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Ocean Chef Salmon Portions Skin-on 1kg Bag Frozen $18 (Was $28) @ Woolworths

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Previous deal had these for $20.

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FYI, do review comments from the previous deal in February. Especially this one.

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  • Wild or farmed salmon?

    • +5

      The price says it all.

    • +1

      The extremely deep, cold waters of the Norwegian fjords provide naturally favourable conditions for Atlantic Salmon, so it's from these sea farms we source these rich, moist fillets.

      • +11

        Hard pass then

      • +4

        Urgh I'm surprised a country like Norway would produce toxic sea farmed salmon. Thought the euros were always clean and green.

        • Some are, many aren’t.

        • +2

          The entire concept of fish farming or intensive aquaculture for Salmon production started in Scandinavia in the 1970s.

        • +5

          What is the difference between a Salmon in a pen and a Salmon out of a pen? Do you also demand only wild caught cows and chickens?

          • +9

            @1st-Amendment: Because the "farmed" fish are actually just swimming around in tiny spaces, stressing out and hanging out in their own waste, the idea isn't great and provides a worse product.

            Wild caught chickens wouldn't be as good as they would be a lot tougher, though there's certainly a difference between cage chickens and free range (even though the idea of free-range has been diluted) as there is with your cheap cuts of poorly treated industrial scale cow farming vs the fancy Wagyu, grass-fed, blowjob-receiving cows of legend.

            Many animals taste better based on the conditions they live in, I don't see how this is controversial?

            • -7

              @Droz:

              Many animals taste better based on the conditions they live in

              Except Chickens and Cows apparently. But Fish are different because…

              • +3

                @1st-Amendment:

                though there's certainly a difference between cage chickens and free range

                Um, just read the comments first. Dunno.

                Sometimes people are difficult because they want to be. Looks like you might be in that category.

                • -3

                  @Droz:

                  Sometimes people are difficult because they want to be. Looks like you might be in that category.

                  Either that or you didn't understand the question…

          • +4

            @1st-Amendment:

            Do you also demand only wild caught cows and chickens?

            Wild cows do not exist, it is a domesticated animal. The ones we eat at least.

            Chickens, free range ones, are available, cost more and might taste better.

            Now, salmon from a farm is highly inferior, tastes worst and may have contaminants.

            Think of chickens in factory farms.
            Now think of chickens freely wondering around 2 hectares of grass and land.

            Same with salmon.

            Same with prawns.

            Same with people, country folks vs city rat-race dwellers … but we don't eat them, of course …

    • +4

      Wild or farmed salmon?

      All Atlantic salmon now is farmed. Wild salmon such as you get in tins is a different genus.

    • +2

      My understanding is that the only generally available wild caught salmon is from Alaska. Everywhere else is pretty much farmed.

  • How does this compare with Salmon from the deli, does anyone know?

    • +10

      I would not buy any salmon from Norway. Salmon in Deli department of wws are usually product of Australia.

      • What is wrong with Norway salmon?

        • +2

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYYf8cLUV5E that djbst also posted.
          could be sensationalised, and could be source from farms that don't do what the videos posted but I would personally steer clear

          • @alebox: Guess thats a skip for me then, I guess I'll keep it in mind for the future too. Thanks.

            I just remember reading a while back that farmed has less mercury than wild, but I guess the mercury is lower risk than all the other garbage.

          • +2

            @alebox: Pretty sure this happens everywhere, not just norway salmon.

            If I was a CEO of a salmon farming business in Australia, my shareholders would be expecting me to maximize returns for them.

            This means I would be using any known and legal methods to achieve this, including using the methods in these videos, if they were legal.

            I'm not sure what the big deal is…

            There's an equivalent video for every animal that we eat… pigs, cows, chickens etc.

            There's not enough animals in the world if we only let them NATURALLY live their full lifespan. Most food are domesticated and/or farmed for the growing demand of our consumption

            Chickens that we eat don't live past a few months because they've reached their optimum weight already and there's no point feeding them for lower than optimum weight gains.

