[AMA] I Just Got The First Shot of The Pfizer Vaccine. Ask Me Anything

Second dose will be admitted in three weeks time. Not looking forward to it :(

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  • +3

    What is your motivation for getting the vaccine? Since you are not fontline, and your work doesn't require you to get it? I can't think of a reason why anyone would voluntarily want to get the vaccine at the moment unless you are in a high risk category or work requires you to get it. I am not an anti-vaxxer, by the way, I genuinely want to know.

    Previously, I also thought getting the vaccine would be a pre-requisite for quarantine-free international travel in the near future, but with recent developments of people finding out getting the vaccine doesn't stop you from being contagious, this is looking very unlikely.

    • +6

      It was offered so I took it. YOLO! haha. Honestly that was it.

      • -5

        Least you're honest. Damn that's an assinine reason to place blind trust in companies and government with the shadiest history on record though.

        • +5

          You might want to brush up on your history.

    • +15

      I haven't gotten the vaccine yet, but I'm scheduled to get it next week.

      I'm not frontline, but I do work in a community healthcare setting. The reasons are on two levels:

      • Personal level: I don't want to die from COVID-19 lol. The vaccine significantly reduces severe COVID, including the variants, and also protects you from dying from COVID. There are more research surfacing about "long-COVID", which are symptoms that persist after the person recovers from COVID, while it is not fully known yet how the vaccine protect the immunised from long-COVID, but it is at least likely there's protection vs unimmunised. Also I don't want to contract COVID and then pass it onto my family members and close friends. Granted I can still be shedding if I contract COVID, but as it is less likely to become a severe case, I'm hoping it won't have as high a chance of shedding. Back to the survival point, I don't want to die or be disabled by it long term so I can be there for my family and children in the future.

      • Community level: do my bits to help protect the community, especially for those who can't take the vaccines with genuine reasons. Also due to lower chance of severe COVID, that means it is less likely I will need hospital admission and not take away valuable public health resources away from those that really need it, so those who need the hospital bed for other reasons can have it. There are many surgeries that people needed to have been delayed due to COVID during the earlier period with transmission in the community.

      So, the above is just on top of my head ^^""

      • +3

        Hey, thanks for sharing.

        I do struggle with this. Everything you said makes sense. For me though and a lot of people that I know, yes, no one wants to die from COVID but the fatal side effects of the vaccine is a bit concerning. Although the probability of this is extremely low, the low transmission rates in Australia compounded with the low mortality rate of COVID makes the decision to get the vaccine difficult.

        That being said, I probably will still get the vaccine when offered, I don't think we can get back to any sort of "normal" until Australia is "fully" vaccinated.

        • +3

          There's been 2.8 million Australians vaccinated so far. I'd be curious to see how many of the deaths have been confirmed to be linked to the vaccines so far.

        • +4

          Yea, take the time you need to make the informed decision. My everyday environment is likely different to yours, and that'll lead to different sense of priorities.

          You are correct that we have low transmission already in Australia, luckily, and if the situation changes, likely your thoughts will evolve too.

          Personally I'm happy as long as people are willing to be open minded to consider and look at it with facts. Then everyone should be respected to take his/her own time to make the informed decision, as much as the conditions and climate (and consequently the risks) allow us to.

        • +6

          Take the time to do your research if that makes you feel better, but focus on actual science and not some vague opinions from people on Facebook or other forms of social media.

          I got mine because regardless of whatever happens, we will all need to be vaccinated before the end of this global pandemic. It is inevitable. Secondly, if we do have another outbreak locally to the degree of Melbourne, I don't want to be stuck in a crowd queueing up for a vaccine appointment last minute. Thirdly, our nearby neighbours and India are seeing growing numbers so there's zero chance of hoping COVID just dies out and disappears.

          • @Menzoberranzan:

            I got mine because regardless of whatever happens, we will all need to be vaccinated before the end of this global pandemic.

            While I am no medical expert, and this is not likely in the slightest, a cheap, easy to produce, and highly effective cure would reduce the need for a vaccine and in this hypothetical scenario where it fits all three of these criteria, make them unnecessary

            • @Loopenip: Sure that would be ideal. But there is nothing fitting that criteria popping up any time soon. With vaccines available there is even less incentive to try invent a cure, by the time it's ready everyone would likely already be vaccinated

        • +1

          I agree there needs to be an incentive to get it ie travel.

