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APC BR650MI Back UPS Pro 650VA $219 Delivered @ Umart

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I'v been looking for a UPS recently and noticed that UMart has this unit with free shipping and is the cheapest going based on Static ICE and some searching online. The good value is the free delivery (considering its a 7.5KG item)

If your interested in if this would work for you they have an online calculator for uptime and usability, great for small nas units and micro PC's as its only 650VA (Run Time Calculator - https://www.apc.com/shop/au/en/products/Back-UPS-Pro-BR-650V… )

They have larger units but only this has free shipping the rest are just discounted

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  • If I hooked up a google wifi and my nbn modem, would that keep my internet up in a blackout?? How would you/could you connect those plugs to this UPS?

    • What type of NBN connection? Some don’t work without power to street (ie HFC).

      • Yea HFC… that’s a shame :( because I rely on wifi for mobile to work in the house and we keep having blackouts lately

        • As far as I can tell, it really depends on the extent of the blackout. I have HFC too, and my modem and router are hooked up to my UPS. I have experienced two blackouts where the Internet was still OK, and others where it was totally down. I don't really know why. I can only assume that on the occasions when it still worked the blackout was limited the phase my house is on?

      • https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/what-happens-in-a-power-black…

        nbn™ Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC, also referred to as 'cable')

        Landline phone and internet services won’t work in the event of a power outage within the nbn™ HFC network or within your premises. Unfortunately, restoring power with an alternative power option is not possible if the nbn™ HFC network is also experiencing a power loss. Consider keeping a charged mobile phone nearby in the instance of a power outage.

        I thought it was just an unpowered coaxial feed-in line, and that the HFC itself was powered from a central point along the network? Are you saying running the modern/router via an UPS is not enough to use HFC during an outage? Is it powered along the route via the power-lines at regular intervals or something?

        EDIT:
        I had a google, it looks like line RF amplifiers are the likely cause of HFC loss during a blackout.

        • Consider keeping a charged mobile phone nearby in the instance of a power outage.

          Too bad if you're with Telstra and live less than 10km from the Sydney CBD in one of Telstra's many black spots, so rely on wifi calling for your mobile to work when at home.

        • +1

          That’s right HFC hubs (optic to coax) and amps are powered by street power. You can be straight off the hub or there can be one or more amps in line before you. If your phase is affected (and you have backup) you might still be OK if hub and any amps are on unaffected phases. In any case if you have a service with mobile backup then UPS still a good idea, and at least will keep your internet/voice up.

          • @beanlanda: It makes sense too, HFC was originally designed to carry TV signals so I'd imagine the idea of always on battery backed up hubs and amps wasn't required, as when the TVs are off due to a blackout who needs HFC to work.

    • +2

      30cm UPS Power Cord Extension Lead Cable IEC C14 Male to 3-Pin AU Female Socket
      https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30cm-UPS-Power-Cord-Extension-Le…

    • If your modem/router has 4G (and there's a sim in it), yes and as long as the generators on the towers are still running you should be able to access the internet. Don't believe the Google Wifi Router has a sim slot though.
      Your fixed line, no.


      However, if you have FTTP (and the connection box has a battery backup) you can:

      From the NBN Co's website:

      nbn™ Fibre to the Premises (FTTP)
      In the instance of nbn™ Fibre to the Premises, nbn supplies and installs a connection box within your home or business. This box needs to be connected to the power in order to work.

      Your phone or internet provider may supply a battery back-up as part of your Power Supply unit, however you will need to speak to them if you would like to order one.

      When it comes to your telephone, this service will need to be used with a device that doesn’t require mains electricity in order to operate. Unless you have battery back-up and a corded telephone correctly connected, your phone will not work during a blackout.

      During a blackout your battery back-up may last for approximately five hours. This includes the battery emergency reserve, which offers roughly three hours of power and another one and a half hours once the ‘Battery Emergency’ button has been pressed.


      You did mention that you are on HFC, you could always just grab a portable modem if you need access to the internet without hotspotting your phone. Just buy a long expiry sim (maybe a Boost sim?) and keep it in there.


      Edit:
      Could always go:
      HFC -> NBN Modem -> 4G Router -> [via Ethernet] Google Router

      Only downside is that you need to power two devices instead of one just to access the internet when running off of the UPS when you have no power.

      • What about if electricity in the neighbour hood is fine, but the breaker trips for your house?

        Would this still help keep the wifi/router/modem running?

        • +2

          Put the breaker to the on position?

          • @Pootie Tang: And what if a thief flips it to turn off the wireless camera/alarm system?

            • @pizzaofpeace: The UPS will keep things running long enough for a NAS to shut down safely but don't expect hours of backup if you're running cameras or alarm. Even less if you need to keep a HD spinning to store footage.

              • @CacheHunter: Ah ok, fair enough. I just want it running long enough to get footage when thieves think they've turned the cameras off.

            • @pizzaofpeace: Then the UPS will beep and thief will be scared.

  • waiting deal on CyberPower BR700ELCD myself

    • +1

      Bought Value1200ELCD for $68 on clearance in Officeworks. Was originally after sine wave one but couldn't resist the price

  • APC BX950 are about $180 shipped on eBay. Regular price. Can be had for much less. Got one for $111 last year from some deal here.

    • +1

      More watts but shorter runtimes.

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