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Eneloop Smart & Quick Charger 4x AA Batteries $29.50, 4x AA Eneloop Pro $17.50 + Delivery or Free C&C @ Bing Lee
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Jase2801 on 25/12/2020 - 19:21 binglee.com.au (3012 clicks)
Last edited 25/12/2020 - 23:10 by 1 other user
Last edited 25/12/2020 - 23:10 by 1 other user
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are they any good? i could never justify the price of eneloops
.the batteries were a killer deal at $7-8. But now they are $15. Still a good price but no longer a "killer" deal.
I should have bought more, but at the time I didn't think I needed more. I was wrong. Very wrong.
If by Ladda you mean any good? It’s highly likely they’re just repackaged eneloop pro’s I believe. So your money, your call..
No idea
Every time someone posts an Eneloop deal, someone jumps in with Ladda !
No one knows, do they last 10 years like these, I doubt it. Buy the real thing.
have your eneloops lasted you 10 years yet?
When you buy eneloops, you're likely to get made in China batteries. There's a small chance you get made in Japan depending on where it was sourced. The ones designated for the AU market are the made in China ones. The LADDA are all made in Japan. That in itself some one consider an edge over the "real" ones.
@lostn: There's a listing on ebay that suggests
Since JULY 2019 - Panasonic Australia AAA,s are now Made in Japan - previously China since 2014
In any case, regarding 10 years, I'm almost there… I can find email orders tracing back to (the Real) Dick Smith eneloops early 2013 and yes still going strong ~ Made in Japan ofc.
Link
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Panasonic-Eneloop-AAA-NiMH-Recha…
Someone traced them back to coming from the same factory as eneloops. So virtually the same thing.
Can't you take the stairs?
Dude….that was offensively bad.
Thanks I got AAA pack for 17.50 pick up. Pity Bing Lee ebay store has no 50% discount on these.
What's the Ozbargainers choice for battery charger? Don't need anything fancy.
I recently bought the Nitecore D4 Smart Battery Charger and happy with that.
i think it was La Crosse Technology. And Aliexpress was the place that had it cheapest.
I researched a couple months ago and consensus was Liitokala 402.
I bought through AliExpress before black friday and it took ages to arrive. Got it like 2 weeks ago.
I use the IKEA battery charger which has 4 slots. It’s been good, no issues.
I wonder if there significant benefits to using a ‘proper’ smart charger like the ones mentioned.
they turn off when charged and can also discharge a low battery.
Decent charges like the ones listed above come with features. The ability to charge one or three batteries at a time is needed for me as I have many devices which require three AAs.
I bought the Nitecore D4 from eBay a few months ago (code checked out so it's not counterfeit). It's pretty sweet, but slow when charging more than two batteries.
IKEA battery charger which has 4 slots.
The old Ikea charger with 4 slots, also called LADDA, was good. However it has recently been replaced with a newer model that takes 10 hours to charge the batteries. The new one claims to be a smart charger, but it's not.
None of my presents require AA's this year.
how about the wife's?
mic drop
Initially thought this was a bra size insult.
They also have the AAA’s for half price at checkout.
https://www.binglee.com.au/panasonic-bk-4hcce4bt-aaa-eneloop…
why there is no Bing lee in VIC? 🙃
Mr Lee thinks we're not worth anything.
All the OW staff I ask to price match BL have never even heard of Bing Lee and have to check if it's some grey importer before they'll consider a PM.
can these safely charge 1.5V batteries?
My Reverb G2 decided to use 1.5V batteries instead of 1.2V, which makes batteries harder to come by since Eneloops, Laddas, Amazonbasics and Coles all use 1.2V. Now I have to look for some chinese brands I've never heard of because no one else makes rechargeable 1.5Vs. But then I might need a new charger unless these can handle them.
I don't think rechargeable 1.5v AA and AAA exist. When fully charged a 1.2v AA and AAA battery will be at 1.5v (plus or minus 0.01v or 0.02v).
Some devices won't work with rechargeable batteries. I have a digital camera that quickly shows low power when using rechargeable batteries.
They definitely exist.
Just not from brands you have heard of.
They come in 3 types: Ni-MH, Ni-Cad and Ni-Zn.