          Its easy for us though because of the huge taxpayer cost keeping everyone safe.
          I imagine if we were in the position of most nations people would be more keen on vaccine. It's amazing seeing people still Say its all govt fearmongering - should ship them off to India.

          I'm hoping by next year everyone has the chance to get the vaccine, and by then we 100% know it prevents the majority of people from developing severe illness (but I imagine you can still spread it).
          Then they open the borders and people who are anti vaxxers can well, die (if unlucky) I guess?

          Keeping this quarantine system is unfeasible and the safety it beings at great cost makes people not want to do their part with being vaccinated.

        • One important note: the most recent evidence suggests that being vaccinated lowers your transmission risk by 40-60 percent which is pretty huge. See e.g. https://theconversation.com/mounting-evidence-suggests-covid... but there are lots of other articles discussing studies too.

          There's also a strong suggestion that if you're vaccinated and you become a carrier, the version you pass on is much less severe.

      • -2

        I don't want to die from COVID-19

        I see the government’s fearmongering campaign was a huge success.
        I remember people used to get paid big bucks for testing vaccines/medicine (I got too!) in medical trials that went through a few years of testing already.

        Now suddenly people are VOLUNTARILY taking vaccines that were tested for less than a year for FREE.

        Thanks for taking one for the team.

        • +3

          Why do you think it is fearmongering? Genuinely curious.

          • -5

            @zrmx: When the government spends years instigating mass panic over a virus with a 98% survival rate, it's textbook definition of fear mongering. Statistically, you're much more likely to die from heart disease than COVID, yet when the last time you saw heart disease mentioned in the media or by the politicians who claim to be so concerned for your well-being?

            Also, if they really did care about your safety, they would rethink a lot of the BS rules put in place. Eg - they go on TV claiming that a deadly virus is on the loose so everyone should stay inside from midnight tonight. Next minute there are 10,000 people crammed inside Woolworths stocking up on supplies, because apparently you can only catch COVID on the arbitrary date set by the government. If you're hanging around people before the restrictions are officially in place, you're perfectly safe! Yeah right.

            Also, singing and dancing is supposedly too dangerous for the general public but if you're at a live show with performers singing and dancing, it's perfectly safe.

            The government has everyone so petrified that they're willing to blindly follow every piece of advice no matter how arbitrary and hypocritical it is.

            • +2

              @SlavOz: @spackbace I love seeing nutter go nut haha.

              edit: oops that didn't tag as intended.

            • +6

              @SlavOz: I can see where you are coming from.

              But one point I can't fully wrap my head around is that, if 2% death rate (considering 98% survival) is not significant and is fearmongering. Now the death rate of the AZ COVID vaccine overall is estimated to be much much less, at 0.0001% (1 in 4 chance mortality rate among estimated 0.0004% chance of getting TTS). If 2% isn't anything to worry about, then isn't the 0.0001% chance of the vaccine further nothing to worry about?

              • +3

                @zrmx: The difference is that nobody is out there trying to force or encourage people to get COVID and take on the risk of dying.

                However, there is currently a very aggressive global campaign to force people to get vaccinated and willingly take on the risk of dying from the vaccine. You MUST take this risk and put your life on the line, regardless of your personal or moral concerns.

                Also, we don't know the long-term effects of the vaccine yet. COVID has been around for long enough to speculate on what the long term effects are. The vaccines were rushed to market and have only been out for a few months, so an ample margin of error in terms of risk must be factored in.

                Finally, your chances of dying from COVID are actually less than 2% if you factor on the chances of getting COVID in the first place. Despite what we were told, it doesn't seem to spread as easily as believed, and the number of infections proportionate to the global population is quite low.

                So you have a very low chance of catching the virus and even then a very, very low chance of dying from it. That risk is already too small to justify piling on another risk of an untested vaccine.

                • +6

                  @SlavOz: "The vaccines were rushed to market and have only been out for a few months, so an ample margin of error in terms of risk must be factored in."

                  With a statement like this I am keen to understand what your background is. Do you have a career in the biological science field or a strong foundational understanding of research and drug development? Pre-clinical and clinical trials? How vaccines work with the human body? An understanding of the scrutiny and checks conducted by several federal regulatory bodies for drug safety (Eg: FDA, EMEA, TGA)?