            If you skip this deal because a video or some comment that scared you away, then you need to rethink your consumption of meat altogether.

            If anyone doesn't like how the world has become, the best choice is to become a vegetarian to stop the demand for farmed goods, then businesses will producing products for us.

        • +3

          farmed salmon, antibiotic fed, mass produced, ruins the river ecosystem too.

          • +2

            @CalmLemons: Also overpopulated fishes get deprived of oxygen and become sick and diseased. They then treat the fishes with antibiotics and chemicals (eg. pesticides etc). Those fishes that look too sickly get turned into fish food/pellets. The chemicals get stored in the fatty tissue of the fish, ready for human consumption. You then eat it over decades and possibly get cancer! You now know the truth. Would you still buy farmed salmon?

            • +1

              @MuddyClear: Can you please point me to a specific article please.

            • @MuddyClear: OMG chemicals! Like Dihydrogen Monoxide, who would force their kids to drink that…

              • @1st-Amendment: Are you an anti chemical discrimiation advocate or something? haha
                Is water equivelent in it's toxitcity to humans as say cyanide? mercury? lead? etc.

          • @CalmLemons: You need to visit a chicken, pig and cattle farm… I'm pretty sure they use antibiotics, are massed produced and ruin the ecosystem they are being farmed on.

            Suggest you become a vegetarian and give the salmon a break and stop discriminating against salmon.

    • does not taste good as fresh fillets.

  • +13

    Farmed Norwegian Salmon World’s Most Toxic Food
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYYf8cLUV5E

    • +14

      A very sad quote from the video "I'm from Hardanger in Norway. The river in my hometown used to be one of the best salmon rivers in the country and it has been completely destroyed by fish farms. The vast majority of salmon are now escaped farm fish full of parasites. A few years ago me and my father spotted a fish in the river that was almost completely white from fish lice and totally blind, he walked into the river with a spear and stabbed it, it was too frail to resist and didn't even seem aware that anyone was near. For years we have petitioned and protested to no avail, the farm companies act like they own the fjords. Please don't buy farmed salmon, when you do you're helping to destroy a fjord that is a UNESCO world heritage site."

    • Thanks for this. Wasnt aware

    • So should we avoid eating salmon then? The benefits of eating the fish are outweighed by the negatives?

      • No. You should avoid believing all the hysteria that pervades the media these days.
        There's something like 2 million tonnes of farmed salmon produced every year for the last few decades If there was a problem with it, it would be quite obvious.
        Put this alongside 'flouride in the water', for things that crazy people believe…

  • +1

    These used to be 50% off once every so often but I don't think they have been 50% off for years.

  • "product of norway, packed in poland" yeah nah

    • Europe has stricter food laws than Australia btw, just saying.

      • +4

        examples ??

        • +1

          Chlorine-washed chicken. It's outlawed in the EU.

      • So these salmon are vodka flavoured?

  • +1

    I got excited when I saw the price until I read the comments. What a disappointment! Will stick to Aldi's frozen one that's always $25 (I hope it ain't farmed as I can't remember it mentioning that anywhere on the packaging).

    • +4

      If it is a product of Australia then it is farmed

      • I think it said "Atlantic Salmon" on the package. Will check it very closely next time.

        • That means it's farmed.

        • It's Aldi. You think they're not cutting corners?

    • +2

      (I hope it ain't farmed as I can't remember it mentioning that anywhere on the packaging).

      It's all farmed. If there's no mention of how it's sourced, assumed it is farmed.

      Wild-caught fish can be bought in bulk online or from some specialty fish marketplaces/meat importers but you're local Colesworths or Aldi is not going to stock anything wild caught and hasn't done so for a very long time.

      • A very good point. Do you know any online wild-caught salmon sellers? I have checked it once a while ago and it's super expensive.

        • +1

          From online suppliers, it averages around $40-50 per kilo. You get what you pay for. Fish & Co is probably a bit cheaper than most others.

