Will You Be Trying to Boycott Chinese Products?

maxyzee on 01/12/2020 - 20:00
Last edited 02/12/2020 - 09:00

Hey All

With the diplomatic row between Aus and China over the last few weeks culminating in the tweets from the Chinese embassy, there’s been an obvious rising of tensions between the countries.

Given how ridiculous and ironic china’s position is, to have the gall to call out Australia for human rights abuses do you feel more strongly about trying to avoid products manufactured in China?

The report itself was Australia holding itself to account, it could have easily been covered up never to see the light of day but Australia relative to the rest of the world is one with more integrity than that.

I don’t see how China could ever lecture a country like Australia when it comes to war crimes/human rights abuse given their long track record, most notably the persecution of the Uighur population as well numerous other violations ranging from censorship to imprisonment/torture of dissidents. I don’t see China holding itself to account for those crimes anytime soon.

I like the idea in theory of boycotting Chinese made products but the reality is unfortunately from my perspective is that the supply chain is far too integrated in China to be able to boycott anything. Hopefully western businesses are more incentivised now to move their supply chains away from China but that will a long and slow process over many years possibly decades.

So TLDR will you be trying to avoid Chinese made products or are we in a situation that these products are so pervasive with our current lifestyles there’s nothing we can really do at the moment.

Edit: Poll added. Good suggestion.

Poll Options

  • 839
    Yes I will and do avoid Chinese made products wherever I can
  • 34
    Yes but only if the equivalent product is the same price and quality
  • 333
    Would like to avoid but can’t because of limited choice/availability/price
  • 239
    Don’t care whatever’s cheapest
  • 133
    Don’t care at all and would still buy Chinese made even if there was a choice of equivalent produc
General Discussion

Comments

    • D3HUN on 05/12/2020 - 16:42

      Fact check:
      - Iron ore makes around ~20% of Australia's exports. (source: OECD https://oec.world/en/profile/country/aus )
      - China gets 80% or the iron ore exports. (source: OECD)
      - Out exports are making up only 21.8% of Australia's GDP (source: World bank https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/AUS#:~:text=GDP….)

      All in all:
      - Iron Ore exports to China makes less than 3.5% of Australia's GDP.

      On the other hand China imports more than 65% of their Iron ore from Australia.

      Hop this helps to clarify which country depends more on the other.

  • kds5pp on 03/12/2020 - 22:02
    +2

    Didn't Australia fire the first shots a while ago?

    So when we did that, we didn't expect China would fire back?

    • oO0Dam0Oo on 03/12/2020 - 22:07
      +8

      Fire first shots by calling for an inquiry into the origins and cause of a virus that caused a pandemic? How dare he!

      • aveeno bb on 03/12/2020 - 22:10
        +5

        PM should have left Trump to do the dirty job. Scomo didn't get anything out of calling it out.

        • ghostdom on 03/12/2020 - 22:13
          +1

          well PM would not have that power to let trump to do that dirty work, but could have been smart enough to avoid the first shot

          • aveeno bb on 03/12/2020 - 22:34
            +5

            @ghostdom: Sometimes people just want to do the right thing.

            • Halc on 03/12/2020 - 23:07
              +1

              @aveeno bb: Wait..surely you can't mean scomo from marketing? Hahaha the man is a great politician but stands for absolutely thing.

            • Dr Prepper on 04/12/2020 - 10:26
              +1

              @aveeno bb: some men just want to watch the world burn

              • [Deactivated] on 04/12/2020 - 10:34
                +1

                @Dr Prepper: Like the Yankees. If you don't listen, we just invade and bomb you out of oblivion. As always, Australia will be a lackey.

  • Kev828282 on 03/12/2020 - 23:23

    How about Scomo and LNP fix the problem they started? Why should I pay more for the same product? This is Ozbargain, you think we have money to spare?