1.2V batteries work for a while but drop off their charge very quickly.
Some of the ones in your link, the picture of the batteries says 1.2V. A lot of amazon sellers have no idea what they are selling, and quite a few lie.
The only rechargeable AA-size batteries that are "1.5V" are NiZn. They work, but not easy to obtain the batteries or charger - you could get sold a charger that runs from 110V. NiZn batteries are actually 1.65V, but so are Energizer (non-rechargeable) lithium AA batteries. NiZn batteries can be as high as 1.85V straight out of the charger, so it's possible your equipment could be damaged by the higher voltage.
I see there are some claiming to be 1.5V Li-Ion, apparently with a circuit to reduce the 3.6V normal voltage of Li-Ion batteries to 1.5V. While that will work, the circuit will always be drawing power, so I'd expect the batteries to go flat within weeks. Check before you buy. Depending on how they reduce the voltage, the batteries could become quite hot during use.
@Russ: you can get li-on batteries with built in USB charging header.
They definitely exist:
Li-on: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001516499591.html?spm=a2…
Ni-MH: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001315011498.html?spm=a2…
But the only brands I know of are Chinese brands you haven't heard of. Some have no brand at all.
@lostn: The lithium-ions I believe exist. The AliExpress page is full of bad photoshopping, so I'm not sure those particular ones are what they say. But I did find this tear-down of a real 1.5V Li-ion AA battery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L62tCyOP06w
However, the batteries in the video are deceiving. The rated capacity shown (in mWh) on the outside of the battery is the same as the mWh rating of the internal li-ion battery, that's not possible because there is no such thing as a 100%-efficient step-down power supply circuit. This is shown in the above video at 4:55, they measured 1650mAh, so mWh = 1.5x1650 = 2475mWh, only 90% of the 2775mWh written on the battery. So the step-down power supply is about 90% efficient.
A switch-mode power supply does have a continuous power draw just to keep it running, and it will always be running, so the step-down circuit will be slowly flattening the batteries. With no usage, I'd expect the batteries to go flat within a month or two, even when not used. This may not be a problem, depending on how you use them.
The second batteries you listed are actually "Rechargeable Alkaline Manganese" batteries. These are well-known to have a poor number of charge cycles (about ten) and the capacity reduces dramatically with every charge. Read:
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/archive/will_the_reusabl…
and
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/18703
This battery charger and batteries may do the job you want, but you'll need a mains adapter plug to use the charger:
https://www.amazon.com/2500mAh-Rechargeable-Batteries-Batter…These are not NiMh batteries, they are NiZn batteries, a different chemistry. NiZn batteries are actually 1.65V, but so are Energizer (non-rechargeable) lithium AA batteries. NiZn batteries can be as high as 1.85V straight out of the charger, so it's possible your equipment could be damaged by the higher voltage.
If you already have NiMh batteries and a charger, you'll have to be careful which batteries you put in which charger. NiZn and NiMh are not compatible.
Thanks OP. Bought a few packs to replace all my batteries in remotes
I'm new to eneloops, anything I should know about before buying the 4 pack + charger?
Would be used mainly for children's toys, I'm sick of throwing away way too many old batteries
Do not buy them. Go to ikea buy Ladda batteries and use a Nitecore D4 charger.
What’s so good about the Nitecore D4 charger? I’m currently using the IKEA charger.
Which Ikea charger though? Ikea used to sell a good 4-slot charger, also called LADDA, but now all their chargers take 10 + hours to charge, and are actually dumb chargers- even the one that claims to be a smart charger.
Why is that? The price of Ladda + Nitecore doesn’t seem to be cheaper.
All you need to know about Eneloop, is that it’s the official currency of Ozbargain
Also just bought it, hope its good!
My Duracell charger charges the AAA batteries in a few hours, sometimes 1 hour. Thought these take at least 6 hours.
My Duracell dumb changer is also very fast (but can only handle two and four batteries at a time). This may reduce the battery lifespan due to overheating. It's not a huge problem if you don't mind buying new rechargeables more often.
If you are buying sexy LADDAs or Eneloops consider buying a smart charger. Ideally one that can slow charge AAAs as these can overheat more than AAs.
