How Much Do You Pay a Traffic Light Window Washer?

It's a sunny afternoon. You pull up to the traffic lights on your drive home from another grinding day at work. The boss doesn't respect you, your colleagues ignore you and at home you suspect your wife is having an affair with your richer, more attractive neighbour. Then, suddenly, ahead near the lights a scruffy teenager wearing a pair of Kappa pants, an exhausted grey hoodie and a black Adidas hat appears. In one hand he carries a Pump bottle containing what you presume to be heavily diluted Windex. In the other, a short squeegee — the type you've seen at Kmart for $6 a dozen times and each time considered buying before coming to your senses. Who really needs one of those? Why not just use the free one at the servo?

The kid saunters towards your car, raising the bottle half-way above his head while making direct eye contact. Do you take up his implied offer? Why not, you think to yourself. After all, once your wife comes to her senses and leaves you she'll get half your money anyway.

You grimace at the offer as the window cleaner walks ever closer. Raising two fingers from the wheel, you beckon him over. But does your windscreen even need a wash? Didn't it rain yesterday? Nevermind. It's too late now. The deal is signed. Besides, he can get rid of that brownish-yellow dot which has landed just above eye level on the glass some time since yesterday. What even is that stuff anyway - is it a dead bug, or bug crap? Or bird crap? I guess we'll never know, because before you know it the mystery liquid in the water bottle is splashed over the windscreen.

He starts with the driver's side. Not a bad job. He even cleared up that bit at the top where the windscreen wipers never reach. You know what I'm talking about, that triangle just behind the rear view mirror. A hundred times as you've been driving you've designed in your head a new wiper mechanism that does a better job that the standard one — but who would you sell it to? Who would listen to you? You're a nobody. And even if you weren't, you don't like talking to car people ever since that blinker fluid incident at the mechanic nine years ago.

The cleaner wipes over the mystery dot. Most of it goes, except for a faint outline. It's a little bit frustrating. Couldn't he go over it again? It's right there. Can't he see it too? Alas, you're hardly going to be paying professional cleaner rates here. Plus he looks like he might get an attitude if you question his work. You wonder where his parents are. Could they be window washers as well? Is your window cleaner just the latest in a dynasty of proud traffic light window washers? Probably not, you concede.

Next is the passenger side's clean. Not too bad at all. It's clean-ish. You suppose that's really the bare minimum expected of this service. But at least it's not dirtier than it was before he began his work. That's a plus. Or at least, it's not a negative.

As he's wiping away the last dregs, you think to yourself - how much do these guys get an hour anyway? The lights go red every two or three minutes. Presuming there's at least one window to clean each stop, this guy's probably earning more than you are. He works the hours he wants, doesn't pay a cent of tax, gets to be in the beautiful sunshine all day. Is this what freedom looks like? Could you do it? Tomorrow morning you could tell the boss you're leaving for good. In one final bridge-burning act, tell him his inflated sense of importance is the only thing between him getting up every morning and him driving himself into a tree at 200km/h. No, you accept. You don't have the confidence to approach strangers at the traffic lights, and looking at your hands you shamefully concede you've never done a day of physical labour in your life. Well, except that time you built a chicken coop for the girls. You've got the photos to prove it. Also, you think, the boss dying might cause people to feel sympathy for him. That would be too painful. For him to be a martyr. You frown in the driver's seat. Damn.

The window washer ambles over to the driver's side window. You press the button to your right and the glass steadily retracts into the door. No more roll-down window for you — you saved up your simoleons and picked up this 2008 Camry at the height of the COVID second-hand car boom last year. Just $12,000. He opens his hand expectantly, and hangs it forward towards you. In your coin holder you know there's a good assortment of silver and gold. There's at least a couple of 20s in there, maybe a 50, and two or three golds. You know there's a pink meanie inside your wallet, but you'll be damned if you're going to give up that baby for a window wash. Or will you?

"What's a fair price for a window clean?" You ask yourself as your hand moves away from the window switch and towards either the coin tray or wallet on the passenger seat.

The window washer watches your movements closely.

Poll Options expired

  • 10
    5c-20c
  • 7
    25c-50c
  • 44
    55c-$1
  • 269
    $1.05-$2
  • 56
    $2-$3
  • 21
    $3+
  • 403
    Nothing

Comments

      • +10

        There is zero chance I'm opening up my window to some junkie with a squirt bottle of questionably sourced water. My car has window wipers and a fluid reservoir, I don't need to pay someone for doing a job that serves zero purpose.