                  Keep in mind that for the first time in a long while (If ever), scientists were given enormous amounts of funding straight up along with all the resources to make a project happen without delay. They did not have to waste months trying to procure limited funding approvals nor did they have issues finding experienced staff and facilities, nor did they need to spend years trying to get enough volunteers and sites for clinical trials. Furthermore there are multiple vaccines available and you can bet if there was any hanky panky going on, competitors would make it well known to position their product as the premier choice.

                  The development and commercialisation of these vaccines should be instead seen as an ideal scenario showing what science can actually do when not underfunded and underutilised.

                  • -16

                    @Menzoberranzan:

                    With a statement like this I am keen to understand what your background is. Do you have a career in the biological science field or a strong foundational understanding of research and drug development?

                    No, do you?

                    Pre-clinical and clinical trials?

                    No, do you?

                    An understanding of the scrutiny and checks conducted by several federal regulatory bodies for drug safety (Eg: FDA, EMEA, TGA)?

                    Not in an official capacity. Do you?

                    It's all well and fine to tell the other side "they just don't understand the science" but it doesn't sound like you understand it either. Unlike most medical trials, the data around COVID and the vaccine has been heavily restricted and hidden from anyone who isn't at the very top level. Discussions, concerns, and debates around it have also been heavily discouraged and censored, even among doctors.

                    There are plenty of medical professionals who have raised reasonable concerns around COVID, the vaccine, or the efficacy of restrictions and instead of being duly addressed, they have been buried and smeared by the government's propaganda campaign. This is not science mate. Science is about questioning things and never stopping the search for more information.

                    This is contrary to traditional scientific testing and integrity.

                    Sure, we took some shortcuts which were arguably justifiable in developing the vaccine in record time, but long-term human trials are a pre-requisite for any drug or medical procedure. The COVID vaccine did not meet the standard of long term testing previously held by the medical community for decades.

                    They basically changed the rules from "every drug needs to be rigorously tested for safety" to "rigorous safety tests are just a technicality, we don't really need them after all". This is, of course, highly suspicious and you don't need to be a scientist to see that.

                    • +29

                      @SlavOz: The answer to your 3 responses is "Yes, I do". In the past I have even worked in a lab and grown/researched a respiratory virus. That is why I have no issues with getting the vaccine myself. You'll find the majority of people that work in the science/medical field all do the same.

                      The media and idiots on social media are why we have such a problem presently as the general population prefers to listen to hysteria rather than reason. It is the same thing with the general public thinking they know better than their doctors because they use Google and so and so said such and such on FB.

                      Unlike most medical trials, the data around COVID and the vaccine has been heavily restricted and hidden from anyone who isn't at the very top level. This is actually contrary to traditional scientific testing and integrity.

                      That is misinformation and nonsense. There are plenty of peer reviewed articles on COVID19 and vaccine testing/efficacy publicly available. Just because you do not understand them does not mean they are restricted and hidden. Just some simple Googling already has this paper discussing the safety and efficacy of the Pfizer shot. Further reading has the whole 376 page clinical trial protocol available listing study goals, testing criteria. Plenty more other studies and papers available if you had actually done your own research rather than repeating what you have heard.

                      Yes the vaccines have not gone through years of long-term human trials due to obvious reasons such as a pandemic going on killing people. If we had waited, the US would be in a much worse state as vaccines were the only way they turned things around. They have a clear, demonstrable effect with millions already vaccinated and healthy. Safety has already been reviewed and verified by numerous virologists, epidemiologists, immunologists and other specialists. This is literally what they do for a career.

                      They basically changed the rules from "every drug needs to be rigorously tested for safety" to "rigorous safety tests are just a technicality, we don't really need them after all". This is, of course, highly suspicious and you don't need to be a scientist to see that.

                      Except the vaccines have been rigorously tested, just over a shorter period of time and by a worldwide audience of scientists and medical professionals, show me any other new therapy or drug that has been scrutinised to this extent. No rules are being changed, new medication and therapies going forward will still be tested they same way as before.

                      You have no idea what you are talking about mate.

                      • -16

                        @Menzoberranzan:

                        In the past I have even worked in a lab and grown/researched a respiratory virus

                        Doesn't necessarily make you an expert on all the topics you mentioned.

                        I play kick-around soccer with my mates at the park but I'm not gonna pretend to know the intricate ins and outs of the sport and what it takes to be successful.

                        You'll find the majority of people that work in the science/medical field all do the same.