          After much searching I've found local butchers/fish markets here in Perth that have wild caught Salmon for around $30 per kilo, along with wild caught Barramundi, Pink Ling and Snapper.

          • @Gnostikos: That Fish & Co company will only do a bulk purchase of 10kgs with free delivery interstate. Will check local butchers here. Ta

    • Where's Aldi's frozen salmon from?

      • Product of Norway.

    • they are all farmed, only Salmon in cans isnt

  • +8

    Norwegian salmon is like on par with Tasmanian salmon. It is clean waters and both have strict rules. One big problem with farmed fish is being fed unnatural food, such as grains. Hence fat profile of the fish is skewed towards more omega-6 rather than omega-3.

    But I have been following this site for a while, and people seem genuinely uninterested in healthy food and prefers low quality, cheap but tasty food. So for those people, $18/kg for frozen norwegian salmon is a good deal.

    Because I am price sensitive, I rather go for canned wild caught red salmon and make a pasta sauce out of it.

    • 'canned wild caught red salmon', which brand is that?

      • +1

        Sounds like a John West ad.

      • +2

        As I said, I am price sensitive so dont judge me. So I opt for coles home brand, but John West is great when on special!

    • Best to google "what do chicken/pigs/cow naturally eat" then search "what do farmed chicken/pigs/cow eat" and you tell me what is unnatural about salmon being feed this so called "unnatural" food.

      Interesting to also google the life expectancy of a chicken/pig/cow vs life expectancy of a farmed chicken/pig/cow. There is nothing natural about the meat that we eat…

      If people demand more wild salmon and are willing to pay premium for it, salmon will most probably become extinct sooner.

      One method is not better than the other (it's about balancing supply and demand), I think more people need to research both side of the story so they can make a more informed decision on what to purchase.

  • +2

    To all the people looking at the "farmed salmon" comments and getting scared:

    Wild salmon has a very distinct red colour, almost like tuna and has little fat (white lines). All the salmon you've eaten in Australia, frozen from the supermarket, sashimi at a Japanese place, even the fresh fillets you get from Sydney Fishmarkets have probably all been a light pink with fatty white stripes. These are all farmed (probably in Tasmania).

    Don't get too discouraged. Me personally, I prefer farmed salmon because of the fat, in the same way you'd prefer wagyu marbling over a normal steak.

    • +3

      Biggest source of Omega-6 is seed oil (canola, peanut, sunflower and so on), from memory something like 60% of our intake is from fried chips and low quality food items. So put in to perspective it is relativley better to eat farmed fish than a big mac meal.

    • +3

      This is a pretty big generalization that only dark red = wild. You're probably thinking of Sockeye salmon, which yes is red and is not farmed. But it's far from the only wild salmon in existence. For example Keto salmon which can be bought at Costco is wild caught and has a light pink colour like the farmed ones you describe.

      • Not sure what you mean by Keto salmon. I'm not a fish expert but googling it just gives me the salmon on the keto diet?

        In my quest to find a non-online and reasonably priced source for wild salmon I've asked independent fishmongers, Syd fishmarkets, and Costco. They're all farmed. If you've managed to find it in Costco please let me know which one.

        • Sorry it's Keta (or Chum Salmon) not Keto. Hard to find it online but the box looks similar to this:

          https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/291045194668477218/

          • @axel32: Cheers. Makes sense, I've only ever looked in the fresh section.

        • In my quest to find a non-online and reasonably priced source for wild salmon I've asked independent fishmongers, Syd fishmarkets, and Costco. They're all farmed.

          Well, I'm in Perth, so this won't be of any use to you but I've found at least three butchers/fish marketplaces in my area that have wild caught Barramundi, Salmon and occasionally Pink Ling or Snapper too.

          They definitely exist and I'd be amazed if Perth had some and Sydney didn't. Otherwise, there's plenty of online fish suppliers I've bought frozen Salmon in bulk from that are perfectly good, like Fish & Co. To be honest, I can't taste much difference between them and the local stores I buy the same Alaskan/Canadian wild-caught stuff from as well.