    • Emerald Owl on 03/12/2020 - 23:26
      +2

      I take from that you’re not very smart

      • Kev828282 on 03/12/2020 - 23:46
        +2

        Lol, go get Pauline Hanson to print more money for you losers, that will solve everything in this country

    • zombrex on 04/12/2020 - 02:16
      +3

      You are either very naive or willfully ignorant if you think this is the fault of the LNP.
      We are being bullied by China for asking for an investigation into the origins of COVID.
      It has been supported across all sides of politics and world wide by many like minded and nations.
      Australia showed great leadership and integrity by standing up to China. All Aussies should be proud of this. Funny how everyone is standing with Dan but not standing against the criminal regime that caused this mess worldwide. Never forget they locked down Wuhan but intentionally let flights exit Wuhan to the world. They wanted the virus to spread so western nations would not get a geopolitical advantage from a virus weakened China.
      BTW CNN just revealed new leaked documents from Wuhan that reveal even more damning information.
      The election of Biden has also emboldened China to act even more harshly towards us.
      Canada faced similar actions after they arrested the huwei exec.
      This is 21st century gunboat diplomacy from the Chinese, trying to force us to curtail to their will.

      • Kev828282 on 04/12/2020 - 10:23
        +4

        Losers don't have to worry about the economy because they get free money from Centrelink, they have too much talking bullshit from CNN, sorry I think LNP should go, voting Labor next election.

      • Ygame on 04/12/2020 - 14:18
        +4

        You need to stop pulling out the victim card. When LNP blocked Huawei 5G, China didn't say we bullied them. Now when they block our wine why are we calling them bully. Looks like Australia is the one that throw away the relationship between 2 countries under Murdoch's influence.

        Trump wants Australia to ban Huawei, Australia did it. no more wine exporting.
        Trump wants Canada to arrest Huawei Exec, Canada lock her up for 2 years and Canada are facing similar actions.

        Can't you tell by now that problem is not from China. It is from USA.

        • zombrex on 04/12/2020 - 14:33
          +1

          Huawei were rightfully blocked because of national security issues. it has broad support across party lines despite partisan political games in the public.
          UK backtracked and also banned Huawei because allowing a foreign government access to your vital telecommunication infrastructure is totally reckless.
          This literally has nothing do with Murdoch of the LNP. You are the typical leftist that screams about Newscorp while supporting ABC propaganda that is taxpayer funded.
          Not one right leaning voice in their entire network of TV and radio shows of the ABC. Yet fox and news corp actually allow have diverse opinions.
          Yet somehow ABC is good and Newscorp is bad. Imagine lacking the most basic critical thinking skills to have that sort of worldview.

          • Ygame on 04/12/2020 - 15:05
            +4

            @zombrex: it's only rightfully blocked because Trump say so.

            The British government privately told the Chinese technology giant Huawei that it was being banned from Britain’s 5G telecoms network partly for “geopolitical” reasons following huge pressure from President Donald Trump.

            Huawei has been in Australia for many years, why they are not block for the same reason from beginning?

            You are blind if you think it has nothing to do with Murdoch. You are the typical rightist that screams about ABC has no right leaning voice while supporting Newscorp propaganda that is going to destroy Australia export and hurt every tax payer's pocket.

            • oO0Dam0Oo on 04/12/2020 - 15:21

              @Ygame: Who is to say based on recent events, that they would not use Huawei built 5G network as a political pawn during any perceived tensions. Do as we say or else! Kawtow to the CCP or face the consequences of your actions.

          • [Deactivated] on 04/12/2020 - 16:28
            -2

            @zombrex: Huawei were rightfully blocked because of national security issues.

            Evidence? None, even today. Huawei was blocked because the US and its lackeys are losing the 5G and standards war.

            Simple as that.

            • oO0Dam0Oo on 04/12/2020 - 17:28
              +1

              @[Deactivated]: The anecdotal evidence of recent events is enough. We do not want to be controlled by the CCP simple as that. Trust the CCP with critical Australian infrastructure, somehow not that simple.