$21 on Amazon for 4 X eneloop pros (boxing day sales), so worse.. but free shipping for prime members.
Guys, these are made in Japan. I certainly don't want to paying the premium price for eneloops if they were made in China. I'll bring back a post I read before which I found helpful :
xiangtan on 26/09/2020 - 15:06
In Japan the numbers 1 - 4 are used to identify the size of the battery and different alphabets for different markets.
1 = size D
2 = size C
3 = size AA
4 = size AAABK-4MCCE = (made in Japan) AAAs for European and Russian markets
BK-3MCCA = (made in Japan) AAs for North America and China
BK-3MCCE* (produced in China) AAs for South American market, Southeast Asian market, Australian market/New Zealand market.
how did Bing get them if the Japan ones are for other markets? Is it very old stock?
A lot of retailers, when they have "once-off" sales, sometimes it's "distressed stock" - i.e. stock from a store that went bankrupt. So the items are still perfectly good, but the stock liquidator is not under the same contractual conditions as the bankrupt store was, and can sell to markets that the bankrupt store was not permitted to sell to.
Hmm, good price, but estimated 4 months delivery time…
Didn’t see this initially sky sky. Thanks for calling it out.
Need these now, not in 2-4 mo
? mine says next week, early jan…
my order confirmation email says:
Delivery - Ships within 123-130 Days.
in time for next christmas?
NICE.
Is this an online sale only? or can I go and drop by to my nearest Bing Lee store and purchase it from there?
Now that Aldi aren't selling rechargeable batteries, is there another inexpensive option rather than Ladda?
It that official? My Aldi has them, but not always at every checkout.
I went shopping at my local Aldi today, and couldn't see the rechargeable batteries, so I asked. The Aldi staff member said they have been very popular recently, and have temporarily sold out, but will be back in stock after a week or two.
I couldn't find any today too, and asked the cashier. They say they don't sell it anymore. Will be interested to hear from others.
Will this charge energizer rechargeable batteries?
Yes. The brand of the battery doesn't matter, only its capacity, and that it is a NiMH battery. The datasheet for this charger says it can charge AA batteries with capacities from 950 to 2550mAh, and AAA batteries from 550-950mAh.
The "Owner's Manual" (datasheet) can be downloaded from the bottom of this webpage:
https://www.panasonic.com/nz/consumer/batteries-and-energy-s…All energizer AAA and AA rechargeable batteries fall within the listed capacities. Battery datasheets from here, under the "Looking for product specs?" heading, select "Battery Size" from the pull-down menu, and select NiMH from the "Chemistry" pull-down menu: https://data.energizer.com/asiapacific#search
Energizer have a useful FAQ for rechargeable NiMH batteries, it's good, although it (of course) recommends their own chargers:
http://data.energizer.com/pdfs/rechargeable_faq.pdf
Silly question, does the charger charge both the eneloops pros along with the standard ones?
Not a silly question. Charging batteries can be a complex issue.
The answer is yes, with conditions. The higher capacity of eneloop pro batteries means that they will take longer to charge. This charger would be fine charging one or two eneloop pro batteries at the same time, and it will charge them in two hours or less. But if you put three or four eneloop pro batteries in this charger, it reduces the charging current, and will take up to four hours to charge them.
This battery charger uses -dV/dT detection as the "smart" charging bit, to prevent over-charging the batteries. -dV/-dT detection works well if the charging takes up to three hours, but at four hours it's getting unreliable, so the charger may not reliably detect full charge, and over-charge the batteries (which damages them).
So when charging four non-pro eneloops, you can charge up to four batteries at a time, and it's a good charger. But when charging eneloop pro batteries, I recommend you charge only one or two at a time, and leave the other two slots empty. That way the full-charge detection will always work reliably, and it'll be a good charger with eneloop pro batteries.
If you want to charge three or four eneloop pro batteries at the same time, I recommend you choose a different charger, that can charge the eneloop pros within three hours.
The charger's "Owner's Manual" (datasheet) can be downloaded from the bottom of this webpage:
https://www.panasonic.com/nz/consumer/batteries-and-energy-s…Thanks Russ, thanks for taking the time to explain that in detail
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