                        Sure, everyone in the medical industry is perfectly willing to get vaccinated, which is why the government is making it mandatory…

                        It is the same thing with the general public thinking they know better than their doctors because they use Google and so and so said such and such on FB.

                        Spoken like a true beurecrat rather than someone with any real world experience. I believe that individuals know what's best for them more than doctors do. This doesn't mean that doctors opinions should be disregarded, but ultimately the decision on whether or not to have a medical procedure or take a drug falls on the individual based on their personal assessment.

                        I have plenty of medical conditions and I've travelled all over the world seeking treatment from different doctors. If I had listened to what they told me I'd be dead 5 times over by now because they got things very wrong and ultimately went down the lazy route of prescribing a magic pill to take away the symptoms rather than treat the actual cause of my problem.

                        I have also been helped immensely by some doctors but the only reason I found them was because I constantly questioned everything, rejected my diagnosis, and pushed them for more information. Blindly accepting everything that comes from doctors or the medical community, and insisting that people have no right to conduct a personal assessment of what's best for them based on their beliefs or conscious is just putrid and nefarious. You don't belong in the medical industry.

                        That is misinformation and nonsense

                        Nope, just look into some of the aggressive cover-ups of doctors who dared question the narrative.

                        https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/04/medical-notes/

                        This doesn't even take into account the disgraceful attitude adopted by most Australians where anyone who dares question the government is considered an conspiracy theorists while the media proudly boasts that these people don't deserve a seat at the table of public discourse.

                        Again, this is not the mindset of science or civility. It's dystopian indoctrination.

                        Except the vaccines have been rigorously tested, just over a shorter period of time and by a worldwide audience of scientists and medical professionals,

                        Who I'm sure were perfectly willing to roll up their sleeves and test the vaccine themselves…oh no, they left that part to the general population.

                        Gunea pigs needed.

                        • +7

                          @SlavOz:

                          I believe that individuals know what's best for them more than doctors do

                          Steve Jobs thought that. He's now dead.

                          I was going to respond to each of your poorly raised points but after checking your profile I have to agree with spackbace that you must be a troll. If you can't even understand how a roundabout works then it is no surprise science goes right over your head.

                          Good luck in life

                          • +1

                            @Menzoberranzan:

                            Steve Jobs thought that. He's now dead.

                            So are the thousands of people who die on an operating table or from toxicity of prescription drugs every single day.

            • +4

              @SlavOz:

              yet when the last time you saw heart disease mentioned in the media or by the politicians who claim to be so concerned for your well-being?

              Maybe if it was contagious…

              • -3

                @smartazz104: Why is that relevant? Contagiousness is not bad in itself - it's only bad if it causes deaths, and right now (non contagious) heart disease is causing way more deaths than the ultra contagious COVID.

                You trying to tell people they shouldn't be concerned about a very common cause of death (that's quite easy to contract given our lifestyle and diet today), just because they can't directly catch it from someone else?

                • +3

                  @SlavOz: I don't see where I said "don't worry about heart disease" so stop making things up; you're equating a contagious, airborne disease that can be spread unknowingly to many people by carriers who don't have a clue they have it vs. a disease the people bring upon themselves due to their own lifestyle choices, despite being told that healthy eating and exercise are an important part of life. I get your concern about these new vaccines that have all hit the market in "record" time, but what do you expect people to do instead, just pretend it's fine because you and people you know aren't affected?

                  • -7

                    @smartazz104:

                    you're equating a contagious, airborne disease that can be spread unknowingly to many people by carriers who don't have a clue they have it vs. a disease the people bring upon themselves due to their own lifestyle choices,

                    You're equating a disease that kills over 17,000 Australians every year, to a virus that hasn't even killed 1,000 people over the last 3 years.

                    One of us is making a silly comparison…

                    but what do you expect people to do instead

                    I expect people to act within their natural instincts to question things and seek more information instead of blindly swallowing a force-fed misinformation campaign by an institution that is inherently flawed and has a history of lying to us.

                    I don't think that's too much to ask of humans, even if individual thinking has been heavily discouraged by media.

                    I expect people to react to the risk of COVID the same way as they react to the risk of heart disease - they might catch it and die, but that doesn't mean they should never eat a cheeseburger or slice of bacon ever again, or let the government determine their eating habits on their behalf.