              • [Deactivated] on 04/12/2020 - 17:38
                -1

                @oO0Dam0Oo: OK, this makes Australia a hypocrite. If you don't want your infrastructure to be controlled by CCP, tell the CCP so directly. Don't use bullsh8T national security as excuse.

                • oO0Dam0Oo on 04/12/2020 - 19:19

                  @[Deactivated]:

                  OK, this makes Australia a hypocrite. If you don't want your infrastructure to be controlled by CCP, tell the CCP so directly. Don't use bullsh8T national security as excuse.

                  If thats not a blatant contradiction then I don't know what is. We are a sovereign nation and wish not to be controlled by any other state. For those living here yet call for anti Australian sentiment are free to leave. In fact would encourage it.

  • Engel on 03/12/2020 - 23:24
    +3

    Signing up to RCEP without India was mistake. We should be trading with them ten times over. I know in the past I probably would have looked down upon an Indian product but in this day in age I would be quite hyped to buy Indian goods. Their government seems poised to expand their production in electrical machinery. So I hope Australia will diversify its imports.

    • CalmLemons on 04/12/2020 - 08:54
      +3

      The issue is the average citizen there won’t buy our products. We happily pass on beef, produce and lobster at much inflated prices to the Chinese who will or have the world highest number of middle class.

      Not many people in the world want to pay a premium for Garry taking a smoko twice a day.

      • Engel on 04/12/2020 - 13:10

        You have a good point, can't really sell them beef. Seems like the lefties are gonna try and keep real beef for the rich anyways and feed us 0 fat lab grown beef in a few years time. Although we'd probably continue selling beef kinda like how we sell uranium but don't use it ourselves and make believing how ethical we are.

        There's definitely room for trade diversification if not in beef. Maybe it starts off with just selling India more coal and they dish out some consumer electronics to us as their market grows. India wants to be a superpower, i say enable them. I think they are the perfect geographical buffer between us and China. It's true a lot of Australians are lazy and entitled. You'd have to bomb half the country to get people off their ass and back into manufacturing.

        I do not think China is as unstoppable as others are saying though. Their government has to sabotage the careers and livelihoods of its citizens when they don't fall in line because their social fabric is so prone to subversion. They have concrete ghost cities but they still need to maintain wage slavery in rural areas to attain it goals. And sure, maybe most of those people still love their government and one day when they're 70, bones aching with a good social credit rating they'll get a 'free' apartment in one of those ghost cities with a pretty picture of Xi Jinping in their living room.

        Anyways tough times are ahead. Chinese people seem to think Biden will keep America hands off on China and I'm inclined to believe it. My shares are tanking because of the deteriorating relationship with China, but to me it seems like a drop in the ocean to much larger issue.

  • koalabargains on 04/12/2020 - 00:10
    +11

    The point of China's actions are to teach Australia how the new world is going to work.

    From the comments on here, it's obvious a lot of people are as delusional as scomo.

    China is a superpower now. By some measures it is more important than America. China is only going to get richer and more powerful

    It is retarded to think that a country like Australia could lecture a super power. This would be like if Venezuela were to lecture America.

    Oh wait, Venezuela did actively lecture America. And then America destroyed their economy and now their people literally walk barefoot across their borders because they're starving.

    It's pretty (profanity) stupid to antagonize a superpower. I hope everyone here is ready for what 150billion dollar hole in the Commonwealth annual budget feels like. Get ready for serious cuts to services.

    • popsiee on 04/12/2020 - 08:58
      -3

      I hope everyone here is ready for what 150billion dollar hole in the Commonwealth annual budget feels like

      You have no clue of the token effect of the specific targeted industries maximising bang for dollar mainstream news effect but very little economic effect .
      Its just BS Chinese propaganda .

      Come back with some real figures instead of made up crap .

