnce in media, in gov. Christian values was writen in book for citizenship test. I think it was removed around 2010 when Labor took over.

            • tonyjzx on 07/12/2020 - 17:17
              +2

              @BeoWulf: But I can imagine passing legislation that gives benefits to his particular faith and pushing govt. funding preferentially to his denomination…

            • petry on 07/12/2020 - 18:52

              @BeoWulf: scomo aint secular - his church was founded by a pedo wasn't it?

    • Tiredman on 07/12/2020 - 20:14
      +5

      The amount of shit Asians copped by wearing masks early in the pandemic is ridiculous.

      Hope mask wearing will be a normal courtesy act in future even for colds and flu.

      • CalmLemons on 07/12/2020 - 22:24
        +4

        I just started my rotation at the children's hospital.

        Admissions were down astronomically during covid lockdown due to mask wearing and kids not being at school and wfm.

        A lot of rch admissions are due to respiratory illness during winter.

        Take it for what you will.

        Also remember, when you get sick, someone who has dedicated their entire life to healthcare has to treat you, and risk their lives and their family to help you.

        Wear a mask.

        Just because we never wore masks when we had cold and flu symptoms, doesn't mean we can't start. Change is inevitable. Be bold, have courage and let it start with you.

        • Tiredman on 07/12/2020 - 23:12
          +1

          Agree. Great to hear from someone with first hand knowledge. You guys are the real MVPs.

  • ninjataki on 07/12/2020 - 16:20

    You're just gonna upset all the lefties, nwos and great resetters starting topics like this. Don't you know that every single problem in the world today is the blame of the white caucasion male? 😉

    • tonyjzx on 07/12/2020 - 16:21
      +1

      for 39 afghans it certainly was

      • petry on 07/12/2020 - 18:52

        and the dozens of others..

  • Muddy on 07/12/2020 - 20:03
    -3

    Please, if you're going to comment, write in English. This thread is really hard to read!

  • [Deactivated] on 07/12/2020 - 22:28
    +6

    I've been buying Australian-owned, grown and made for a while, where possible. Made in America, England, etc. Japan and other non-mainland-Chinese Asian countries is good with me too.

    Some items are more expensive, but not by that much, and I feel great satisfaction. I refuse to eat any food product originating from China. Not worth the poison risk. My health is important.

    • petry on 07/12/2020 - 23:55

      I'm not seeing why you believe those yank countries are safe

      • D3HUN on 08/12/2020 - 08:23

        Every year, 125million people in the WHO Western Pacific Region become ill from contaminated food, causing more than 50,000 deaths.Aflatoxin is the leading cause of foodborne disease deaths with more than 10,000 people estimated to develop liver cancer due it every year, with the disease proving fatal in nine out of 10 people.The Western Pacific Region also has the highest death rate from foodborne parasites, particularly the Chinese liver fluke (Clonorchis sinensis), Echinococcus multilocularis and the pork tapeworm.

        The WHO Region of the Americas is estimated to have the second lowest burden of foodborne diseases globally with 77million people falling ill every year with an estimated 9000 deaths annually.

        The WHO European Region has the lowest estimated burden globally, more than 23million people ill from unsafe food every year, resulting in 5000 deaths.

        Source: WHO

        • mychips on 08/12/2020 - 08:41

          Source: WHO

          Yes and your point is?

          WHO Western Pacific Region population is several times that of the region of the Americas and it includes many countries, not only China but also Australia.

          The information you used does not indicate much other than the Western Pacific Region has more food poisoning.

          • D3HUN on 08/12/2020 - 08:46

            @mychips: The point was to react to the one comment above.

            I'm not seeing why you believe those yank countries are safe

            • petry on 08/12/2020 - 12:27

              @D3HUN: but your rejoinder is inaccurate, and the uk under yank direction has abandoned best quality food controls….

      • monkeyfood on 08/12/2020 - 17:48
        +1

        Because they don't mix plastic into baby formula for a start

    • ganymede on 08/12/2020 - 12:31
      +5

      You forgot the British Empire colonised a big part of the world and exploited their resources?

      You forgot USA involvements in Vietnam war, Gulf war, Syria war etc?

      You forgot Japan's 2nd world war atrocities?

  • Myone888 on 08/12/2020 - 08:13
    +1

    Whatever boycott won’t affect china’s economy. They are too big economically. What is our population of around 30million vs 1.4 billion? They have the economy of scale.

    • techno2000 on 08/12/2020 - 08:22

      Of course not.This has to be replicated across the world.
      And i think it will happen.

      Right now in most countries everything they look at is made in china.
      The goal should be that in 2030 everything should NOT be made in china.

      Of course China will still continue to threaten everyone.
      It is the nature of the beast.
      North Korea is starving but still belligerent.

      But at least the world will be better protected.

    • oO0Dam0Oo on 08/12/2020 - 13:34

      I don't believe anyone seriously thinks that this would make an impact on China economically, rather a political statement of non confidence in the CCP. Personally I think that keeping trade open is important but both countries have to respect each others differences and independence. Bullish tariffs do not support this.

  • striker5950 on 08/12/2020 - 09:40
    +1

    if every western country boycotts china, china will be brought down to their knees and pay compensation, but you know what? that wont happen, because western countries like America love money too much and such actions would lead to bad business.

    • testert on 08/12/2020 - 13:25
      +1

      It is capitalism. I thought capital is better than ideology. The world went chaos when ideology leads the way; capital on the other hand is much more objective, or, lets say relative smart.

