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$228 (Was $279) G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL18 Desktop RAM
$265 (Was $299) G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL16 Desktop RAM
G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL18 $228 or CL16 $265 Desktop RAM Delivered/Pickup @ Centre Com
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Is cl18 or cl16 better? What's the difference?. Would this be a good buy to install on a b550 mobo?
CL16 is better - the CL number refers to the RAM's CAS latency, so you want lower latency as much as possible. I'm using 16GB of this exact memory at CL16 on my B550-based Ryzen 5000 system and it works a charm.
Cheers!
Should I get this (cheaper) for my generic b550 mobo, and ryzen5 3600?https://www.centrecom.com.au/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32gb-2x1ā¦.
It lets you O.C, maybe can bring the CL down by two notches?
You could try tightening the ram timings but i found it very difficult on zen cpus. Also you run into issues of potential instability etc.
It's also fairly marginal gains in most use cases, especially with a 3600 so not really worth the effort.
Choose the ram kit that's on your motherboard's QVL.
@mrtee: Check the "Support" page on your motherboard, then find the CPU you have and a list pops up - you can also check on the ram manufacturer website, I believe. Similar spot to where you get updated BIOS and drivers.
@wwwsam: I've found my Ryzen 5 3600 and b450 combo quite straightforward to OC/tighten/play with (granted, I'm still learning and it's probably not as tight as it could be - I jumped from an old 3770 to this and they are vastly different).
I only have this RAM kit but it does the job for me. It can do cl14 3600 without much hassle and I've currently got it at cl 15/16 3800 1:1 with IF.
@NingNangNong: @NingNangNong that's great that you were able to tighten your timings.
Seems like a lot of people upgrading came from the Intel 2000/3000 series (I came from 2600k)! Ram tightening and cpu OCing was a lot much simpler back then.
Main reason why i'm having problems is likely because i'm running 4 dimms. I had long term stability problems with cas at 14, but the other timings i had a bit more leniency. At 2 dimms it worked a bit better but it's all dependent on luck of the draw.
I've heard having certain memory chips/bins on your ram module increases your chances of success greatly. The chips on the gskill gtznc (hynix cjr from memory) kit isn't known to go much further then stock.
Because i needed the long term stability, i just tend to load xmp and leave everything else stock now letting pb do its thing.
@wwwsam: I've noticed a similar thing with people upgrading from around that gen. I'm kind of thankful Intel stayed fairly stagnant in terms of cores/threads 'cause the 4/8 was still killing it until very recently. I never touched my ram using the 3770 (or my 3570k before that) until Ryzen - the good ole 2133 cl11 xmp gskill ripjaws was enough for me. Speaking of which, I should try and sell that cheaply to someone [I hate holding onto things I don't need].
Yeah, I've heard having 4 dimms can make it much tougher to tighten or even get to XMP levels - memory controller, lanes, topology, blah blah, words. I think the new Ryzen cpus should be tackling that problem well, but I haven't looked into it much since I didn't get one myself.
Having e-die I think has been the saving grace/the reason why I've found it so "easy". Ryzen calculator seems to spit out something in between e and b die for me (like, if I calculate "safe" for b-die, there's only 4 numbers that are out by more than 1). I think with with yours and mine, tRC and tRFC are fairly loose (esp. compared to b die) and keeping tRFC around 300ns [540 for 3600mhz) was actually pretty helpful (It's 560 on 3800mhz for me at the moment, so 295ns).
The one part I'm still a bit confused about in the dram calc is the "Memory Rank" part - I've only put 1, not 2, in there and just gone with that (wasn't sure if it mean dual rank or it was something to do with chips on both sides of the ram module). Seems that it changes RTT stuff quite a bit, but haven't investigated because I got lazy…
edit: AIDA seems to spit out 66.2ns for latency almost every single time (sometime 0.1-2 difference) for what it's worth
CL16, should sell out, usually always does at the 260 mark.
64GB RGB kits plssssss
fair deal for cl16 rgb.
Crucial Ballistix Gaming Memory, 2x8GB (16GB Kit) DDR4 3600MT/s CL16 [Red variant.. because it goes faster] - $126.16 @ Amazon AU
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B083TSFB5C/ref=ppx_yo_dā¦
Yes, it's not G.Skill but price to performance it's a sweet deal.
RGB RAM is faster than red RAM šš¤£
You can get the CL16 with 16-16-16-36 timings (samsung b die) for about $10 more.
Checkout megabuy
Help the lazy ppl out and share a link champ :P
Was just about to edit the post. It's only 2 x 8GB modules. Doubt most will need 32GB for standard gaming use.
https://www.megabuy.com.au/gskill-tz-neo-16g-kit-2x8g-ddr4-3ā¦
Epic kit.
except thats 2x8gb not 2x16gb
wishes it was true
Do most people really need to spend that much on 16GB? Is Samsung b-die a must even if it is 2X the price?
@netsurfer: Over clock to CL12 get ram which performs 3 times the price.
16GB of good ram eats 32GB of mediocre ram.
Your rig won't even utilise the 2nd 16GB module..
Depends on what your doing.
16GB of good ram eats 32GB of mediocre ram.
Maybe…. by a handfull of points… in a benchmark.
Meanwhile back in the real world people are better off getting twice as much ram for the same price, losing 1fps in a game initially, but then not running out of ram when using a modern gaming PC and not a benchmark focused PC
What good is 16 GB going to do me when I'm using 20+ gig on a regular basis?
Star citizen
MS Flight Simulator
X-Plane
DCS World
etc…. doesn't care about the fact you spent crazy money for ever so slightly tighter timings."I wish I'd got the 16GB kit with the tighter timings instead of this 32GB kit"
-no one everSpecial performance ram is never a good investment for real world applications.
Just getting a nice kit if high speed stuff is fine.
What would happen if you pair 2x16GB 3600Mhz CL16 with 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14?
they might run, but not plug and play
i think they run at lowest common denominator, but I have never tried it, nor would I.
Depends on the SPD tables / BIOS.
You'd get at least 3200MHz CL16 (as lostn said, lowest common denominator).
The CL16 3600 might have CL14 or 15 timings in it's table for the reduced 3200MHz speed.
Unless you have a real need for 64GB sit with 32, don't buy what you don't need.
But expensive no?