      • koalabargains on 04/12/2020 - 20:00
        +1

        See this is exactly what I'm talking about. Keep talking tough, because it's people like you that never have the actually bear the burden of these nutso policies.

        Right now you're saying oh its not 150b, and youll be saying that until it is 150b. For the last couple of years people have been saying hey China is getting mad, we should do something, and chicken hawks like Scomo and his braindead supporters just kept it up.

        There is NO EVIDENCE that the escalation is going to stop and the potential consequences are a 150b annual budget deficit.

        Its just BS Chinese propaganda .

        This is not propaganda. China is actually decoupling the economies. Not just talking about it to score points with the Murdoch crowd. That's what they're actively doing, right now. There are no alternative markets. This is REALITY. China has said exactly what they were going to do and then they started doing it.

        Look, there's no getting through to people like you, just keep talking big. People like you probably don't even pay much in taxes. It'll be others that have to deal with what happens when the Commonwealth doesnt have billions to spend on hospitals and schools and infrastructure.

        I mean, do you understand how much Chinese foreign fee paying students underpin the university system now? At some schools, Chinese money is a greater source of income than domestic funding. If the international students don't come back then we are heading towards 3 options:

        -American style massive HECS debt
        -shutting down and consolidating some universities
        -Cth and state govts prodividing 3x the support they currently do now

        Which one do you think is best?

    • vivekannd on 04/12/2020 - 16:07

      China is not and never will be a super power. The one child policy princelings are not suited for war fighting and have no experience fighting a real war. Indian army would be more worried about Pakistan than China.

      • CalmLemons on 04/12/2020 - 18:46
        +2

        Super power doesn't just mean military might, if that is your singular train of thought…

      • koalabargains on 04/12/2020 - 19:52
        +1

        As far as I know China has won every conflict it's ever had with India, going back to antiquity. The Sino-Indian war was a devastating loss for India. I mean, just this year Chinese special forces beat 20 Indian army personnel to death in hand to hand combat in the Himalayas because the outcome of that war in 62 banned firearms in that region.

        I don't know where you are getting this from but the Indian armed forces are a massive joke.

  • Dr Prepper on 04/12/2020 - 02:19
    +3

    Scomo should have thought twice about being a lapdog. Have you seen those "are you gonna eat that ?" memes?

  • Pumpkin_rrr on 04/12/2020 - 06:33
    +1

    This post is both entertaining and enlightening to read when I couldnt sleep. Trying to understand why the poll-results dont seem to reflect the comments here.
    Seems to be a lot of hatred towards Chinese products. I dont know how we can avoid Chinese products, which range from very cheap to very expensive.
    This includes all the 2-Dollar Shops, KMart, Target, BigW to Apple/iPhone.

    How did the products get here? This is my guess: our local companies (abovementioned) visited China, or talked to a China Rep, and placed their order according to their budget. So the China factory produce. To me it is a Demand-and-Supply scenario. But which one first - demand or supply?

    At the moment I think China hasnt owned that much of Australia yet, read this https://theconversation.com/worried-about-agents-of-foreign-influence-just-look-at-who-owns-australias-biggest-companies-123343

    But who knows what our future holds?

    It is a series of unfortunate event if you ask me :-(

    • [Deactivated] on 04/12/2020 - 07:17
      +1

      I'll just put this bluntly. Most people who voted to boycott Made in China are either delusional or hypocritical. As long as they are still here hunting for a bargain, boycotting is just a joke

  • beefmaster on 04/12/2020 - 07:27
    +4

    Seriously, the Chinese already beat everyone to the game when it comes to avoiding (boycotting) China made good, lol. They avoid buying Chinese made car, baby formula milk, etc. If they can afford foreign made goods then they will buy it, meaning only poor people buy China made goods.

    Although the Chinese is not boycotting for political reasons, the purchasing approach is similar

    • CalmLemons on 04/12/2020 - 08:52
      +3

      This. Lol.