      • [Deactivated] on 08/12/2020 - 14:29

        Agreed.

        Also, those calling for boycotting simply have no clue what is demand and supply. The reason why there is an influx of cheaper goods, be it from China or any other country, is because there's a market here. People can't afford more expensive alternatives. Don't think that Australians are stupid. If I can afford a Versace or a Porsche, I'd be more than happy to get it rather than something from China or a Toyota.

      • justwii on 08/12/2020 - 20:35
        +1

        So true. Now try to explain why CCP is doing something so illogical to damage its own economy.

        • testert on 09/12/2020 - 09:17

          Cause it is neither communism/socialism nor capitalism China is practicing. They just do whatever works, and, give a name to avoid stuck with the ideology.
          Clearly, economy is not everything, however, without economy it would be nothing.
          The damage Austrlian products can do towards China is like nothing. The puchase power from Australia towards China is not much as well.
          When we banned Huawei 5G, from Huawei’s Vice Chairman: "the entire Australian telecommunications market is smaller than the size of Guangzhou Mobile and the New Zealand market is smaller than that of his hometown – a mid-sized city in Hunan Province", so “losing a few countries really doesn’t matter.”

          • justwii on 09/12/2020 - 23:19
            +2

            @testert: If it is so insignificant, why CCP reacted? Such an illogical trading partner, yet people still want to do business with it?

            • testert on 10/12/2020 - 15:22

              @justwii: CCP did not react on economy impact Australia brings. CCP reacted on Australia political stands. Let's put that way, mosquito bit won't kill (in most cases), a person would still smash it; cause a person can, and there is not mcuh downside of it. China is expecting Australia to be a partner, not just trading partner. If Australia cannot do it, China just look into other places.
              BTW, make money is never about logical, it is about making money. Imaging, if a company always fires ppl, but they offer high salary, ppl still want the job.

              • justwii on 20/12/2020 - 02:42
                -1

                @testert: Hope you have read the news that CCP is backfiring themselves after banning Australian coal. So as I said, CCP has been acting illogical, even on the economic side, what they are doing is just hurting themselves.

  • Cluster on 08/12/2020 - 15:05
    +3

    I don't think anyone should think a boycott by some consumers will have a real effect on anything Beijing does. It obviously won't when you compare population sizes, the economies, and how much we import from China versus their other exports to the rest of world.

    But doing nothing about the problem is also not palatable. It's like the people who at every election say 'my vote doesn't make any difference among millions'. Individually that's true, but if consumers change their shopping habits in large numbers it may have an effect on exporters, who then complain to Beijing that Australians don't want to buy their products any more. Companies like Apple who have clout in China may complain to Beijing if consumers start rejecting Chinese made iPhones in favour of Vietnamese Samsungs.

    In the long run it will help to reduce our reliance on just one country for most of our manufactured goods. That's highly beneficial to us.

    • testert on 08/12/2020 - 17:01

      The challenge here is: millions doing it, does not make it right choice. Forign affira are not thing about right, in most case, it is about national intreset and national security (such as we fxxk up papua new guinea with Indonesia … it is our back yard, so …).
      There are always big players, Australia just not one of them. Make right decision at right time, choose the right side, make most of it - is the game should be played.
      I understand it does not sound good: when it down to money, every nation look after themself. We have reliance, most of our reliance does not looking for buy more of our goods, they are looking for us to buy their goods.
      Currently, Morrison gov is trying to obey; however, with the nationalism they put on, they just have to make it not look like obey.

  • OzzyOzbourne on 08/12/2020 - 15:35
    +3

    Couldn't find a robot vacuum designed and manufactured in Australia… In fact I struggle to find anything produced in Australia except wine, beer and toilet roll….

    • Tiredman on 08/12/2020 - 19:55

      I guess there's soap bars and scented candles. Missus loves them.

  • shortgum on 09/12/2020 - 16:25
    +5

    Most countries now rely on china's economy to support it's own, even more so after covid than ever. maddog politicians - Pm and his US puppets just want to politicise everything. diminish our living standard and damage trade relation with china for zero benefits

    Finding new trade partner take years and unlikely to find one unique like chinese market. Australia is getting very very poorer for at least ~10-15yrs, also feeling betrayal from 5eyes when they are negotiating trade opportunities with china that missed from australia. the whole thing just look so dumb and dumber to federal political leaders.

  • [Deactivated] on 09/12/2020 - 23:43
    +3

    I think most people get this wrong, boycotting chinese products isn’t equal to boycotting made in china products. If you really want to boycott chinese products starts with their big brand like huawei, proven to have extensive link to ccp, next would be oppo, lenovo, ozb beloved xiaomi, chinese branded tv, aliexpress, banggood, etc.

    There’s no way you can boycott entirely made in china products, given that almost every company has their products or at least some components of their products made in china. Heck, even buying meats from woolies has chinese components in it, the meat packaging tray, the plastic film on top of the tray, even the label are all from china.

    So start with something big, hit their top brands, that would hit their ego and confident. If you have no choice, you have no choice. I bought xiaomi air purifier for a sole reason of cheaper filter replacement, but at the same time I refused to buy chinese smartphones, tv, and laptop.
    Use to buy chinese made soy sauce, black vinegar, cooking wine, sauce etc, but the past few years been slowly switching to Taiwan or HK products.

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