        • +7

          I also don't open up my window for them, nor do I get them to clean my windows either. But when they walk pass, I shake my head to indicate im not interested.

          • -3

            @buckethat: i have one of my wiper sprayer nozzles pointed at an angle to hit them when they walk past. also great for cyclists.

    • +2

      I do the same, but also maintain eye contact while pretending to constantly swear. My sporadic horn usage further acts to enhance my mock swearing.

    • +1

      Speaking of passive aggressive, I had some aggro derro type trying to force their services even when I was bring pleasant about it, last thing I needed that day going home from work. Good thing it was my daily and not my pride and joy.

      Later that night walking past there, found they stashed their washing stuff in the bushes there including their bucket. I took the bucket, now I can wash my car windows at home.

    • +1

      Just shake your head or wave your hand…

  • +1

    Hahaha… this is the best! Reminds me of my Sydney days. I hope you’re okay OP. Usually I say no to these folk, but occasionally give them $2

  • +11

    I hand them one of those Jesus notes - looks like money, but is infact a bible verse. It's what Jesus would have wanted… to piss people off.

  • +3

    R U OK mate?

  • +1
    1. I drop the window and advise them that my windscreen doesn't need cleaning.
    2. If they persist. I tell them again.
      3.If they get aggressive I close window and tell them again in a more forceful manor not to touch the car.
    3. Hopefully the lights change before it goes any further.
      5.It is highly recommended not to let them touch the car as they could scratch or damage your wider.

    If you do end up getting it washed. Offer a candy bar or give them a smile and say thanks, and just say you don't have any change or cash.

    • +1

      What is a "candy bar"?

      • +4

        Pretty sure he's talking about prostitution.

    • What if I don't have a forceful manor?

    • What if inbetween steps 2 and 3 they start thrashing your car?

  • +1

    I don't encourage these often assertive aggressive bludgers, tax free income and a huge hourly rate for these 'pensioners'?

  • +3

    Greatest read I've had in weeks. If give you a pink meanie… Maybe you could tell stories outside the mall, like busking??

  • +1

    Every comment says don't pay, yet the pool indicates 3x as many people do pay!!??

    Do people actually let them wash then not pay them? I put the wipers on if the try to

    • +1

      I'd be scared not to pay in case they damage my car in retribution.

  • -1

    don't live in those cesspool places where these pan handlers operate.

  • Never seen one irl, only on teevee…

  • +1

    For me if he wipes my windows even if I asked him not to then I won’t pay a cent! If I asked for it then a gold coin will do.

  • +4

    I'm on a disability pension and live in a rural area without this luxury nuisance. But when I'm in Canberra I see them occasionally. I'm pedantic about my windscreen and always like it clean, but also like to donate people who at least try doing something, don't really want to support menaces on the road who intimidate you into a clean, plus I rarely have cash handy… But I normally succumb is I have the $$ handy and give them a bunch of coins $1-2.

    PS. As a pensioner I also have this bizarre concept of buying lottery tickets as a form of tax where at least some of the money goes to giving people a happy moment, knowing full well my chances of winning are super slim. But it's an excuse to spend say $30/month. So yes a few bucks to line a poor window cleaner dude's pocket is worth while occasionally.

    • onya walt :)

    • -2

      The disabiltiy pension is meant to support necessities i.e. food, rent, medical
      Not a bet to get rich

      • He buy lottery makes him happy that's to maintain his mental health and that's important.

        • I'd love for someone to pay me to make me happy too

          • @cktftw: Not even Elon Musk could afford that, if you're truly that much a curmudgeon.

    • This gives a rough idea of how much they can earn in a day …

      • If they admit to making 150 a day, it's probably 300+.

  • -1

    Hey man, are you Okay ?

  • They now appear in open air carpark so you can't drive away.

    • Why can't you drive away? Why can't you (politely) refuse their offer?

      • Because u just parked. They hunt you down as you just park. Politely refuse and walk away don't always work. Risk of damaging of your investment car while you walk away is high.

        • Public space? Just take their photo if you are really worried and use it to report any damage (if it happens) to the police / your insurance company.
          As long as you are certain it is from them.

          • @GG57: I feel like the police report and insurance company won't help.

            All you have to go by is a photo of a homeless person.

            You'll be out your excess and an increase in premiums.

  • +7

    It's 2021, I wouldn't have cash on me.

    • +3

      It's 2021. They'll whip out their Square, CBA or whatever card reader. It's Paywave too, for your convenience.