      Very true, the Chinese already boycotted their own products decades ago.

      Here we are screaming and crying about boycotting it yet we buy it in droves like true spineless hypocrites.

      Lots of employee mindset here anyway pretty pointless.

      • striker5950 on 04/12/2020 - 09:13

        lmao yeh they buy all the baby formula here and homes too.

  • maxyzee on 04/12/2020 - 08:56
    +9

    Well this post has been somewhat enlightening on how pervasive Chinese influence is already here in Australia. China and its voluntary 50 cent army has shown this something we should all be concerned about. Given how China treats its own citizens that speak up against the CCP and try to interfere internationally with those countries that provide a safe haven https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/fbi-china-a… we need to good think about how we can curtail this

    First and foremost, we need much tighter rules on campaign donations from local through to the federal level as well as a rethink of our immigration laws when it comes to emigration from China. Both past and current ALP and LNP members are guilty of having some influence from the CCP and it’s something that we shouldn’t stand for.

    Our universities have been completely exposed and shown how greedy and totally dependent they have become to Chinse international students. We could look at a policy where we put a regulation in so that universities cannot exceed a ratio of international students coming from one single country. Something like the quotas that exist already like getting more women in a particular field for instance, this would operate in a similar way.

    I'm hopeful we are a turning point where the rest of the world is starting to take some proactive steps. In the US with both Trump and Biden we've seen some movement. Trump has just banned cotton imports from Xingjiang https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/12/3/us-bans-cotton-i… and Biden will have his Buy American campaign when he takes office.

    • striker5950 on 04/12/2020 - 09:11
      +6

      i love all the dislikes by the pro CCP butthurt Chinese community on Ozbargain. had to add some likes to your comment to even it out

      • popsiee on 04/12/2020 - 09:14
        +5

        ASIO already stated the infiltration of them on OZ social media sites . It be cool for them to not use Australian icons in the user names like roo , croc and Koala for example :) Some more thinking required .

    • CalmLemons on 04/12/2020 - 11:22
      +5

      I would think a lot of the people on this site are of Chinese descent.

      There was a great comment in one of the other threads:

      "So I guess it's freedom of speech, as long as your world views align with mine."

      Just because it's pro Chinese (not pro CCP) does not imply they're some government bot.

      People are free to express their views, or should we start locking up all the people who look Chinese just in case they are all agents?

      It's loverly to see, not you maxyzee, the number of people who cannot differentiate from the CCP and the Chinese people

      • Tiredman on 04/12/2020 - 11:35
        +2

        Yeah the founder and owner of Ozbargain is of a Chinese descent. The irony.

        • popsiee on 04/12/2020 - 11:40

          Nope , it to do with the CCP nothing to do with being Chinese descent .

          • Tiredman on 04/12/2020 - 11:43

            @popsiee: Nothing to do with CCP. Just pointed out he is of a Chinese descent.

            • popsiee on 04/12/2020 - 11:44

              @Tiredman: Didn't you notice the whole thread !

              • Tiredman on 04/12/2020 - 11:46

                @popsiee: Me pointing out he is of Chinese descent, what has got to do with anything?

                • popsiee on 04/12/2020 - 12:16
                  -1

                  @Tiredman: Did you not ask should OZB be boycotted because Scotty is of Chinese descent ? You changed your post my original answer is to that question !
                  Some people and for once the username suits lol

      • striker5950 on 04/12/2020 - 11:39
        +1

        there is a difference between being 'pro Chinese' vs 'pro CCP'. I think everyone clearly understands that. we don't have any problems with normal 'Australian Chinese' people who oppose the extreme hypocrisy of the CCP. its the ones that sympathise with the CCP or are trying to make excuses for them to justify the current CCP stand against Australia.