                    So, why live in fear and let the government determine your life in response to COVID? Most people expose themselves to the risks of heart disease much more than they expose themselves to the risk of COVID, and they've never had a problem taking that risk.

      • +1

        Please correct if I am wrong, but the vaccines could meet the companies’ benchmark for success if it lowered the risk of mild Covid-19, but was never shown to reduce moderate or severe forms of the disease, or the risk of hospitalization, admissions to the intensive care unit or death. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/22/opinion/covid-vaccine-cor...

        And the covid vaccines do not stop you from getting the virus and spreading it. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/fully-vaccinated-travell...

        If you look at VAERS COVID REPORTS https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data?start=10, there have been 4,057 deaths due to the covid vaccine in the USA.

        If the swine flu vaccination was stopped after 53 deaths in the USA, why hasn't this one been stopped?

        • +3

          The NY Times article referenced is dated back to September last year, 2020, when the vaccines are just coming out more to the public light. The questions posed were good, and now we are actually getting answers to those questions as we aren't only looking at the trials, but now we are monitoring the effects of vaccines as they are roll-out in mass to the public.

          The effects of the vaccines would be best observed in regions where vaccine rollout has reached a good amount of the population. Both the Israeli data (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01018-7), and the most recent published update on the British data from Public Health England (https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1088), are showing the vaccines do provide protection against severe diseases.

          With regards to how a vaccine works in the sense of immunity to illness VS infection, here's a well written article that explains much better than I can: https://theconversation.com/covid-19-vaccine-faqs-efficacy-i... . In short, vaccines have a role in preventing a disease or reducing severity of a disease, even if it does not prevent an infection.

          Granted that yes, there are still more to learn about the vaccines, and yes, Australia does have the luxury so far to be more observing and staying cautious and waiting for more answers to questions compared to overseas. However, be prepared for answers, and what are you going to do with them.

          With regards to vaccine deaths, overall it is balancing risks vs benefits. COVID has caused far more deaths and with the data we have, we know vaccination would've prevented many of them.

    • +2

      I agree and wonder the same thing about anyone not on the frontline. I’m no anti-vaxxer either and happily got my flu shot this year like most years, but it’s obvious how rushed the trial and approval process was by regulators so governments could try to get the virus under control. It would be naive to think the primary motivation of the major vaccine producers rushing to be first into the market was saving lives and not the astronomical amount of money up for grabs from all the supply contracts from desperate governments, so I’m sure plenty of red flags popped up and were buried by both the producers and government regulators.

      I’m sure they’ll eventually get the vaccines refined properly and I’ll happily get it if by then it’s still needed, but I’d prefer not to be part of the guinea pig cohort at the beginning until all the risks and red flags that may have been buried so the vaccines could be rolled out quickly have come to the surface.

      • +1

        I’m sure they’ll eventually get the vaccines refined properly and I’ll happily get it if by then it’s still needed, but I’d prefer not to be part of the guinea pig cohort

        Better yet, you will generate antibodies without having a vaccine when you get COVID this winter…

        Question remains, will you need life support, pass it onto an older relative, consume ICU resources, survive?

        While you’re busy hiding, many in the community are willing to do whatever it takes to return to the society we had 16-months ago, and to protect their loved ones, guinea pigs or not.

        • +1

          We aren’t living somewhere like India where it is rampant. We barely have it outside of hotel quarantine system because of our border controls and any outbreak gets jumped on so quickly most of the time we have very little community transmission, so at this point in time I can afford to be wary of a rushed out vaccine. If I were a frontline worker or had people around me who were vulnerable, and we had active community transmission that couldn’t be contained, I would have a responsibility to take the risk. Right now I don’t.

          • -1

            @Magnastar: This is what I understand about the covid vaccines
            1- The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19.  

            2- Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is still being studied in clinical trials.

            https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

            3- It only lesses mild symptoms - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/22/opinion/covid-vaccine-cor...

            4- After getting vaccinated, you can get still get the virus and spread the virus. So you can get the virus and pass it on to an older relative.

            5- There are serious side effects like death (4,057 deaths in the USA), and 11,572 people needing hospitalization in the USA.

      • +1

        Thats not how vaccines work, it happened quickly because there was so much resources poured in to it and they skipped the animal trial and went straight to human, so those initial people took the big risk. It much safer then the flu shot you got this year.

      • +1

        There was already research being done into Corona virus vaccines due to the prior SARS outbreak. There was work being done on RNA vaccines too.