          • @Gnostikos: Hi, can you pm or post the names of those locations in Perth please? Much appreciated.

            • @denlife: No worries, PM'ed you.

              • @Gnostikos: Hi,
                Can you DM the Perth locations please?
                Thanks :)

                • @GL22: Yeah sure, you just need to enable private messaging in your account settings first.

    • +5

      Don't get too discouraged. Me personally, I prefer farmed salmon because of the fat, in the same way you'd prefer wagyu marbling over a normal steak.

      Dude, it's not just the fat content and lower nutritional profile that puts people off farmed fish.

      Farmed fish are the aquatic equivalent of CAFO-bred, caged chickens that live for 35 days of artificial growth promotion and chemical sterilisation before they're slaughtered.

      Farmed fish swim in their own excrement for their entire lives surrounded by hundreds of other fish in pens barely bigger than an inflatable kiddie pools where diseases and parasites are rampant (such as sea lice which kills off huge amounts of farmed Salmon every year) and besides the completely incompatible, GMO grain diets they're fed (usually corn, soy or vegetable oil-based; something those fish never encounter in the wild), they're given enormous amounts of antibiotics, hormones and the pens are treated with masses of chemicals to keep them from being so toxic that the fish die prematurely (even still, millions of farmed fish die in most fish farms annually).

      On top of that, there's the ethical/environmental considerations as large-scale fish farming has a huge disruptive impact on wild fish habitats and populations due to the huge amounts of waste/chemicals/effluents that is generated and dumped into oceans and waterways where wild populations live and which ends up killing or impacting them negatively, not to mention adding to oceanic pollution worldwide.

      • +2

        Unfortunately humans are omnivores by nature and a large percentage of us still enjoy meat despite the ethical quandaries. While likely distressing if scrutinised, industrial scale farming of animal flesh for 7.5 billion people is a real challenge that has no simple answers. If we were to all eat wild caught, free range this and that we would dangerously hasten the large scale ecosystem collapse that is already occurring. FYI factory farmed chickens are presently the most ecologically sustainable source of terrestrial animal protein that we have. I’m not sure where aquaculture and salmon fits in on this continuum, but considering how rare and expensive common ocean fish are becoming (depleted), I would not be surprised if this is ultimately beneficial.

        • +1

          You're preaching to the choir mate.

          I never said we aren't omnivores that are meant to be eating other animals; you seem to have mistaken me for some kind of vegan, hippy, Greenpeace activist.

          My point was CarWashRedhead's assertion that people only dislike farmed fish because of the fat content is ludicrous. People dislike them because they're flat-out terrible for you.

          You can't expect a net positive result for your health by eating sick, dying and extremely unhealthy animals.

          industrial scale farming of animal flesh for 7.5 billion people is a real challenge that has no simple answers

          It's only a problem because as per usual, a handful of corporations have monopolised modern agriculture and food production across much of the world like Nestle, Kraft, Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, Mondelez, Kellogs, Monsanto, Cargill, DuPont, Dow AgroSciences, Bayer, etc. and they have every incentive to keep supply low and demand high to maximise profits, to stifle innovation and competition that could introduce higher yield food production technologies and food sovereignty for large regions of the planet and to further consolidate their empires by making everyone dependent on them for their most basic of needs, which is exactly what they're doing.

          Anyone who believes in some alarmist, Malthusian overpopulation nonsense that posits that there's too many people on the Earth and it's biggest catastrophe we've ever faced and we have to basically rearrange civilisation in the image of some Orwellian dystopia to solve it, is absolutely full of it. The resources and potential of the Earth to support our current population levels and even higher is not in question; it's the absolute domination of those resources and land by a small group of concerted business and political interests that stops all of humanity having plentiful food stocks and equal access to vital resources.

          FYI factory farmed chickens are presently the most ecologically sustainable source of terrestrial animal protein that we have.

          Lol, where are you pulling this from?