    • Halc on 04/12/2020 - 20:28
      +2

      ..because all contrary views are sponsored by subhuman communist shills. Remember this is how world war 2 started..but humanity as a whole have short memories

      • maxyzee on 05/12/2020 - 13:21

        So denying the existence of internment/forced labour camps and the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre ever happened are valid viewpoints open to opinion?

        For example is the denying of the earth is round a valid viewpoint that should be open to debate?

        My assumption here is that ozbargainers are Australian at least in some capacity therefore would have some knowledge of the fact there is such thing as free press and ability to dissent against the government be allowed to do it.

        You say we have short memories. Can I ask what you believe what started WW2? And which front? Europe or Pacific?

  • bajillionaire on 04/12/2020 - 09:41
    +3

    I'll be supporting small, local, Aussie businesses this Christmas. If that means buying a made-in-China product that they have in stock if there's no Australian-made alternative then so be it. But screw big companies for sure.

    • justwii on 04/12/2020 - 10:13
      +4

      Good point. May be Australian owned shops selling Chinese merchandise should put up a sign "Taiwan is a country" to show they are against CCP 😄

      • CalmLemons on 04/12/2020 - 13:55

        More like 'We support ozbargain. Shop here.'

    • Dr Prepper on 04/12/2020 - 10:29
      +4

      We're filling the kids stockings with iron ore this year

    • capslock on 04/12/2020 - 12:43
      +2

      But if those Chinese goods keeps getting sold then the Australian business will keep importing more of them from China. It defeats the purpose.

      Australian business should be encouraged to import product from anywhere else but China.

      • lplau on 05/12/2020 - 01:04

        It is all about margins and prices. There was a reason why so many companies moved their factories to China.
        I would be more than happy to buy Made in Europe or Made in USA or Made in Australia for the same price as Made in China but that is in an imaginary world.

  • bizarredeal on 04/12/2020 - 09:50
    +4

    Things need to change at a much higher level. We are simply doormats… no point in us avoiding. Still would go for the bargain.

    • pa33w0rd on 04/12/2020 - 10:41
      -1

      Don't underestimate the power of your vote, multiply that with the whole population, it's incredibly powerful. It is so powerful that politicians come and beg us to give them our vote :-)

      People in some countries don't possess this much of power. They're just told who will be governing them. But, I still appreciate the patriotism that they show towards their motherland, case-in-point the comments in this thread. I think they'd still do the same even if it were a democracy :-)

      • bizarredeal on 04/12/2020 - 12:32

        Since all the politicians are the same, the end result will be the same. Can't think of anyone really looking at the big picture in Australia .
        China looks at the big picture. The government builds infrastructure where the people don't have to create polls to know if they will support local and boycott Australian wine.

        Australia don't have a long term vision of being a leader. Instead it is focusing on selling the country to China and adani at the cost of cheap thrills and topping the pockets while in power.

        People who have the mindset of making a difference once they go up the ladder realise life is short and let's make a quick buck.

        Australia can be great but us doormats can barely make a difference. Let's vote yes! But making small petty changes won't make big differences.

        • lplau on 05/12/2020 - 01:09

          In China, They also build the infrastructure in places where it will give the residents tumors.
          In China, If they want to build a highway and you aren't willing to sell, they will build 2 lanes with your house sandwiched in the middle.

          There is always a balance between the iron fist and democracy, but never in the history of humankind has this ever been achieved.

  • pipe on 04/12/2020 - 10:09
    +7

    If you want to help the local economy, boycott the big corporates (mostly owned by US). Don't let the media brainwash you into thinking otherwise.

  • Orico on 04/12/2020 - 10:18
    -1

    Chinese and Asian Australians in general don't care. They'll always do whatever is cheapest.

    • TheMindsetTraveller on 04/12/2020 - 11:11
      +2

      Is there anything wrong with doing whatever is cheapest? If there is, why are you here on OzBargains?

      • Orico on 04/12/2020 - 11:36

        Is there anything wrong with doing whatever is cheapest?

        If all you think about is your bottom line, then good for you.