        This existing work was able to be leveraged. That's why it was so fast.

  • +7

    Thank you for being a test dummy.

  • +3

    What are tonights lotto numbers.

    • +7

      6 14 34 27 18 41

      • +2

        You'd cry if they did come up…:D

        • *quickly log into ozlotto….

      • Is that your number by any chance ?

        • Try calling it to find out.

    • +1

      4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

      • +1

        Don’t tell me what I can’t do

  • +4

    I actually got both doses by mid March.
    Still alive, no third ear grew. I think I'm now being tracked by 5G though!

  • Who shot who?

    • +3

      Maggie shot Mr Burns

      • They retconed that in a later simpsons episode to be either Homer or someone else.

  • I got horrific gut cramps and massive diarrhea on days 3 and 4 after first shot of Pfizer. So bad that I was in bed for two days.

    I'm not going back for second shot.

    • +7

      Are you sure it was Pfizer that caused it and not something you ate?

      • Not sure. That thought had crossed my mind.

        I haven't suffered with anything like that in literally years. No strange places visited. No strange foods. It might be a coincidence, but I can't do those 2 days again. Not voluntarily.

        • +2

          Did you go see your doctor about it just to make sure? They would have to make a report on the adverse reaction too.

          • @Clear: Just the pharmacist. And after the first shot, you get a survey from the COVID people asking about any symptoms, which I advised.

            About 10% of people get gut issues apparently. Not as bad as mine (hopefully)

            • +1

              @oscargamer:

              About 10% of people get gut issues apparently. Not as bad as mine (hopefully)

              I had it two days ago and still quite sick from it. Gut problems, temperature. If you were in bed for a couple of days, worth reporting it so an adverse reaction can be recorded against it.

              It's expected you are able to function and do your normal day to day activities; not as well but if you aren't able to do your day to day activities, worth reporting it

              • +2

                @MorriJ: Yep. Did so, via the survey they sent me after a few days.

  • +6

    You're supposed to be able to get a wide variety of mutant super powers. Can you please provide a list of the ones you receive and the order in which you get them?

    • +25

      I think I got an invisibility super power. My wife acts like she couldn't see me when I said I don't feel very well.

  • +1

    I had the AZ yesterday.

    I did 1hr yoga last night and another this morning. I feel great. 2nd dose 11 Aug

  • +5

    Have you been contacted by the 'Big Bill' via the implant?
    Was it you that crashed outlook app?

  • +1

    Need some tips on how to avoid side effects, I'm almost certain I will experience the (almost) worst of it.

    Not looking forward to it, even though it could be months/years before it's available to me.

                  • +2

                    @MorriJ: You can try to avoid it as much as you like but for all the medical advancements we've made, the death rate is still 100%. And while I'm not in any hurry to die, I'm not afraid of death either.

    • +1

      I'd say take it. The government, news and the "experts" all say the blood clots and side effects are not caused by the vaccine, so you're safe.

      We need more martyr's in this world. You deserve to be first in line.

      • +2

        The government, news and the "experts" all say the blood clots and side effects are not caused by the vaccine, so you're safe.

        The same government that has a history of lying to us, the same media that makes money by pushing lies and hysteria, and the same experts who once told us that smoking didn't cause cancer or that low-fat, high-sugar diets were healthy.

        • Yep, the very same. You may have missed my sarcasm.

          • +1

            @pufffdragon: Na I got it, I was just pointing out the insanity of the narrative

            • @SlavOz: Insane it is. Just like some of the comments here in this thread.

  • +4

    Had the vaccine some while ago - over 70. No side effects and no virus. Second jab coming soon.

    • +2

      With a dicky ticker to boot!

      Sometimes I think the young-uns today are just wussy little pussies.

      Having my first shot Tues.

      • I think it's the middle personally… "young-uns" relative to the oldies, but not the young-uns' young-uns.

        • Hopefully you're right.

          Had my Astrazeneca shot yesterday and it doesn't seem to be a big deal.

    • +26

      Says he’s no conspiracy theorist.
      Immediately trots out a conspiracy theory.

  • +6

    Use a magnet on where you were injected and see if it falls off. 🙂

    • Vaccinated Chipped

  • I thought the second dose should be done 12 weeks after the first, or is that just for AZ?

    • Just AZ.

  • Do you even know what it is?

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