          CAFOs are some of the worst polluters in modern-day agriculture.

          • @Gnostikos: I hear ya dude. Unfortunately given our current technological state and entrenched disregard of many ecological principles (generalisation) from the birth of agrarian civilisation until really today, industrial food production remains the engine that drives the bulk of the world’s population.

            Ironically the world was facing a Malthusian crisis from food shortages in the early 20th century prior to the Haber method of nitrogen production. I think it’s undeniable the current climate crisis is largely intertwined with the size of the population. I know Malthus is unpopular right now though. But it’s obviously true. I’m no eugenicist though and I believe there are solutions beyond population control, largely tied into economic incentive around placing higher values on environmental resources.

            I’ve taken my assertion about chicken from the field of environmental footprinting. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat…

            You won’t find me arguing that there aren’t problems with the food production system and that there are many gains yet to be made, particularly around things like closed loop agriculture and waste management. Seems a pretty low hanging fruit tbh, one that desperately needs more attention beyond simply parts of co2 per million.

      • -5

        Dude, it's not just the fat content and lower nutritional profile that puts people off farmed fish.

        The typical Ozbargainer will happily eat KFC and Hungry Jacks all day then complain that their fish wasn't hand caught in the wild by Inuit natives in Alaska.
        I'm pretty sure that a farmed fish is still better for you than 90% of everything else you do today.

        • +3

          Nice assumptions there, genius.

          I haven't had KFC or Hungry Jack's in about 12 years now. I also haven't had a piece of farmed fish in a very long time either.

          Your "typical OzBargainer" archetype doesn't apply to me and a lot of other people who make a concerted effort not to eat incredibly sh*t food.

  • Wait isn’t the Tassie salmon in the supermarket deli farmed as well?

  • Any healthy fish alternatives for salmon if I can't get from wild-caught sources? My doctor recommended sardine (also oily fish with very low level of mercury) but I'm keen on something else.

    • +4

      Mate hurry to Coles, they have King Oscar Mackerel in olive oil for $2 from $3.30 until tuesday/wednesday. Wollies has sardines for $2.

      Both is da bomb from a health perspective and taste! I aim to eat 1-2 sardines or mackerel per week.

      Put on a cracker and I am in heaven.

      • Thanks mate, wise choice to me. Mackerel has some level of mercury but is still safe if not eaten too much. I’ll definitely rush to Coles tomorrow!

        • I thought Mackerel was incredibly low because of their shorter lifespan? Therefore, less bioamplification

          • +1

            @Droz: I think it's only true for the big King Mackerel, the small mackerel is fine, as per data from FDA.

      • so is that much better for u than something like Sirena Tuna? I eat a lot of that. might have to give sardines/mackerel on crackers or toast a shot :)
        Im guessing the tuna tastes better?

    • Swordfish. Tuna.

      • Thanks but I’m allergic to swordfish. I love tuna but refrain from eating more than 2 times /week as it contains high level of heavy metals.

  • Apparently eating little fish is healthier than big fish for the reasons above, but some of us have been traumatised by childhood memories of sardine sandwiches with the gritty bone, scale and other bits.

    • +3

      For ~70c a tin it's one of the best sources of protein, nutrients and flavour you can get though. I enjoy eating the bones of sardines and canned salmon myself, except for that one time a stray Sardine bone stabbed my gum.

    • +1

      "… and other bits".

      I still remove the innards of sardines. I just can't stomach it for some reason.

  • +1

    I know I've had frozen wild Alaskan salmon from Costco in the past but I agree it's pretty hard to find anything that's not farmed these days.

  • +1

    I'm playing with my third nipple as I read this and I don't believe it.

    • +1

      Chandler?

  • Awesome I can’t wait to get this I love salmon

  • Tasmanian salmon is farmed :-(

  • +2

    This comment section was an eye opener… I mostly just have canned salmon but am def going to keep an eye out to avoid farmed salmon as much as possible.

    • -1

      Read it on the internet, believes it immediately…

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