        If there is, why are you here on OzBargains?

        I didn't know ozbargain only had chinese bargains.
        That doesn't mean I'll pay for products from countries I am boycotting.

    • T-man on 04/12/2020 - 22:57
      -3

      Just Chinese, please don’t put other Asian Australians in, I care the good service, not the cheapest.

      • Barter101 on 04/12/2020 - 23:48
        -2

        while getting pummeled - "No please I'm not chinese, I'm a good house ch**k".

  • blehgg on 04/12/2020 - 10:39
    +3

    I must be a realist.. but I wonder what boycotting products based on a label is going to achieve?

    It's not like this is a tiny company which relies on community support.

    I doubt China will care - but if it makes you feel better - to each their own.

    I'm on here for a bargain and look out for #1 - my own wallet. Not for politics.

    • aveeno bb on 04/12/2020 - 10:58

      Sometimes is just sending a message and showing a sign of unity.

    • Orico on 04/12/2020 - 11:39

      I must be a realist.. but I wonder what boycotting products based on a label is going to achieve?

      Look what happened to Venezuela and Cuba. Imagine if the whole world did it to China

      • [Deactivated] on 04/12/2020 - 11:49

        Lol. Then keep imagining.

      • TightAl on 04/12/2020 - 18:34
        +3

        You mean how the Great USA basically sentenced two countries into poverty for the rest of eternity?
        Nice one.

        • Orico on 04/12/2020 - 18:55

          Murica!

  • sheepzpal on 04/12/2020 - 10:52

    It can only work in countries like South Korea where people can be like minded and agree on a topic. For example, they decided to trash out all of the Japanese branded items such as clothing and alcohol etc. Australia is too diverse.

    • Orico on 04/12/2020 - 11:38
      +3

      Australia is too diverse

      And Chinese. Not one of my Chinese-Aussie friends cares about what happens in China. They're all about that cash.

      • zombrex on 04/12/2020 - 12:44
        +4

        More than half of them are looking forward until the Chinese take over.
        We should of stuck with importing the Chinese from Taiwan, Hong Kong and refugees from the main land.
        Not those that are highly sympathetic to a criminal communist party or even the sons and daughters of high ranking officials. Australia is now littered with spies for the CCP, who spy, put pressure and report back on our local Chinese communities to the mainland. We are facing a full pronged assault from China with the goal of influencing out nation for their interests. Even our political system is under assault with a failed attempt revealed this year by ASIO to cultivate influence in parliament.

        • Munns on 04/12/2020 - 13:03
          +3

          Yep. The mainland Chinese have been trained and brainwashed by the CCP from a very young age. The great firewall blocks them from the outside world. They've been feed hyper nationalism until it's in their blood and veins. The CCP are the master's of deception.

          • gunso on 06/12/2020 - 12:50

            @Munns: Says CNN, BBC, Sky News

  • myusername on 04/12/2020 - 11:18
    +4

    hmm thought this was skynews by the comments here

    so many 'foreign relations' experts here lol

    • Orico on 04/12/2020 - 11:40
      +4

      so many 'foreign relations' experts here lol

      People on ozbargain are far more educated than idiots on sky news. Look at the diverse range of professions here. Doctors, Nurses, lawyers, public servants, engineers etc.

      • myusername on 04/12/2020 - 11:43
        +1

        this has crossed my mind honestly, there have been some very insightful AMA from skilled professions.

        there is a diverse range of professions here as members of the ozbargain forum i agree

        this thread however lacks diversity in comments

      • pipe on 04/12/2020 - 15:24
        +5

        "foreign relations" propaganda language is targeted to be consumed by the middle class so not surprised that the more educated people are the brainwashed ones.

  • Orico on 04/12/2020 - 11:40
    +1

    Isn't Apple a Chinese product? lol

    But we all know you people won't buy Taiwanese or Korean phones.

    • omgitzrick on 04/12/2020 - 11:45

      No, Apple is a company.