  • presuming, average earn $1/min, that $60/hour no tax and they can work whenever they want!!! i'll give them a candy next time

    • What is a 'candy'?

      • loli

    • +3

      Yeah they earn 60 ph tax free and have 16 investment properties; they just wear worn clothes to look the part to encourage more payment? Ok I am quitting my job today and claiming a street corner at 505pm this afternoon.

      • Tell us how thats going for you.

  • +1

    If they touch my windscreen without asking me wipers and jet washers on instantly.
    It's a firm NO because I love my car and I wash it personally.

  • +1

    I am empathetic to window washers as a person has to be pretty needy or desperate to do this.

    I mean, if it was not illegal, I would guess that none of us here will be quitting our day jobs to pursue a career cleaning car windows at traffic lights.

    • While I agree that most probably wouldn't resort to that as their first choice, I'm pretty sure they make a decent amount of money from it. Probably similar to people who sit somewhere with a sign in front of them. A couple of dollars doesn't seem like a lot to the individual giving it, but the receiver is getting it from multiple people and it would add up real quick.

  • +4

    I literally witness a window washer guy throw back a 50c at a female driver :)
    I guess, inflation rate have gone up :)

    • +1

      Offering 50c is just an insult. I bet it was an expensive car as well.

      • +1

        But she advice the guy no she doesn't want it but he still does it. So I think his lucky to get 50c imo.

        • +1

          Sounds like a 1st world window washer that one!

      • You can't pay off the bikies and get meth for 50 cents.

  • bro, are you ok?

  • +6

    One day my father and I stopped at the traffic light. My father was curious about what these kids with bottles were doing next to the traffic light. My father is first time came to Australia and had not seen this, so I decided to spend $2 to let him experience it. When 2 kids came to us, I did not say no to them not have eye contact with them.

    When they finished washing the front window, I pulled down the window and was ready to give them about $2-$3 coins from the car pocket. Then a kid who looks older about 9 years old told me to pay $20 each. I was shocked. I said it is impossible. Then I took my hand off from the coins and argued with them. I thought that when the green light on, I would go.

    But my dad who does not speak English did not want to get into trouble, so he took out a bunch of cash from his pocket and prepared to give them some. Another kid who looks like 7 years old saw the cash and immediately stand in front of the car and refused to let us go.

    I thought they saw the cash already, if do not give them a dime they would obstruct traffic forever. Then, I took a $5 note from my father's hand and give them. However, they still asked more and did not let us go when the next red light on.

    I said to the older kid, I have given enough already, others will give you nothing. I randomly pointed to a car in front of me and said to them, you go to clean that car, if he gives you $5, I will give you $50. After they finished cleaning, the driver shook his hand and give them nothing. I asked the older one if I gave them enough. The older boy seemed to understand and pulled away the 7-year-old who was still in front of the car and want more. And the 7-year-old still seemed very angry. After the car ran, he still kicked the bottom of the car.

    I still don't understand why they were so angry.

    • +8

      I found this infuriating to read.

    • +3

      What the actual f…

      Do not give money to people who try to scam you.

    • I've had a similar experience. Not in this country, but was approached by people holding babies, begging for money. Sometimes I would give them fruit or other food, but they wanted money.
      I saw someone give some money, and suddenly that car was surrounded by others wanting money.

      Paying someone for doing a job (i.e. washing the car window) seems a good thing to do.

    • -1

      'Get the (profanity) out of my way you little (profanity) or I'll flatten you where you stand'

      That's probably what I would lead with.

      • Considering we are living in a nanny-state country, that would probably land you in jail on accusations of assault and pedophilia.

  • It's illegal but nothing ever happens because it'll give Police the bad look of picking on the poor/homeless.

    There's always a few at intersection of Hoddle St/Victoria Pde. Most Melbournians would know.

    I used to let them wash it since I don't mind and pay $1. But then once I saw the guy refilling water from a dirty water bottle and got me wondering: where did they even get their water from?

    Then never again :P

    • Lol I am a melbournian born and raised and did not know. Sounds like something only northsiders would know given the location

  • In Thailand they wash your windscreen (with muddy water) even if you wave them away. And then stand at the driver's side window wai-ing and bowing their head. The people that do this are poor, but it would annoy the heck out of me if it was my car.

  • This is too real.

  • +3

    A hotspot for this service is on Hoddle St/Punt Rd/Welling St. I have a story…

    Many years ago, I was on a first date. I was in my heavily modified JDM s15. As he approached my car, I shook my head and waved him away, but he cleaned my windscreen anyway?! He had the nerve to go to my window and stand there with his hand out.

    As I was with the girl, I didn't want to seem cheap so I grabbed what coins I had in the car and gave it to him. It was mostly silvers, I estimate about $0.80. He looked at me with disgust and called me a tightass. This really pissed me off because I didn't ask for the service and even paid him! So I quickly reached to grab my coins out of his open palm but was jolted back by the takata racing seatbelts. He laughed at me and walked off. I looked a fool.

    There was no second date.

  • In the other, a short squeegee — the type you've seen at Kmart for $6 a dozen times and each time considered buying before coming to your senses. Who really needs one of those? Why not just use the free one at the servo?

    I keep a bucket with water and windscreen cleaner in my garage with a squeegee. My windshield wipers don't release water

  • no cash, no coin.

  • You press the button to your right and the glass steadily retracts into the door.

    What button? Some of us still have to "wind" the windows down!

    • OP clarified in the next sentence

      • +1

        Oh yeh! thanks for pointing that out! I didn't get that far… my bad! :)

  • Firstly I'd like to say what a read! Tag me in your next release. Honestly looking forward to it!!

    • I agree it felt like a good story to read!

  • Are you for real?

  • I have never seen it before, live in Adelaide.

    I had also never seen a gofundme for car repairs until someone mentioned it then I came across 2 in quick succession.

  • I once offered a window washer guy either $2 or a beer. (i had some beers I had bought for a party later). He took the $2. I then congratulated him on his excellent choice and asked if he wanted the beer anyway - he refused.

    • +1

      He may have had a problem with alcohol. It was nice to offer, but I only offer once.

  • +5

    Love your writing! Please post another one!

  • +1

    I remember police used to pretend to be window washers to catch people using mobiles and also once you put your hand out the window instant fine

  • It is illegal. For starters it is dangerous to the car windscreen washer. Our roads and light controlled intersections are million dollar public infrastructure. Even a 10% slow down at an intersection that costs over $10m arguably costs the public (ie you) over a million dollars. The benefit is no way near the cost. There are enough distractions on the road without this.

  • I'm not reading that

    • +3

      You're missing out.

      • -2

        Actually it wasn’t very funny.

  • +3

    Amazing writing skills OP. Didnt skip a single sentence and had me wishing for more, the way you made us see through the eyes of the driver/emotions/thoughts all in a few short paragraphs…you have so much talent and need to write professionally!

  • -1

    Windows washer should be banned as they are safety hazards. I almost ran over the guy on Punt road.

  • Great read. Where did you get the speed from?

  • I really hate those window washer. Last time I was driving a hired car, the guy came over and didn't know my car had rain sensor. He frigging triggered the wipers and then I didn't know how to make the wiper to stopped as it was automatic. Made a mess at the end as the light turned green. Another time, I said I didn't want it, the guy purposely pour his liquid onto my wind screen, I already said I didn't want it. Made another mess and I didn't pay. Those phuckers are most likely are drug addicts or alcholic. They should be banned from doing illegal stuff and causing traffic jam.

  • Great story op, u have obvious writing skills. But your poll options are poor and need work. Firstly, who is willingly giving under 50c in coins? That’s just insulting. If you plan to give less that 50c, then just don’t ask for a wash in the first place. Secondly, you shouldn’t have the same amount over 2 options, it’s confusing.

    I always give $2, but you’ve got $2 listed in 2 different options so I don’t know which one to select.

  • tldr

  • It's illegal to pay a window washer at traffic lights in nsw. You can be fined for paying for an unlawful service just like the window washer can be fined for soliciting an unlawful service.

  • +1

    i mate paid one $50 once he couldnt believe his eyes, thought it was christmas lol

  • I used to work at a large retail store on a main road. These guys would come in and swap all of their small change for notes at the end of the day. Most days they were coming in with somewhere between $200 and $300 worth of small change. If you're out there long enough and you pick a set of lights that has a long stop time, seems like you could make a reasonable living.

    I always give then a dollar or two, saves me from doing something that I always forget to do when I'm at the servo anyway. One of my colleagues was happy to pay a bit more because they were providing a service rather than just begging.

  • good read

  • Brevity is not your strength, OP.

  • Gave a guy 50c once. He saw the gold coins in my holder and gave the 50c back.

  • I never paid them or even let them wipe my windscreen. Because 1. I don't let anyone else wash my car, 2. I don't wanna encourage them.

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