      • Orico on 04/12/2020 - 18:57

        It's a product of China.

    • myusername on 04/12/2020 - 11:45
      +1

      *stop it Patrick you're scaring him"

    • nephilim on 04/12/2020 - 12:36

      Apple phones are made by a Taiwan company based in China, a lot of Taiwans biggest companies are based in China.
      Taiwan is a small market.

      • lplau on 04/12/2020 - 22:32

        But ultimately still made in China. Which means you will be supporting chinese manufacturing.
        Also depending on who you ask…. about taiwan.

  • [Deactivated] on 04/12/2020 - 12:16
    +13

    I love Chinese people, the culture, food and i want to visit one day BUT (this isn't a racist but) i don't like bullies and i hate the CCP. It may be a futile effort to some people but if everyone changed their buying habits by at least 10% then that would send a message. Spend the extra on Australian furniture or buy Australian produce, If we collectively do this then this will put a dent in Chinas pocket and strengthen our economy in return.

    • Ygame on 04/12/2020 - 14:46
      +3

      Boycott made in China will only hurt Australia's pocket. China buys a lot of raw material from us to make product that they export to other countries. Some even export back to Australia. Image China buy Australia timber and use Australia gas to make furniture then send it back to Australia. By boycott that piece of furniture, you are hurting two Australian business.

      • Ziggy28 on 04/12/2020 - 17:39
        +4

        Precisely. All the politicians who inflame the situation will not suffer, it's the common people like you and me when financial implications hit. All this talk about boycotting chinese goods will just give the CCP more ammunition, imagine if the people in China start doing exactly the same?
        Yes the disgusting tweet was childish and uncalled for but surely the Australia govt must do better diplomatically. This will hurt us way more than it hurts China. They can source their goods and raw materials from elsewhere, but where else can we sell our wine and other stuff? To US? France? India? UK??
        And while this is happening, countries claiming to support Australia will see this as an opportunity for themselves and are already lining up to peddle their wine and other products to China. The financial implications from this could be devastating for us. Loss of jobs, opportunity, investment while cost of living goes up greatly. Other countries get to benefit from the fallout between Australia and China. I think they are secretly enjoying this.

        • tonyjzx on 04/12/2020 - 18:38
          -1

          This is easy to say.

          Australia companies do not make products Australians want to buy.

          We already buy most of our produce locally. You should not be buying an Chinese manufactured food anyway.

          Every tech item comes from CHina.

          • lplau on 04/12/2020 - 22:34

            @tonyjzx: Look at the bright side, China did help us clean up our own governments mess when they exported valuable PPE.
            Our own government decided to order over 50 years worth of PPE across all government then realized that PPE has a expiry date.

            Poor manufacturers in Australia getting their contracts cancelled, who helped them pick up the bill? Probably China, so they can still survive after having their contract cancelled by Aussie Govt.

  • Munns on 04/12/2020 - 12:46
    +2

    The CCP are now labelling many of their products PRC. PRC = People's Republic of China. That's sly. We must educate all of our contacts.

    • nephilim on 04/12/2020 - 12:51

      Thats how they do it internally, products made for China normally have city, region and CCP
      Google translate app your xiaomi products, will see what city they are made.

      My Xiaomi tap is from wuhan for example.

  • justgooddeals on 04/12/2020 - 12:51
    +12

    Can you imagine the indignation and fury from China. If the situation was reversed. And it was one of our foreign diplomats or spokespersons who twetted an image of soldier dressed in Chinese army uniform holding a Uyghur baby with knife to its throat.

    After illegally placing tariffs on our wine barley other imports. Can only imagine how they would react if the situation was reversed. Not a good situation all round.

    • AustriaBargain on 04/12/2020 - 13:04
      +1

      We should be flattered that China knows we hold ourselves to a higher standard than them. And they are shoving it in our faces and it serves us right, that video was a shocker.

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